From NYC Shooter to International Tsunamis: This Week's Breaking Headlines

From a devastating mass shooting at the NFL headquarters to political corruption revelations, we tackle an unprecedented nine hot topics affecting America today.

• Las Vegas security guard traveled cross-country to commit mass shooting at NFL headquarters, killing four people
• Shocking Cincinnati street beating where only one person called 911 despite hundreds of witnesses
• New evidence suggests Obama administration directed intelligence officials to rewrite assessments before Trump's inauguration 
• Massive 8.7 magnitude earthquake in Japan triggered tsunami warnings from Alaska to California
• Ghislaine Maxwell attempts to negotiate immunity in exchange for names but gets rejected
• President Trump secures major EU trade deal worth billions while overseas
• Rep. Jasmine Crockett tries unsuccessfully to block unflattering Atlantic article about herself
• Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle jeans ad campaign sparks outrage from liberal critics
• WNBA continues embarrassing downward spiral with multiple on-court incidents

Join us in the comments section to share your thoughts on these important stories. As always, keep moving, keep shooting.

Chapters

• 0:00 Show Introduction
• 3:17 Las Vegas Shooter at NFL Headquarters
• 15:30 Cincinnati Street Beating Incident
• 27:10 Pacific Earthquake and Tsunami Warning
• 33:10 Ghislaine Maxwell's Plea Deal Attempt
• 39:55 Obamagate and Intelligence Manipulation
• 48:50 Trump's International Trade Deals
• 50:20 Rep. Crockett's Media Meltdown
• 54:40 Sydney Sweeney Jeans Ad Controversy
• 58:10 WNBA's Embarrassing Wig Incident

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

It's the Elsa Kirk Show, with Clay Novak serving up trending news and conservative views Brought to you by the Elsa Kirk Collection and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:20

Well, well, well. Another week, another big, big batch of topics. I think we're outdoing ourselves this week and there's still so many more. We could have thrown in there, right so much stuff. But as usual, clay, you picked some really, really good ones. How are you?

Speaker 3: 0:34

I'm good. I have to apologize to everybody for last week. So last week Elsa was in Florida awaiting grandbaby number four. I was going to take the show on my own. I was going to take the show on my own, I was sick as a dog and I actually did what I think. I said 46 minutes and then all of a sudden, the show locked up, Our website locked up and without Elsa, I am technologically helpless and I accidentally erased the entire show and I was so tired and sick I was like I can't do this again. So I apologize to everybody. We didn't have a show last week 100% my fault.

Speaker 2: 1:07

Technology is great until it isn't right, like until it just screws us over, and it loves to do that. So, yeah, yes, no worries.

Speaker 3: 1:16

I feel worse for you that you, you pushed through, you powered through it, and then that that had to be just one of those like pick up the, the laptop and throw it moments yeah, it was a, uh, it was a break, something important kind of moment and I did not. But I also was like I can't try this again. So I apologize 100 my fumbled football show. But we're making up for it, because I think, if I counted right, I think we are at an all-time high, potentially nine.

Speaker 2: 1:46

I think it's nine. Yeah, I'm looking right now Nine, nine topics, so we are ready.

Speaker 3: 1:51

We don't have time to waste.

Speaker 2: 1:53

Yeah no, no, kidding, Actually you know what, Clay, let's, we're going to jump right into it. I don't even have, I don't even have our fun little little segue intro thing. So I suck. I'm still guys, I'm still out of sorts. I'll give you the quick lowdown. I'm going to take up a few seconds.

Speaker 2: 2:10

I went on, as you know, to await grandbaby number four. I got there on Thursday. Her due date was Friday. Friday came and went as well as the rest of the week and plus a few more days I left, came home this past Saturday. Baby number four arrived this past Monday and I was not there for it.

Speaker 2: 2:31

So you can all imagine what a not happy camper I am. But I am ecstatic and thrilled and we're all so blessed. She is healthy, beautiful, perfect, wonderful and all is well. So that's the most important thing and I'm counting down the days until I get there again. So that's that. So that is my big update. Thank you, guys, all in advance for all of your prayers and well wishes. Clay, as you can agree, we have like the best support system here on our, on our show, and everybody's always so, so kind and gracious and and encouraging and all of that stuff. So thank you again, Thank you in advance. But yeah, on to the many, many topics. So we got to start. It was a toss up, but I'm going with this one. Clay, this is our starting point, right?

Speaker 3: 3:17

Yeah, so this happened, you know what's? Two days ago. So Shane Devon Tamura drove a Las Vegas resident security guard possessor of a concealed carry permit in Nevada, slash Las Vegas, the city, decided to drive across country in his personal vehicle with a couple of weapons, including an AR rifle. Drove all the way to New York City and if you've seen like they've tracked his movement through tollbooths and those kinds of things, I'm fairly confident that he drove straight through or fairly close from Las Vegas to New York. Drove all the way into the city, double parked his BMW, got out with his rifle and walked into an office building which houses, among other things, the NFL headquarters, and decided to start shooting people.

Speaker 2: 4:12

Yeah, yeah, so OK. So I think there's probably still some conflicting messages on you. Know what the motive was, what all those things are. The latest that I've heard is that they believe he was targeting someone specifically within the NFL headquarters. I honestly don't know the accuracy of that. I think it's probably going to be a little bit before we get the full scope of the picture. There was some screenshots of a note of sorts in his pocket that they extracted that talked about having I forget what it's called I'm drawing up like I'm just called but a brain injury typical from sports, from football specifically. So there's no record. I don't think of him playing football Again, don't know. Guys, I am catching up on everything. I was in toddler land for a couple of weeks. I'm like two steps behind on everything. So bear with me, and Clay is going to do a lot of correcting on me today, I think.

Speaker 3: 5:12

So what you're talking about? What you're talking about is CTE, thank you. And CTE is a result of numerous concussions, and the speculation is that this young man had a beef with the NFL because he was a high school football player, diagnosed himself, I think, with CTE, because you can't be diagnosed with CTE until after you're dead and after they cut your brain open.

Speaker 2: 5:40

And that was part of his request right for them to study his brain in this note.

Speaker 3: 5:44

I caught a piece of that but it was, yes, this argument about CTE. And listen, folks, I've mentioned this, probably more than once, so I'm about a dozen concussions in my life, everything, yeah, everything, from being full contact boy to lifelong soccer player, to jumping out of planes for 10 years to close proximity high explosives, you know, while deployed, for 10 years, to close proximity, high explosives, you know, while deployed. So I picked up a number in that that you know, through medical exams, a number of high level medical exams, the best number they can guess is 12. Cte, you know, scares the crap out of me.

