Inside the “Schumer Shutdown,” Soldier Standards, and a High-Stakes NYC Mayoral Crossroads

We break down the shutdown’s blame game, the Pentagon’s hard reset on standards, and why NYC’s mayoral race could reshape the city’s future. We also examine Big Tech’s settlement over censorship, the silence around Christian persecution, and Kamala’s word-salad tour.

• clean CR blocked, partisan optics, Friday resolution likely
• spending steady vs new demands, public fatigue with brinkmanship
• fitness, grooming, merit emphasis, trimming DEI and busywork
• caution on ROE, trainee treatment, and public reprimands
• conditions-based federal help for cities, avoid mission creep
• NYC race framed as vote-against choice, public safety stakes
• Big Tech settlement signals speech suppression costs
• global Christian persecution underreported by mainstream
• Kamala’s messaging mirrors identity vs electability tension
• community standard set for civil, substantive debate

If you haven’t read it yet, Keep Moving, Keep Shooting is book one; Cross to Bear is book two; and Rebellous launches on Veterans Day, November 11

Chapters

• 0:00 Banter, Pace-Setting, Show Agenda
• 2:16 Government Shutdown: Blame, Votes, and CR Path
• 9:45 Political Optics and Public Impact
• 14:40 Sec. of War Address: Fitness, DEI, Standards
• 22:05 ROE, Basic Training, Accountability Concerns
• 29:20 Federal Help in Cities: Authority vs Overreach
• 36:05 NYC Mayoral Stakes: Cuomo vs Mamdani
• 43:20 Big Tech Settlement Over Censorship
• 48:10 Global Christian Persecution and Media Silence
• 55:30 Kamala’s Book Tour and Messaging
• 1:00:20 Closing, Book Announcements, Sign-off

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:01

It's the Alpha Curve Show with Clay Nova, serving up trending news and conservative views. Brought to you by the Alta Curve Club and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

SPEAKER_08: 0:21

Well, hey there. I was like, did you hear that sound? I was just adjusting my microphone and I it squeaked. Did you hear that?

SPEAKER_04: 0:26

I did hear that. Everybody heard the squeak. A little bit of a beep, yes.

SPEAKER_08: 0:30

What's that stuff called? WD40?

SPEAKER_04: 0:31

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_08: 0:33

Fixes everything. Fixes everything. Oh my goodness. I'm already starting us off the rails. Hi, Clay. How are you today?

SPEAKER_04: 0:40

I'm doing well. It is Wednesday, folks, uh 4 30 Eastern time. We are in the middle of a government shutdown, among many, many other things that we got going. We're doing okay. How are you?

SPEAKER_08: 0:51

I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm kind of um, I don't know. I feel like it's another one of those uh weeks where I'm a little discombobulated. And I don't really have a good reason why. I just simply am. I don't know. I put too many things on my plate. I wanted to do two. Have you ever done this, Clay? You have like five million things you want to do, but you want them all done like five minutes ago. Like that's a day in my life every day. I always do that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12

Yeah, I um with uh with the release of the second book, I've been like reinvigorating like podcast appearances and other things. And it's like, you know, I've been stacking stuff on top of each other with very few breaks, then all of a sudden I look down and my day is completely consumed. So yes, I completely understand what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_08: 1:28

Thank you. Yeah, it's just wild. It's wild. And it's not a bad thing. I'm not, it's not a complaint, just an acknowledgement, right? Like busy is good, productive is good, but it's the same thing. It gets to the end of the day, and you're like, especially when you do if you're doing desk work. Like that to me is always the crazy thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42

Like you feel like if you sit, if you're so busy you forget to eat, and then all of a sudden it's like five o'clock and you're like, I'm starving. Yes.

SPEAKER_08: 1:48

Yeah, yeah. I I am I am actually at that point right now. So if you hear my stomach grumble, guys, we're all gonna pretend you didn't hear it. Okay. Just pretend with me that you hear it. Yeah, this was one of those. It's it's so funny that you said that. As soon as you said, I'm like, I'm hungry. Oh well. What are you gonna do? Okay, listen, guys, we've got uh we've got the usual, we've got quite a few topics for you. Um starting right. Well, I mean, we should start right off the bat with the uh with the shutdown. So how about that? Uh at 1201 a.m., the federal government went into shutdown thanks to a Senate blockade of the GOP's clean funding bill. They're calling this the Schumer Shutdown, right? It's the Schumer Shutdown. You've got a funny graphic too.

SPEAKER_04: 2:34

Yes. So for those that don't know or don't aren't tracking, um, you know, the federal government operates their fiscal years, the 1st of October to the 30th of September. It's not, you know, most people, most businesses operate on a 1 January to 31 December, but the federal government is is not. So the government shut down uh as of midnight last night, because today is October 1st, obviously. And um the reason is what the Republicans, what the GOP asked for is uh just a you know, they wanted to stay literally no change in spending, no increases or decreas, steady state until middle of November, so they could actually discuss real budgetary issues, which I think all of America would under would agree should have been resolved by now. But they asked for another, I think it's seven weeks with no change, is what they asked for.

SPEAKER_07: 3:24

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 3:24

Right. And the Democrats absolutely minus three. There are three that jumped over and agreed that, you know, let's take the seven weeks and they voted with the GOP, um, but it wasn't enough votes. Uh, and so, you know, it's we're in a shutdown because the Democrats are holding it hostage.

SPEAKER_08: 3:42

Yeah, I mean, that's that's I mean, that's it in a nutshell, right? That's what they're doing. And of course, they're they're blaming the GOP, and it's it's them. Um, and it's it's crazy. And what else is new? The American people are the ones that are are made to suffer for their nonsense, really. And, you know, I've seen a lot of posts, a lot of different things, you know, uh, one of them being uh I just saw it like five minutes before somebody said, you know, uh, this is probably one of those cases where you shut down and nobody's even gonna notice because you weren't even doing your job in the first place. So, you know, and I and I don't know how I don't know how true, you know, how accurate that is, but it does give you a moment to pause. Um, so what the heck's gonna happen next?

SPEAKER_04: 4:22

What do you what do you think is uh your your point about the Schumer shutdown is interesting because what everybody is saying is that Schumer has orchestrated this because he wants to appear to be a hardliner for once because he is scared to death that he is going to be replaced by AOC and that would be the turning point. Right. He was quote unquote soft um and and worked with the Republicans and and you know worked with the whip and you know got the votes that were needed to extend, then he would be seen as weak. And he doesn't want because he is afraid he's gonna be replaced by AOC, which is why they're calling us the Schumer Shutdown. Um so that's part of it. Um, there are Republicans right now that are introducing measures where Congress doesn't get paid at all until this passes, which I think we can all agree on. Listen, if the lowest enlisted person in any of the armed services is not getting paid right now, then Congress should not be getting paid right now.

