Unmasking the Orchestrators Behind American Civil Unrest

America faces orchestrated chaos as riots in Los Angeles expose the refusal of California leadership to protect citizens and law enforcement. What started as protests against ICE operations has devolved into full-scale rioting with evidence of pre-positioned supplies and planned coordination.

• Chinese nationals caught smuggling dangerous biological materials through University of Michigan
• University officials under scrutiny after multiple smuggling incidents involving Wuhan connections
• RFK Jr. fires entire Vaccine Advisory Council, removing pharmaceutical industry influence
• Simone Biles faces backlash after attacking Riley Gaines over transgender athletes in women's sports
• Elon Musk and President Trump's public spat demonstrates real-time news happening without media filters
• LA riots spreading to other major cities ahead of planned "No Kings Day" demonstrations
• California leadership actively opposing National Guard deployment to protect federal officers
• Clear evidence of coordination behind riots with pre-positioned supplies and funding

Keep moving, keep shooting.

Chapters

• 0:00 Show Introduction
• 2:34 Greta's Gaza Flotilla Stunt
• 11:48 Chinese Bioweapon Smuggling Incident
• 19:17 RFK Jr. Fires Vaccine Advisory Council
• 23:07 Social Media Spats and PR Disasters
• 32:54 California Riots and Immigration Enforcement
• 48:17 Show Wrap-up and Father's Day Wishes

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:02

it's the Elsa Kirk show with Clay Novak serving up trending news and conservative views brought to you by the Elsa.

Speaker 3: 0:09

Kirk collection and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 4: 0:13

So well, hey, there slight little change to the intro, just a little. You know I'm that person that has to move furniture around like every couple of months, just because.

Speaker 1: 0:37

Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 4: 0:38

How are?

Speaker 1: 0:38

you, I'm good. Don't let anything stagnate. That's good. There's nothing wrong with that. Right, you can't get too comfortable in life. I like it. It's good. I'm good. How are you?

Speaker 4: 0:51

I'm good. I'm good. I already warned you. I warned Clay guys before we started recording on Wednesday. Look at me bringing that right in. I'm discombobulated. So y'all are going to have to bear with me today. I don't know what my problem is. I have no excuses. Just bear with me. I'm just. I'm like out of sorts. You ever have a day like that. I don't know, is it supposed to be like a full moon or something tonight? I don't know, I don't even know.

Speaker 1: 1:17

I don't follow, nor do I believe in any of that stuff, so I, I, I don't, you know the full moon thing and all that, but regardless, we do have a. You know, we're going to do something a little bit different, format wise, with the show. Usually we start out with our, our big topic, the one that we spend the most time on. We're going to flip the show a little bit, we're going to knock out maybe four or five smaller ones and then, and then we're going to spend probably the back half of the show talking about the big one.

Speaker 3: 1:48

And we'll get started right after this Tonight on the Elsa Kurt show with Clay Novak. From Greta's cosplay crusade to bio lab breaches, from broken trust in science to trans confusion in sports and, yes, riots in the streets these aren't random headlines. They're coordinated symptoms of a culture that's rejected truth and replaced it with feelings. We're not here to coddle it. We're here to call it out with bold faith real truth and absolutely no apologies.

Speaker 4: 2:11

And now it's time for the show. Oh, such an intense little intro there, but we're not starting off. That's right. I kind of like it too. It's kind of fun. We are not starting off intense, we're starting off with kind of like a head shake and a chuckle.

Speaker 4: 2:35

Here, talking about Greta's great adventures, or not so great adventures, I have so many mixed feelings about this girl. You know, on one hand she infuriates me and you know I just kind of want to mom, smack her upside the side of her head. And. And there's the other side. That can't help but feeling this sympathy towards her because I think as a child she was brainwashed and manipulated and just completely brainwashed by the people who are supposed to be having her best interests at hearts and clearly just have used her as as a tool, as a weapon, basically, and, uh, and and. Here we are, and um, I'm I feel like everybody does know what I'm talking about Um, but we're talking about, uh, greta's uh and her merry band of influencers.

Speaker 4: 3:21

Um, brilliant idea to take their little flotilla, their influencer flotilla or selfie flotilla, right over to Gaza to bring them some aid because they care so much. And, by the way, here they are, you know, just on their very serious, deep, profound mission, because they're such humanitarians, having a great old time taking their little videos and their selfies and all their fun things. It's just, I didn't bother with the sound because I don't even want to hear them, I just, I just want you to see what their adventure, you know? Basically, look like. I mean, these kids look like they're just going on a little sightseeing tour, you know, this is how you know of their complete lack. There she is, there's Greta. Um, their whole lack of anything, anything whatsoever. Clay, what are your? What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 1: 4:23

yeah, so so it was a crew of 12 um and they had a, a ship. I can't remember the name of it. I'll be honest with you. I was shocked to find out. Greta was 22 years old. I I guess she's been that present in the news cycle for long enough that I still thought she was a kid. She still looks like a teenager.

Speaker 1: 4:47

She still looks like a child. I truly believe that there's something maybe developmentally wrong with her. Do we still like Asperger's? I don't know if that's still a common use term or not, but I would say she's in that probably high functioning autistic category.

Speaker 4: 5:09

That was always the, the phrase or the term that was used along with her for as long as she's been in the public eye and that was kind of like their big like I hate to use it, but how dare you, moment you can't make fun of her, she, she has. And, yes, then they did call it Asperger's. I don't think they call it Asperger's anymore, I think they just label it as being on the spectrum. Um, but that was like their big talking point, like you cannot make fun of this girl, this child, um, because she has an issue here, a disability, and um, you know, now, if you say you're just being mean, I don't know, but I truly do think there is something there.

Speaker 4: 5:52

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 5:53

I've been called mean before, so I'm not really worried about it. But you know, so her plus 11 on a single ship with aid, humanitarian aid to Gaza, and you know cross, you know a portion of the Mediterranean. They got picked up by the Israeli Navy, got boarded, got detained. You know the amount of aid. It turns out that was on their little boat was less than a single truckload, and on a daily basis. You're talking like 120 trucks full of aid going to Gaza every day.

