Truth Bombs: Making Sense of Today's Headlines Without the Partisan Noise

We examine the Supreme Court's deportation ruling and how Trump-appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett's voting record reveals a commitment to interpreting law rather than following party lines, a principle even Trump acknowledges is proper judicial conduct.

• Trump's tariff strategy has prompted 75+ countries to seek negotiations with the US
• Market fluctuations from tariffs are temporary if people don't panic and sell
• The ultimate goal may be replacing income tax with tariff revenue, as the founders intended
• Nationwide "Hands Off" protests ironically embrace libertarian values of limited government
• Media manipulation is evident in coverage of tragic events and political discourse
• The View has hosted 63 guests this year with zero conservative voices
• Critical thinking requires seeking multiple perspectives beyond mainstream narratives

Follow Clay's social media for a big announcement about his book "Keep Moving, Keep Shooting" coming this Saturday!

Chapters

• 0:00 Show Introduction and Welcome
• 9:30 Supreme Court Deportation Ruling
• 26:49 The "Hands Off" Protests Movement
• 41:03 Trump's Tariffs and Economic Strategy
• 50:17 High School Tragedy and Media Response
• 59:42 Media Manipulation and Finding Truth

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's the Elsa Kirk Show, with Clay Nova Serving up trending news and conservative views Brought to you by the Elsa Kirk Collection and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:24

Well, hey there, how are you? Were you trying to speak a moment before that show started? Nice of me to call you out if you're going to cough or something so rude, so messed up Anyhow. Hello my partner, hello friends. How are you doing, Clay?

Speaker 4: 0:39

I'm good. How are you? I mean.

Speaker 2: 0:42

Clay, yeah, I am good. It's never a dull moment, right? No, there's never a dull moment. I mean it would be nice if there was a dull moment, I don't know. I guess not for us, because what the hell will we talk about? Right, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about ourselves, we'll talk about life, we'll talk about the weather, all the like normal things that normal people talk about. No, that's not what we're here for. Talk about things other than this stuff. You know, I can't, there's not a lot of people in my life that I can talk to about this stuff, so it's very like this is very cathartic for me.

Speaker 4: 1:17

I'm happy to be your therapist. Thank, you.

Speaker 2: 1:19

I appreciate you taking me down.

Speaker 4: 1:20

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Speaker 2: 2:21

Oh my goodness. So I mean obviously we have great stuff to talk about because I picked the stuff. So you know it's all good If I picked it. I don't even know what we'd be talking about if I picked them.

Speaker 4: 2:33

Listen, it is literally, you know, a scroll through on Tuesday morning. I'm like that and that and that it's not, it's there's no. There's no science to this folks. I just picked the things that I think we should talk about.

Speaker 2: 2:45

I love it. I love it Right off the bat. We're talking about this, and you know I mean surprise, surprise, the left is clutching their pearls again, and this time it's, you know, over the, the Supreme Court, daring, having the audacity to, you know, send awful criminals and horrible people back to the country where they came from, and came here illegally from. Yeah, crazy right.

Speaker 4: 3:08

Yeah, scotus, you know, not that long ago, four years ago, we had a little over four years ago we had a couple of new justices that took a lot of crap right. I mean, you remember the confirmation for for uh, Bryant and um, what's his name?

Speaker 2: 3:26

um oh um yeah, wow, I'm, I'm useless to you here, to the president's face, yeah, yeah the two that president trump put in the in the supreme court.

Speaker 4: 3:34

They, like they, have voted. She, actually, amy comey bryant, has voted, uh, favoring. You know, I guess the liberal side of things more often than she's voted conservative in the decisions. Very interesting, yeah. And so everybody thought that she was going to be, you know, a Trump plan and a pushover and just going to go party line and all this other stuff and, and you know the same, with boy we're, we're terrible. I can't remember this guy's name for the life of me.

Speaker 4: 4:03

But anyway, they thought that both of them were just going to go, you know, and it was just going to be 6-3, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3 on everything and it has. That is far from the truth. However, with this, specifically with the deportations there has been, it's been 5-4, pretty, you know, pretty evenly. But but you know, all these MS-13 folks and Trend Agua and all these get them out of here Exactly.