Speaker 3: 6:15

And the thing about CTE it's been diagnosed post-mortem in a number of former NFL players is there's this propensity for violence, you know, as you know, and a number of these have ended up being murder-suicide. They do the post-mortem, you know the autopsy and they find out CTE. You know violent acts, suicide by cop and some other things. So you know this is a concern. I would tell you that while this young man, you know, had some issue with the NFL because he thinks this is football related or he self-diagnosed um, I would not go that far. Uh one, you know the diagnosis. Obviously we can't, we won't know until they, until they do that autopsy, and they may not even release that to the public. But also this this is a matter of playing football. This isn't the NFL's fault, it's not. You know that would be like me. You know I chose to play soccer even up until a couple of years ago. You know all the years I spent in the Army, all the years I still jump out of planes, folks, I still do right Me. Blaming anybody for the TBIs that I have is great, it's ludicrous. But that begs the question anybody who drives from Las Vegas to New York with the intent of causing harm, he clearly had some mental issues. Now, are they a result of traumatic brain injury and potentially CTE? We won't know until that autopsy is done.

Speaker 3: 7:37

Unfortunately, you know, four people were killed beyond himself. He did kill himself on the 33rd floor, shot himself in the chest, but there were four people that were killed, including an off-duty police officer acting as a security guard. Diriduk Islam, I think, was the gentleman's name, the officer's name, which is obviously not that anybody you know won more value than any of the rest. There were four people killed. One of them happened to be an off duty police officer. So you know, of course, the immediate. There were some fumbles by CNN. I don't know if you saw this or not.

Speaker 2: 8:12

Oh, I saw it and have it, let's take a look.

Speaker 4: 8:15

They do not know who he is. They know he is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses.

Speaker 2: 8:29

He appears to have a mustache and that picture has been distributed to every police officer in New York City. Now that is their screenshot and everything. And to sit there and say that and to be not corrected by the other person, I mean, come on now, just come on, enough already. Just take this, take them off of the air. Cnn has to go. It's. It is beyond absurd Now that took the cake for absurdity and they've done so much and said so much. That is beyond the pale, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3: 9:00

It's, you know, possibly white is also, possibly black is also, possibly Asian, right, possibly Hispanic is possibly a lot of things. That obviously is, you know, stick both feet in your mouth at the same time, kind of a statement, and you're right. And that CNN, you know, hosts let it pass. And that is part of the narrative that is always attempted to be driven into these things before anyone knows anything. Always, uh, attempted to be driven into these things before anyone knows anything. Um, and you know, and then of course, that fell apart. No redaction, no apology that I've seen from cnn about that. Um, you know. And then you've got, of course, the uh.

Speaker 3: 9:36

Mayor adams, you know, is uh from new york, is, you know, touting anti-gun laws, anti-2 stuff? You're getting that from a lot of people. Listen, this guy drove from across the country. This has nothing to do with gun laws. You can ban those rifles in 49 states. If somebody decides that they're going to break the law and get one, they're going to get one.

Speaker 3: 9:57

It is what it is argue, and I would argue to the contrary, in that had someone besides a security guard been in there, been in the area, been armed, that this may not have lasted as long as it did. You could argue that point as well. It's all speculation. It's also crappy timing. I know everyone wants to immediately politicize these things, but we have got to, in the order of humanity, get beyond that right, deal with the cause of this, in this case, probably a mental health issue or a physiological issue. But you've got four dead people five if you include the shooter and of course, we immediately go to politicize what happened, as opposed to dealing with the root cause of this and really in the immediate effect and aftermath on the four families that are affected and even the fifth family, including the shooter, of the people that died on the scene. So we need to grow up on these things, including the network, including politicians. Take a breath, you know. Do some analysis, figure out what happened, politicize it after we figure out what really happened, right.

Speaker 2: 11:10

And that goes for both sides, right, because both sides. You have one side automatically, instantaneously saying must be a republican, I bet he's one of those, mac the people. And the other side is saying, no doubt it's a liberal, you know, crazy liberal, and you know either one of those things could be true, but we don't know so. So how about wait to find out, find out what the motive is, find out what's going on? You know, and, like you said, the clearest conclusion to come from this is, in any incident like this is that this is a person like this is the common denominator. This is a person suffering from mental illness. Nobody in their right mind will do something like this and you can't even call this like a fit of rage. You know it's a, you know they have those rage crimes. You don't, you don't, you can't. You physically, mentally, cannot sustain rage for that length of time. So it's not. You know it's it was. I even know if you can call it premeditated, if this is somebody who's not in their right mind. I mean, you know there's some premeditation, but it's not of right mind. So that's the common denominator every single time. And I know somebody on our side of things will say no, the common denominator is that they're always liberals. You know, that's true in a lot of cases, not all the cases. And to Clay's point, what does it even matter? Like what does it even matter?

Speaker 2: 12:20

At this point, get to the core issue, which is not guns, it is mental illness and our handling of it and, and I think really, the people who instigate and fuel not necessarily in this specific case, this seems like, you know, kind of a really just a freak thing, really. You know, this wasn't politically motivated, he wasn't going after a political figure or someone for their own political affiliations. You know, this was simply and I hate to make it so, you know, simple, but to say that this was somebody who was suffering with some type of psychotic break and this is what happened from it. So what can we do? How can we improve the way we handle mental illness? Because we know that the institutions are overrun, they're just filled to capacity.

Speaker 2: 13:14

The whole system itself is slow. There's, no, there's and we've talked about this before, we talked about this with parents of children who have done these things and you know, and everybody's so quick to attack the parents and say, well, they, you know they must have been being really bad parents. They could very easily and very probably be parents who have tried everything to get their adults in these cases often children the care that they need, and their hands are tied for all the reasons we talked about last time. You made so many good points with that in that last conversation. So you know, echoing Clay again, stop with all the extra, the noise. Just stop with all the stupid noise that always comes around. All of this. Get to the root. Do what we can do feasibly and again, you're never gonna be able to eliminate this completely. This is a sad fact of life, you know.

Speaker 3: 14:07

Yeah, and it's, you know, it's a statement on where we are as the, you know, as the, not just as a nation, but as the humanity as it stands right now. Is this, you know, acceptable level of violence across every, you know, medium that we look at, whether it's social media, whether it's movies and television, whether it's you know, and listen, I'm a guy who writes this stuff. Right, I write action fiction and, and you know so, you know, I could, I could lay blame or lay responsibility on even what I produces as an author, but we collectively need to take a look at really where, where we're at and what is acceptable in public, right, you know, I mean, this is the violence as a solution. Solver is not it, you know, but unfortunately that's where we are right now and you know, this kind of bleeds into our second you know subject that we're going to hit tonight, and this is this, you know issue in Cincinnati. And, folks, if you haven't seen this, um, and if you have a squeamish stomach, um, this is probably not something that you really want to watch because it is, it's, it's tough to take. Um, it's probably I, I, one of my, you know, I always measure things against if you've ever seen the movie American history X, which is one of the most violent. There's a B, a street beating scene in that, that movie. That is like it's upsetting, you know, as a guy who you know was surrounded by violence as an adult, um, to see that movie, this, this beating is not quite that bad, but it is really, really rough to handle.