Speaker 1: 6:28

So, while I think I don't think their intentions were good, I don't think they were altruistic, I think, truthfully, this was a prop job. This was a hundred percent about the selfie, about the press and all of that. So I got boarded, they got detained. Uh, there was a rumor that they were forced to sit and watch live footage um, and not Israeli footage, but captured footage or footage used by Hamas. Uh, over seventh of the atrocities they were committing. Um, I don't know if that's true or not, but that that was the rumor, um, if, if it's true, I think that's probably one of the best punishments that that could ever be levied on them. Then her, along with three of the 12, signed deportation orders or allowed themselves to be deported. She's claiming that, or someone advised her that she can do much better uh, outside of israel have more effects. So therefore, she signed the deportation order.

Speaker 1: 7:31

Funny enough, put her, uh eco-loving little butt, on an aeroplane, uh, and flew her back to europe yeah but the other, yeah, the other eight which somewhere in this 12 person, um, you know, contingent is a, uh, eu parliament member, so there's a, an elected or an appointed official governmental official, you know, in this crew, um, but they sent eight are still sitting in israel right now, uh, waiting for whatever happens to them next.

Speaker 1: 8:03

But this was all. It was all a ruse, it was all garbage. I think truthfully. As much as well, I think that you know, we would have loved to have just seen the Israeli Navy wave at them as they went by and let them dock in Gaza and just see what happened.

Speaker 4: 8:20

Let them do it. Yes, they really. You know there's a, there is. I agree. There is a huge part of me that says should have just let them go.

Speaker 4: 8:27

Let them go and see how great it is there, how well received they are, you know, with their selfies. Go ahead, take your selfies with the, with these people, see, see how well that all turns out for you. But yeah, you're exactly right, it was a 59 foot boat. It had less than a single truckload of supplies like less than a single truckload. And just you know, just as the side note, and I don't know how many people realize this, but the Trump administration backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, successfully delivered more than eight million meals to Gazans since its operation began less than a month ago, and that's according to the organization. So you know, comparing Greta's efforts to that. And then again, look at this child's joy at being offered a snack by the big bad Israelis, right by the big mean bad people. She didn't seem so mad about getting that little snacky snack from them. Huh, oh, and the yes.

Speaker 4: 9:32

So I did hear the same thing you did about them being, you know, forced to watch that footage. And I also heard, in continuation of that, that they allegedly supposedly all turn their backs and refuse to watch. And if that is true at all, if there is truth to that, they are the biggest cowards, pieces of garbage on the planet. You absolute garbage, cowards you. If that? If that's the case but it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case so well, I'll look into it more. I'll. I'll try and find out if there's any real confirmation of it.

Speaker 1: 10:11

Do not. Do not waste your time with this. We should all stop wasting our time with Greta. All of us Like this shouldn't have been reported. This shouldn't have been in the news cycle. No one should care. She's a 22 yearyear-old, truthfully mal-raised probably, and emotionally unstable young lady that needs psychiatric help and we should stop perpetuating her problem as humanity Like we should just get that young girl some help and move on. We've got to stop putting any attention on her and getting her out from in front of a camera. It's terrible.

Speaker 1: 10:47

So, please, Elsa, don't waste any more time on this.

Speaker 4: 10:50

You know what? I agree with you. You're absolutely right. If you guys want to find out, go find out. I'm washing my hands of this.

Speaker 4: 10:58

Yeah, yeah, and you know, and it's true, and you know, as a society, honestly, and I and I'm throwing myself in it, I've, you know, reported on this um already once or twice on on my page and all of that stuff and um, yes, it is not only is it giving the attention that they're seeking, um, and and, just you know, platforming them with their absurdities, it's also when you add that layer of somebody who is not mentally fit. That's like the only way I'm thinking of putting it. I'm sure there's other ways I could have phrased that. That's the way I'm phrasing it. You know, it is time to kind of like move away from it and not keep feeding into the absurdity. Really. So, yes, that's it, that's all we're talking about with that girl. We're going to move on to one. That makes my stomach do a somersault. I just I barely can even discuss this just because of that one word right there. I, I can't do it, but I can, I can, I, I can't. I'm professional. Clay, I got this.

Speaker 1: 12:08

Well, the good news is the worms weren't actually on the plane, so that's the good news, but so there's a trend coming out of the University of Michigan which is very, very scary. The one that we're talking about initially is her name. Is I'm going to, I'm going to to try this, and this is the only one I'm going to try, because there's two other names that I'm definitely not going to try. I think this is uh, uh, changshuan Han. I think is her name. Um and uh so she is a.

Speaker 1: 12:36

She is a PhD student at uh, the university in Wuhan. Go figure, um and and over the course of 2024, and I think into 2025, she sent four packages to a colleague at the University of Michigan, where they were received, and those are the worms that we're talking about. Right, it's a roundworm which has the potential to have impact on all kinds of things US crops and others. So she was picked up at the Detroit Metro Airport. When she landed, she lied to customs, then she lied to the feds and she lied, and she lied and she lied. So the intent she smuggled these worms through the mailing system.

Speaker 1: 13:27

She deleted, cleared her phone, her electronic device three weeks before she came to the States, lied upon arrival, and then, once she was arrested, you know, she lied some more and some more, and finally it all came out. My question, though, is who? I applause to him, but who? Who either turned her in from the University of Michigan, or is this a result of the other two Chinese nationals who got busted in connection with the University of Michigan just a week and a half ago?

Speaker 4: 14:01

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, no matter what, obviously, university of Michigan, you know, needs to be looked at under a magnifying glass right now. So you know, because the obvious question what's going on here? Why is this happening specifically here? Why is this being allowed to happen? And you know, the scary thought is, of course, how much has gone undetected. You know how many things have have slipped through that we are not aware of right now. And we've got these, you know, biohazards, you know, just lurking around. So, yeah, you know, I feel like it's obvious to say that these people need to be. If they're foreign nationals, right there're. I mean, they're not from this, she's not from this country, correct? She's here on what? Student visas and all of that stuff. Okay, so that needs to be done.

Speaker 1: 14:55

I think she was here on some no, I don't know, I don't maybe a work visa of some kind or something like that, but hers was supposed to be not she was not on a student visa.