Speaker 2: 4:27

Listen. If people on the left want them to stay, so bad, I think they should open their doors to their homes and invite them to come stay with them, right? I mean, if they're that deeply affected by these, these people being deported, you know there's a solution, right?

Speaker 4: 4:41

Yeah, listen, we've all been saying that. We've been saying that, for you know the four years of the Biden administration. You know everybody. You know defending the open borders and defending illegal immigrants and all that other stuff. But that's some limousine liberal crap right there. None of them are going to open their door, give their spare room or their pool house, you know, to a family or individual illegal immigrants. Do you remember when they hit Martha's Vineyard?

Speaker 2: 5:04

Oh yeah, less than 24 hours, less than 24 hours before they were out. Who's who sent them over? I mean, I know it was during the Trump administration, but somebody specifically oh uh, desantis. Ron DeSantis was the one that.

Speaker 4: 5:17

Yeah, I think, desantis, it wasn't. It wasn't Texas, it was Florida that sent the Martha's Vineyard Yep.

Speaker 2: 5:26

Brett.

Speaker 4: 5:27

Kavanaugh, by the way, I had to look it up. There you go. It's driving me crazy. But yeah, I mean so, yes, we would we love for them to put their money where their mouth is and say, oh, I'll protect these people, I'll do this, I'll do that. We would love for them to do that, but they won't. So you know, unfortunately, the Supreme court had to get involved and, and you know, they ruled on the side of what is just and right. Let's not say it's on the side of the president. They ruled on the side of what is just and right.

Speaker 2: 5:52

You know, I'm glad you said that, because that's kind of been my thought process here. You know, would would I like to have seen her vote differently? Yeah, of course. But I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt here and say that they are interpreting the law to the best of their ability and that is what they are basing their vote on, their opinions on, and I feel the need to trust that that's the case, not that she's being a traitor to Trump, because I don't want her loyal. I don't want any of them loyal to Trump or to any. I mean, none of us should want that, and I'm sure you see it too.

Speaker 2: 6:30

I see it all over the place calling her a traitor and you know a bad choice and all of those things. And you know you do have to have that moment where you go hang on a second. Do you want somebody to just be a puppet for whoever's in charge? You know, because that works both ways. You know whoever's next is going to get that same thing going on. So you know, just, I like to have hope. I don't know if I necessarily have faith in that. We don't put our faith in people, but, yeah, my expectation is is that this is how she was interpreting the law and that was why and how she voted the way she did.

Speaker 4: 7:07

And she's and she's been treated horribly. I saw a thing, you know, an AI image where they had her all tatted up with MS-13 tattoos all over her face and it's like come on, people, like I've been saying it, I hate party line voters, I hate them. It's totally contradictory to what the foundation of our republic is about, and nowhere is that more lot about in the last few months is packing the court, or we haven't heard about forcing, you know, retirements and and these sorts of things. There's been none of that, you know, to try and even the courts out, because, oh, by the way, brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Bryant have been interpreting the law and and is, you know, often been going against the wishes of the president, and you know what the president says. That's okay.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Yes, yes, and I love that he came out and said that. That made me so proud of him in that moment. That is the correct and proper response and that's the one that should trickle down to all the armchair podcast hosts and critics and real podcast hosts and all of those Anybody really, who's commenting on all of this? You don't know. You're not sitting in there behind those closed doors and you're certainly not sitting there pouring over all of these documents and the Constitution and weighing all of these things like you're not doing it. So maybe reserve the, the, the you know the fire there for a minute.

Speaker 4: 8:49

Yeah, and so here, you know, there, you, you hit it there, there, um, you know, clerks are like triple overtime right now because, because of all of these and not you know simple, there's a lot of terms floating around out there. You know, radical, radical judges, all these. You know the high end appointed judges, appeals judges who are putting you know injunctions on basically everything President Trump does. Yeah, we talked last week about the guy who was, quote unquote, erroneously or wrongfully deported and you had that. That lower level judge jumped in and said you have to bring him back, and I think it was Kavanaugh who jumped in and said nope, right, but like that to me, scotus has so many other things to worry about than overruling stupidity at the lower levels below them.

Speaker 4: 9:42

And listen landmark cases, big stuff, constitutional law all of that stuff is super, super important. They're going to get consumed and their offices are going to get consumed by all of this stuff below them. They just ruled on the 16,000 probationary employees. Yes, it was okay for the president to fire them. Why does that have to go to the Supreme Court?