Speaker 3: 15:34

So, um, a few days ago in Cincinnati, uh, you know, outside of a, uh, a number of businesses, but specifically a club named, uh, I think it's big L, small O, big V, small E, uh, fairly new club in Cincinnati, uh, in and, amongst a couple of things, there's a jazz fest going on. There was a big three on three soccer tournament going on. There was, um a Cincinnati Reds game that night. There's a lot of people on the street late at night in Cincinnati, um, but outside of this club, on the street, um, a man was beaten right. So he was attacked, seemingly, from what we know right now based on the video unprovoked, and then a couple of folks, specifically a woman, tried to step in and protect him. She also got attacked, got knocked unconscious, got hit, hit the ground. Her head hit the pavement. She was out like a light, unconscious, got hit, hit the ground, her head hit the pavement. She was out like a light. People continued to jump in and beat this guy on the ground.

Speaker 3: 16:27

More, there were approximately estimate of about a hundred people observed this, whether it was on their, you know, walking by, passing by or driving by. There was one 9-1-1 call, folks, one, um, and, and the only person who stepped in was this woman and she got knocked out as well. Yeah, and so the Cincinnati police responded to the one nine, one, one call which you know, by all accounts, their response time was within reason to the single yeah, not the other ninety nine people who stood by and either filmed it or didn't do anything Right. And then there's been five, five, uh, people charged, three arrested, um. The victims have not been named. Have you seen names?

Speaker 2: 17:11

Not that I'm looking for them, but I have not, yeah, no, I have not yet. Um, I yeah, I've seen the videos too, against my better judgment. Uh, absolutely awful it it's. It is so sickening. You feel just a wave of sickness in the pit of your stomach and your heart too. How are we behaving like this in society? What mentality, what kind of person people can stand around? And obviously the participants are the, you know, I don't know. Are they the worst? The people watching are the worst. The people cheering it on and recording it, those are the monsters I feel.

Speaker 2: 17:54

Like you know, we would have to like sit and really wrap our brains around it, like there has to be some type of law or something put into effect that makes that a crime of some sort. Like you know, if you have to be, you have to be a mandated reporter for abuse, right? If somebody's abusing a child and you work in a certain field, you know whether you're a teacher, doctor, you know all of these different fields, and that makes you a mandated reporter. So if you suspect abuse, you are required by law to call it in. Basically, so why can't we come up with something like that If you are recording a crime and not doing anything about it, and I'm sure there's all kinds of things that you can counter this with.

Speaker 2: 18:37

But just as a general statement right now, why not? Why not? That should be illegal to do? You should face criminal charges. That if you do nothing and I'm not saying that you have to jump in like that woman did You'd like to think that people would do that, as we have witnessed this time and many other times. They don't. In this day and age is record it and posted to social media and get the, get the likes and the follows and the views on it and, you know, give commentary throughout, which is even more disgusting. But yeah, I don't know, am I, am I wrong, clay? I mean, I feel like there really should be criminal charges for anyone who does that.

Speaker 3: 19:12

Yeah, I think it would be probably very tough to prove, but I think it's that should be the goal. I don't disagree with you. I think you know we would want a society that would step in somehow. You know, I think I even saw you on social media. I think you or somebody asked you or you responded to maybe a post about would you step in and help a law enforcement officer in this address, which I know obviously you would, because you know law enforcement specifically for you, your husband, et cetera. But we as a society should expect that right.

Speaker 3: 19:41

I can tell you personally that I have pulled over for a number of accidents along the way, like before first responders are there. I found cars in ditches. I found all kinds of things like that's what? And oh, by the way, watch people drive by, right, and I get it. Some people are not capable, right? Not everybody can handle the sight of blood. Not everybody can get involved physically to deter something like this from happening. Everybody has a cell phone, yeah, right. So, yeah, I think probably the place to start is if you film something like this and post it. I think you should be, you know, like if you're not walking up to the police with that film footage and going, hey, listen, I prosecute all these people like that. But if you're like you said, who's commenting on it, posting it on social media for clicks and likes, but not doing anything but filming it, yeah, I think you should be held accountable in some way, shape or form. I think that's a human being. However, now you start getting into the freedom you know free will freedom, choice freedom, blah, blah, blah. Know there's a, there's a fine line. I think that we need to find in there, but we should expect more from fellow americans on things like this.

Speaker 3: 20:49

Um, there have been three people arrested. One of these guys, my understanding is, was out on bond when this happened. So and a you know multiple charges. Uh kind of offense like he was released was, you know his bond was posted at four,000. He paid 400, the normal 10% and he walked away on some pretty significant charges and then was out. And you know it was a part of this. It was one of the people, part of it, so that's a problem. Um, and I know that there's people getting involved. The the uh, you know the fraternal order of police took this film footage, posted it and said this is your justice system, because they were talking about the guy who was involved. You've got mayors, you've got the vice president, who is from Ohio.

Speaker 2: 21:30

Yeah, we actually. We have that. He had some strong words for a man who sucker punched a middle aged woman.

Speaker 1: 21:36

That person ought to go to jail for a very long time.

Speaker 3: 21:39

And frankly, he's lucky there weren't some better people around because they would handle it yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:45

Yep, he had some strong words for it.

Speaker 2: 21:47

He had a little bit more to say, mad enough to swear about it too, which, rightly so, made me want to swear. Yeah, you know there's so many factors here in both of these cases. You know it is a societal breakdown. Obviously desensitized from the horrors of things like that, you know the reality of it and that's mental illness in itself, like what is going on in your brain that you can look at a man being a woman more than anything, being beaten and kicked to the ground and left for dead. Essentially, I think there was at one point someone was grabbing her arm and yanking her. You know she's unconscious, she is out, and they're just grabbing her and yanking at her and then the man was just getting kicked and kicked and kicked and punched and beat and the whole thing, and no one is jumping in to stop. This Like this is such a a grotesque representation of what we've become as the society and things have to change and they have to be really harsh and drastic, you know, actually a stiffer punishment for everything.

Speaker 3: 22:59

Backtrack it a little bit and maybe look at a good Samaritan law in the, because I think a lot of people don't act because we become such a litigious society that if, like, say, the guy's on the ground and he's getting the crap kicked out of him, right, and Clay Novak's standing on the street and I roll over there and close fist and I jack the dude that's beating him up right Now, the police are going to come at some point, I'm probably going to be arrested, right.

Speaker 3: 23:27

If that film footage comes and it says hey, look, all he was doing was protecting this guy, that should be like a catch and release no bond, no charge. You know if the police can look at it and say, clearly, you stepped in to protect that guy or that lady on the ground. Good for you, have a nice night, go about your way. We'll probably call you for a witness statement. Like that, I think, would probably be more encouraging to for people to act, you know, if they know the level of protection in the, in the system. But I think a lot of people have that hesitation of well, if I step in, one, you're risking yourself, but two, you might get arrested, you might end up in the holding cell. You might be the one.

