From Autopen Scandals To A Fractured Party: What’s Breaking America’s Politics

We push past the Halloween jokes and dive into a week where a machine-signed signature could void pardons, a shutdown strangles paychecks, and a new AI encyclopedia challenges who writes the record. Along the way, we weigh a fractured Democratic Party, NYC’s high-stakes race, and Trump’s Pacific deals.

• Autopen use on legal documents and oversight gaps
• Where autopens belong and where they don’t
• Week five shutdown impacts on pay and safety
• EBT realities, misinfo, and store risk
• Welfare incentives vs community and church aid
• 2020 as a breaking point for Democrats
• NYC race, Mamdani eligibility debate, and stakes
• Trump’s Pacific trade, minerals, and peace accords
• China meeting signals and supply chain strategy
• Musk’s Grakipedia and the fight over facts

Thank you for tuning in, sharing the show, and supporting us. We’re so appreciative to see the show growing. We love you guys very much, and we will see you all in next week’s episode.

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open And Halloween Banter
• 5:45 Autopen Allegations And Legal Fallout
• 17:00 Should Autopens Ever Sign Law
• 26:50 Shutdown Week Five And Blame Lines
• 35:30 EBT Shock, Misinfo, And Safety
• 46:30 Welfare Debates And Community Aid
• 54:40 Did 2020 Break The Democratic Party

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:01

It's the Alta Curto with Clay Note, serving up trending news and conservative news. Brought to you by the Alpha Curve and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

SPEAKER_04: 0:22

Well, hey now. What up, Clay? How are you? What is that from? What's well hey now? I feel like it's from something.

SPEAKER_11: 0:28

I think that was the 90s band. Was it Smash Mouth?

SPEAKER_04: 0:34

Oh, yes, you're right. Yeah. Hey now. Oh, we just, oh my gosh. We just talked to, guys, just before we we started, we were just talking about how badly we sing, and I just had the audacity to start singing. Ignore that, people. You didn't hear it. Nobody heard anything.

unknown: 0:50

No.

SPEAKER_02: 0:50

There will be none of it.

SPEAKER_04: 0:51

It is that bad. It is that bad. We both agree that we're terrible singers. And it doesn't stop either one of us. So whatever. Whatever. It's all good. How you been, Clay?

SPEAKER_11: 1:00

I'm I'm good. Um, you know, it's uh busy time of year for everybody. Um, you know, we're approaching the holidays, kids are getting ready for fall breaks, and and then, you know, Halloween is just around the corner. Are you a Halloween girl? Are you?

SPEAKER_04: 1:14

I am I am not. I never have been, not even when I was a kid. I actually had such a strong aversion to Halloween that it it became like psychosomatic type thing. Like I I was sick, I always got sick on Halloween. Like I I don't like to get scared. And my mother loves scary movies, like the scarier the better. So I was so traumatized as a child because now I'm date, I'm you know, aging myself, dating myself quite a bit here. Like she would be out there watching like Amneyville Horror and uh Rosemary's Baby and like all these things. And I would hear from it, it was a very small apartment when I was a kid. And I think I was so traumatized by anything scary, and of course, Halloween, people love to jump out and scare you. So uh strong aversion to it. And now I I get to say, well, I'm a Christian, so I don't really celebrate that. It's because I'm a big chicken and I'm terrified, and this is just bonus. So long answer, I do not. Do you guys?

SPEAKER_11: 2:15

Um, no, I so as a kid, you know, um, Chicago was always like it could be um 90 or it could be, you know, 32. So there were a few Halloweens with the Christmas coat or with the a winter coat over that costume kind of thing. There were plenty of uh Halloween's, you know, just drowned in rain. Um but um yeah, I I kind of stopped doing the Halloween thing. Like, you know, when I was in the army, they the the military would do a great job. We I'd say I'm fairly confident the military is who invented the trunk or treat um concept, which is great for little kids.

SPEAKER_02: 2:54

It really is.

SPEAKER_11: 2:55

But honestly, I think, you know, so many local places now are like we're not we're not trick or treating on Halloween. You're doing it on Thursday or you're doing it on on whatever random day that they select, and I think that kind of takes away from it. And I am way over scary movies, like I just it's not a thing anymore. So, you know, I I'm definitely more of a turn the lights off on Halloween and sit in the basement or the back of the house and not answer the door when kids come. So maybe if there's a thing as a Halloween Grinch, I might be that guy.

SPEAKER_04: 3:30

Yeah, yeah. I'm right there with you. I I'm getting more and more confident, Clay, that you and I are like twins separated at birth by a few couple few years. No, no. Oh no, no, yeah, I um I just I can't do it. Do you remember those Halloween costumes from when we were kids, like those plastic, nasty plastic masks?

SPEAKER_11: 3:54

The plastic mask with the with the elastic stapled in that five minutes after putting it on would snap out. Yeah, yeah. I remember those.

SPEAKER_04: 4:03

Oh, they were so awful. And if you were so blessed to have an older brother, he would come up and stick his finger right in the back of that elastic and just snap it right at the back of your head and you start crying.

SPEAKER_11: 4:14

An older sister would also do that.

SPEAKER_04: 4:16

Oh, so it's just older siblings thing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11: 4:20

You guys really Gen X is claustrophobic, those masks. All of Gen X has a claustrophobia and it comes from those Halloween masks.

SPEAKER_04: 4:29

Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I can even, as we're talking about it, I can even remember the smell of that plastic.

SPEAKER_11: 4:37

Try to breathe through that little mouth.

SPEAKER_04: 4:39

Oh, yeah, yeah. And you're literally like, yeah. So bad. Oh, yeah. I feel re-traumatized all over again. So yeah, uh, guys, we want to know from you. Celebrate this uh holiday. We'll call it. I do celebrate the candy though. Like, I'll buy all that candy and pretend like I'm gonna do it, but I I don't. I don't at all. Oh, Clinton, we got a lot of stuff. We've got a great show for everybody. Uh, topics that we did not expect to be still talking about, yet we are. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01: 5:12

They said he was running the country. Turns out it might have been a pen. Washington's fifth week of shutdown proves politicians love their paychecks more than yours. While DC fights trumped in the Pacific making real deals, alliances, minerals, and muscle. Back home, a New York candidate for citizenship comes under fire. At the border, heist and patrol finally tighten the reins, and the left, still trying to figure out when their big tent turned into a divided house. Oh, and there's a new AI kid on the block ready to rival Wikipedia. Now it's time for the show.