Speaker 2: 10:04

Yeah, it's kind of crazy and, you know, my guess would be that this is obviously something you know to some degree deliberate keep them tied up, keep them busy, keep them, you know, scattered. Basically, you know, and it's a tough call because you know these activist judges do need to be put in their place. This is, they are acting out of the scope of their right to act. So it does have to be something.

Speaker 4: 10:30

It's just oh, somebody's got to draw the line somewhere, right, yeah, and again, folks, I am not saying that this is only wrong because it's happening to President Trump. Right, and it happened with conservative judges against President Biden okay this. And it happened with conservative judges against President Biden OK, we have a checks and balance system, but no single appointed judge should have the power to stop what the president is doing. There are a lot of this has to do with the fact that our bureaucracy moves so slow, but you know, the president's in general use have been using and abusing executive orders, um, and so they put those in place, and then they take action, and then you've got judges who weigh in, and then there's appeals, and then you know, and it's like and we're at the point where you literally have singular judges who stopped the president.

Speaker 4: 11:20

That's not the way this is supposed to work, right, but there's a lot of steps in here that are messed up. Right, it's overuse of the executive order, it's all of those things, and I think, personally, the end state of Doge in the reduction of the size of our federal government is going to do nothing but make it more efficient, and it's going to cut a lot of this crap out of the way I wish. I wish we could cut this truthfully, cut the size of Congress, because that's where part of the problem is. I know that's blasphemy, because the constitution is what it is and I and I believe that it is one of the perfect documents, but that's where the hangups are.

Speaker 2: 11:58

And I know it's by design.

Speaker 2: 12:00

You can only imagine that there's such a deliberateness behind the tying up of everything so that President Trump can't get done the things that he wants to do. I mean, that's obviously the whole purpose behind everything that goes on behind the scenes. And, of course, why don't they want this to happen? Because they like having their pockets lined and they, like you know, operating in the dark and getting away with everything they've gotten away with, because there's no, you know, there's no. You can say all day that it's simply because they hate Trump and of course they do, and that is part of it, but there's so much more at stake than just orange man bad.

Speaker 2: 12:40

You know, these are people that are about to lose a lot of money, a lot of power, and they don't like that. That makes them mad, you know, because if anybody actually stopped and I mean talking about, not talking about them, I'm talking about the, the minions, basically the people that march around, you know, with their little signs and their angry voices If they actually stopped for a minute and thought about what's actually happening, that you know, not only is, is the Trump administration trying to give back the States, therefore the people, back their power where it belongs and and decision-making, which is, you know, in their minds. That's what they're arguing for, but they're technically arguing for more big government, federal government, involved in their lives, making decisions for them, like the stupidity of what they are actually arguing against is constantly mind blowing to me.

Speaker 4: 13:32

Yeah, I mean there's lists of the things that they're arguing against, but at the root of it all, for me, my opinion is is it? It's what facilitates all of it? Is big gov, right? Right, because they do it is they want a nanny state, they want government control. They want big gov. They, they want decisions made for them. They, you know they don't, and and at the upper echelons, they don't trust americans to make decisions for themselves. They don't trust. You know they think this is that. You know there's 50 ways. You know there are 50 examples of this and you can talk. Voter ID law is the perfect one. There's literally no reason. You know the made up reason is oh, you know, poor people can't. You know, they have such a hard time getting identification. So, so fix the identification process, right, right, like what you've got. You know, every two years we have an election day. How about for those two years in between elections? You work to fix the identification.

Speaker 2: 14:28

Yeah, If that was the the real problem that they really well, if that was what they really believe to be the problem. There's your solution, and that is so par for the course of what they do, they pick out or create problems. Never a solution, Never, ever will you see a solution to a problem come from these people. They don't want the problem solved. It's like it really is that simple, Like if you took it down to bare bones, right? If the problems are solved, if the people are self-sufficient, if they don't need government to give them their cell phone or their you know groceries or any of those things, they're out of a job.