Speaker 2: 24:03

Oh yeah, look at Daniel Penny Talk about, you know, discouragement for doing the right thing, you know. I mean that is you know the ultimate discouragement for doing the right thing. And I know we just had a another big incident Gentlemen stepped in and stopped a major, worse calamity at the grocery store yeah, walmart, um, and you know he did step in, he did stop. Uh, stop this guy from more damage.

Speaker 3: 24:35

You know right, drew his gun, held the guy locked till the police showed up and they got an arrest a marine as well.

Speaker 2: 24:42

He was a marine yeah, I love those marines.

Speaker 2: 24:45

You know I love them. Yeah, so, but yes, but these are, these are the exceptions now, not the rule. You know, and for all of the reasons that you said, clay, that you know people are afraid of the repercussions and, yeah, I think that, I think you're right, I think that's a great place to start. You know, with everybody with their cell phones now and their cameras out for every single incident, it'll be easy enough to prove. So you know, and all the surveillance cameras that are always around. So you know you can prove what you were doing there.

Speaker 2: 25:15

But man, oh man, that was. That was disheartening, to say the least. It was. It was horrifying more than anything, but really disheartening to to see that kind of behavior and also to the. Who was she? The police chief?

Speaker 2: 25:31

A couple of things bothered me, in addition to the obvious One that it kept getting referred to as being a fight. You know the mainstream media. That was not a fight, that was a beating, that was an attack, that was a mob attacking one person. Well, two people technically started off with one person. Obviously that was not a fight, that was a vicious, violent mob assault is what it was. So let's not get that twisted.

Speaker 2: 25:59

And then the other thing I think the police chief there was making kind of more of a big deal about the fact that people didn't call and, you know, weren't calling the police in and everything. She said something else man, I can't remember what she said. Something else that was kind of eyebrow raising. If I find it, I'm going to put it up in here, but yeah, so her response and reaction was very critical of the people around, but not critical of the people doing the attacking. You know, and and it's that you know, politically correct mind mindset, you know they don't want to get the, get these, a certain group of people, angry and to cause more problems when you know the reality is is you should be coming down hard on on the violence, on the perpetrators of the violence, and you know, yes, the bystanders, yeah, that's a problem. You definitely should be more than chastised for your lack of action there. But yeah, it's kind of deflecting when it's coming from them. I feel like yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2: 26:54

Mm-hmm, but so we'll see. We'll see what happens with that. If you know, I don't know I would like to see the charges be as extreme and severe as they possibly can be. I personally would throw an attempted murder there because you're still going at him when he's clearly down. This isn't a fight, you know. This is way more than that. But yeah, other crazy stuff in the world, Different but still crazy. Wow, 8.7 or 8.8. I mean, I guess you know the point doesn't matter so much when you're up that high, but that was wild and scary because you know, obviously the earthquake itself, but the resulting tsunami, you know, or tsunamis, Talk about scary stuff, Holy cow, yeah.

Speaker 3: 27:39

So my understanding is it was like you said. I've seen both 8.7 and 8.8, but the highest reported earthquake is since they've started. They have record and then, yes, like you said, the tsunamis that followed. I think the good part is is that they gave everybody as much advanced warning as possible, and it literally in the United States. They kicked it from Alaska all the way down the coast to Southern California and then obviously Hawaiian Islands, always, you know, in the middle of this. So everybody got a lot of warning. I know there were very specific warnings put out get all of the boats out of all of the harbors in the Hawaiian Islands specifically. I actually watched a very quick animation of all of the tracking that they did to watch all of these boats get out of all of these harbors all over the place, because they just turn into debris right, and you know they were talking. Estimates were between three and twelve additional feet on top of tidal waves. So you know if this hit at high tide right in some of the places in hawaii you're talking 20 footers and then plus another 12 feet right, 32 foot waves. Um, but there was plenty of warning given out. Now that what I've said this a million times, mother nature, father time, undefeated. Right, um, within a half an hour of this, you know of our recording which, again, we started on Wednesday at two, 30 Eastern time. Um, so, within the 30 minutes before that, um it, the waves were making landfall.

Speaker 3: 29:06

Hawaii and California. Um, so we haven't. So we haven't, we don't know the extent of any damage at this point, but in preparation on the, you know, in the hawaiian islands there's two main roads, because otherwise, if you've never been to hawaii, you know, like I think, it's highway, is it one? Or the 101, whatever it is, that drives around the island. Right, it's funniest interstate in the interstate system because it doesn't interstate to anything. Yeah, it doesn't interstate, but there were two roads that go over the mountains to get to the other side, to get to higher ground, to get away from the coast. One of them is Koli Koli Pass, which is owned by the Department of Defense, I think it's joint based both Army and Navy, and that was opened up and and the military has done this many times in the past, or bad weather, for volcano evacuation, for all of those kinds of things, fires and whatever they have opened Coley Coley pass to civilian traffic and basically said hey, listen, get on here, don't divert, drive to the other side and then get off over there. Fine, no big deal.

Speaker 3: 30:06

Um, but also there was a private road that it took a number of hours to be opened up. Are you trying to private road owned by one each? Oprah Winfrey Interesting? Yeah, spawned until an hours later with a bunch of public pressure coming her way to open her private road to gain the same type of access as Coley Coley Pass. Now, she did open it, or whoever's responsible. I don't think she lives there, but it's property she owns. Whoever is responsible finally opened the road. Probably should have been done hours earlier, with or without her permission, just as, again, a humanitarian kind of thing.

Speaker 3: 30:45

But she is all about being a good humanitarian, so you know yeah, um, so thankfully we won't know folks like, by the time this airs, we will know the extent of the damage, uh, but right now, as we record, we have no idea how small or large this is, as it impacts the Hawaiian islands and the coast of California.

Speaker 2: 31:06

Yeah, praying for them. I hope that you know the I'm sorry you did say about the tide, Was it or is it, Don't know?

Speaker 3: 31:16

Okay, If it's high or low tide. What they were saying was plus 3 to 12 feet on whatever tidal waves that they have.

Speaker 2: 31:25

Got it Okay.

Speaker 3: 31:27

Like I said, you get some 20-footers. You know 20 plus footers on the North Shore of Hawaii. Add 32, you know, add 12 feet to that, now you're in the 32 to 35 foot range. And now you're talking a lot of significant destruction potential.

Speaker 2: 31:39

So yeah, yeah, it's scary. I saw some of the you know overall, enough talk. The ticky-tocky Late last night saw some of the video and images of people evacuating different areas I think probably California, I think it was and you know you look at that and it's so overwhelming because it's just bumper-to-bumper cars and nobody's moving and you're not going anywhere. So that sense of panic has to be just awful. And especially, you always think of or at least I always think of, you know, if they have small children and just all of those things and your whole life. You know, you don't know if, when you drive away, if you're ever going to see your, your, your entire life's belongings ever again.