SPEAKER_04: 5:47

They said that he was running the country. It turns out it was a pen held by some staffers, and maybe even his Cokehead son, allegedly, uh, or his elder-abusing wife, allegedly. Um, yeah, I guess what we are talking about, my friends. Yeah, we're back on that auto pen because it's um it's still a conversation. It's become more of a conversation because uh House Oversight Chair James Comer has dropped that report on uh DOJ on the DOJ's desk, uh, alleging the Biden-era uh executive actions, including the the pardons and um whatever else, were all executed by auto pen by we don't know who. Or maybe we do.

SPEAKER_11: 6:31

Yeah, I we I know we talked about this way back when, um, but an auto pen, it still baffles me that people don't understand that an autopen is an actual physical um it's a machine, right? That it's code, there's an entry code to unlock it. Um, it logs in the all the signatures, but it is literally a machine that holds a pen that you put a document in and you push the buttons and it signs a pre-programmed signature. Um, so when they say autopen, it is literally an auto pen. Um but yeah, so it's come up uh with more detail that the auto pen in President Biden's office was used by people, not him, and also not authorized by him. Um and so, you know, as somebody who managed one of these things and had a code for one for a multi-star general for a little over a year, um, they they are tightly as well they should be tightly managed. And clearly the one in the Oval Office was not being tightly managed. And my understanding is that when they put the timeline, this is what really cracked all of this. When they put the timeline of some of the signatures against the timeline of President Biden's travel, there was the well, he wasn't even in the country when those were signed. That doesn't mean that there wasn't authorization given by him, but it did put everything under scrutiny. And as soon as that became, you know, apparent, um, the scrutiny got tighter and now we are where we are.

SPEAKER_04: 7:58

Oh, yes. So question number one for you, Clay. Uh, do you think that uh the autopen should be used like period at all? Should should we not have uh that as an option?

SPEAKER_11: 8:11

I think there should be clear stipulations on what it is used for, like what legally, like there should be a a statute, a law, something you know, on the books that says you can use it for and you cannot use it for. And I think more importantly, you cannot use it for like that specific list, should be very, very clear. Um you can use it for, like, listen, there's the president's signature is on a lot of things, and a lot of like, hey, thanks for coming to the White House, you know, thanks for being a visitor, hey, here's an invitation to an event. Like, if you want to put the president's signature on those kinds of non-legally binding documents, whether certificates of appreciation or things of that nature, fine. That saves any president, any administrative person, you know, the the chore of sitting at their desk for hours on end and signing them. I have no problem with that. Um, and in fact, when I manage one, that is primarily what we use them for for my boss. Um, we use the autopen for. Now, when it comes to legal documents, absolutely not. I think they're it should be, I think it should be put on the books. It is illegal to use it for all of the things that it seems to use it for. Pardons, for executive orders, for all of these things. Any legally binding document should not be allowed to have an autopen, period.

SPEAKER_04: 9:30

It feels like such common sense, right? I mean, you're talking about this is this, these are a big deal. We're talking about, you know, pardons, we're talking about legal matters here that affect a lot of different things. So it just seems like such a matter of course that that's the way it would be. Like I get, I get everybody should be able to get the whole like the tediousness of having to sign all of those things you were talking about. And absolutely a great opportunity to use an auto pen for that. Um, but yeah, absolutely. Legal documentation, that should be not only should that be signed by hand by the president, it should always be recorded. Like there should be, you know, we should be able to see them signing it, like put that camera right above their head so you can see that whole process. I mean, why not make it transparent? Be transparent. That's not a complicated concept. It seems to be when it comes to the Biden administration, of course. Um, I have another question for you, and I don't know if you know the answer. I literally just was wondering it what do we know what other presidents uh if and who used an auto pen for that same type of thing?

SPEAKER_11: 10:35

I I would imagine I I haven't seen anything that says one way or the other, but I would imagine he's not his presidency, his administration is not the first one to use it for legal documents.

SPEAKER_02: 10:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_11: 10:46

I would imagine it's probably been done, been used by by other presidents in the past, as long as autopens, which is quite a long time actually. It's not technology. Um, but I I would say that you know, there's supposed to be a log that goes with it, right? Yes. And and it says, you know, the auto pen was used for um, you know, on this date, authorized by, utilized by kind of thing, and it should all be logged for every single signature. Um and as soon as there isn't accountability for that, then then you have a significant problem. Um I I don't know I I think this has a lot more to do with uh the abuse of it relative to President Biden's mental decline uh than anything else. I I think, you know, you go back to any other president, and we can say whether it's President Trump, President Obama, President Bush, right? Just go back those three. And you say, did they use an auto pen? I'm sure that they did. Did they use it for legal documentation? I'm sure that they did. But I also believe that every one of them had the cognitive ability to authorize specifically the use of the auto pen to sign to put their signature on something. I think the point of contention is that President Biden may or may not have had that cognitive ability, and his staff clearly abused the fact that he didn't. Um that's really what I think is is up for debate. And I think it's what the DOJ or the House Oversight Committee who forwarded this to the DOJ and gave it to Pam Bondi and said, we need to really pursue legal action on this. Now, the people that it really is, I think are is being focused on are all of the Biden family pardons, the preemptive pardons, right? You remember we talked about this, the preemptive pardons were the ones that drew a lot of attention. The entire Biden family, Fauci, General Milley, and a handful of others who hadn't committed a crime, hadn't even been at the time accused of a crime or even indicted of a crime, but had been given a preemptive pardon. And I think that is uh where a lot of this is going to focus. And I think a lot of that, you know, guys like Adam Schiff, um, you know, and others who I think are also on that list. Um I I think they're all that's where the focus is at right now. Um, and and it's I can't believe that nine months, 10 months past, we're we're still talking about this. But evidently there's enough evidence out there for that House Oversight Committee to kick it to the attorney general um and say we we need to dig into this for reels.