SPEAKER_08: 5:17

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04: 5:18

Um there are the people that are saying, well, the Republicans own the White House, they own the House, they own the Senate. This shutdown is on them. Well, the reality is it's not because they have to have 60 votes to move through. They don't have while they do have control of that of the you know Congress in both houses, um, they don't have enough of an advantage to just override, which is where they're trying to get right now. So I think this goes the way of many of these shutdowns. I think the last one, it's been a while. Um maybe 10 years, pretty close, uh, maybe a little longer. But um, I think this goes the way that that most of them go. I think then within the next probably what's today? Today's Wednesday. I would bet by Friday, um, a resolution, you know, this green, what did you call it? It's the um uh the green or the the continuing, it's a continuing resolution, is basically what that'll get passed. I think by Friday, um, you know, there'll be enough Democrats that will have succumbed to the pressure, they will have flipped, and there'll be enough for this to to pass, and it'll get them through the seven weeks into November, and then they'll discuss all this stuff and we'll probably go through another continuing resolution in November.

SPEAKER_08: 6:24

Yeah, yep. Oh my goodness. And and you know, and again, uh it's it's important to note that, you know, this is another case of Democrats not listening to the American people. I think the number was something that like 60, and I could be even low balling, but 65% of Americans uh did not want a government shutdown. Like, you know, I mean it's it's kind of a given, you know, that that would be the case. So I'm sure the number is even higher than that. Um, but yeah, you know, again, another case of them not listening to the people that they serve. And that is what we are so sick and tired of. We're just done with it. And this is, you know, just another great example of why. We said no, don't do it. They said we're gonna do it anyway because we want to stomp our feet and and uh, you know, just stick it to Trump and stick it to the Republicans and and um yeah, no, and here's where we are.

SPEAKER_04: 7:11

Yeah, and and what people don't realize is that the the seven week stay was was nothing, there was literally no change. So all of the funding for all the things that the Democrats have right now that they want that are already being paid for would not have changed for the next seven weeks. It would have been allowed for another seven weeks of deals and negotiations. What they've turned around and asked for is$1.5 trillion in healthcare specifically for illegal aliens, right? Right. So and you know, Americans who right now don't have health care are being told or can't afford healthcare are being told that their taxes are going to be used to provide health care for people who aren't Americans. Right. You know, sub you know, subsidy. So whether you're on welfare, whether you're on whatever, like any government program that is funding you is right now at risk. So of course 65% of the people don't want this to happen. I'm surprised it's that low, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_08: 8:13

Yeah, that's I you know I feel the same way. That was the number that I saw. And even when I read it, I'm like, uh, that doesn't feel right. I feel like that number's a lot higher than that.

SPEAKER_04: 8:21

So well, there's 35% of the people, truthfully, that probably don't care. Like it has no effect on their life. So they really don't it doesn't bother them. But regardless, our government should never be shut down like this. I know Congress, even just a few minutes ago, there was an attempt by the GOP to, you know, do another vote to get the 60 to move it along. It fell short again. So, but I I think by Friday, again, I think this will be resolved. It may even be by the time this show airs tomorrow night. But I think definitely by Friday, I think this will be resolved. I hope. But I that's my anticipation.

SPEAKER_08: 8:49

And I I, you know, I just simply hope that it serves as yet another nail in the coffin for the Democrats for this party uh and the way that they're doing this. This is uh this is insane. You know, again, not to be a broken record, you're hurting the American people, or you're you're you're indifferent to the potential, potential of hurting American people by doing this to give aid to illegal aliens. And and this is literally the only thing that they seem to care about ever. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 9:17

Well, and I'll be honest with you, I think they're only doing this because this is not a major election year. There are only a very few elections, and we're gonna talk about one of them, and it's a local election, the New York City mayoral election, but there are only a few elections this year, and they're gubernatorial. Um, there's not a lot of congressional seats at risk. Actually, I don't know if there's any at all, but this is not a major election year. There's no way that they would be doing this to let it to be the bad guy, to be the one bearing the brunt of this through an actual election. So um it would have been resolved today, probably. It certainly would have been resolved before election day, but I I think um, you know, give it till Friday and this will this will fix itself. Um but in the meantime, we've got the Department of War spending millions of dollars on to bring every every general and every senior enlisted person to Quantico for the day.

SPEAKER_08: 10:09

Yes, I I'm gonna take a wild guess. I think you have some big feelings on this as well. I mean, actually, I was, you know, when you when you when you threw this into our our mix for our topics, I I literally I did one of these and I went, ooh, because I knew I'm like, Clay's gonna be fired up. Like and and I was genuinely interested uh on your take on all of this. And I knew you would watch the whole thing and and making it so that I didn't have to. So bad, so bad. But yes. Um, so like Clay said, uh, the defense secretary, Pete Heggs says, Clay's favorite guy in the whole wide world, you don't hate him, you just don't love him. I know that you don't, and I want to clarify that every people he doesn't hate him, he doesn't just you can you can you can be critical of people. It's okay, guys. You don't have to go bonkers, right? I mean, you really should be. It's you know, you we don't have to like just follow the leaders like little minions.