Speaker 2: 32:18

And I know, you know, we all know the most important thing is your, your life and your safety and your loved ones and everything. But it doesn't change the fact that know all your memories and all of your things that could be just gone in you know seconds. So very, very scary stuff. We'll, um, you know we'll be like the rest of you keeping an eye on, um, what happens next there as far as damage and and hope that it's, uh, you know, as minimal as it possibly can be right yeah, yeah, that's all we can do right now, because, again, mother nature, mother nature yeah, yeah, you can't fight her.

Speaker 2: 32:48

She's gonna do what she's gonna do and we're just gonna have to deal with it as best we can. But, uh, what do we got next? We got a couple choices we can go with. Next, you have a preference? No, we're so easy going this, this, uh yeah I know, yeah, I know, let's not.

Speaker 2: 33:02

Let's just, let's just go. I'll go right in the order that I have them listed here. Why not, right, um? So the latest on this is uh, ghislaine Maxwell. Um was trying to get herself a sweetheart deal here. Uh, offering up.

Speaker 2: 33:16

Yeah, jenna's generous of her man. If she's not, if she's not one of the most hated women on the planet, she damn well should be, she really should. She is such a vile human and I get she's doing, of course she's doing what she's doing. You know, like, oh, you want me to talk? You know it's exactly what every single criminal would say, and do you know? And I get that. But so, yeah, so she offered to talk. She'll tell you, I'll spill it. She told him I'll spill the beans if you either give me clemency, immunity, this, that and the other. She's just throwing them all out there, her lawyer throwing them all out there, and, as of right now, that's all been declined.

Speaker 2: 33:54

They said that's not going to happen. Thankfully, they're saying that and I would hope that they stick to that, because if you're giving me a choice, honestly, if you're giving me a choice and I could be wrong here of giving her a break break. Essentially for spilling the names, um and letting that woman walk, um, I have a problem with that. She should be in prison for life. She should never see the light of day. Um, but I get it. I mean I, I, I get the the. The contrast to that which is like you could get all of the names. You know, you could get all of these people.

Speaker 3: 34:27

I would drink.

Speaker 3: 34:28

I personally would drink, yeah so she's supposed to thank her so much well, she's supposed to testify on august 11th to a house oversight committee and that's who she made the offer her lawyer made the offer to. Supposedly she's been model citizen, she's been, you know, she has uh, interviewed already with department of justice and then she's got this um house oversight committee. Uh, you know, testimony that's supposed to happen on August 11th and you're right, she offered everything she asked, or she asked for everything. And so she asked for immunity and clemency and all of that stuff. And you know the response from the House committee was no. And so you know she's going to testify as it stands right now and I can almost promise you they're going to bring her into the house. She's going to plead the Fifth Amendment and they're going to get nothing more than what they have now and then, and she will spend the rest of her life in jail even though she's a prisoner, she's acting as a model prisoner and she's trying to get parole.

Speaker 3: 35:21

She won't. I personally would cut a deal with her that would be somewhere along the lines of if, if, willing, you know, if her lawyer's willing a, you know, minimum, medium security, no chance of parole, but a decent life for the exchange of everything that she knows and the name that she knows. Because what it in the back of my head. What bothers me is why and it may be as simple as your reasoning why is the house oversight committee not entertaining deal with her? Why are they saying no? Who are they worried about what's? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4: 36:04

Like there's more people of importance to be exposed and you know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 36:06

Like there's potential for people of importance to be exposed and, you know, is this House of Representatives Committee complicit in that by not striking a deal with her? And that's kind of where I have a little bit of you know. You know me in my spidey senses, like there's something not right about this, but we do have one last kind of potential is that this has been thrown at the Supreme Court and so when we come back into session in September.

Speaker 3: 36:33

They are going to have the nine justices, are going to have a private discussion about entertaining the. You know her testimony and the entire case. So we'll have to see what comes out of that. But I disagree with you.

Speaker 2: 36:45

I just don't want to see her walking away.

Speaker 3: 36:53

I'm with you on that, but I disagree with you. I just don't want to see her walking away. I'm with you on that, but I think there's so much more information out there that we don't know and won't know that I would be willing to give her some respite in exchange for good information. But you just don't know what she's going to tell you until she tells you Right, like a great deal, and she goes. I don't know, jack, you know, and then, you're screwed.

Speaker 2: 37:09

Yeah, she could easily say well, I'll tell you. Sure, I'll tell you everything that I know. Unfortunately, I just don't know anything. Sorry, guys, thank you Bye. Yeah, you know, I, I, I don't know, I just, yes, getting those names is important.

Speaker 2: 37:25

But you know, here's the flip side for me with that, which is I feel like they know already. So what do they need her for? I feel like all of this information already exists and is in their grasp, so do they just need her to confirm it because she is a firsthand participant? What do you really even need her? It so is she bluffing, does she? Why does she matter that much? Like, is this just a show for all of us to make it look like you know? No, we're, you know, we're going to try our damnedest to get that information for you. But you I mean my understanding is, and I know there's no list, there are files that it's just semantics, right, like list file, call it. Whatever the hell you want to call it, you have it. I believe that you have all of the damning information that you need. So I don't really know why we're, you know, hyper focusing on her again, to be honest.

Speaker 3: 38:23

That's a valid question.

Speaker 3: 38:24

I mean it's a valid question of if we have testimony and we have the testimony of the victims, right, those young ladies who were trafficked and we have the testimony of the victims, right, those young ladies who were trafficked. We care why, but that tells me that somebody thinks that there is more there, or there's they. They do need more, or assume that she knows more than what she's told. So, game of cat and mouse, and I think there's, there's some gambling that needs to be done. You know across the board, and it's just a matter of how much are you willing to gamble. And, and you know across the board, and it's just a matter of how much are you willing to gamble.

Speaker 3: 38:55

And you know, I think you're more. You know, bird in hand. We got her, we're probably not going to know anymore, and let's just see where she's at. And I think I'm in the mindset of let's take a little bit more risk and see if there's more out there, right, we'll see what happens. I do think that ultimately, this is going to go to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court to go. We're not touching it and I think they're going to kick it back down to a lower level court and she just may rot in prison forever and we may have something else.

Speaker 2: 39:18

Yeah, yeah, I tend to think that's what. What's going to happen, I mean, if she gets released I can't imagine anyone being OK with that to that is, if she gives up enough names, credit, you know, if she gives credible, useful information to lock some other major players up in this whole disgusting uh thing. You know, I I don't know, we will see. We're gonna keep watching it. We'll keep watching and keep recording on it as uh, as stuff comes up, uh, next in, like, we are doing good, we're plowing through these. We're doing good. I think we're going to do this. I think so. Yeah, right, let's talk about Obamagate. So we all know what's going on here. Right, we all know Tulsa Gabbard came out swinging, basically with treason allegations.