SPEAKER_04: 13:22

Yeah, I tend to think that it took that long because they were making sure every eye was dotted and every right. I mean, you absolutely have to. And and I'm sure Pam Bondi said, Don't bring it to me until you have something ironclad, because I, you know, I don't want to have to reject it. Okay, because that's gonna open a whole new, you know, shit storm. Excuse my language, guys. Um, but yeah, you know, that'll be like Epstein 2.0. Why won't Pam Bondi prosecute? You know, why won't you go after, oh, she's in their pocket? So um, yeah, I I think that's a and this is gonna go to the Supreme Court, uh, guaranteed.

SPEAKER_11: 13:56

So I again I think your instinct of it better be right the first time, um, because what you don't want is something like this to go into the legal process for legal review and potentially um, you know, for legal action and have it be thrown out on an administrative technicality. Like that's the worst thing that could happen.

SPEAKER_04: 14:16

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And and listen, you know, there's always there's always and they're you know pretty much gonna be from the left that that are gonna say, oh, all this time is passed, the man is uh you know ill and elderly and all of these things, let it go. No, no, the people that were pardoned probably should be charged criminally. So uh they did a unexcusable amount of damage to this country, and I want to see them held accountable or you know, at least uh have the light shined on them, and we can find out what level of accountability and what really happened and who really did what. So I am all for this, uh, 100% all for this getting pursued the way that it is. And I I hope it hope it goes to all the next steps, which to me next steps would be, you know, obviously to the Supreme Court, and then they're gonna have to decide, you know, what's getting what, if anything, is getting voided, you know, what pardons are gonna get voided, and they should be. They simply should be gone, done.

SPEAKER_11: 15:14

Yeah, and listen, folks, this is the the one person who's not gonna get in trouble over this, truthfully, is president. Because if they determine that he was mentally incapacitated, he was incapable of making these decisions, then he can't be held accountable for the decisions, right? Right, right. The people who are gonna get held accountable for this are his staff, his, as you mentioned up front, his son, his wife, potentially, because now we know that they were in the office when this was these things are being discussed, probably his chief of staff, his aides across the White House, those folks who were in the office, in the Oval Office doing this, those are the people that are gonna be held accountable. Um and then, like you said, void uh the decisions that were made, which I I think is actually more important than holding the people accountable who took advantage of the situation. Right I think you know, making sure that we void those actions and allow justice to take place when it needs to for people like the Biden family, Hunter specifically, and his brother, uh, as well as um, you know, probably Fauci and some others. So um listen, folks, this is not over. I think you're we're gonna hear about this for a little while because, you know, as Elsa said, the the the Pam Bondi decision on how she's gonna handle this and how quickly uh is gonna see how long that this this takes and how long it drags out.

SPEAKER_04: 16:32

Yeah, absolutely. And that will start, you know, pending the results of that, uh, that has the potential to start a whole uh snowball effect of things, you know, because then the next question is gonna be okay, so he was he's been determined to have not been um having his faculties about him to make these decisions. So these decisions are void. What else should be void here that he you know he made decisions on? And um, yeah, it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens. I'll I'll be watching it very closely for sure.

SPEAKER_11: 17:06

Okay. Um, week five. Week five, folks. I cannot believe that we're here at week five. I can't believe that. Week five of government shutdown uh is uh officially is today, starts week five, so four four full weeks, and and really, you know, the significance of this week is we are now into the no-pay world for federal workers, right, um, the military itself, um, air traffic controllers, uh, et cetera, et cetera. Um, and we are no closer, it seems, to finding a solution than we were in week four, week three, and all the way back to week one.

SPEAKER_04: 17:44

Yeah, the the Schumer shutdown is now even getting uh some flack from Democrats from their own side. Now they're saying, all right, you know what, enough. Just just fix this. We have the uh the largest uh union of federal employees, that's the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents over 800,000 workers, are demanding that Democrats swallow the uh Republicans' clean CR to reopen the government, and basically saying, get the government open, figure out all the stuff after that, which is what the Republicans have been saying all along, like pass this clean, you know, uh resolution here and let's go. And then we can talk about all of these things, but let's get our people paid and and move on. And and the, you know, Schumer and and his clonies are all saying, nope, nope, not gonna do it. Don't care about Americans, don't care about our federal workers, and and oh, by the way, don't care about those snap EBT pays either.

SPEAKER_11: 18:48

Yeah, that seems to be that seems to be one of the biggest uproars this week uh across social media. Some of it mildly entertaining, a lot of it pretty disturbing. Um, but you know, that the move that's happening right now is that crowd, the EBT, uh, you know, folks on on government assistance and their reaction to this. Now, I I've seen a couple of different things, and and I will tell you, in all honesty, both sides of this discussion, both parties are have shown that they're misrepresenting what's going on in this. And I say that in, you know, so the EBT crowd has turned this into well, if I don't get my EBT, I'm gonna go rob Walmart. They can't catch us all. Like there was actually a call, I think it's for tomorrow. Uh oh, by the way, folks, today is the 30th. We are recording at our normal time, 4:30 on the East Coast. So we're about uh 450 right now, um, the day before Halloween. So you'll be watching this on right? Halloween is Halloween?

SPEAKER_04: 19:45

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, oh my gosh. No, wait, no. Yeah, the girl.

SPEAKER_02: 19:51

Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_11: 19:53

Show on Thursday. Regardless, there's a call, I think it is on the 30th, maybe, um, at 6:30 p.m. nationwide, that people will go into their local stores, grocery stores, specifically Walmart, I think has been targeted. Um, and they're gonna go in there, they're gonna fill up their buggies, buggies I kept seeing used, which is clearly a regional thing.