Speaker 1: 15:10

She's working PhD work, you know, at the Wuhan university. I think hers might've been a, even a, a tourist visa. I don't think I've ever seen it clarified, but it didn't. You know, I think part of the reason that she shipped that stuff is because she didn't want any of that detected. But you know the incident before this, very similarly related.

Speaker 1: 15:28

So you've got a uh, a female again I'm not going to try and pronounce these names. So you've got a female uh working at the university of Michigan, chinese national right Um, who coordinated with her boyfriend who works in a lab in China to send over or smuggle a fungus that definitely affects crops, right, can be used as a bioterror weapon, and so he got nabbed at the. You know, he got nabbed, she got nabbed, and then I. I just wonder if that is what opened up. You know, or gave enough information to the feds to pick up this first one. But yeah, I mean University of Michigan under a magnifying glass or a microscope, no pun intended, is really like there's something very, very scary going on out of that place that place.

Speaker 4: 16:29

Yes, yeah, and you couple that with the you know the um, the knowledge that the fact that China has bought up like an absurd amount of farmland in this country, you know. So, listen, I don't know whose responsibility it is to stop this, but they better get the hell on it. Does that fall under my guy there, RFK Jr, Does that fall under him? I mean, it's kind of like a mixed thing. It's like defense issue too, because this is potential bioterrorism.

Speaker 1: 16:59

Yeah, I would say this is cross cabinet. You've got some cross-departmental coordination that's going to happen. You know Health and Human Services, for sure. Department of Agriculture, for sure You've got. You know Department of Homeland Security, you've got DOD. Like I think everybody plays a little part. You know a part in this. Either it's lending expertise or you know law enforcement implications, defense, terror implications. Yeah, this has a lot of tentacles to it, but you're right, several members of Congress are trying to rectify in ways of either limiting, stopping any further purchases or even eminent domain and taking it back, which would be an interesting move politically. But yeah, this is scary stuff. You know this is. This is pretty scary that it's it's on the radar, that it's this blatant, but also that it's tied to a very prominent and well-known university in the United States.

Speaker 4: 18:09

Yes, yeah, I would imagine, and I'm sure it's already being done, but I'm sure the Trump administration is looking at their funding what kind of government, anything that they're getting right and, you know, hopefully we're going to see some revocation of that the whole thing is is just crazy to me and and I always have to, like, stop myself a little bit, and and I think this is very common for a lot of us Like we hear about these things, I want to see something done immediately. You know, like, right now, I want to see major action, and the truth of the matter is is that there's so much happening government wise, behind the scenes, and they're, you know, I do fully believe that they are working on this, um, you know, as we speak, um, but, yeah, it's, it's really frightening. So, yeah, really frightening, so yeah, yep, well, I think that um I think that actually goes right into nicely with.

Speaker 4: 19:13

uh, since I already brought them up, we're gonna we're gonna move right into this guy and guys. We're kind of going through these a little bit quicker only because our last topic is, you know, a bigger one. It's such a big topic, so we're, you know, moving a little bit quickly here for them. But this is one of the things, this goes, this goes.

Speaker 1: 19:34

Go ahead. Don't let the media fool you on this. So RFK Jr fired the entire Vaccine Advisory Council, which I think was in the neighborhood of 12 to 14 people I don't know if that number is right, but I think I read that somewhere but he took them all and he fired them, and this is being portrayed as he's an anti-vaxxer, that these are experts in vaccines, that somehow they have a goodness in their heart, altruistic role. These folks on this vaccine advisory council are either lobbyists or owned by lobbyists or owned by big pharma. These are the people who are inside of Health and Human Services who are advocating for specific vaccines for specific reasons. And if you ever look at the, I know you you spoke about this, I think, a while ago where the number of vaccines has escalated, like it's increased exponentially in the last 25 years. This, this advisory council, is the reason why, and that's why he got rid of them.

Speaker 4: 20:43

Yes, yeah, absolutely. This is, you know, one of those moves that I've been waiting to see. I'm so glad to see it happening. And of course, of course, the left is, you know, screaming oh, he's anti-science, you know, no, no, that's not the case. And these are, by the way, the same people that you know pushed a vaccine and denied the existence, the reality of natural immunity and all of those things. So you know the motives on these people, as you well stated. You know, not in our best interest, not in our best interest and getting paid on our dime. So you're out of here. He did the old Trump you're fired routine. I hope he actually did. I would love if he just walked into a big like board meeting or whatever and just fired. It's just a little visuals that I like, but yeah, I mean, this is again.

Speaker 1: 21:39

Yeah, there was an interesting quote that kind of results. Somebody was asking him about this, about firing this committee, about getting rid of all of them. Somebody was asking him about this, about firing this committee, about getting rid of all of them, and then about I guess HHS is going through a little bit of a rehiring of certain people that they've already let go and this he's the first government official I have heard say this. But he said as a result of Doge, right, all of the people that got fired as a result of Doge. He said we knew that we were going to make mistakes and that we would have to rehire about 20% of the people we fired. We knew that going in as a result of the Doge cuts it was not surprising to him totally anticipated, which we've seen across other departments. He is the first one. Especially, he's the first lead. I think that has said that out loud and I thought that was really really interesting that it kind of got tied in with this firing of the vaccine advisory committee. But he did say it out loud.

Speaker 4: 22:39

Interesting. Do you think that you know, along with everything else, that the the financial purposes of doing a, doing that and just the logical reasons for doing that? Do you think part of that also involves trying to rebuild the public trust? Because you know to state the obvious, public trust in, in all of these government organizations is, at like, a negative zero, and I can speak for myself personally if it's coming from the government, I don't trust it. It's a flat out no, thank you. And there's so much work ahead to be able to rebuild that trust. Do you even think that it's possible?

Speaker 1: 23:25

Yeah, I do, and I think that this is part of it and I think you're starting to see it in the media as well. If you saw ABC I can't remember the guy's name, but the guy who interviewed president Trump from ABC on his hundredth day it was the hundred day interview, a hundred days in office. Over the weekend he made a tweet on X office. Over the weekend he made a tweet on X whatever you can, x post, whatever um where he he talked about the president and he called him. You know he said something derogatory about him.