SPEAKER_04: 11:04

And I will tell you that that, and I'll talk about exactly what the secretary said, but that right there, what you said is about you know, people not questioning um has been rampant in the last 24 hours. Um, I've taken a bit of a beating across social media. Again, Secretary Heggseth, I I have said from the beginning, I am not a fan of his. I do want him and the department to be successful. That is my my number one hope of all hopes. Um, but I don't think he's the guy to get us there. What has happened, especially in the last 24 hours, is if you disagree with anything that he said at all, you're being lambasted as non-supportive, as you know, you don't know what you're talking about. I mean, it is an absolute attack. You it's it's one of those that the GOP, the Republican conservative side, has turned into the the liberal side when it comes to this. It is 100% support, or you're a traitor, and there's no in-between. So I've taken a bit of a beating. But let's go back to the secretary. So he he got every, I think it was about a 97% attendance rate. There were a few exceptions made, but every general officerslash flag officer, GOFO, as we call them, because admirals are not generals, they're flag officers. But GOFO, if you've seen that, GOFO, um, all of them and their senior enlisted advisors accompanied, and they all went to Quantico and they put them all in a room together. And first the chairman of Joint Chiefs stood up and he alleviated some worries that there was going to be a physical fitness test following the briefing, which there was not. It was actually very funny. Um and then and then the secretary got out there. And there are a number of things that he talked about, and there are a lot of things that he talked about that I support, I'm a fan of. I have even wrote in support of or talked in support of on the show. Um, and and some of the things he hit on, and I took some notes. So physical fitness is a big deal. We all live through the fat general Millie as the representatives as not only the chairman of the joint chiefs, but the chief of staff of the army before that, who was obese. I mean, he was grossly overweight. Um, and Secretary Heggseth said flat out, no more fat generals. Okay, well, it's not, and he did you know extend that to the rest of the services. Um, but he said it's a bad look. And I don't disagree with that. Now, people took that beyond and said, well, you know, could be because he said everyone is gonna have to pass, every service has a height and weight standard. If you're so tall, you can only weigh so much, male or female. You also have to take a physical fitness test twice a year. That has never not been the standard, it just hasn't been enforced, especially in the senior ranks. It's one of those things that it just hasn't happened. And it's not new news. It's always been on the books, it just hasn't been enforced, but he says it's being enforced, which I'm all for. He also said grooming standards, which we have talked about, right? Shave every day. And he said it. We're getting rid of the beards, we're getting rid of the crazy hairstyles, we're getting rid of all that stuff. I'm a huge supporter of that. I've said it many times. Um, he's getting rid of all the DEI crap, he's getting rid of all of the, you know, uh Hispanic Heritage Month, Pacific Islander Heritage Month, Black, you know, African-American Heritage, all those things are going away. Everything is gonna be on merit. That is what he's saying. People will be selected, promoted, um, judged on merit, not on color of their skin, religion, blah, blah, blah. He's getting rid of all the LGBTQ crap. Um, he said it specifically, no dudes in dresses. So that he said those words specifically. So that is all coming off the table. Yeah. Um, he is reinstilling a warrior ethos, focusing on training, spending time on the range, weapon proficiency, all of these things. I I'm a fan of all of that. Right. It doesn't matter. I feel like all of these things are so matter of course. They they should be, but they have fallen off. Now, some of that is well, the warrior ethos to training, that that's there's money that has to be associated with that, right? It costs money to train. Bullets cost money, you know, those kinds of things. So that's an allocation of resources that really is an adjustment, but also they've taken things off the training calendar, required training, like we used to call it sensitivity training, consideration of it's had a bunch of names over the years, consideration of others training and all these other things, right? He's taking a bunch of that crap off the table. We're not doing it anymore, which I'm I'm all for. There was actually a point in time where folks in the army looked at all of the required training and all of the manuals, and literally you couldn't do it in a year. It was impossible. There was actually more required training than there was hours in a year. Oh man. Um Yeah, so so they're clearing a bunch of that up, which is great. But really, what he was focusing on was accountability, right? Um, again, I'm all for that stuff. Here are some of the problems in what he said. He he mentioned things like we're not gonna follow these stupid rules of engagement anymore. Okay. Just to explain to the general public, those rules of engagement are derived from legal documents like the Geneva Convention, the law of land warfare, right? And and I understand that his view comes from his experience, which I've said in the in the past is not great. Um he was a lieutenant and a captain, and his experience truthfully in combat is very, very low. Um and and he has a, I think, a misapplied view of how things are supposed to be. Um when you don't adhere to Americans following what is legally, morally, and ethically correct, um, and you let people act like animals, they become animals. Um, there's a lot of reasons to have those rules of engagement and those limitations on combat. What we can't have is people committing war crimes. Um when you say things like we're not gonna follow these stupid rules of engagement, you you start to, you know, there's you're introducing gray areas into places where there shouldn't be gray areas. He also talked about basic training should be a scary, difficult, challenging experience, which I agree with. Basic training for or boot camp for every service should be that way. But he he did mention that now drill sergeants would be able to swear, believe it or not, they weren't supposed to. That was on the books as a regulation. Okay. But he also said they would be able to lay hands on trainees, which is I I'm not in favor of. And in fact, anybody who's worked in that environment would tell you the same thing. As much as people think full metal jacket is a reality, it is not and hasn't been for decades. In an all-volunteer army, and if you know, you've got kids, I've got kids. Do you want your kid going to basic training and being potentially physically abused?

SPEAKER_05: 17:01

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 17:01

Because that's what this has the potential to turn into if it's not governed. Um so I'm not a fan of that. Um I, you know, he he referenced the army of 1990, right? This is the old standard, which was the desert storm army.

SPEAKER_05: 17:14

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 17:15

Let me give you a little perspective, folks. Pete Heggsmith was 10 in 1990. 10 years old. He doesn't know what the desert storm army looked like. Right.

SPEAKER_08: 17:23

That was my husband's war. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_04: 17:24

That was when he was I was still in high school in 1990, right? I graduated in 91. He was 10 years old. He did not join the military until after 9-11, which is a very, very different army. So he has this romanticized vision of what the army looks like or the military of 1990 was like. I would tell you that Lieutenant Heggsith, if you took him as a lieutenant and you placed him in the army of 1990 with the training that he had and didn't have, he would have been ridiculed, he would have been hazed, he would have been told he was a worthless piece of shit for a couple of reasons, because he didn't meet a lot of the gates that were expected back then. He is an infantry lieutenant. He did not go to airborne school and learn how to jump out of planes, he did not go to ranger school, which was the mark of success for a young infantry officer. And he was a national guardsman. The opportunities that he was given during the war on terror, he would never have been given in the army of 1990. He would have been shoved in a corner and told to shut up until he was talked to. So he's got a false sense of what that army looked like and how good it was and was not. Um, now, as a fighting force was fantastic. I'm not gonna take anything away. We rolled through a fifth largest army in the world in a hundred hours, right? There was no joking around. Um, however, um, you know, he kept hitting on the PT thing, um, physical fitness, right? Physical fitness is important, which it is, right? No doubt about it. And he is a PT guy. We've all seen it. He goes out, he does physical fitness training with the troops, and he's good at it. So therefore, it's important to him. However, I would tell you, in that army of 1990, and it and even into the late middle and late 90s, we had a lot of people who could run really fast and do a lot of PT, who really, really sucked at their job, but they were really good at PT and they were promoted and advanced because on the surface, they're physically fit and they could do all of those things. We had a very skewed army when it came to those things, and he is reintroducing some of that, knowingly or unknowingly, um, where he is saying, you know, physical fitness is the priority as it should be. Um, however, that weighs more than you know, your competency at your job. And I would tell you that Secretary of Defense, now Secretary of War, but Secretary of Defense Pete Heggs, when he took over on day one in the Pentagon, if they gave him a competency test about his job, not a physical fitness test, but a competency test about how the Pentagon worked, how the services worked, how any of that worked, he would have failed miserably. He would have been fired on the very first day. So I I think his his prioritization of quality of work uh is a little askew, especially when it comes to the senior ranks. Um he also talked about there will be no more frivolous complaints across the force. And what he was talking about was um to the inspector general and to others. He he is not the person to determine what a frivolous complaint is. And what he did was he introduced a lot of doubt into a lot of people's heads about what they can and can't or should or shouldn't complain about. Hazing, sexual harassment, um, all kinds of things get filed into the inspector general, among others, and those should not be discouraged. Should they be vetted? Absolutely. Should the frivolous ones be determined and thrown away? Yes. But what you can't say up front is we're not gonna have any more frivolous ones. Nobody knows what that is, exactly.