SPEAKER_12: 20:12

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_11: 20:13

And then and then just walk out. And the sentiment is they can't stop all of us. Um but these individuals have decided that they are entitled to this uh you know food program, and they're just gonna take what they need. Now, Walmart, folks, Walmart hasn't done anything. Walmart is gonna be a a very interested uh but innocent bystander in all this who's gonna get taken advantage of.

SPEAKER_02: 20:36

Right.

SPEAKER_11: 20:36

Um, and they have done nothing wrong. Like this isn't on Walmart, but I think they're gonna bear the brunt of it. Now, I I did see on Newsmax a very conservative, uh, you know, and I don't remember the guy's name, but he was misrepresenting the the EBT, the food stamp program, in the sense that he was saying, okay, well, you know, 50% of Afghan immigrants are on EBT. 46% of, and I'm and these numbers are in the ballpark, but they're not exactly, you know, 46% of Iraqi uh immigrants are on EBT. You know, 52% of Ugandan uh immigrants are on EBT. So he's using these, like these large percentage numbers, and he made it sound like you know, the American government was funding tens of thousands of immigrants. The reality, folks, is that 90% of the people who are on food stamps and EBT are American citizens. Okay? Yeah. That last 10% that this guy is misrepresenting are non, you know, non-American uh non-citizens who are on the program. So, you know, the vast majority of people being affected by this are in fact Americans. Like, let's not turn this into an illegal immigrant. There's enough issue with the government shutdown that has to do with illegal immigrants. EBT is not necessarily one of them. Okay. These are Americans who need these programs. And I will tell you that there are service members and their families who are already on EBT food stamps um on a normal paycheck month, let alone now they're not getting any paychecks. Um so you know, there's some there's some significant issues right now with with EBT uh and they're hitting this month. And it's uh things are gonna be things are gonna be dicey out there, folks. Um I I think across the board in any any store that sells food items normally accepts EBT. Right.

SPEAKER_04: 22:24

Yeah, and you know, there's I I've seen them too, Clay, and there's plenty of conversations that can be had about the abuses of the welfare system and the EBT SNAP program and all of this. Those are very, very valid conversations. Um, but you know, you do have to have something of a heart for people who are truly in a position uh where they need it. So we have to be careful. Uh, I don't mean you and I necessarily, um, I don't mean you and I at all, actually, in this particular case. Uh, but we as a society need to be very careful about making blanket statements about a whole population of people um who are in need of assistance. Um, my my issue, and I think all of our issues should be with the welfare system um of how broken and disruptive it really is and truly not helpful to people in need. But you know, although we talk, you know, this conversation has been had so many times about uh the difference between a hand up and a handout, and our welfare welfare system is a handout. It's it's become, I don't, I'd like to believe there was never designed to be this. I question that my mistrust of government uh, you know, at this stage of life makes me kind of say this very cautiously when I say, I would hope that the, I'll say it like this, I would hope that the intention was to be a hand up and not a handout to, you know, control portions of the population. Um, but you know, that is the case. When we're talking about the welfare system, that is the case. When you control the um when you control the the food, their resources, you control the people. So you shut that down for them and they can't access it. This is what's gonna happen. You know, this is the mentality that you'll see from a portion of that population, you know, who's abusing the system. The people who aren't abusing the system, technically, listen, if you've got kids' mouth to feed, children in particular to feed, you're gonna do what you got to do to feed your baby. So um they they need to fix this and they need to do it really, really fast. And this is, you know, yet another thing that is putting another nail in the coffin that was and is the Democrat Party, right?

SPEAKER_11: 24:30

Yeah, and so you know, there's a couple of things going on. You know, we hit we hit the EBT crowd. I I kind of touched on even the the military folks, and and uh listen, I I've I've blasted out and we've talked about you know, sec death, sec war, whatever you want to call them now, Hexit. This is an opportunity for him to solve this part of this problem for the military families. Okay. And I said this there are military families that even on a normal paycheck month are on government, you know, assistance programs. Like you've got a young uh you know, couple with a couple of kids and they're lower enlisted folks, they're not making a lot of money uh on a normal month and they're on government assistance. Now they're not even getting paid by the military. And just so people understand, if you're a single service member and you're living in the barracks, okay, you get a meal card to go eat in the chow hall, okay? So that's part of your monthly, you know, you go and and you get paid, you know, it's it's in your check. They don't even touch it. Um, you just go in and and you're in the chow hall. Families and and you know, folks who live off the base, they get a subsistence in their paycheck for food. Um, but if they're not getting paid, they're not getting that. So what I said, what I recommended uh was that sec war, sec death hexif, whatever he wants to be called, open up the chow halls to all the military families and allow them to run a tab until this is over with that would allow service members to and their families to eat um really three squares a day. Uh and then uh and then after it's over with, they can either settle a tab or do whatever he decides to do. I think you should just throw it away. But regardless, there's a solution there. Everybody else, though, like everybody else who is on food stamps and subsistence, you know, government uh assistance programs, there's no solution out there uh for the folks that really, really need it, other than churches. Yeah, and listen, I know you're a Christian and I know that you spend a lot of time, right? And and churches used to be the hub for charity, not the government, right? It came from churches, it came from goodwill of just people trying to be good human beings, and and has since been replaced in a lot of in a lot of ways by the government. I think we need to kind of relook that. I think there's food pantries out there that you know probably could use some donations right now that people need to lean on. I think there's some other other charity programs not government affiliated that we need to get to. Um, and and I think those can be some of the solutions for this. But listen, folks, this um, you know, air traffic controllers you expect some flu this weekend. They are now not getting paid. You've got, as you said, Elsa, that you know, all these federal workers aren't getting paid, federal law enforcement is not getting paid. Um, you've got a lot of folks out there doing a lot of things that are not getting paid. And folks, there's no mistake here. This is the Democrats doing this. King Jeffries has made, he said it today, you know, we have a we have a floor that we're not going below.

SPEAKER_12: 27:30

Right?