Speaker 4: 23:57

I didn't think it was really that big of a deal, but he called him a world-class hater or something like that. I don't know. Oh right, stephen Miller, he was calling yeah Right.

Speaker 1: 24:02

So then then he deleted it. He deleted the tweet, but of course the Internet is it does what it does. Somebody caught it, somebody reposted it and then he got suspended and then got fired. Listen, we're all struggling within the media to regain the trust of the American public and you know it sucks that he got fired. But this is what has to happen in today and this is coming from people inside of mainstream media is like we can't do this anymore. We have to regain the trust of America and having stuff like this happen we can't tolerate.

Speaker 1: 24:43

And I think you're to your point with RFK, I think it's the same thing. I think all of the doge firing was literally cut away, all of the stuff that we don't know whether we need it or not. And if we ended up we do need it, then we'll bring back what we need, but eventually. But you know, we'll cut, we'll get to the core of cutting away what we don't need. So you know it was. We talked about doing it surgically versus kind of the slash and burn, and I think what he's addressing is the slash and burn that they did and that was cut 80 percent and we'll probably have to bring back 20 percent anyway, but they knew that going in. So I think that you are going to see that and continue to see that in the government, but you're also going to see it in the media for the exact same reason.

Speaker 4: 25:32

Yeah Well, I'll tell you what I wish the media luck in doing that. I know I can say right now and for the very far foreseeable future that's not going to change for me. They are never going to be my first source for information. They're actually going to be the counter source, you know, of the all right. Well, what is the left saying? You know, and just to have it for reference, just to know what they're saying, but to um, to take them with any any sort of authority or trustworthy source for any information. And it's only going to get worse and harder. It already is that case of, obviously, with AI and manipulated videos and manipulated uh images and all of those things, I mean we're in big trouble because nobody trusts anybody and they don't trust us either.

Speaker 4: 26:34

Clay, if I post something you know on there, fake, fake news, it's not even real. And if the audio doesn't sync up like so perfectly which guys? Sometimes that happens, especially when you're resharing and re uploading things. The audio and video don't always sync perfectly. Um, they're like it's fake, they're it's you know, it's AI, it's like. Oh, I mean, I can't even argue, you can't even. And the amount of checks you have to go through yourself to make sure, like I almost shared I, you'd be so proud of me. I almost shared something. It was a meme, um, and it might be accurate now at this point, but it was. It was something maybe you've seen it supposedly that kamala harris posted for a um, a new graphic, and it's really it's oh, the 2028 yeah yes I see yeah yes, and I ran that through.

Speaker 4: 27:30

I ran it through, ai, sorry guys and asked is did she really post this? Because I didn't see it anywhere. I'm not saying that she didn't, I still don't know. You can yell at me in the comments if you know, um, but I found it very hard to. I'm like like she's not the brightest bulb in the box, but I'm not really sure she posed that. So you guys know it came back with no. By the way, it came back with at that point in time, which was yesterday, it came back with nowhere that you know we searched was this image on any of her things. So whatever, but it makes it really difficult. So I applaud I, you know, I continually applaud RFK Jr for making those efforts and and not just efforts actually following through and doing things that he said he was going to do, and I hope that continues and I hope we see the results of that soon.

Speaker 1: 28:29

Well, we're going to get back, we're going to touch more on, you know, trusting the media in our, in our final, because they're playing a big role in in that. But you know, right now we keep you and I've said it a number of times that independent journalism and, truthfully, things going out on social media are telling the truth. So then the mainstream media and sometimes people tell on themselves Right and, and so we had a little. You know, you and I talked about this before we recorded last week, folks, we recorded on Wednesday, thursday the show came out, but also thursday morning there was the spat that broke out between president trump and elon musk, right and and, and it brewed for, you know, probably about four days like at a high boil and then it kind of tapered off and then, you know, now we've got that sort of elon apology.

Speaker 1: 29:23

Know, he claimed that the president was in the Epstein files and, and you know, uh, threatened to shut down SpaceX and, like it, got off the rails very, very quickly, um, but it was all done and it was all done from from their verified accounts, Right, so you know when.

Speaker 1: 29:43

When we're watching these things happen, there isn't even time for the media to react. We're all getting at the same time as the media, we all do our own interpretation and we're seeing news happen real time with no filters. Glad this one has tapered off. I know there was a lot of people who immediately went to oh, it's a conspiracy, they planned it, this is on purpose, this is so they could expose the Epstein files and blah, blah, blah and all kinds of stuff. I don't know how true any of that is. I thought it was just two egos crashing into each other in real time, and so it is what it is. But we had another one just in the last 48 hours.

Speaker 4: 30:43

Back to back. Yes, back to back craziness. Simone Biles really stepped in a big pile of you know what. I don't know what this girl was thinking. She clearly did not run these statements through her PR team to get approval. She went on attack, she went after Riley Gaines, basically called her a bully and then went on to body shame her and essentially say that she looks like a man. So that obviously did not go over well.

Speaker 4: 31:13

And, as you said before, the internet does what the internet does and it found, like almost immediately, past statements from Simone Biles, her testimony against I forget the guy's name, maybe you'll remember his name, but, um, thank you, uh, you know, for his abuses against, uh, women in in gymnastics and the sports and everything, and that she testified against that. And you know the irony, the irony, the hypocrisy of her statements. And it just came right back and blew up right in her face. And and then now this actually surprised me. Tell me if this surprised you she actually did backpedal and apologize. I think it was a crappy apology, much like Elon's, which I'll go back to that one in just a minute too. But these crappy apologies, you know it was long winded apology, uh, much like Elon's, which I'll go back to that one in just a minute too.

Speaker 4: 32:06

But, um, these crappy apologies, you know it was long winded, it was very PR done, right, you know, like I'm sorry I said those things. But you know, when you add, but it's not an apology, you don't want the minute you add, but you know it's kind of like a backhanded apology, right, you know, my husband says I'm very good at the backhanded apology, I'll say something I don't do this anymore, guys, okay, don't come for me. You know something like well, I'm sorry that you got hurt, you're feeling hurt by. You know, that's not really an apology, that's a backhanded apology and that's kind of what both of them did apology and that's kind of what both of them did.