Speaker 4: 15:13

That's it, and listen it's, it's big pharma. Big pharma treats people. They don't care anybody. It's the same thing, right? This is. It's the same mentality, you know, and government dependency is what they want. Government dependency is what you know and that's why there was the all of the illegal immigration, which is what SCOTUS just flipped over, right as we can start or continue to deport all these people. But it was all about, you know, and they've readily admitted it now, like it's been, it's come out a couple of times now that the entire purpose behind that was to bring them to the United States to overload you, to overload districts and get enough voters in to keep Democrats in office. That's all it was. We all knew that's what it was. But now it's been really kind of out there, and so thankfully we're fixing those kinds of things and shrinking the government with Doge and hopefully we can get rid we'll never get rid of the nanny state mentality, but hopefully we can at least reduce the nanny state to a manageable level reduce the nanny state to a manageable level.

Speaker 2: 16:06

Yeah, I just think that you know more people need to educate themselves and be aware of you know the expenses that the, the money that's going out to you know God knows where. I think there was just a. They just put it out there a big a graph the numbers of illegal aliens collecting social security, right, did you see that? No, it's like it's insane. I'll try and find it, if I find it, I'll put it up there and everything. But the numbers are wild, it's just wild.

Speaker 4: 16:33

Listen, there's plenty of examples. You know our favorite, our new favorite idiot, jasmine Crockett. See this Supposedly her grandmother has been dead for over 10 years and they just forgot to tell the social security office and have been cashing checks.

Speaker 4: 16:49

I did not see that I've seen it Listen, that was. That was one of those that initially, when I saw it, I was like this is crap, it's bogus, it's whatever. But I've seen it in enough places and enough different sources that there is some validity to it. So you know Um. So you know it's, um, it's everywhere, like that kind of stuff's everywhere and we just got it. You know, doge has just got to keep digging and I'm all for it.

Speaker 2: 17:10

Yeah, same here and they need to keep exposing it. At some point these people have to actually look at it. Although you know, I've seen people plenty of times. You, you hand them and I know you've seen it too, we've all seen it it you hand them facts, documented, verifiable facts, and they're like nope, don't want to hear it, orange man, bad End of story. And it's like I mean, I don't know how much more you know. I guess you don't care about your money, I guess you don't care about your home. You know that's what they like to say to us, right, you know? Oh, I guess you don't care about women, I guess you don't care about trans people, suicide rates, Like that's what they. They try and guilt.

Speaker 4: 17:46

So maybe if we turn that around a little bit, they just had a whole day of protests about it, Elsa.

Speaker 2: 17:51

What they did, yeah Right, I hadn't heard a thing about it.

Speaker 4: 17:59

So, if someone can tell me because I saw probably a dozen different signs like topics, not different signs, different topics on different sides, right For hands off. Now, you think initially hands off would be the hands off my body, women's, you know it would be an abortion rally, whatever it is. So it was so broad. Beyond that, it was hands-off education. It was hands-off. I mean, it was every you know everything, which is amazing because that's libertarian right, like that, this. Now they're protesting. Now they're protesting as as libertarians, they want less government impact on their lives, which I think is what we've all been trying to work towards, right yeah, it's like okay, thank you.

Speaker 2: 18:52

That's literally what we've been saying thank you for agreeing with us. Angrily, I mean, I it's so. You have to laugh like you. You have to laugh at this, you, you have to laugh at this. It's too absurd to even believe like okay. So what was one of them? Hands off our kids yeah, we agree with you. Get your hands off our kids. Teach them reading and math, take out gender studies, like. Leave our kids the hell alone. How about that? Look, yay, we all agree, so exciting. Hands off our bodies, or protect women. You're like which one is it? I don't even know. We can agree with that too. Get men out of women's locker rooms how about that? Protect them Common sense. It sounds like we're agreeing it about time again, I I honestly don't know.

Speaker 4: 19:47

Yeah, what if there is a consistent thread through all of these? I I don't understand what it is, because it seems like there's just a big label plastered on it and really what it is is anti, anti-trump, yes, okay, fine, if that's what it is, just call it that. Like, let's not make it something. It's not right. Um, so you know, and it happened. I think all 50 states was it. Did it happen? Did it hit it all?