SPEAKER_11: 27:30

So he has put a hard line and said, we will not vote, we will not open the government again until we, you know, until the Republicans come up to where our baseline meant. So they're not even negotiating, they're not even open to discussion, with the exception of a few, including Federman. Um they are the ones that are holding this up. And there are a lot of politicians out there that are saying, and and don't mistake this, folks, just because there's a Republican in the White House, they control the Senate, they control the House, and they control quote unquote control the Supreme Court, that doesn't mean that they can do this without uh you know help from the Democrats. This has to be both parties in the middle of this. You can't just blame Republicans for this because the president can't fix this. As much as everybody wants to say orange man bad, and blame it on President Trump, this this is not it. He can't fix this.

SPEAKER_04: 28:18

No. No, you know, uh all of this talk from uh from the Democrats blaming um you know Trump, namely, and uh the GOP for this. Um you you all are the ones holding this up. You know, the the Republicans are not saying we're not gonna discuss this ever. They're saying we're gonna put this, this is on the table for discussion, but we need to get the government open. We need to have this open to take care of our of our people here, and then we can discuss it. But we're not gonna be bullied into throwing a bunch of BS in there that doesn't belong in there. Um, you know, we're not but we're not gonna cower down to you essentially holding the American people hostage. It's not acceptable. We don't we don't negotiate with uh terrorists, right? I mean, that's our thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11: 29:08

So yeah, it's folks, just you know, for for the rest of the world, for the rest of us, the rest of America, um, just be aware that it is gonna get dicey in some food places over the next few days and pot hopefully not, but a few weeks potentially. So um, you know, if you if you can uh avoid those locations. Um, but obviously a lot of people can't. So just be aware of your surroundings when you go into grocery stores, Walmart, places like that, because the amount of crime uh is about to increase significantly. So just be aware of your surroundings.

SPEAKER_04: 29:41

Yep. That is excellent advice and uh very worthwhile advice because it is it's gonna be a thing that the more we go into this, the more desperate people get. And and it's not, you know, so you have that, right? You have the the more people uh get desperate, legitimately. Uh you also have the ones that are gonna take advantage. advantage like the ones we were talking about in all those videos. They're just gonna take advantage of the situation. They they've got food. They're fine. They're totally fine. They're just gonna take advantage of the situation and they're just gonna loot, you know, loot stores just because.

SPEAKER_11: 30:12

Just because they this is the um you know the George Floyd riots, you know, for racial equality that turned in, you know, stealing Louis Vuitton. Right. Yeah exactly.

SPEAKER_04: 30:23

Right. And and the proof of that is going to be, you know, the the handful of guys running out of um Walmart with you know flat screen TVs. Right. And not steaks, you know, not uh you know not some boxes of cereal. Nope. I don't know how you're gonna eat that that flat screen but you know uh enjoy I guess so you know we already know we already know exactly what's gonna happen here. And um you know all of the all of the innocent law abiding good humans out there are the ones that are just suffering for all this it's so it's so frustrating and so maddening. I I can't even um since we're talking about the Democrats you want to move on to that one Shimon okay uh let's talk about was 2020 the breaking point of the Democrat Party what do you think?

SPEAKER_11: 31:09

Yeah I I believe it is I a little bit of introspection over the last few days and I was trying to go back you know I've been watching um specifically the the couple of races that are going on right now and you're talking Virginia governor um you're talking New York City mayoral and those are the two big headline ones that we're gonna talk about New York City in a little bit but um you know you go back to 2020 uh and so President Trump looking for reelection just to set the stage for everybody and the Democrats could not get a viable candidate if so think back folks remember this they couldn't get a viable candidate and so they grabbed Joe Biden and if you remember he didn't even campaign he came in late right he sat in his basement he barely campaigned um so you know he was forced in you know there was some shenanigans that went on you know there was a divided opinion we've President Obama has been documented as saying you know don't put it past Joe and his ability to F things up or whatever the quote is oh yeah he was not a fan right and they needed someone um and so it was it was Biden and then it was you know the DEI hire of your your buddy Kamala and and then it was the eighty one million votes yeah yeah we can call it the graphic for that right right 81 million votes everybody's seen it now just keep in context eight years no four years before that pre eight years before that President Obama was one of the most popular presidents he was their superstar in modern history yes when he was elected for his second term not his first term his second term 66 million votes right and then Joe Biden Joe Biden who didn't campaign stayed in his basement got 15 million more votes um for that presidential election um and then so he got elected and then it became law fair right the goal was not the goal was to make sure that Trump or any specifically Trump could not run again in 2024. Right that was the goal yes it wasn't even about retain it was about making sure Trump couldn't run it was all of the lawsuits it started off with the Mar-a-Lago raid it's all of those things and then you start to have the splinters you started to have the squad became more and more prevalent right and and Bernie Sanders and his he you know his socialism that he's been trying to push for the last 30 years is got got a little um but I I think 2020 and that election and Joe Biden going into the White House was the breaking point for the Democratic Party in that it's all hardline left.

SPEAKER_04: 33:55

Yeah yeah oh absolutely they this this is truly the uh you know momdani openly calls himself a so uh democratic socialist like that's that's the term that they use and as we know of course Bernie is you know that's long time been been his thing and you know the the the the term democrat socialist is the most one of the most annoying things you could ever hear if you're a thinking person, right? Like everybody knows what these terms mean and they what everybody was thinking and paying attention. There is nothing good whatsoever that can has or will ever come from socialism. So what do they do? They slap another word on it like well everybody we love being a Democrat so for democratic socialist that's different. No it's not different. It's not different you're just adding a word to soften it and make it sound more attractive to a population that maybe would have still had the sense to recoil at the word socialist because they understood what that actually means. You know so now you have this this whole group and like you said they they are running the show they have taken over the party they are the voice of the party and anyone you know your your your mama's Democratic party you know doesn't exist anymore. They those people still exist. They're still alive they're still you know wandering around scratching their heads like what happened and not understanding that they lost their party it's gone and it's I don't think it's ever coming back. I mean you basically would have to completely rebrand and I mean that would take you know a decade if not longer.