Speaker 2: 40:06

She accused the Obama administration of using fabricated, fabricated intelligence in 2016 to sabotage Trump's presidential campaign. A declassified appendix to the Horowitz report shows the FBI ignored evidence of classified emails tied to Obama on Hillary Clinton's server. And there's, you know, tons of other stuff too. Like this is, you know? This is just kind of the summary here. Trump, of course, president Trump is, of course, echoing the claim he had we'll show this. Do I have it? Yeah, he had some choice words to say about it it was all Obama, this was all Biden. These people were corrupt, the whole thing was corrupt and we caught them.

Speaker 2: 40:44

It was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. So, yep, so he had that to say about it. Uh, as we know I believe it was cnn again, um, cut away when tulsi was giving her report. They just started talking right over. They kept the, the video up, uh, the live video up of her, but as soon as she started giving some details like and anyhow, so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la is what they were basically doing, that was the equivalent. So you know how, how, how pathetic is that. So you know, here we are still having approximately half the country I would like to think way less than that that are sitting there going. You know, conspiracy theory. It's a lie. We don't. We don't know what they're talking about. I don't know. Seems pretty real to me. What do you think, clay?

Speaker 3: 41:32

So this is one of the topics this was actually the opening topic that I blundered last week. So you know what this stems from is they found an email that was not, you know, erased, destroyed. Whatever they found it and it is from the former DNI, circa fall of 2016, his executive assistant. And so what happened was President Obama brought this is after the election, so President Trump had won. He had not, yet this was between the election and the inauguration, right. And so he brought the cabinet and some other advisors in and said listen, this intel that everybody is looking at that says that Russia had nothing to do with this doesn't jive. I don't agree with it. I don't believe it. So you all, the intelligence community, need to go back and rewrite all of your assessments to make them say that there was Russian interference in the election, right. And so there was an email sent out from the DNI the DNI's executive assistant to all of the other heads within the intelligence community that said, hey, listen, per the president's directive and the ODNI office of the DNI will take the lead on this we will all collectively rewrite our intelligence assessments to say that the Russians interfered with the election in favor of President Trump, and then, within the next few days, those assessments were republished and changed, and this was just prior to the election. I think they actually came out on January 6th of 2017, interestingly enough, but again before the inauguration of President Trump, so they found this email.

Speaker 3: 43:08

Now, just today, there has been more evidence found Hoover Building. For those of you that don't know, the FBI is moving out of the Hoover Building, as directed by Director Patel, and they are finding things, including whole rooms, that most people did not know or have access to, and just today, they found a number of burn bags, and if you've never dealt with intelligence before, burn bags are a real thing. Okay, don't let anybody tell you otherwise. They are literal two foot tall brown paper bags with markings on them that you put classified material in, you roll them up and seal them, and then they are taken to an incinerator and and burned. Okay, I have dealt with these a million times. They are a real.

Speaker 3: 43:53

Okay, they found burn bags in one of these unmarked, unnamed rooms in the fbi headquarters that were filled with the intelligence annex that the dni reviewed and said, yeah, these don't jive with what we want them to jive, and then they were systematically put away to be destroyed. They were not, however, destroyed, and that's Kash Patel. Director Patel is currently he's notified folks that these exist. He is going through with the director of the CIA, the DNI, kelsey Gabbard, and some other folks to declassify these documents and then they will be turned over to the investigative committee from Congress that is looking into this entire thing. So that's a development as of today.

Speaker 2: 44:35

Is this part of you think? Dan Bongino has been in the headlines a lot lately and he made a pretty jarring statement about, you know, the things that he has seen have, you know, basically shaken him to his core and just changed him forever. Essentially, you think this is part of it, Because I don't think this was actually necessarily in connection to the whole Epstein files. This was more related to the actions and behaviors of the government body, like the skeleton of it, essentially, and he is shooketh, as they say, which is crazy, crazy.

Speaker 3: 45:13

Yeah, I agree. I think that that statement that he made I think it was on X was related to this. And I think because, as a deputy director of the FBI, I think he, because he talked about this is not how you run the republic, etc. And I think specifically what he was referring to, even though he was very kind of vague about what it was. But I don't like the fact that he said that that's one of those. I've got a secret. I've got a secret. I'm not going to tell you what it is kind of thing. And I, you know, I've never been a fan of that and I understand that what he's trying to do is kind of quell the upheaval that says you know, FBI is not doing anything, they're not showing us anything, we're not getting any of the documents. And he's trying to tell people relax, this is a full investigation, we're going to do it by the book. But I think his add-on that says you know this is jarring, Like I would never be the same, Like that's kind of one of those teasers where it's like well, if it's that bad, just tell us. And I wish he hadn't put that on there.

Speaker 3: 46:10

I understand why he did, but this is growing, because now you've got the evidence too, that the Russians truthfully said they didn't care whether it was Trump or Hillary Clinton. They said, you know like Hillary Clinton could be manipulated because they had the dig on her with the medication and the psychosis and you know the tranquilizers and everything else. They also said that Trump would be more amicable to deal with, Right, so they thought she could be manipulated, but they thought he could be talked to and they really didn't give a crap one way or the other. So why would they interfere with the election, which is really the kind of the nail in the coffin on this whole thing. So, yeah, it's definitely interesting and definitely interesting and, for sure, something that we all need to continue to pay attention to. Don't let it get to the back of you know, the newspaper below the hold, as they used to say. Keep this at top of mind to find out really what happened.

Speaker 2: 47:05

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, and of course, the debates going back and forth are I don't know if they're debates, conversations of whether or not Obama or the Clintons will ever see jail time for what they have, you know, now seemingly more and more concretely, provably have done. Will they, will they ever pay for those crimes, you know, or will they find a way out of it, some loophole or some something or other? Because, the way I understand it, his presidential immunity does not apply to this. You know, I know people were trying to float that one out there. I'm like, and as soon as I heard it, I'm like, yeah, no, that feels like a flat out. No, this was no, nope, not going to fall under that.

Speaker 3: 47:45

So yeah, you don't get to. As a former commander who dealt with assessments from intelligence officials, you know like you don't get to look at the intel guy and go, you know I don't like your. You can say I don't like your assessment. You can even say I don't agree with your assessment.

Speaker 3: 47:58

What you can't do is say, rewrite your assessment to make sure it agrees with what I think. Like that's absolute no-no, you know, it does a disservice to the intelligence community, it's dishonest. And again, it does not like. That doesn't qualify for presidential immunity. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 48:14

No, definitely not, Definitely not. Yeah, I mean, you know, like many, like all, I would hope, if there has been, which we all know, I believe that there has been. But I will be fair and say if there has been wrongdoing, criminal wrongdoing, treasonous wrongdoing, I hope they rot in jail. I'll say all day long, every day rot in jail. Don't care at all about anything else to do with them whatsoever, just get them, get them.