SPEAKER_05: 20:28

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 20:28

And then the last two things one, he basically told everybody in the room, listen, if you don't agree with the words that I'm saying, you should go ahead and resign right now. He told the entire population of general officers and flag officers and their senior enlisted advisors, if you don't agree with me, get out. That's what you should do. The military is there, the uniform military is there for him and for the president to provide advice because they have no expertise. Him specifically, President Trump at least has four years under his belt as the president, but he has no expertise. And and to say either you agree with me or you quit is very, very immature in who he is. Um I'm not a fan of that. And then the last thing is the idea that this was live streamed to the entirety of the world with no opportunity for discussion, no opportunity for all of those commanders in that room to take in what he said, to ask questions, to ask for clarity, to even provide a buffer between things that he may have said or misspoke before they get to the force. He took all of that out. And in front of the entirety of the military force who was watching that live stream, he basically told all the leadership in that room, you have either been lazy or complicit to allow the military to get to the state that it's in. So he basically cut every single commander and senior enlisted legs out from underneath them publicly.

SPEAKER_01: 21:48

But if the words I'm speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign.

SPEAKER_08: 21:58

Do you think so? Here's just me playing devil's advocate. Do you think that was shooting right from the hip? Do you think that was him? Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 22:05

So was that that was a written because he was walking around the stage. So there was no teleprompter, unless there was something in the back that we couldn't see. But I think that was a memorized, rehearsed, very deliberate speech by him addressed to those people in the room. But also it was uh it was a Kodak moment, it was a photo opportunity, it was all of those things that uh Secretary Heget is known for. Um, we all know he's got his makeup studio, you know, right there next to his office. Um, but um, yes, I none of this was an accident. This was all on purpose and I I think truthfully ill-advised.

SPEAKER_08: 22:42

There was definitely a lot of parts that I I I love about it. The ones that same same exact ones that he loved, really. I I can't wait to see the comments section, Clay.

SPEAKER_04: 22:49

Yeah, I listen, folks, I I do there's there are a lot of things that I agree with, really. I I do, and I and I want him to be successful, but again, he keeps like he mentioned when you know when I was the platoon leader, what you know, the motto, you know, and he was talking about his his lack of experience as if it was a bedrock for great decision making. And I could go into a long discussion about if you look at what he did in his career and you actually know what you're looking at and reading between the lines, that he he was not treated well, and truthfully, his level of experience is terrible. It's less than even if he portrays it to be, because on the surface, people don't know the difference. But those of us that can look at it with a Rosetta Stone in hand and we know what we're looking at, we we know that you know he did he deployed, he did Iraq and Afghanistan, but the jobs he was given were less than great, truthfully.

SPEAKER_08: 23:38

Yeah, uh, you know, and and I think the the issue that comes in with these, you know, irate commenters and everything, you know, we get very, and I'm guilty of it too, on many occasions of getting, you know, that that murka, you know, you guys fire fires up, you know, put me in, coach, you know, you get that mentality and and it is from a place of great love of country and patriotism and all of those things. And and I think people get a little bit lost in their patriot, their their fire to be patriotic and to be good, you know, solid Americans and support someone who's who's giving that same energy that we've been craving so badly from uh you know, from our leadership, uh, particularly somebody who's who's uh Secretary of Defense or Secretary of War. Um, I mean, that is absolutely the guy you want to hear ready to go in, guns blazing, fired up, and and uh in you know, hardcore defense of America, American values and and protection of this country. All of those things are are really the given here of what the sentiment is. But um, and you said it before, kind of get that liberal vibe coming in where you're coming over and attacking someone who simply has a different perspective. And but we're all on the same team here. And and that is one of the things that really deeply disappoints me uh as a conservative, as a Republican, uh, as a human being, simply that, you know, listen, we are actually all on the same side here. We all have the same core belief system, which is America first, we love this country deeply. And I mean, that's that, you know, and then we can we could certainly go into the the whole God country family, all of those things. Those are huge factors in the conservative movement. So we have a very connected core. So when you come at someone who is on the same damn side as you and basically try and rip them to shreds, and like uh like I got, I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Somebody uh sent me a message and and uh saying that they hope that I get a bullet between the eyes or something like that. So that was really sweet. And it was because they misunderstood a video that I made. I was actually um, it was it was satirist mocking the leftist media um by imitating them, and they took it as for real, as I was as if I was really saying that. And that was the message that I got. Um, there were some people that suggested that that was a um really a liberal in disguise, pretending to be, yeah, like listen, I'm not gonna give anybody that much credit to have given it that much thought. Not in that circumstance. I really believe uh that that was somebody on on the right who was way, way over the top. And if you as a conservative, as a Republican are sending messages to your fellow conservatives, actually to anyone, if you are sending, never mind even then. Let me backtrack that a little bit. If you as a conservative, however you want to label yourself, conservative, Republican, blah, blah, blah, Christian, if you're on this side of things and you are making comments and sending messages to anyone with aggressive, violent hate talk, uh, you don't you don't belong over here. You don't belong in this side because that is not who we are. That's not what we're about. So that's my feeling on that. You want to come in the comments and and disagree with me or with Clay on this topic or any topic, go for it. Please do. I'd love to hear your perspective. Um, it helps me grow as a human being. It gives me a different uh viewpoint. Absolutely love that. If you come in here like a POS and, you know, ripping somebody to shreds, whether it's me, Clay, or another commenter in there, you're just gone. You're just out. I don't have time for you. I don't have patience for you. You're not welcome here. And frankly, I don't think you should be welcome in the Conservative Party because you are not representative of who we are and what we're about. We're we're better than that, damn it. And so act like it. So if you're coming in, better have a good argument and you better have something worth saying and you better say it in a way that is respectful and intelligent. And otherwise, I'll ban you. I don't even care. You know, I used to be like the the one that was like, oh, never ban anyone. You can stay, even if you say wrong things. No, I don't care. I don't care about your feelings, don't care if your heart's in the right place. Say it wrong, just go. So that's that's I mean, that's literally all I have to. That's my soapbox for the moment. Yeah, I mean, as far as uh Pete's concerned, yeah, I I see the things that you are saying, and I don't have the the deep understanding that you you have, of course. Um I I will say I kind of have to reiterate what I said in a little bit more gentle tone that, you know, I just I just wish we could all, and I put myself in this too. I wish we could all take that pause and really think about what we're about to say before we say it. And I'm sure there are things in in that speech that he could have said better and differently that would not be so um, I don't know, inflammatory where it didn't need to be. There's points where you need to be, right? The the DEI, absolutely, you know, what is what is it? No dudes and dresses, no dudes and dresses, right?

SPEAKER_04: 28:39

Yeah, all of it. There's again, tons of stuff I agreed with. I really, but there were certain things where I think he he's you know, he's off base. But yeah, it is what it is. I you know, um, I we don't need to belabor the point anymore. Um that was you know, that was pretty big topic, yeah, mostly because it's never happened before. Um that they've never put that many senior leaders in a room together ever. Um, and so you know that was a that was a big undertaking. Oh, by the way, not lost on any of them or any service member that they did it the day before the government shutdown. Yeah, so there was a loyalty check that basically said, hey, he, you know, with saying it without saying it, like tomorrow you're working without a paycheck, and I don't expect any complaints from anybody, otherwise the door's over there. So there is some of that. Uh regardless. I I think that's we've we've covered that. Let's let's move on to the next one.