Speaker 2: 20:11

I think it hit them I'm not even sure to tell you truth. I mean quite a few. I know. You know there's, so you know there's so much side stuff that goes on. You know people getting caught like somebody shared what they claim to be um a video in a video of this massive and I'm not saying that they weren't big, but basically it looked like I don't even know. Well, it looked like a Trump rally is what it looked like, because there were so many people and then somebody you know did like a reverse AI lookup on it and they're like, yeah, nice, try, that's from you know, whatever something else you know, so a lot of those to make it look bigger.

Speaker 2: 20:47

A lot of videos of I think that Laura Loomer, I think, is her name, has video of them busing protesters in with their pre-made signs and you know their corporate sponsors and all of that stuff. There's a video I saw of a guy when he was being interviewed. They're like, well, what are you? What are you angry about? What do you? What hands off? And he pulls out his piece of paper and he's like oh, we, we are angry because you can't. Just you don't know why you're angry. You've got to read why you're angry, funny.

Speaker 4: 21:19

Yeah, there's a. I saw another one. I saw those, the reverse AI lookup. I thought was amazing, that was perfect, like, again, we're, we're finding great uses for AI. Um, that was one of them. I know you know some of like they were. There was a couple of them that were like um, were the parades for, like, sporting events, like those kinds of you know Um, so, yes, there was a lot of fabrication to that. Yes, there was a lot of like, take the photo from a certain angle, you get the AOC effect, you know. Yes, like, oh, my God, look at all these people and actually it's like 14. But I did see another thing.

Speaker 4: 21:50

There was a lady who was like you know, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to jump in on this. She's a conservative and she's like, I'm just going to pretend that I'm a protester. And so she, through through a contact or two, she kind of got some information about these protests, about the you know the hands off marches or whatever they were, and so she followed some instructions and it was like okay, show up, don't wear anything red, like. So there was guidance, right, yeah, no, red hats, but no, really nothing red, you know, blah, blah. So she's like okay. So I just dressed in black, black top and bottom and they're like okay. So when you get there at this corner, you know. Finally, if there's a lady there with blue hair and a nose ring and she's like well, I figured everybody was going to have blue hair and a nose ring.

Speaker 4: 22:37

And she goes, but the lady was particularly easy to find. So the lady said I brought my own sign and she said it was very innocuous. It was, I think, hands off our education, or something like that. And then so the lady there with the blue hair and the nose ring was like okay, you need to go to this location, you need to walk this path and then, at the end, see this person and you'll get paid. So there is right, there was some truth. We're starting to get some traction on what we all again knew to be true back on 2020, back in the Antifa stuff. You know that, that these are paid protesters and people will do anything for a buck. So you know, this is again. If it was an anti-Trump protest, just let it be an anti-Trump protest, right. Why put another name on it?

Speaker 2: 23:23

And you know, again, it's, it's preying on these people are preying on because there were, there were quite a few people, you know, we don't want to minimize that, there were people there of their own volition, because they really believe in you know, their cause of the moment absolutely out of their minds, hysterical yelling and shaking their fists and waving their signs and the mental illness oozing off of them.

Speaker 2: 23:53

And you know, and these are the people I actually, I really feel for them because they are their brains, their minds are so warped, they are so angry and they don't even understand why they're angry. Like it's scary to watch that's the part to me that's scary to watch that they have been so unbelievably brainwashed into this mentality, this rage mentality, and they just, they just keep feeding, feeding the mental illness and and loving it and enjoying it, enjoying it and, you know, throwing a few bucks out and whatever that means. And I think I also heard I don't know if you heard this that not necessarily all the protests, but there was a particular one where I apparently, like it hit a certain time of the day and like everybody just packed up and left, like this massive cohort, they just clocked out, clicked on the back of the dinosaur in their car, pedaled away.

Speaker 2: 24:49

Exactly that was I. I'm I'm ready to sing the Flintstones theme right now. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 24:57

So I have no doubt whatsoever. You know, I and I've seen a few clips of, you know, people walking and filming, you know, and then, of course, somebody in a mask, always somebody in a mask, you know, comes up to filming you know.

Speaker 4: 25:05

and then, of course, somebody in a mask always somebody in a mask, you know comes up to him and says who are you, what are you doing here? And it's like I'm just filming, you know. And then all of a sudden they get shepherded away from the protest, you know kind of thing, which is always funny, you know, in my younger days I would have been that person walking around with a red hat on you know, like just to antagonize people. But you're right, the level of mental illness and then the you know commensurate level of violence associated is way out of control. If you walk through any, if you walked anywhere near one of those things with a MAGA hat on, you are you are risking bodily harm.