Speaker 4: 32:50

And Elon's apology nowhere in it was the word I apologize or I'm sorry. It was. You know, basically I made some regrettable, some regrettable statements and it was kind of like that's the end of it, you know. So I don't know. So, yeah, all right, we'll see. We'll see him for one minute. Do you think Trump should, should have or should, accept his apology? He did, to the best of my knowledge, he accepted the apology and that was kind of the end of it.

Speaker 1: 33:14

I don't think it'll die until we see the two of them in the same.

Speaker 1: 33:19

I think there will always be, whether real or fabricated, there will always be tension between the two of them, um, in because Trump doesn't let stuff like this go Um and it, you know. So, um, we're going to have to see them in the same place, smiling and shaking hands, before anybody believes that you know gone and forgotten, um. So I, I think he should um, and I think he should specifically because, um, I, I think it's in the best interest of the United States for the two of them to get along, um, I think it's in the best interest of global space exploration for the two of them to get along Um. So I, I think, president Trump, you know the two of them need to iron this out. I think president Trump will probably invite him to the white house or tomorrow, lago, and they'll, they'll figure it out between the two of them, um. But you know, this thing with simone biles and riley gaines started because riley gaines made a comment, in true form, um, about the minnesota softball team that we talked about last week.

Speaker 1: 34:22

Right, that this you know boy uh know, pitched for them and won them the state championship, and Riley Gaines said something about it, because that's her platform, I mean, literally it is. That was her and the Leah Thomas thing. That's what she's been living for the last like four years. And so she said something. And then Simone Biles said something back and then, yeah, she made a comment about you know, you should probably pick on somebody.

Speaker 4: 34:47

Pick on someone your own size or something.

Speaker 1: 34:49

Interestingly enough, a man. And then Riley Gaines comes back and goes I'm a, I'm five, five and one hundred and thirty five pounds and you know, and, and really Riley Gaines, I thought, did a very good job throughout this, keeping her composure and giving Simone Biles tons and tons of credit along the way, the things that she's done, the things that she's accomplished until and you brought it up the Larry Nassar comments. I thought Riley Gaines probably went a little bit far dragging that into this. It's a super, super sensitive topic, right, and you know it was probably a little bit much, but relevant. So you know I don't falter totally, but it was. You know that was what it's like sticking your finger on a hot burner kind of thing. But you know you're right, simone Biles did come back, she did apologize it was a very PR written apology and then Riley Gaines turned around and said well, if you apologize, then why don't you join me in this fight to protect women's sports?

Speaker 1: 35:55

And that's where we're at right now, because I don't think Simone Biles responded to that one.

Speaker 4: 36:02

No, and she probably won't. I mean that you know kudos to Riley on that as well, because now you really pushed her into a corner and she's in a Simone has put herself in an incredibly uncomfortable spot now, because now the left, or you know, who were applauding her for going after Riley Gaines, are now, you know, throwing daggers at her. They are livid that she apologized, and you know I mean they're saying I took a scroll through the the uh X comments there and they are vicious, which we know. We know this is what they vicious. Yeah, they are going at her hard. They are.

Speaker 4: 36:46

That is unacceptable. You know their middle ground is not allowed. You cannot ever, you know, come to a place of agree to disagree. Not, not for the extreme left. They will never accept that. They'll never accept civility and respect and all of those things. They want blood, they want tears, they want doxing, respect and all of those things. They want blood, they want tears, they want doxing, they want canceling, they want all of the things. And so now the right is viewing Simone Biles, as you know, just basically a hypocrite and a fool, essentially, and not somebody to look to for anything whatsoever. And now the left also can't stand her at the moment. So I would say, to sum it up, I would say it really sucks to be her right now and her smartest bet is probably just to lay very low for a little bit. Let it die down, let somebody else make a fool of themselves and take the heat off of her, and she won't have to wait long. I mean, this happens on a daily basis, right?

Speaker 1: 37:49

Yeah, and, and let's be honest, people truthfully only carry about care about gymnastics every four years. So as long as she keeps her mouth shut for a while, nobody's going to think about her, until the next Olympics rolls around and they go hey, is is. How old is Simone Biles? Is she competing again? Cause you know she keeps doing that. Every once in a while she quits and then she comes back. But yeah, if she shuts up now, it'll be three years before anybody even thinks about her again. So, yeah, the whole thing's crazy and I applaud Riley Gaines because she has stayed in this. She, she's paired herself to Charlie Kirk. For those that don't know, you know she, she is on the turning point, you know world tour with with him and, and you know, good for her and she's she's doing a great job of fighting for women's sports as a whole.

Speaker 4: 38:47

So yeah, that was a wonderful speaker, she's.

Speaker 1: 38:50

I really enjoy watching her together yeah.

Speaker 4: 38:55

Extremely well, yes, perfect, pairing her with Charlie Kirk doing that there and I've seen them both, I've seen those on the campuses and everything. And again, she's so composed, she's so knowledgeable, she's on point. Again, the way she handled this with Simone yeah, she definitely did fight some fire with some fire, but I, you know, I feel like she did it in a really classy way, really on point, calling her out, calling out the things that she said and the hypocrisy of it and, you know, not letting her get away with it and not being um, ruffled by it at all. You know, she just kind of had that wow, really, uh, mentality about it all, didn't she? Just great job. I think she's a great example, a great role model for all of that.

Speaker 4: 39:43

And, uh, simone Biles man, I don't know what you're thinking and people made some, really, you know, a really great point on there. Well, simone never had to compete against a biological male in her sport and if she did, she probably wouldn't have those gold medals and she probably wouldn't be saying what she's saying now. So, you know, real easy to talk from that glass house of yours.

Speaker 1: 40:05

Yeah, she got hit hard. And USA Gymnastics just pulled down their entire transgender athlete policy from their website. I don't think it's been said out loud whether it's being removed completely or it's just being revamped, but you know, interesting timing, as soon as this started, they jumped on their website and it got washed away, got brushed off, so their transgender policy disappeared. It hasn't been reestablished or reposted, but there is word out there that they are reconsidering their entire policy when it comes to transgender athletes. So we'll see what happens out of that. But again, honestly, three years, then somebody will care, but until then, outside of the Olympics, nobody really, no, truthfully, nobody really pays attention. So you know, it's one lucky thing for Simone Miles, but in the meantime we've got plenty of things to distract us besides that. Oh yes, oh plenty, plenty of things nonstop things to distract us.