SPEAKER_08: 29:28

All right. Well, we can kind of stay sort of kind of in the same vein here a little bit-ish.

SPEAKER_04: 29:32

I mean, uh Yeah, this is this is part of it. So there's actually folks understand that as as many rumors as are out there, there are no troops in Portland, Chicago, or Louisiana. They have been requested either by the president or by the governor. In Portland, specifically Oregon, the governor there has already filed a lawsuit to avoid that. What was proposed or requested by the president was 200 members of the Oregon National Guard. Chicago. Same thing, nobody there yet. A hundred members of the Illinois National Guard. The Louisiana governor has requested that his own National Guard be federalized to help him with the overwhelm law enforcement within his state. So, you know, there's different perspectives on this. We've seen the success of what's happening in Washington, D.C.

SPEAKER_07: 30:19

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 30:20

Um, and I will tell you that there has been a massive influx in Chicago of federal law enforcement. They actually ran a massive raid, uh, helicopter, like fast roping out of Blackhawks onto the rooftop of an apartment building controlled by Trenda Agua. Like this was uh ICE. It was, they've got DEA, they got ATF involved now, FBI. Um, but there are hundreds of federal law enforcement agents running around Chicago right now. But there's no federal troops. There's no troops at all. So what do you what do you think? We've covered DC, we've talked in concept about Chicago. What do you where do you see like the the governor of Oregon said he told his staff this is coming and I want a lawsuit in less than 12 hours to be submitted uh once the request is put in. Where do you think this is gonna go?

SPEAKER_08: 31:08

Yeah, I you know, I mean, Trump is Trump is he's won a lot of these cases. He's certainly lost some of them, but um, you know, overall he's he's winning them. And and and I think the the key factor here is, you know, so the the left and and the media, of course, want you to believe that this is the federalization of you know troops against American people and we can't stand for this, and you know, uh big gov is coming in, and they're not coming after Americans, they're coming after violent, illegal aliens who are taking over um, you know, buildings and doing all and the crime and all of the things that are going on. So American citizens are not being targeted. They are targeting the people who are in this country illegally and who are violent, dangerous criminals who are killing American citizens on trains and and parks and in parking lots, and you know, so it's absurd to me that they would propaganda. I mean, it's why is it of course that this is what they're doing, they're propagandizing the the whole thing to an extreme uh to a version of what it is not. And then you have, of course, you have these people that are believing that this is what's happening, and it's simply not. And listen, if you governors of these states, uh if you cannot control and get rid of the rampant crime that is going on in your states, in your cities, you need the government's help. You did this. This is not Trump's fault that you can't manage your city. I, you know, I mean, people have a right, American citizens have a right to live freely and safely in their neighborhoods and in their, you know, towns and in their homes. So, yeah, and enough of the Nazis. I am I am all for it with the obvious caveat that um it should always be constantly monitored that there isn't overreach or um um, you know, overzealousness. You know, do everything within the constraints of what you're legally allowed to do, period. End of story. I that's the way I see it. How about you?

SPEAKER_04: 33:12

Yeah, I think, you know, it it's always the same problem of like when does it end? Right. So how long, how long do these folks stay? That is always a concern. I think there should always be either uh it should never be time-based because you never know if you're gonna meet that time. Um I think it should be condition-based where you say we've reduced crime by X amount or we've brought on X amount of police officers back onto the force, et cetera. Um, but I would tell you that the biggest problem is that it's not that they can't, these mayors or governors can't uh reduce crime. They don't want to. Right. Like, you know, that's it, right on the nose. That's it. They really don't want to. And and we're gonna talk about New York City here in a minute. But you know, Johnson in Chicago, I don't even know the mayor of Portland's name, but like that they they want to release people on their own recognizance. They don't want bail, they they want the jails emptied. They don't, you know, they want all of these people out on the street, they want social workers, they to handle these things, they want, they want to defund the police. They want these situations. And and it's a it's a difference of uh mindset and methodology where, like you said, Americans have a right to be safe. And they believe that the the Americans that they're trying to take care of are the ones who are committing all the crimes. They're not taking into consideration everybody else who's a victim of a crime, whereas President Trump and like the governor of Louisiana is like, I need some help. Like I want to provide safety and security for the residents of the state of Louisiana, and my law enforcement's overwhelmed. We can't do it. I need some assistance, right? And that's what President Trump is trying to impose into Illinois slash Chicago, Oregon slash Portland to provide that safety and security for the citizens, citizens. But you've got governors and mayors who are fighting against it because it's a a different ideological, you know, method to do this. And I don't think we'll ever until they're voted out, you'll never overcome that.

SPEAKER_08: 35:06

No, no, you won't, you won't. I mean, we've got decades uh of this uh you know as proof, and and they still keep getting more Chicago hasn't had a Republican mayor in over a hundred years. So I I don't I don't get it, Clay. I just don't, I don't understand for the life of me. And it's so frustrating. Uh every part of it is so frustrating, and it's it's just so sad for these people who who are essentially trapped in this, that they, you know, that they just have to deal with it and pray every day that they get to see tomorrow because the people running their cities and and their states um refuse to help them. They'd rather help these criminals and delinquency. Don't forget, we have you know, the Jasmine Crockets of the world who say this is their mentality, summed up in a Jasmine Crockett quote, which goes something like, We gotta stop calling criminal, uh we gotta stop calling people who commit crimes criminals.

SPEAKER_07: 35:58

They're not criminals. I do want people to know that just because someone has committed a crime, it doesn't make them a criminal. That that is completely different.

SPEAKER_04: 36:08

Criminal's a mindset, is what she said. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 36:11

Oh, and this is this is what we're up against. Like this is what we're dealing with.

SPEAKER_04: 36:16

And so let's it's let's talk about New York. Um so New York is now uh it's a three-legged race. Um so uh Mayor Adams is uh out. He is he has said he is no longer running, so now we are uh Mam Dani, uh Cuomo and Mr. There's there's more folks. There's a couple of very small candidates with like a 0.001% chance of getting elected. And then and then Mr. Sliwa, who who doesn't have a whole lot of chance of getting elected, um who's the guy who runs around with the Guardian Angels with the red beret on his head. Um so really what we're talking about is Cuomo and Mam Dani. And and I can't believe the city of New York has these as their two options, and the best option is Cuomo. Like that's where we're at right now.

SPEAKER_08: 36:58

This is we're just living in an alternate universe. Yeah, like that is and we're like, oh that there is a day that I'm sitting here going, oh, please let it be Cuomo. Let it be. I'm like, how are those words coming out of my mouth? Well, that's because we we have this guy, Mom Donnie, and I cannot believe it. And he is leading by quite a bit.