Speaker 2: 25:44

You are, absolutely, you're, absolutely. There was just um, you know, and that is their, their go-to, physical violence is their go-to, because and you see it over and over again there was just a, a young woman, a pro-life um advocate, or I don't know if she has a podcast, you must and she was interviewing people on the street and, uh, she was a woman came up and they were having a heated, heated exchange and the woman just couldn't take it anymore and she sucker punched her, she just popped her right in the face. You see, that one.

Speaker 4: 26:14

There was actually two of them, so I don't know which one. There was two of them and it was. I think in both cases it was abortion, was the you know the issue. It was abortion was the you know the issue and it literally was. So somebody was like, well, wait a minute, you know, and they just they challenged some of the you know lies associated, you know, they've been associated for decades with the entire argument and and literally, because they couldn't, you know these women couldn't defend against you know logic and their reflex was close fist boom, punch the lady right in the face.

Speaker 2: 26:47

Yeah, yeah, that's that is time and again, that is the go-to, and you know, and, and it's this is why we say all the time, not so that that kind of confrontation happens. But this is why we talk about we being people on the right. Talk about facts, knowing your facts, being able to argue any topic, anything that they might come at you with, with their feelings, and ask them to counter it. Ask them to counter the facts, like here. Here is a fact. Like I understand your feelings, like I have feelings too, you know, I mean, we all have feelings, but they don't make things true. Just because you feel something doesn't make it's true. Facts make things true and they can't. They can't do it. They can't do it, so they go straight to rage and they can't do it because they haven't been taught how to do it.

Speaker 2: 27:39

These are people that have come through you know these, and I'm not. I'm kind of bashing public school system, um, but I'm more bashing the on the college level, on the university level, because it's that's where it really, I think, manifest the most. Um, that's just the breeding ground. Like they have truly, completely gotten them away from the parents, the influence of the parents, and now the indoctrination is just going to go. We're going hard and full force at it.

Speaker 2: 28:06

And you see so many times like people, girls in particular it seems like girls in particular, and there's whole reasoning behind that. You see those I'm sure you've seen them those like first day of college pictures, and they just look fresh faced and ready to take on this next adventure in life. And then you see them at the end of their college or maybe in the middle of their college experience, and they are a shell of themselves. You know, they've chopped off all their hair. Now they think they're a boy. They've got everything pierced and their hair whatever's left of it is blue and it's like oh, how can we not connect the dots here? Like the dots?

Speaker 4: 28:47

are very easy to connect. All you have to do is look at the evolution of Rachel Maddow.

Speaker 2: 28:50

Oh my goodness, that's a great example. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: 28:55

Beautiful young lady, blonde hair, truthfully doesn't even look like what we see today. So crazy to me as a, as a young girl, I think, probably like the earliest picture you normally get is maybe like end of high school or maybe early in college, so she's in that 18, 19 ish range and then evolution of of what happens to her physically right, exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, but you know it's. It does start in high school. You know you have teachers who are police, you have teachers who have an agenda and then in the classroom it becomes very. You know kids who want to speak out. They get shunned and shut down.

Speaker 2: 29:30

Yeah, and they get physically attacked as well.

Speaker 4: 29:33

And they do, and then, and then, when it gets to college, you know, but then they still have parents to stick up for them, right, you know. And then, but you're right, they get to college and they're kind of on their own. And you know, I totally disagree with the idea of a college professor throwing you out of class because you're a paying customer, like you know and listen, I got thrown out of class as a freshman in a math class because we had a teacher who, literally, for the first seven classes, bought the exact same problem. Like he didn't even change the numbers in the problem. Yeah, so, and like the seventh class, seventh time hearing this, I'm sitting next to this girl and we just start talking because we've seen this six times already. He turned around and you know, he, you know, pointed me out what are you talking about? Stop talking to class. I was like you've taught us this seven. And he threw me out of class and I was like, so, like, as a paying customer, I I'm totally opposed to that at the collegiate level, but you're right it, it totally destroys the idea of discourse.