Speaker 3: 48:45

I hope they do. And you know, what's awesome is that, while all of this is going on, president Trump is still making deals. Right, he just went over to Scotland, you know, walked in, sat down, you know, knocked out this EU-US trade deal. What is it? So we've got 15% tariff on all EU goods, $600 billion in American goods being purchased, including defense equipment, $750 billion invested in US energy of all kinds gas, natural gas, all kinds of stuff and so far I heard this today and I just smiled we have made the United States has made in tariff income $150 billion in three months, folks.

Speaker 2: 49:30

Yep, that's a billion folks. Billion, yes, billion dollars, right, yeah, so much winning. And listen, you want to hate on Trump forever and ever. Go ahead Like you know. If that's what I don't know, that's what warms your heart, if hate warms your heart, knock yourself out. But you cannot, you can't deny this success. You can't deny it. You'll be mad about it. If you hate America, you know, be mad all you want.

Speaker 3: 49:58

The only EU official who's upset about this is Macron and, truthfully, if we pissing that guy off, then I think we're doing a good job.

Speaker 2: 50:04

Yeah, exactly yeah, nobody really cares. He's embarrassing himself left and right, that one.

Speaker 3: 50:13

And then talk about embarrassing. So we've got Representative Crockett who thinks she can control the meat. I know she's one of your favorites. You should start impersonating her.

Speaker 2: 50:23

I really should. I really should. I don't know if I can do those eyelashes. I think it would give me trauma. It would feel like having two butterflies sitting on my eyes.

Speaker 3: 50:33

I'm sure you can find a filter.

Speaker 2: 50:38

There you go. Yeah, I'll just use a filter, you're right. Why wouldn't I just take the easy way for that? Yeah, she's right. Oh, my goodness she is. She's just silly Clay. What is she? It's like every day is her first day and she thinks she's. You know she's the top of the mountain, there that one. Um, thinks she's, you know she's the top of the mountain, there that one. So she attempted to block an article by the Atlantic, which is a joke in and of itself. After learning, the reporter contacted fellow Democrats without her permission. The audacity to think that they needed her permission, like this, is what I mean when I say like, is this her first day? No-transcript, I am shocked at that. Uh, combative and a liability to her own party. And that is an absolute 100%, no duh, which is why we love her. You know, we love her over here on the on the right. You know, um, please keep it up, keep her, keep her, keep entertaining us with. You know, give me, give me some skit material, cause maybe that could happen. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 52:03

Her level, of her level of arrogance, like you said, when she found out that they had not only spoken to people without her permission, but also that the things that were said about her were not all that flattering, and she told the Atlantic that they needed to cancel the profile that they were doing on her and that she was revoking all of the privileges that she had given them. And they basically turned and looked at her and said that's not how this works. Like you already gave us the information, you signed all the releases or whatever, and you can't take it back.

Speaker 2: 52:26

Yeah, no, take backs.

Speaker 3: 52:28

She tried to cancel it. She tried to have it canceled.

Speaker 2: 52:35

She. She tried to cancel it she tried to have it canceled.

Speaker 3: 52:35

She tried to have it shut down and to the.

Speaker 2: 52:35

Atlantic's credit and I very rarely, if ever, give them credit Words. We rarely ever say yeah.

Speaker 3: 52:38

They proceeded forward and they have published, or are publishing, this article that is not so friendly to Representative Crockett, which is good. I think we need that. I think we need you know, we've said it a million times in the press, especially from, you know, the ones that traditionally are not all that honest in the Atlantic Right. So it's a good sign from them that they're doing this and from her that she's dumb enough to think that she can stop it.

Speaker 2: 53:09

Yeah, yeah, I think you know one of my favorite the talk to other Democratic leaders about her, because she doesn't want anybody talking about her. She'll like that. However, she is already been notorious for name calling. Let's not forget that she called MGT and I had to write it down because I have to read it because saying it's like one of those tongue twisters referred to Marjorie Taylor Greene as a as beach blonde, bad built butch body. Granted, that was very funny just by itself, but the fact that you're calling another member of Congress that. And then she also had a problem with she complained about AOC and Bernie going on their little tour together because they were distracting from the party, meaning she wasn't in on that, she wasn't the center of that attention. So that was a problem. So she trash talked her own party members but they can't talk about her Like that's not okay. Oh, can't stand her.

Speaker 3: 54:09

She's a joke. Listen, women on women. Women criticizing right now is the hot thing to do. Young Miss Sidney Sweeney, which I didn't even know who she was until we talked about the BJ's wedding and the whole thing had no clue who this young lady was. But she is, you know, the young hot thing right now. She's, you know, 26. She's blonde, she's beautiful, she's got a woman's body. She's, you know, all of young hot thing right now. She's, you know, 26. She's blonde, she's beautiful, she's got a woman's body. She's all of those things. What she's not is she's not gay, bi, trans, she's not overweight, she's not body positive, she's not any of those things. And she has been.

Speaker 3: 54:44

You know, she is the new face and body of the American Eagle Outfitters Company and their jeans, their denim campaign, which is titled Sydney Sweeney, has Great Jeans spelled with a J. It's brilliant, it's brilliant. And listen, folks, it's advertising, it's marketing. Yeah, they know what sells. And, whether you want to say objectifying or not, if she agreed to it and she got paid for it and she's cool with it, yep, did some business in jeans, right? I think her in a jean jacket, I think with nothing on underneath, right, and and so of course we have it guys.

Speaker 2: 55:22

Yes, yes, yes, we have it. I'll show you, I have no problem with it. What's down from?

Speaker 4: 55:26

parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color. My jeans are blue. My body's composition is determined by my jeans. Hey, eyes up.

Speaker 2: 55:45

It's cute, it's funny, she's got a fabulous body. You know, the only mean girl thing I guess I could say about her is is that really how she talks? Like she, she's got a very I don't know, is that a very California way of talking or something? Yeah, uh, her, her manner of speaking is is interesting, Um, but other than that, I don't even well to say that I have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with it. I just find it curious. Um, she's a beautiful, well-proportioned young woman doing what she was paid to do, which is advertise these jeans because she's got the body for them to make them look very flattering and appealing.

Speaker 2: 56:23

Especially white liberal women on the left find this to be the most offensive, horrific, terrible thing that could ever come across the country in the past five minutes. Yes, it's promoting eugenics, right, that's one of their things. It's a nod to Nazism. Um, it is a. It's a nod to nazism. Um, it's, you know, misogynistic. It's. It's like all of the things wrapped up in one and the rest of us are sitting here going. No, it's just a gorgeous girl in a pair of jeans, selling jeans and being, you know, and the brand being punny. You know, that's funny, jeans, jeans. But not if you're on the left. It's's, you know, it's crimes against humanity now.

Speaker 3: 57:11

And in the perfect twist you know there's. There's a contrast to I think there was a previous ad campaign that sounded similar. They had Beyonce involved, but then people were also hearkening back to Brooke Shields, back in the old Calvin Klein days and those sorts of things. But the reality is is that there's no such thing as bad press, and you know what happened on the stock market today American Eagle Outfitter's outfit or stock went through the roof.