SPEAKER_04: 37:22

I mean, his margin is he beat Cuomo in the Democratic primary. Yeah, Cuomo's now really is an independent, yeah. Um and and what everybody's hoping is that as everybody else bows out, you know, they're consolidating votes for Cuomo. And this, if there is an election where it is, not vote for, but vote against right, this is definitely that election.

SPEAKER_08: 37:44

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, if if this happens, if mom Donnie, if he's in, uh you kiss you kiss New York City goodbye. I mean, and it's pretty close to it already, but you kiss it goodbye because it's gone. It's gone, completely gone. And there is absolutely no question of that. That is a fact. And I I to be honest with you, Clay, I think it's gonna happen. I think it's actually gonna happen.

SPEAKER_04: 38:08

I think it is, and I and I think you know it's it is going to be uh a matter of uh year, two years probably before the city collapses on itself, and it will take 10 times that long for it to recover because it's not just going to be people that leave, people are going to leave.

SPEAKER_08: 38:28

People leave, corporations, businesses, absolutely, you will see.

SPEAKER_04: 38:33

And and folks, you will see cultural impacts that you're not even thinking about right now. Broadway will close down because of the levels of crime, because they will target that entire theater district. You won't be able to walk in or walk out, walk out with getting without getting mugged. You will see sports teams will pick up and leave out of the city, right? You will not have events right inside of the city of New York. Um Central Park will become a ghost town. And I know people are thinking they think I'm overreacting to this, but he has said out loud a couple of things. Mom Donnie has. He has said that he wants to empty the prisons out, that prisons are an archaic uh you know um institution and they're irrelevant, and he wants to, he doesn't want anybody to go to jail at all, period. Right. Um he he is a fan of disband the police, he is a fan of um public property becoming all property becoming public. So you will not be able to own anything uh property-wise in the city of New York that he wants to get rid of. This is this isn't even socialism, folks. This is communism with a sprinkling of the Muslim religion because he's also endorsed the antifada, global antifada. And if you don't know what that is, that is authorization and encouragement to kill Jews anywhere on the planet. This is the second largest Jewish populated urban area in the world behind Jerusalem. Or one or the other. But it's number two in the world. So New York is going to get it's gonna kill itself. It is gonna collapse, it's gonna be a black hole, and it is gonna take 20 years to recover from the mess that this guy is about to unleash.

SPEAKER_08: 40:10

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So um, if you have any plans to go, better go now. Enjoy the last of it now. Take lots of pictures because it ain't gonna look like that in a in a couple years. But um, yeah, I I think this is, you know, unless some miracle happens. Do we know? Um Adams has not given a public reason for dropping out. I mean, I'm assuming it's just numbers, it's just a matter of numbers.

SPEAKER_04: 40:32

I don't know I think it's a combination of numbers, but also that attempt to consolidate votes. I I think that somebody probably, you know, there was probably a I hate to say it, but a backdoor phone call probably between him and some others, and they all agreed that Cuomo's probably got the best shots of beating him. Um and he probably agreed to walk away.

SPEAKER_08: 40:50

Right. So his endorsement will be imminent, I'm guessing that's the key is the endorsement.

SPEAKER_04: 40:54

I I my assumption is that he will make a public endorsement and it will be Cuomo as he leaves. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 41:00

Yeah. Well, you know what? I mean, so crazy to be saying this, but they all better get behind him fast. And I there there were some uh big um millionaires, millionaire, I don't really know, talking about putting money uh in the race here too to help uh as well. So if that has happened, I don't know. I hope it does, but oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04: 41:21

But people, the the other thing to watch is who does and does not endorse him at the national level from the Democratic Party. And I'm talking both of them, Cuomo and Mam Dani. Anybody that endorses Mam Dani, he becomes the new gold standard for the Democratic Party. If he is endorsed by anybody, and I'm talking anybody, AOC, Nancy Bros, Chuck Schumer, anybody, Hakeem Jeffries, anybody from the squad, they are endorsing an anti-Semitic Muslim communist to be the mayor of the largest major metro area in our country. Yeah. So that is the problem.

SPEAKER_08: 41:54

Yeah, that he's not hiding any of this. No. Um, and he is this far ahead. Says a whole heck of a lot, and it doesn't say anything good. So um obviously we're gonna keep watching that. That's um disturbing beyond words and terrifying. We will see what happens. Uh oh my goodness, I don't know. I, you know, I gotta say, I am I I have not been to the city in many, many years, and uh largely because of you know how insane it has gone. I have no interest in going. Um having said that, I used to love, at least to love going to the city. It was just we we go, we would only go like four times a year, and that sounds weird. We would go seasonally each season. We would go for a seasonal visit, do all the all the stuff and things. And uh, you know, I I miss feeling comfortable and safe doing that. And um, yeah, sad, sad, sad, sad. Um, let's see. Who would you want to do next? Oh, let's do this one. This is a fun one, right? Since uh our show is on the on the YouTube.

SPEAKER_04: 42:46

24 and a half million? Million.

SPEAKER_08: 42:50

Yeah, million. 24 and a half million dollar settlement with Trump after his 2021 suspension lawsuit. No admission of wrongdoing. Uh 22 million goes to the trust for the national mall. The rest will go to conservative cause. Oops, I just lost my my notes there. Uh conservative cause just literally shut it right down. Good job. Um, conservative causes. Uh, this is the last of big tech's major platforms to settle. Um, so yeah, so if you guys don't know, um, let's see. So each one to some degree or other has admitted, how many years later, uh, to all of the things that we have been saying that they did for years now. And everyone, including them, especially them, have been denying and calling us crazy little tinfoil hat wearing conspiracists. And you were never censored. You were never none of the things that you say happened. And now they're like, oh yeah, no, that totally happened. Yeah, totally did that. Yeah, you got Zuckerberg, flat out said, Yep, the the Biden administration pressured us uh to suppress certain things and um all of that. And you had uh X, or formerly when it was Twitter, uh what was his name? Jack, uh, whatever his name is, um, the former owner or CEO of Twitter said, Yep, we did those things. Yep, that was us. Uh, who else? Um, YouTube, of course, and Google. Google was the other one. So they are all, you know, uh finally coming clean and saying, Yeah, we oops. All the things, all by the way, all the things that you guys said we did and we denied, we totally did it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 44:24

Yeah, and and as indicative of President Trump and what he does, he's not taking any of that money. Right. Right? He could easily$24 million,$24.5 million pocket that, right? Yep. Um, is it owed to him? Sure it is. Right. I mean, think about what he lost. Yeah. But um, yeah, but he's not. It's all being given, donated, uh, etc. And and folks, this is, you know, like you said, Elsa is it is, you know, it's justification, it's confirmation of everything that was suspected that we all knew that yeah, the other side, you know, kept saying, oh no, oh no, you guys are all crazy. It's not crazy. It actually happened, you know, it's it's it's all the things. It's Hunter Bodden's laptop. It's it's all the everything that we knew that they deny, deny, deny is all being confirmed. And it's all being done in court. And folks, I will tell you, you can pretend, oh, they settled, oh they, you know, that's not an admission of guilt. They just didn't want the you can say whatever you want, you'll never convince me. They did it. Now they they've settled out of court, so it is not um, you know, legally, you know, an issue, but they did it.