SPEAKER_11: 35:31

And listen I I know folks are going to talk about you know President Obama being the the the president or the administration of of division right that that that's not this right we're that's division between Republicans and Democrats right you've got you know the next kind of step was Russia gate. That's dirty politics okay and and politics is always dirty that was just very blatantly dirty politics. Yeah America has always taken stuff like that you know and you could go back to Watergate and America as a whole looks at that and American politicians look at that and they go that was that was too far and the pendulum swings back. Right right there has been no swing back of the pendulum since 2020. None in fact it's gotten worse. I was just gonna say it's gotten so much worse and I and I think that specifically the election of 2020 you know followed by the election of 2024 where Biden bowed out late they put Kamala in there with zero electoral votes truthfully you know um zero choice by the public you know now you're now we're hearing through some of the books uh that are coming out that President Obama did not endorse didn't want to endorse Kamala Harris um Nancy Pelosi uh they supposedly had a secret meeting neither one of them was going to endorse Kamala Harris and then when Joe Biden did it on stage Nancy said hey that you know the horse is out of the barn and she did it too and supposedly Obama called her up and said what the F did you just do so there's a lot of fracturing going on within the Democratic Party and the people who are taking advantage of it are the squad people like Tom Donnie rightries and all the rest of these folks and you're right I don't think it's there's it's irreparable at this point. I I there's no and there's no voice in the future that any of us have seen in the Democratic party because it's not Newsom it's not Pritzker it's not any of those you know any of the up and comers quote unquote hero maybe but doubtful that could bring the Democratic party back together and back to reality back to a rational thought process. I think they're I think it's they're gone.

SPEAKER_04: 37:40

They're gone because they're all you know for the most part they're all older this is the whole crop of young bloods that are are are in now and they are they're running with it. I mean obviously Bernie's the exception to that he's just hanging on for dear life that's but you know the the only one and again anytime I bring up this guy's name I'm always like I can't even believe I'm using this guy in a positive light in any way shape or form but you know the only one um that's that's notable talking any sense that people actually pay a little attention to is Fetterman just so bizarre to me but even still he just doesn't have what it takes. He's not a good speaker.

SPEAKER_11: 38:20

And they're trying to vote him out like exactly of course him in Pennsylvania right now right on the next they're already campaigning against him the Democrats are of course out of office because he has gone so centrist and even so much more to the right um so even when you do have someone who is willing to cross the aisle willing to negotiate willing to you know move forward with progress they want him out because it's all it's become an extremist movement and that's where they're at. And so even Cuomo who we're we're both saying is the lesser of two really evil options for New York City um is is I saw him in an interview today. He was saying if you know if mom don he's using spear in his own party now the fracturing he was saying if mom Dani wins New York then Trump is going to roll tanks down Main Street and take over the city by force because he's going to use Mam Dani as an excuse. So now you've got this fractured infighting inside of the Democrats you know that they're now going against each other. So there it's pretty broken and I don't see a fix. I certainly don't see a fix by 2028 no no I agree.

SPEAKER_04: 39:34

No they um I my goodness I I wish I had the crystal ball to see what's going to happen here but um the this party has the Democrat Party has has completely shifted and changed and uh again I I fully believe that they are not getting that party back. Um I I don't see it happening. Again if it's gonna happen it's you know you got a decade if not longer before that can happen because they just have too much steam they have too much financial backing from very nefarious deep pocket people right um and who want to see this happen. And you know they these are people who have been playing and I've talked about this before right we've talked about this they played the long game. This is decades in the making and we were asleep at the wheel we weren't paying attention we weren't taking it serious enough we believe that we had enough um patriots patriotism you know people and then you had all of the illegal immigrants coming through and it's a deep deep hole in the Democrats that once existed just don't have the steam to dig out of this.

SPEAKER_11: 40:43

They just don't they don't yeah the Kennedy the Kennedy Democrats are gone.

SPEAKER_04: 40:46

They're gone they're gone end of a a sad tragic crash and burn ending of an era for sure. And since we were bringing up mom dying we must uh we might as well go right into that right yeah Clay was laughing at me because I actually when I put in our little headings there I put it in twice he's like you must really want him to get deported huh yeah I do yeah that would be nice that would be good so I listen I don't know I don't know if there's going to be any steam to that whatsoever but um you have two House Republicans uh are asking the DOJ DOJ to review um Mamdani's naturalization they're citing potential omissions talk of denaturalization uh and deportation so that's the conversation there you know let's let's call it what it is they are trying to find anything that they can to get this guy out because he is a genuine legitimate risk to not only New York City but the whole country really um so yeah I mean that's their that's what they're trying to do.

SPEAKER_11: 41:44

I don't I mean what do you think are they gonna so he's he's born in Uganda he's a dual citizen he's born in Uganda he's got uh still still to this day has dual citizenship with Uganda and the United States um his mother even said in a I read this today in a in an interview uh that he doesn't even consider himself an American he considers himself a Ugandan now this she said this a number of years ago but she did say it in an interview um that he didn't consider himself an American he considers him because he was raised between he was born in Uganda and he was raised back and forth between India and the United States so he considers himself a Ugandan and an Indian and not an American um now I'm sure if questioned he would say oh well that was my mom that said that or yes she said that she said that 10 years ago I consider myself an American now I'm sure he'll talk out of it. Yeah just like he's talking his way out of the whole my aunt with her on the subway okay whatever that was how did that work out that of course you know don't they know that they're gonna get chapped like people will scour always they will do the things to find they don't I don't care they they watched Joe Biden do it for an entire career lying over and over again telling these stories about people and places and times that didn't line up and continued to do it. Right. And we all just caught on at the end and we're like hey the guy's senile and in reality he's been doing it for his entire career and they've all been watching it and they don't care either. This is the same thing right so what you know that this effort to denaturalize to take away his American citizenship and then deport him to Uganda has has some teeth. And Marco Rubio I think has not necessarily weighed in on this officially um I would not put it past him to be on board with this and to and to to take action on it. The question is is this the American way? And and I this is going to be an unpopular opinion. My opinion is no it's not my opinion is he is an American citizen. He has not done anything legally treasonous to the nation that anybody can prove that he hasn't been tried for and therefore he has every right to run for office just like any other American citizen. Because people don't like his politics is not a reason to take away citizenship and send him away. People will argue with me and that's fine but I don't think that that's the American way. Unfortunately I think the American way allows him to run for mayor of New York be elected the mayor of New York which will happen and then thus le destroy the city of New York. And I know that people are worried about him as a as a you know a threat to uh American businesses to you know our most populous the most popular city in the nation etc but there's no legal reason to do this. Now if they're gonna find a loophole like you said and it's like oh well he left out one of his addresses or whatever it is some administrative reason to to to do this right okay then then you know we're probably abusing the legal system in ways that if it was used against us in the same way we wouldn't be very happy about. So unpopular opinion I I don't think he should be deported.