Speaker 4: 41:05

Besides that, oh yes, oh plenty, plenty of things, non-stop things to distract us, and I think that is bringing us to our our biggest topic of the evening. Right, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it, my goodness, I mean such deja vu, isn't it clay?

Speaker 1: 41:22

it's like yeah it's such deja vu it's their vote to remember if we're old enough to remember rodney king. Yeah right, uh, 1992, um, you know which was uh, for you know you and I are of the right age group. Where that was? We were in our really key, like you know, late teens, early twenties window kind of thing, and and it was, uh, that was impactful on us because it was televised, um, you know, and, and you can hearken it back to the race riots in the late sixties and and some other things. But, um, you know, la was a mess, la was on fire, you know, I, I still remember the Korean grocers who have come up in the last few days, by the way, you know, on the rooftops of their grocery stores, you know, with rifles defending their businesses, and and now we've got a very similar situation.

Speaker 1: 42:20

You could call it similar to you know, those riots what was that? 92? And similar to George Floyd just a few years ago. Um, but this is, this is different, uh, because it's a different crowd. It's a different crowd of people. You know, truthfully, in the last two it's been a lot of, uh, uh, african-americans, uh, a lot of, you know, blacks across the. You know, um, but and and in the George Floyd, you know, whatever it was a couple of years ago, there was a lot of suburban white housewife, you know, kind of people, uh, involved with that one. This is densely, uh, hispanic, latino, mexican predominantly, but also a lot of, you know, white, liberal types joining in. So it's a different. It's got a different feel to it, although it looks very similar.

Speaker 4: 43:14

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And and you know this one, of course, the irony of this one that we're all watching in real time is the you know the waving of specifically Mexican flags. You know the waving of specifically Mexican flags. You know of people who are don't want to be deported back to Mexico, but they're waving Mexican flags and saying F the USA, and so you know it's one of those. Make it, make sense.

Speaker 5: 43:43

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 43:43

Right and you can't. There is no making sense of this because this is, uh, or orchestrated, this is instigated, this is encouraged, this is allowed by the um, the ruling class of California, and um, you know, you have people like Maxine waters saying idiotic thing I like when is this woman going to just go away? But take a listen, nobody was shot, nobody was killed.

Speaker 5: 44:11

Get it in your head and so, when martial law is called, what are you going to say? I missed the point. Don't miss the point. You all Don't think that somehow, because they called out the National Guard, there was violence. There was no violence. I was on the street, I know, and I went from downtown detention back out into the community talking to people what happened in Paramount, what happened in Compton, what happened in Inglewood? So first of all, get it straight and don't just rely on what you're being told or the few incidents that the few incidents, the few minor incidents.

Speaker 4: 44:53

You know, they're no big deal. And let's, let's not talk about the pallets of cinder blocks being dropped off, and let's not talk about the looting and rioting that's going on. And let's not talk about the you know, bricks and everything being thrown at police cars, and let's not talk about the burning down of everything in sight. Let's, let's not talk about any of those things. Let's, let's. You know, not, it's not happening. It's not happening. We're just making it up. Don't believe your own eyes, believe what Maxine waters tells you, because she is the one who knows what's going on, not us, not the people on the ground taking this video footage. None of those people, right? I mean oops, sorry, um, you know, don't't. Don't pay attention to any of that. You're just making it up, clay and it's, and she's not alone.

Speaker 1: 45:53

Um, you know that we talked about the media. It's hard to believe the media, and the media is chiming in. We're back to the mostly peaceful protests, like you know, during george floyd. Um, you know we've got aoc. You know there was a there. Um, you know we've got AOC. You know there was a.

Speaker 1: 46:07

There was another dumb one today by her. I think it was today, it might've been yesterday, but it was, like you know, it was deemed as like a few kids throwing rocks. Um, yeah, that's yeah. So you've got that. But then you've got, you know, the truthfully responsible adults, um, who are well supposed to be responsible adults. You've got Gavin Newsom, who's the governor, and you've got, you know, mayor Karen Bass, who is the mayor of LA. You know, and those two.

Speaker 1: 46:35

So, in a longer term policy decision issue, now, we can go back decades, but let's just talk in the in the most recent terms. You know, newsom is responsible for sanctuary city policy, he's, he's, you can go back to covid and figure out how much of a jackass he is, but but he is responsible for these types of policies within the state of California, right, this happens to be mostly in Los Angeles right now, which means it lands on Karen Bass's desk because she's the mayor and they're both not just denying this, they're advocating for these things to happen and they're allowing, they're sympathetic, right to the violent activities, even to the point of, you know, gavin Newsom submitted a lawsuit against President Trump for activating the National Guard, and we can talk about that more, but you know, they tried to put an injunction in against you know, bringing the National Guard in to stop this and protecting federal law enforcement, because that's really what the genesis of this is that federal law enforcement ice was in Los Angeles, los Angeles County, the greater area, and they were conducting, you know, arrest operations, raids and whatnot, and people got upset and they surrounded and attacked an ice detention facility and then they started attacking convoys and then they started attacking police cars and then, you know, and it just grew and grew and grew beyond the scope and capacity of the LA police and the LA County Sheriff's Department. So, you know, and Newsom sat there on his thumb and he didn't do anything and Karen Bass advocated for all this.

Speaker 1: 48:24

And you know it was the summer of love. They're all, they're just expressing their anger. And you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and we're siding with the immigrants. Ok, fine, except for the fact that it's not peaceful. There's nothing peaceful about this at all. Even from the very beginning, there was nothing peaceful about this from from Jump Street.