Speaker 4: 30:34

Grown up, you know, rational discussion without emotion, without animation, that a teacher and instructor, professor, should sit back and moderate and not participate in Right Right and make sure that both sides are being expressed civilly with. You know intent and intention and and, and they moderate that and, but that's not being done. So you know what I get it. People misunderstand the difference between opinion and if you're stating your opinion is fact, right, I have opinions on a lot of things, I post them all the time. People come after me for my opinion and they're like prove that. I'm like, I don't have to, it's my opinion, right, right. Well, such and such and such and such, prove it Like. I don't have to prove it, it's my opinion, right, that's what you and I do. We're pundits, right, and we speak. We're not news reporters. We've said this a thousand times on this show, but people mistake that and that's part of the problem as well.

Speaker 2: 31:28

So yeah, absolutely. That's a great point and that's so true. You know we can state a fact about something and then discuss our opinion on it, like Amy Bear Cohen. You know there's fact and then there's opinion and, like you said, we can have whatever opinion on it that we want. You can you being the viewer or listener, whichever the case is you can disagree with it, it's all good. I've never had a time where I've felt like you know, I'm going to say these things and everyone has to agree with me. Like can you, can you imagine, just like imagine for a moment having that mindset, like I can't even wrap my brain around being that arrogant, first of all, that I would think that my opinion is the only right one. Like I, I'm fine with saying I could have something wrong, I could have a lot of things wrong and I don't mind listening to other perspectives. You know, you give me back up your argument if you want to, and you know, and if I want to, I'll back up mine, but no requirement to. We're just not.

Speaker 4: 32:28

No, I don't work for you.

Speaker 2: 32:29

No, yeah, I love when people, I love when people in comment sections right Show me your facts, show me, show me the article you got that from, dude, do your own research.

Speaker 4: 32:38

Yeah, and again, I owe you nothing If I'm expressing my opinion. I owe you and unfortunately, you know kind of where we started all this is. You get into a violent response when you don't give them what they want, when you disagree, you provide an opposing opinion or you don't, you know, abide by their wishes. That's what you get as a violent response. You know, like these ladies that we were talking about, and unfortunately you know, going back to the idea of walking with a red hat in the middle of these, you know hands off protests. You know you're going to get, you're going to get messed up, because that is the reflex now.

Speaker 2: 33:13

Yes, yeah, yeah, very different reflex and response when the shoe is on the other foot. Oh, very different. Yeah, mostly peaceful protests. You remember those? Oh, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. My favorite was always that one with the riots and that she's I don't know if it was a man or woman reporter saying, but the mostly peaceful, and literally behind them burning, burning down like flames, shooting up smoke, and people running back and forth with, like you know, giant TVs on their shoulder, like mostly peaceful, with, like you know, giant TVs on their shoulder, like mostly peaceful. Okay, we believe that.

Speaker 4: 33:54

And listen. There's plenty nowadays that there's a visceral reaction to, you know, and, and the ever evolving one is, you know, is the tariffs. And, and you know I'm far from an economist but I, you know, I understand common sense. I do understand the economy. I am not a studied, deep studied economist, you know. So I guess you know. The question is, I'll ask you first, how do you think this is going? I mean, this is president Trump's brain trust, this is his baby. What do you think?

Speaker 2: 34:20

Yeah, so I mean, I've been for all along simply on the premise of why? Why are we getting taken advantage of the way that we are? From these other countries? This seems like a matter of course, and yes, it's, you know, scary to a degree. You know you're talking, but we're talking about our money. We're talking about how we spend on things.

Speaker 2: 34:41

I get all of that, but at the same time there's there has to come a point where you actually literally do put America first, and if that means buying American, getting companies to come back here that have left and investing in America, I'm willing to take the hit short and wait it out, and, and I'm even less than you involved in understanding the all of that stuff. Like I, I actually recoil from it that I don't even like. You know I'd like to be like you know the, the, the old school foreigners that used to stick money under the mattress. You know what I mean. Like, if it was up to me, that's how I would live. Like if I can't see it in my hand, it doesn't exist. Like that's how old school I would prefer to be. I'm not a risk taker financially, None of it. I want zero to do with any of it. I just like to, I get a little black and white with it. I like what feels like common sense to me and this feels like common sense to me.