SPEAKER_04: 45:00

I really really don't just there was some conversation or some stuff that I had read um to basically to the effect of that he was a part when he came here he was part of a socialist or communist um group or party or whatever it was that I don't think they use the word communist but socialist which we all know we know what we know here. One leads to the other exactly like they're hand in hand here. They're married basically um that because he was part of that group that it makes his um citizenship void or or not not possible because of that uh affiliation so if that is I mean if it's as simple as that then yeah I I I hear what you're saying Clay and it's I I you know I don't disagree with you in the I don't know the moral ethical sense of doing things but I also say I also have to say the flip the exact opposite and say I really want them to find something because this guy is going to get in otherwise and he is an absolute detriment it's such a mild word to use um to New York City the citizens to I think I again I always think about these poor people who are going to be affected the ones that are just trying to earn a living have a life do the right thing pay their taxes pay their bills take care of their family and and they are the going to be the ones to suffer profoundly from the actions of this man. I have to show you guys I I just saw it this afternoon and I snagged it for us to watch uh Cuomo who who we do not like let's you know let's just reiterate that every time but he put out an ad I don't know if you saw this play but uh he put out an ad um against obviously mom Donnie and it's all like AI but it's pretty good. It's a little bit lengthy but we're gonna watch it because it's good.

SPEAKER_03: 47:06

So here it is guys an inexperienced radical whose policies will make New York City more dangerous. But what do his actual supporters think?

SPEAKER_08: 47:13

Mom Donnie isn't crazy even the play in the field give everyone a fair job.

SPEAKER_11: 49:02

Ouch wow ouch yeah there were no punches pulled on that one at all um yeah it's say what you will say what we will about uh Como and his team there that was a pretty um in your famous ad right there I again folks this is going back to touching on the last topic like this is the the broken fighting inside of the Democrat Party right now. And again he's he's fear mongering a little bit I I don't think he's too far off of reality but right he's bringing it to the forefront you know the AI was a little sketchy but it gets sketchy on us. Yeah yeah exactly he did say it out loud like he fully expects uh on the day of momdani's inauguration that Trump's gonna roll tanks down Main Street New York and and that's he's gonna take over the city. Um so yeah it's uh I it listen if they can find folks I don't support mom donnie at all don't get me wrong um but if they and if they can find that he lied on his citizenship application then sure absolutely take it away from him send him away um but it again if if we're reaching for straws that he he didn't dot an eye um and it was an administrative error versus a blatant you know attempt to defraud or or lie then you know I think we've got a a different discussion to have but uh it's uh it's folks it's coming we're like yeah what are we a week two weeks away uh yeah less than less than right yeah yeah it's um I I just I feel a deep sense of dread with the whole thing I just feel like it's a foregone conclusion of what's going to happen here um you know I I did see that they said uh Como made some big leaps there but I think Sliwa is not backing down he's not backing out right I mean he's dug his heels in um I listen we already kind of the writing's on the wall here you know what's likely to happen and uh act accordingly I will I will speak on behalf of my soon to be adopted well not soon but soonish adopted state of Florida don't go there stay out don't do it don't a lot of them planning it already oh yeah yeah long beach is the destination um yeah I heard uh there's a couple of that Florida is the primary destination for the the uh New York escape um so uh and I know Governor DeSantis is I'm sure ecstatic about that oh yeah I am sure I am sure oh all right so we've got we've got two last ones here um I think it's a nice one I like it so we'll do this one first let's talk about Trump's trip to the Pacific and let's just start it off with a little bit of fun from it here.