Speaker 2: 57:35

So I don't even like jeans, but I would go buy those now just just because, just because, yeah, so good on them, brilliant, and yes, it is the rule of you know, any press is good press. So they are sitting there listening to all of this, watching all of this and high-fiving each other. So good job, liberal ladies. You just you single-handedly not Sydney, you single-handedly drove up their stock. So nice work, proud of you.

Speaker 3: 58:03

The stock that is falling is the WNBA, yet again.

Speaker 2: 58:07

Oh man, they cannot get out of their own way. Whoa, oh. So this is. You know this, right here. This wig incident, of course, is the latest in just a free fall of a comedy of errors. Basically, you know, first they they ran with the, the you know, brainstorm this great idea to, you know, wear these shirts and start this whole pay us what you owe us thing, and that kind of nosedive really quick, when you really looked at the numbers of what they're bringing in or not bringing in, you know so, exactly exactly, they're losing money. So, fail number one. I think I have more fails than that, but we're just starting there. Fail number one. Fail number two is this wig incident. Here we do have a video. It's not really a great video, but you can kind of see'll play it a lot. But at the end I went through the room, oh no, picking up her wig. Oh no, running off the court with it.

Speaker 3: 58:56

So yeah, so that's awkward and embarrassing so, um, if you want to be, you know they want to be taken seriously as a league. They want to be taken seriously as athletes, they want to be taken seriously as a sport and the reality is, is that so? You know, moving around the screen, her hair got caught, her wig got pulled off of her head. She picked it up off the floor, right. The rest blew the woods. Yeah, because of foul. She picked it up. She ran off the court.

Speaker 3: 59:21

Every their stunt there was no technical foul called for leaving the court, as there would be for anybody else. Right, because she didn't just run off the court folks, this wasn't dennis rodman running down the tunnel because of momentum. And then coming back, she ran off the court all the way back to the locker room to fix gig, right. And then after a few seconds, about 20 seconds her team called timeout, right, a penalty involved there. Um and right, and the announcers were caught. They were calling it a malfunction. They were. They didn't say wig, they never said a word. Right.

Speaker 3: 59:59

And then, to cap it all, off the bench she plays for this is kalia copper, who plays for the phoenix mercury. They were playing the las vegas aces. For those people who don't know who any of these teams are, like me. So the Phoenix Mercury bench heard a fan behind them, because there's only like 150 people watching the game. They could hear somebody behind them make fun of her and her wig. They reported the fan to the officials, who grabbed the head of security who had that fan escorted out of the game for fun. I swear had a making fun of her and her wig right now you have 149 fans.

Speaker 3: 1:00:38

Way to go guys right, and so they look petty, they look scared, they look like not serious and the fan got paused and and so there's so many things wrong with this. Nobody should take them seriously. The league has shot itself in the foot for the 50th time. They don't protect Caitlin Clark, who is the golden goose, right, yes, and all of this is just garbage. It's crap. They lose money on a daily basis. Nba needs to stop funding them. Shut them down, like just shut them down. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 1:01:07

Yeah, listen, you know it's either shut them down or get somebody in there that isn't afraid to run this like an organization should be run with professionalism, integrity. You know all of the things. Take it serious, do it right, you know, because it is a shame. You know you have some really truly talented athletes out there and they deserve the opportunity to represent their sport and play the damn game. Stop with all the stupid garbage. Represent their sport and play the damn game. Stop with all this stupid garbage. Stop, you know, making women basically a joke. You know which is what all of this reflects.

Speaker 2: 1:01:40

And listen, I don't care if she wants to wear a wig. I mean, I don't think it's a good choice, but I wear a wig to play basketball. I mean, you know this is, but be aware this can happen and if it does happen, be professional. Kick it over to the side and keep playing the damn game, keep going. You know you have a wardrobe malfunction. You keep going, you fix it and you keep going. Be professional. That was not professional. That was embarrassing in multiple ways, embarrassing for her, certainly. I actually do feel sympathetic to that. If I put myself in that position, I don't think I'd be wearing my wig to play basketball. You know, I mean, these things will get yanked right out. I'm aware of that possibility. So, you know, act accordingly, but whatever.

Speaker 2: 1:02:18

But the whole thing is a joke, guys. I want to know is anybody watching? Are you guys watching this stuff? They may. Oh, by the way, that was I almost forgot. There was one more embarrassing incident and I can't believe and you're going to be shocked that I am showing this, but I have to. I mean, this is the final, you know, the final nail in the coffin here. This is how seriously this league is being taken. Like these are the things that are that are happening. Like it's just one embarrassment after another. Like the game actually had to be stopped in order to remove the object from the court.

Speaker 3: 1:02:59

Like Did somebody throw it onto the court. Is that what happened?

Speaker 2: 1:03:03

Somebody threw that onto the court, like that's how much respect this league has garnered. Uh, you know, it's like so. Oh, it's all very cringe and it should not be.

Speaker 3: 1:03:14

Let me another business. Find me any business, any business at all that has been in business for 30 years and has lost money every single year. Find one for me and then we can discuss this. But in the meantime, wnba has got to go. It's got to go. I'm sorry, I hate it for Caitlin Clark. I hate it for, you know, all of the ladies who you know tried to build this league, the Sue Birds you know Reggie Miller's sister.

Speaker 3: 1:03:36

You know all of them that started this. I feel bad for all of them because of what this has become and the fact that it's never been successful, but it's time to go.

Speaker 2: 1:03:46

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think so At this point. You know it's, it's got to go the way of Stephen Colbert Right, send it, send him on his way. You're losing money for, in this case, your league. He was losing money for the network, so you got to go.

Speaker 3: 1:04:03

Interesting, they lose the same amount of money per year.

Speaker 2: 1:04:05

Ironic, ironic, yeah, like yeah. And again, sorry for the, sorry for the young women who take the sport seriously and play it well and are doing everything that they can to do the right things here. It's such a disservice to them the way this is going. But you know, the fact is the fact, you're losing money, you have zero respect and that's a damn shame. So I want to know in the comments anybody watch, does anybody watch? You guys watch it? Because I have not. I never, have, never will. All I catch is the low lights of you know crazy things happen, so, but uh well, oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2: 1:04:39

So we did it, we. We went a little bit over and that's okay. There was nine topics. I think we threw in a little bonus thing here and there, um, but you know all really relevant stuff to what's happening in the world. We try and give you the highlights and the low lights of it all and end up with a little bit of a chuckle at the end there. So we hope you guys enjoyed the show. As always, we will join you in the comments section. Clay, you want to close them out?

Speaker 3: 1:05:03

Hi folks, thanks for joining us and again I apologize for last week, but I think we made more than made up for today with the nine topics and a little bit of an extended show, and we appreciate you. And, as always, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 1: 1:05:15

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