SPEAKER_08: 45:32

Yep. They did it. That's an admission, as good as an admission. And uh, and you know, and still until the day they die in their last gasp of breath, there will be people that will continue to say it didn't happen, and this is like a shakedown from you know the Trump administration, and they were bullied into like the the admission will still never come from such a large percentage of people, which is just amazing to me. Like, how much more can be proven to you before you actually take those blinders off? And and they can't, let's face it, they can't. They went so hard. They they ostracized family, they let people not let they force people to lose their jobs, uh, to be ostracized from society.

SPEAKER_04: 46:18

Uh these are the same idiot women who are taking Tylenol and putting themselves in comas to prove it's wrong. It's the same stupidity, right? It's just denial based on nothing more than hatred. Um, and and that's you're those people are never going away.

SPEAKER_08: 46:34

They're never going away. They're never going away. They're always going to be the people in the comment sections and in the streets with their you know angry signs screaming how much we're fascists and bigots and racists and this and that and every other thing they can think of as they are screaming slurs at us and threatening our lives. But we're the hateful ones. We're the hateful ones. Like I'm hateful for sitting here having this conversation with you. You're hateful for having this conversation. It's it's a wild, wild.

SPEAKER_04: 47:05

I'm in their eyes, I'm hateful just because I'm a white male.

SPEAKER_08: 47:08

You're a white male.

SPEAKER_04: 47:08

You are just screwed from the getting.

SPEAKER_08: 47:11

Yeah. If they didn't love the devil so much, they'd call you the devil. Oh, well, I guess that I guess that gives a segue, right? Here we go. Let's talk about that. Um, you know, so obviously this is you know incredibly disturbing and upsetting. And and what a surprise. You're not gonna hear about it uh on the mainstream. You won't hear it from the alphabet media. Um, but this is you know, this has been going on for you know an absurd length of time. Um, most people probably are not aware even of the horrors or of what's happening uh around the globe to Christians, the beheadings, the uh you know, murders, the persecution, all of that.

SPEAKER_04: 47:50

I mean give you let me give you two numbers, folks, from Nigeria. Okay? One country in Africa, one two numbers. One is 1,200. 1,200 churches have been burned to the ground, Christian churches burned to the ground. 56,000 is the other number. 56,000 Christians in Nigeria have been killed. This is genocide. That's what this is, okay? And you won't hear it anywhere else. You won't hear, you'll hear them, you know, people continue to complain about Gaza, and you'll hear, you know, but this is this is crisis. This is real live, no kidding crisis. 56,000 Christians, 1,200 churches. Yeah, religious persecution, this is genocide, folks. And you know who actually has given it more attention than anybody else? Bill Maher.

SPEAKER_08: 48:42

Go figure.

SPEAKER_04: 48:43

Yeah, he's an atheist, by the way. Right. And he says, Where are all of these teenage and 20-year-old kids protesting this? Yeah, they're not. You know why? Because it's not on the news, they don't know about it.

SPEAKER_08: 48:54

They're oblivious of it. They're oblivious.

SPEAKER_04: 48:56

Yeah. And then of course we had Michigan.

SPEAKER_08: 48:58

Yeah. Oh, Michigan, awful. Um, yeah, I mean, Michigan is is yet another uh attack on a Christian church and um, you know, just people of faith. And again, you know, the the the biggest thing here is the lack of media attention on it, the lack of care. And, you know, and I'm sure you get it too. Um, you know, I can't tell you there there isn't a post I have made in the past, you know, whatever, a couple years now, um, or a year or so. There isn't a post that I've made where at least two, three people haven't popped in. It could be about anything, by the way. It could be about anything whatsoever. It could be it could be a post that says it's a lovely day outside, and somebody will still jump in and say, not for those children and people in Gaza that are being murdered. What do you have to say about that? Which, you know, the answer to that is, well, what do you have to say about the hundreds, uh uh thousands of um Christians being murdered um, you know, every day for religious uh persecution? How about that? Want to talk about that? And you know, of course, you got crickets from them. They got nothing to say about that, or maybe they'll drop you an F-bomb. But yeah, it's really, oh my goodness, it it's so bad. It's a I'm just looking at my notes here. Nigeria, you talked about Nigeria. So the attacks, over a hundred churches are attacked monthly per recent reporting. Open doors 2025 finds 380 million Christians face high persecution globally. 380 million I can't even. Um in the US, religion-based hate crimes are rising. The data from the DOJ shows shows the increases. Um, and then of course, you have under-reporting is an issue in the poorer nation. So the numbers that we have are probably I wouldn't say that they're just scratching the surface, but they're not even giving the full control. They're not even, yeah, they're not even accurate.

SPEAKER_04: 50:45

Um killing Christians because they're Christian is a hate crime. It is not classified in this country that way. It is it it may be by the police, it is not by the media, right? And that's the problem. What they classified Michigan as is a the here's the things that I heard gun crime, assault rifle, veteran, right? All I never once heard hate crime, right? He attacked a church specifically, right? Right, LDS, Latter-day Saints, Mormon Church. This was a religious hate crime. No one ever said hate crime on any any media outlet I saw. It's a hate crime, people, and nobody classifies it that way because they're Christians, and that's why Christians continue to be persecuted around the world, is because for whatever reason, nobody in the media classifies it as a hate crime, and that's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_08: 51:41

Yeah, yeah. Oh, you nailed it on the head. That is, I mean, that's it in a nutshell. It's a hate, it is hate crimes, it should be addressed as such. And, you know, I I don't understand it, you know, why why Christians in particular uh are treated with such extreme disdain. And and, you know, you take that down to a lower level where it's not we're not high-level murder, persecution, all of those things. Um, but you know, there's there's the insidious low level that I see constantly, and there's so many, just take it, and we're going real low level here. We're going from really big and high to something smaller, but it all adds up. It all adds to that apathy. And that apathy, I think, leads to the hate and all of those things. You know, you look at, I can't tell you how many television shows, because you know, your discernment really starts kicking in pretty hardcore, and you're hearing all the nuances when or the nuance when when you start to hear when you hear it, you hear it. And the television shows and the, you know, the the mocking of Christians, the mocking of uh anyone who believes in God or is, you know, just says that they're a believer, it's automatically, you know, treated like a like a joke, like you're a joke, like your faith is a joke. Um, and then you know, your next level is is going after uh a small mom and pop bakery uh Christians and for choosing to not make a gay wedding cake, I think it was, um, or you know, just declining it, and them getting sued for millions of dollars and losing their business and their livelihood. They ended up, you know, winning, but it took years and just destroyed them forever. And it just escalate, escalate, escalate, and nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nope. I know people care. We know who we're talking about here. Uh yeah, so it it does need to be. I I think at the very least, I think it does need to be it, it's already classified as a hate crime, right? I mean, it's already classified as that, but it needs to be enforced and and pursued as such.