SPEAKER_04: 51:41

Here we go. I love it. I love that I enjoyed that I think we all enjoy that so they love him they do they do uh they loved him and you know this isn't a frivolous dumb trip that people are you know because you know the left I'm sure I don't even know but I'm sure they're saying things like oh it must be nice to just uh leave you know crisis at home right and go have some fun with your new little friends and I'm glad they're more important to you than we are you know they're saying all the obnoxious things um billions billions of dollars in trade in business in investment and oh by the way ended a war while you just you know for kids just you know just felt like it so it's like that you ever see that mean felt cute today felt I'd end a war so Malaysia Thailand Cambodia Japan South Korea Vietnam all business deals right so you've got trade deals you've got investments in uh in the US you've got all of that you know billions and billions and billions hundreds of billions of dollars and then signed the Kuala Lumpur peace accords which ended a war between Cambodia and Thailand key deals with South Korea um what I what did you talk about uh rare earth minerals right um which is a big thing now that gives us a lot us not just us us Japan and Australia is also tied into that deal yeah uh some freedom from China uh and their their control over rare earth metals right um which are the things that go into I don't know like computer chips and phones airplanes uh electric cars all of all of the things that we depend on basically right so and and you you know put out one of the biggest key points there that reducing our dependency on China big big deal here really big deal here so don't uh don't play it down folks this was a very important move that he did and uh it's great he is he is supposed to meet today I think with uh Xi Ping from China yes um and and then he did open the door he offered a he offered a meeting to Rocketman in North Korea who didn't take it but he did open the door um you're gonna see some activity on this meeting with China today guaranteed uh and and so um we'll see what comes out of this but already a successful trip i i mean you can tell what you want my goodness and then yeah they published today he's gonna get off the plane tomorrow he's gonna go he's hosting an event in the middle of the day right off the plane and then he's giving out candy to trick or treaters tomorrow night so he literally you know Joe Biden would have been down for a he'd have come off first of all he never would have made the trip second of all if he made the trip it would have been two days one stop and he'd be back and then he'd be out for a week yes he couldn't do this if he tried President Trump's gonna get off the plane he's gonna go do some more events and he's gonna roll right in and you know what folks if he goes golfing on Sunday good for him leave the guy alone and earn that exactly he can golf and you know what if he does go golfing on Sunday he'll be working while he's golfing he will be making deals and like and he'll he'll probably shoot under 85. Right yeah like the dude's amazing and you know hate him all you want you can't keep up with him try to show me someone half his age that can keep up with that man's schedule yeah he's incredible I don't care if you hate him I don't care if you love him I don't care about any of that you need to at least give him that that man never ever stops he works so hard for this country that he loves so much and I respect and admire that about him so so much and I don't really care if he don't so whatever it's all good by me. Last one of the evening um Elon's XAI has released the beta version of their they're calling it Groncopedia and it's to rival Wikipedia. And I think that is really very interesting. I don't know if it's good, bad or indifferent. I just think that it's really interesting. Hence we're throwing it in here for our last lighter topic here. You know obviously AI is such a uh huge point of contention for people rightly so it is something that has grown to such a degree that it's out of control. I cannot stand some of these uh AI videos there's a platform called Sora I think it's called out right now right and and I know everybody's loving it everybody's in uh enjoying it these these hokey uh videos that are you know really now if you recogni you know you if you know you know you recognize it because it's the same type of thing that they're doing over and over again I personally cannot stand them I I scroll past them so fast because I don't know maybe it's like uh maybe it's my little bit of bitterness because I I you know write script perform edit I do all of the work for my own skits and everything and people are just like generating and like so rude but whatever you know that's all it is what it is. I am not a fan uh if you're on the right it's very likely that you are not a fan of Wikipedia because this is so profoundly biased because people can input information and change it and do all those things. So I will be checking I have not yet I I followed it or whatever. I don't know I bookmarked it I think is what I did. Uh Gracopedia I'm gonna look into a free guys I'm I maybe will even make a page for myself and y'all maybe you guys can jump in and edit it. Be nice you hear me you behave.

SPEAKER_11: 57:26

I I told Elsa before the show folks that I I don't go much on Twitter. It just doesn't the I I I don't use it. But I I did pop on it the other yesterday and I saw this like this was the first thing that popped up obviously it's on X slash Twitter. But you know uh Elon Musk literally called Wikipedia Wokapedia because of the ability for people to go in there and edit anybody can go in and edit Wikipedia as we all know so what they've been doing is they've been wokeifying Wikipedia. They're literally editing out truthful things adding in things that go with the woke mindset and they're changing what you know the entries are to fit that narrative and he's like we we can't do this anymore. So Gracopedia is supposed to be fact based, not opinion based. I don't know how much editing is going to be allowed available I don't know how it's going to work.

SPEAKER_04: 58:18

I don't think there's going to be much at all like it it's um the way I understand it is that it is so committed to fact-based material. Like I started like I typed in a uh a question like how do you make a page on Grackopia how you make a page and I I did it so soon before we did this so don't quote me on this this is like very loose. Uh basically the gist of it is like you put in your information, you start inputting the information and it warns you to not you know lie or embellish because it's gonna flag it and it's gonna stop you immediately because it's like fact checking you in real time. So fabulously fascinating I think from that. So here's I I do have an example I for I almost forgot that I pulled this up for you guys. So this is um the Wikipedia version of George Floyd and as you can see he's an African American man who was murdered by a white police officer in Minneapolis blah blah blah um you can probably freeze this and and read it all yourselves if you so choose okay so that's that's theirs all right now here is the Gronk version of that which is really very just the facts ma'am like like straightforward Georgia gives his full name American man lengthy criminal record which I don't think that the Wikipedia one even mentioned his criminal history um drug possession theft gives the facts of the circumstances of what happened um and just very factually straightforward here's what happened no you know misleading or leading you know words or statements or anything like that. So from that alone uh it it piques my curiosity so I we would love to hear what you guys think of that. Of course we want to hear what you think of all of the topics um pipe in give us your Opinions, your thoughts. Uh, if you gotta correct us on something, go ahead and correct us. We have to think again, so we don't get insulted. If we were wrong on something, call it out. If we were right, even more importantly, if we were right, tell us how right we are. Oh, but as usual, Clay, you did an awesome giant job um picking out our topics, all really, really important topics that are so stressful.

SPEAKER_11: 1:00:26

America's doing it for me. I I don't know, it's not hard. Nowadays, it's not hard. It's just it's uh you you pop through three or four news outlets and the same six or seven topics come up, uh, and I just grab the ones that I think are uh most interesting for us, and I'm I'm happy to do it, and it's always fun to do it with you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:44

Thank you, my friend. Awesome. And you guys are also our absolute favorite part of doing this every week. We thank you for tuning in. We thank you for sharing the show and supporting us and giving us uh feedback and all those great things. Um, we're so appreciative to see the show growing. Uh we love you guys very much, and we will see you all in next week's episode. Clay, you go ahead and close them out. You got something to say. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_11: 1:01:08

I do. We have to everybody has to congratulate Elsa. 400,000 followers.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:13

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_11: 1:01:14

Like that's a huge thing. I'm just happy to be riding the coattails, folks. Um, but 400,000 followers, that's a big milestone for Elsa. Congratulations to you, lady. Uh happy to be your partner and and proud for you. So uh give everybody, folks, uh, just give Elsa a little round of applause in your living room, and uh, we will see you next week. And for me, as always, keep moving, keep shooting.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:34

Take care, guys. Thank you.

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