Speaker 4: 48:45

Yes, absolutely, and you know, violence is always the go-to with them. So, and it was caught in real time, and the simple fact of the matter that everyone should be, of course, paying attention to is the fact that the governor and the mayor of that state refused to protect the law keepers. That's a big deal. That's a problem, because if the law keepers decide, well, we're just going to let you, we're just going to let you go, just do whatever you want, that call would come a lot sooner than that. But you know what? I take that back. Actually, I take it back. Clearly, the call wouldn't have come. They would rather their citizens, their people, uh, lose their livelihoods, lose their, their homes, lose their lives, potentially. Um all because they're just mostly peaceful protests and they just need to express themselves. You know that that is basically them saying we, we want this, we want absolute anarchy and destruction and chaos and all of these things to happen, because there's no other way to look at it. You know they're allowing it. They're saying this is okay, we see the video footage. It's not AI, guys, it's real. And to call it isolated incidents and all of these things. And to call it isolated incidents and all of these things Again.

Speaker 4: 50:09

The term of the decade probably for these people is gaslighters. They are such gaslighters but you can't do it anymore. There are too many independent journalists, people who are out there with their phones and their cameras and they're recording it and they're uploading it and they're sharing it and we're all seeing it, and the people that are there are living it. So I don't know who they think they're gaslighting. You know, at this point, I mean there there's definitely people that are are buying what they're selling, but it's just crazy.

Speaker 1: 50:40

I've seen some shocking opinions on some of this. You know, very early on, when president Trump on, when President Trump said he was going to activate the National Guard, I saw people saying, well, I can't believe. I thought the GOP was for states' rights and the state should be allowed to handle this. Well, here's the problem is that's federal law enforcement that's under attack and you've got a governor who's not doing anything about it. So the president has a responsibility to take care of that, right? Oh, by the way, it didn't take a genius to figure out that this was going to escalate the way that it did. And the theory that bringing in the National Guard has escalated this. The National Guard was, you know, two or three days. This had been going on for two or three days before the National Guard even showed up. So that doesn't hold water either. And then you know the Marines have been. If you've ever been, 29 palms.

Speaker 1: 51:34

29 palms is about two hours or so from LA, in the middle of the frigging desert, and it is, and I was stationed at an army base that was not far from there, um, and it's two of the most miserable places on the planet, um, to be stationed in the military. And so you know they, they alerted two, seven Marines, second battalion, seven Marines, and and have moved them to LA, but they have not been employed yet. Understand that they are there, um, and but they, they have not been put into play yet. Uh, because people, cooler heads are prevailing and they're saying, okay, but they, they have not been put into play yet. Uh, because people cooler heads are prevailing and they're saying, okay, this has the potential to escalate. Because, let me tell you something, when they unleashed those Marines, um, it's going to get very interesting very, very quickly. Now, everybody LA, uh, police, la sheriff is all using non-lethal. No one in the middle of all of this, which is still baffling to me, has been shot with a real bullet. Nobody on either side Amazing.

Speaker 1: 52:31

Right, um, there have been a few reporters who have caught some um some, uh, non-lethal rubber bullets, some sandbag rounds. There's a lot of footage of that.

Speaker 4: 52:42

Yeah, that, uh, what I saw was the australian reporter she got pegged right in the leg, I think.

Speaker 1: 52:49

Yeah, I saw another one, uh, a reporter got, took a couple of rounds right to the chest, um, and yeah, so, um, so, you know this thing is not, uh, it's escalated, but I I would tell you it was going to escalate anyway. Um, I would tell you that bringing in the guard, uh, in the timing that they did, was appropriate. I think holding back the Marines is the right. You know kind of uh, you know scheme of maneuver at this point, but you know there've been some indicators in the midst of all of this.

Speaker 1: 53:22

Uh, the, the Walmart heiress right, has posted some things where, um, she has basically outed herself as being responsible for funding part of this. There is money. You've seen, I'm sure, the pickup truck that pulled up and a bunch of riot shields were offloaded and handed to the crowd. You showed the bricks and the cinder blocks all being pre-positioned, right. You know one that all takes money, right, and it all smells like Soros, and then it all takes coordination right. So this is not haphazard, this is not. You know, we thought of it two hours ago, kind of things.

Speaker 4: 54:06

Yeah, this wasn't a grassroots reaction. This was an orchestrated, planned everything.

Speaker 1: 54:13

Right and it's blowing into right. It's already started this Saturday, which is supposed to be the demonstrations across the country on no King's Day, which is what they're calling it. Right, all of these? Um you know protests and parades, but it's already. It's already escalating and starting in the major cities. Right, it's already reported in Chicago, it's already reported in New York where the riots started last night.

Speaker 1: 54:42

The demonstration started last night. They weren't even supposed to start until Saturday, but in reaction to what's going on in LA, the rest of the country is amping up. So we've got George Floyd kind of stuff going all over again and it's going to be a wild, wild weekend across the United States.

Speaker 4: 54:59

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it really is. And you know, this is all about optics for them. They want this. They don't care about any of the people, they don't care about the cause, they don't care about anybody. I'm talking about, of course, the people who are, who are funding all of this, just like they did all of the other ones. Trump's fault, you know. Look what happened on his watch. He couldn't even control his country. You know, everything fell apart on his watch. And you know this. This is covid 2.0, basically, well, we can't. We can't get them to buy into another manufactured virus, so we're just going to burn everything we're just going to.

Speaker 4: 55:48

We're just going to cause absolute chaos and destruction and all of that, and you know you're dealing with a different Trump now. You know, perfect example, national Guard Marines they're all on the ready. This should be and I believe it will be dealt with with swift action and I hope that's what he's going to do. I hope there's no hesitation on it. Um, because you can't. You can't allow this. It cannot be allowed.

Speaker 4: 56:13

Uh, you have to protect the, the innocent citizens in these cities who are, you know, there was that one video. The heart just infuriated and and broke my heart. It made me so angry. It was a young black woman. She gets out of her car and she's trying to reason with these jackasses that are blocking the road and not letting people pass through and she's trying to tell them I need to get to work. You know, my son, all those Like, oh, boo-hoo, you have to go to work. Yeah, just, I've said it to you before, clay, I pray, I pray, I pray that I never and the person in my vehicle being blocked by these people. It won't end well and I to face that, but that poor woman and everyone in those situations they're just trying to live, and these idiots are doing this.