SPEAKER_04: 53:31

And well, I I think the deal it probably is or potentially is at the lowest level. One, it depends on the district attorney, right? Always gotta, you know, they're the ones who drive that. But at the same time, the media has to use those words and they don't.

SPEAKER_07: 53:45

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 53:45

That's the biggest difference. Is that you imagine what this would look like in the United States if, and I'm not even gonna use the whole number, let's just say half. If 600 mosques and 28,000 Muslims were killed in the United States, could you imagine what that would look like in the media?

SPEAKER_07: 54:02

Right, right. Yeah, so true. So true.

SPEAKER_04: 54:05

Flip over what's happening in Nigeria, cut it in half, bring it to the United States.

SPEAKER_08: 54:09

Right, right. Would everybody be quiet about that? Would you be silent? Yeah, it'd be a whole different story. Yeah, you know, and and I think all we can do is exactly what you and I are doing and what you know, I yeah, yeah, pay attention to it, shine a light on it, uh, bring it to people's attention, encourage other people to bring it to other people's attention and to not be quiet about it and you know, be as loud as they are. And and I think um, I think that's I think that's what we have to do, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 54:38

Yep, that's all we can do at this point.

SPEAKER_08: 54:40

At the moment, that's all we can do. Uh shine a light on it and uh and don't let the pressure off of that. Don't, don't, don't let it be swept under the rug.

SPEAKER_04: 54:47

And um until the Christian church or the Vatican start endorsing crusades again, that's about as far as we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_08: 54:53

That's as far. Yeah, that's as far as we're gonna go. We got that. Oh, what's our time? Oh, which one, Clay? What are we doing?

SPEAKER_04: 55:00

Just let's let's do do your girl. I think it's the appropriate thing to do.

SPEAKER_08: 55:04

Oh my goodness. So my girl, my girl Cammy is on the book tour, as uh as I'm sure you all well know. And uh, she has put me back in a job uh momentarily for a hot minute. It's very, very fun. Um, so so here is uh one of her recent appearances.

SPEAKER_06: 55:21

Um, just yeah, here it is to many blessings, and among them at the highest level is having been educated at this university. Yeah, it is a place where everything should be telling you and reinforcing your brilliance, your entitlement, your right to be, and our expectation and anticipation of your leadership.

SPEAKER_08: 55:50

Okay, I can't, I I just I I can't even. So, you know, these are the things she's gone around saying. Of course, the book tour is, you know, somewhat hilarious, uh, entirely predictable. The book itself, no guys, I have not read it yet. I just I I really need to mentally prepare for this, okay? I and I I I think somebody said there's an audiobook of it.

SPEAKER_04: 56:07

So I I for you please tell me right. She didn't narrate it. Please tell me.

SPEAKER_08: 56:12

I believe she did. I believe so. I I can't confirm this yet, but this is how much I love y'all that I will I will do it. I will listen to it. I will speed that thing up and I will listen to it as much as I possibly can because I need to hear this from myself. I need to hear the the uh the word salads in their uh entirety. It it is, you know, it's exactly what you guys think it is. It's a bunch of word salad nonsense. It's her throwing everyone under the bus and pretending not to throw anyone under the bus. Um, probably one of my favorite appearances she did was with uh Rachel Maddow and and uh Rachel, you know, asked the uh pre-submitted question because we know they're all pre-submitted questions. And and still, but here's the thing that got me is a pre-submitted question, clearly, because she's got the same talking points for every single appearance that she's done, same exact ones. And uh the question, you know, she very gently, carefully touched on the whole um Pete booty gag, booty booty do what do you call it? What do we call him? Booty juice, somebody calls him, whatever. Uh Pete, I'm just calling him Pete. Um, why she didn't choose him for um her running mate, right? And um, and the question was, you know, it's because he's gay. Is that the reason? And or that she, you know, came right and said, you know, it's that you said it was because he was gay that you couldn't, you know, have him as your running mate. And uh Kamala does her hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I I you know, I I I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Uh what I said was, you know, and she gives this in total, like totally walk-around way of saying it it wasn't because he was gay, right? It it it's because uh he was gay. Like that was the gist. Like a whole bunch of words, which I just spared you all from, a whole bunch of words to come right back around and basically say, well, it is because he was gay, and also to throw the American people under the bus and say, Well, it's because you guys are all, you know, prejudice or you know, whatever it was like homophobic and all those homophobic. There you go. There's the word.

SPEAKER_04: 58:09

Yeah, yeah, it's not because he was gay, it's because nobody would vote for him because he was gay.

SPEAKER_08: 58:14

Gay, yeah, yes. So that was the highlight of that whole thing. There's plenty more um, you know, roll appearance on the view. It's it's guys, it is everything that we expected it to be. And I I I I humbly thank her for the material. Oh, yes. I've even done a couple few uh uh radio and talk appearances for it. Uh so yeah, that was that was fun. It was like, oh boy, here we go again. Every what was the what's the quote from uh The Godfather every time I try and get out?

SPEAKER_04: 58:46

I can't believe the worst of the Godfather movies. Godfather was terrible, yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 58:51

Yeah, yep. Oh my goodness. All right, guys. That that and on that note.

SPEAKER_04: 58:56

That happy note.

SPEAKER_08: 58:57

On that happy note, we had to. There was some tough ones today. Um, yeah, Clay, you got anything you might close them out with? You want to talk about that thing we were talking about before we went on? Are you not ready to talk about that thing?

SPEAKER_04: 59:06

I absolutely am. So, folks, there's been uh, you know, uh Cross to Bear, right? Second book of the Terry Davis series was released on the 9th of September. And uh the reception has been great. If you haven't read it, keep moving, keep shooting is the first in the series, cross to bear is the second. And on November 11th, on Veterans Day, ladies and gentlemen, book three, titled Rebellous, uh, will be released. So the the Terry Davis series book three, very quick turnaround. Uh, book three will be released on the 11th of November, Veterans Day. So we're looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_08: 59:37

How perfect is that? How time your release dates are so awesome. They're so perfect. I love it. I love it. I can't wait for that to come out. Oh my goodness. All right, guys, you take care of you. We will see you in the comments section. We love you, and we can't wait to chat with you. So have a great rest of your evening. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_03: 59:53

Combat veteran Terry Davis thought he left the fight behind. In Tampa, he uncovered a deadly conspiracy. Now, Now he's back home in Chicago, and war has followed him to his doorstep. Gangs armed like soldiers, a shadowy enemy rising from the past, and one man who refuses to stand down. From the quiet suburbs to the shores of Lake Michigan, Terry Davis will risk everything to protect the people he loves, because that is his cross to bear. Play Novak's explosive new novel, Cross to Bear, book two in the Terry Davis series.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:26

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