Speaker 1: 57:12

Yeah, that actually happened in Chicago last night, very first night of riots in Chicago, and there was a car that you know. The police were trying to wave the car down, they were trying to direct it and I don't know who was driving it because it never stopped, but they tried to keep it going in one direction and it was like Nope, I got to go that way.

Speaker 1: 57:30

I don't care if there's people there or not, and they made a left hand, turn right into the crowd, bumped a few people, knocked them over, kept right on driving. Uh and, and you know, I think I know that they um, in California, they shut down. I don't know if it was the one-on-one or the one 10, but they, they shut down. I think it was a one-on-one. They shut down for about a half an hour One of them, the highways through the city. And again, that's who they're impacting. They're impacting the regular people that live in Los Angeles, trying to go to and from work, and and that's who gets affected.

Speaker 1: 58:02

I, I'll be honest with you, I struggled with this, I am, I am very much in the mindset, or have been, to just let it burn, but it's those people that suffer the most. Right, you know, it would be very nice if we could collectively back off, you know, and just tell Newsom and Bass hey, this is your problem. And then, you know, tell border patrol, hey, move into Nevada, move into, you know, arizona, don't let anybody in or out. You know that kind of thing. And just make Los Angeles Southern California and Island. But we can't do that. I mean, I wish we could, but we can't. You know, I think the best thing any governor could do right now is encourage, even offer incentives If you're in a state that's got the room and maybe you've got some opportunities for employment, maybe an incentive program to move businesses and people to move to uh to your state, um, you know that are honestly looking for for opportunities, but again, that's not going to work either.

Speaker 1: 59:12

So, um, you know this, this thing is going to run through the weekend, mostly because of this no Kings protest on Saturday. Uh, and I, I expect, truthfully, I expect the LA stuff to peak, probably tomorrow night and then taper off. But at the same time as it tapers off, you're going to see it go up, uh, in the other major cities and it's just going to be a mess. I really, really hope that Saturday, um, in Washington DC, that there is not an issue. Uh, and for those of you that aren't aware, saturday is the big 250th Army Birthday Parade, the military parade through downtown Washington DC.

Speaker 1: 1:00:04

And listen, folks, I don't like it. I think it's bad optics. I think there's a lot of other things we should be spending money on. Like you know, there's problems with barracks, maintenance and living conditions for soldiers and defense and all this other stuff. I think that the you know, the parade in DC is probably a bad call, but that's my personal opinion. What I really don't want is for one of these protests, these violent protests, to spill over into that event in Washington DC on the same day. That would be a horrible, horrible thing for the country, not just the people directly involved. It will look very bad. So let's all keep our fingers crossed and hopefully this thing de-escalates and doesn't get out of hand.

Speaker 4: 1:00:43

Yeah, yeah, absolutely it's. You know it's once again scary times and and I hope you know, nobody misses the irony that it's always in the summer. It's always how polite of them to you know, wait till the summertime, when the sun is shining and it's beautiful out, and, you know, never happens in the wintertime, does it? It happens, I mean I feel like it has no no, no joke.

Speaker 1: 1:01:06

Listen, we used to talk about this Afghanistan. It was a big thing. We called it the fighting season. Like the wintertime, everything, yeah, no joke. Like the altitude and the harshness of the winters in most places. So, like around late October and into November, you would start to see enemy activity go down and then, like in late February and, and you know, in early March it would start coming back up again, and that was the fighting season. You're right, it has everything to do with the weather. Um, and it's the same thing here. Like nobody likes to protest when it's sleeting outside, nope.

Speaker 4: 1:01:39

Nope, they don't. They're like they go home. They're like, oh, maybe next time, sorry, I can't make it for this one. Yeah, cause you, you know, like, oh, maybe next time, sorry, I can't make it for this one. Yeah, cause you, you know you're dealing with a percentage of the people that are doing this are paid to be doing these. These are paid actors, you know, not actors, but you know what I mean. Uh, paid to do these things and to and to cause this kind of chaos.

Speaker 4: 1:02:00

Then you have, you know, of course, the, the legitimate ones, your illegal aliens protesting, and then you have your, you know, virtue signaling white liberals. You know, you have, you gather this crazy mosh of people, and the one core thing that they have in common is that they're unhinged, you know, and they're easy to manipulate and they're easy to use for these purposes. So, you know, it just creates a perfect horrible storm. And, of course, that's where we're at. And, you know, I pray for our law enforcement across the country as they gear up and to prepare for this and to deal with these incidents. You, you know just, uh, god bless them and God keep them, and and their families, uh, who are, you know, rightfully, very concerned right now and, uh, really dreading this coming weekend. So, um, if you, if you know one, you love one. Um, think some good thoughts, for if you're not a praying kind, you know, think some good thoughts for them and let them know that you're thinking of them.

Speaker 4: 1:03:07

But we did it, clay. We did all of the topics. We were good man. It's like we're professionals or something. We've been doing this for almost two years now.

Speaker 1: 1:03:23

Yeah, yeah, august is. You know, let us, let us know if you kind of you know what you think of this kind of big topic. On the back half, again, a little change of format, you know, just let us know if it's, if you like it better this way or if you like it the other way. And you know, we always appreciate the feedback and the comments from everybody. Appreciate the feedback and the comments from everybody.

Speaker 4: 1:03:46

Absolutely, I'll say my piece, which is I hope you guys have a great rest of your week, a very safe, happy, fun, healthy weekend. Happy Father's Day to you, Clay, and all the dads out there. And yeah, that's kind of it for me. You go ahead and sign them off, sign them out, check them out, whatever I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:04:05

No, Elsa said it Everybody be safe this weekend. There is a lot of craziness going on and so, you know, be safe. I do plan on, you know, enjoying my father's day. I'm going to spend it with kids and my dad and my family and we're going to do what Novaks do and we're going to go do the American thing and go shoot guns. But, you know, be safe this weekend, and you know, if, if nothing else, remember in the back of your head if you get in a tight spot, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 3: 1:04:37

Warrior leader, author, patriot from Ranger School to the battlefield, from the front lines of combat to the front lines of culture. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Clay Novak isn't done fighting for truth. Catch him on the Elsa Kurt show and read his no holds barred blog at claynovakauthorcom. Keep moving, keep shooting.

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