Speaker 2: 35:40

And you know, and I think I'm probably kind of right here, because I think the number is up to like 75 countries now want to come to the table and talk to president Trump. And you know, and he's been very like, just hang tight, folks, hang tight, just hunker down for a minute. And I think major people like who, Dave Ramsey, I think, Suze Orman are all saying the same thing. They're like calm down, it's going to be fine. This is not the first time that the market has fluctuated, where we've had drops, and we've had worse ones than this. And the minute he says, you know, I think it was today it jumped up again because he put it out there that these countries want to come to the table and have a conversation. Now, you know, China, of course, is the big one and I got you know, no pun intended, but I got my money on Trump, on this.

Speaker 4: 36:34

Yeah, and that's you know. You know me, I'm not a Crenshaw fan. He said the same thing Don't bet against President Trump. You know so today. You know Crenshaw supports Trump.

Speaker 4: 36:38

So note that today, by the way, wednesday, we're a little early today, yes, were 3.30 East Coast time, a little earlier than normal. But the tariffs, you're right, there's a level of fairness associated with this. We get tariffs imposed on us and we don't reciprocate with other nations, right, there's not a lot of fairness there, because we've allowed it to happen, or it's been a tool of diplomacy in the past, which you know. That's what part of this is. That's what people lose sight of. They think this is a completely financial decision, and it's not. You know, in some cases it is, but in most cases this is about diplomacy and this is about a message to, you know, the EU. Specifically. It's a message to China, it's a message to others out there that we, you know, we aren't going to be taking advantage of, financially or otherwise.

Speaker 4: 37:36

So you know, I am on board with that. I am on board with the fact that the market has always recovered. The fact that the market has always recovered. Okay, every single time the market has come back. What I hate the most about this is the media, and you know people who don't listen. Only 8% of the United States is invested in the stock market. Let's not turn this into this. You know like the whole world is ending for our entire population, because it's not, but you only lose money on the stock market if you sell below what you bought it at, and that's why all of these economists and the president are saying just wait.

Speaker 4: 38:16

Settle down, hang on. Oh, by the way, if you have the ability and they've all come out, including the president, have all come out and said this this is not a rich person's secret.

Speaker 4: 38:26

This is reality. If you have the means to buy right now, buy Because it's low right now. They acknowledge that they knew this was coming right. So invest now if you have the ability right, and then the market's going to rebound and it's going to increase your value. But everybody who keeps saying oh, he's lost people thousands of dollars in their retirement, oh, tens of thousands of dollars, Only if they panicked.

Speaker 2: 38:51

I was just going to say only if they panicked, right.

Speaker 4: 38:52

Yeah, If they panicked and sold right.

Speaker 2: 38:55

Here's my favorite thing right now about President Trump and his level of consistency on who he is and who he says he is and how he feels about things. He has been talking about this for decades decades that we're getting taken advantage of, and how he would do it differently and what he would do and you know, I'm I'm so. He's had this plan for a very, very long time, even if it was just a, you know, a dream and an idea at one point to to see this come to fruition. So this isn't just a. He woke up one morning and said I'm going to slap some tariffs on people, like shut up people. That's not the case.

Speaker 4: 39:33

And his theory in all of this is that we go back to free income tax. Yes, that all of these tariffs incoming goods pay to run our government. Yes, you don't have to have federal income tax or we have an extremely low income tax for everyone. Right, and listen. There are people are going to be angry about that. They're always going to say rich people should pay, you know, to fund poor people, whatever. But the reality is is that this is tied together in the president's brain. Tariffs are not just a diplomatic tool. They're not just an economic tool to bring business back to the United States. They're also a tool to pay for our government, the operation of our government, to relieve that burden from the average citizen.

Speaker 2: 40:18

And who could possibly not agree at this point that we aren't taxed to death? We are so taxed to death at this point that we aren't taxed to death. We are so taxed to death Like probably the biggest reason why I would say everybody, just settle down and give it a hot damn minute to see how this is going to play out, cause I think we're going to win on this.

Speaker 4: 40:36

Yeah, our founding fathers would have been burning stuff by now. Absolutely the amount of taxes that we're paying.

Speaker 2: 40:41

No question about it. Yeah, no question about it.

Speaker 4: 40:43

Washington DC would have looked like Southern California. It would have been lit, I mean, to the ground. You know, 200 years ago. So you know the tariffs. I think again does it on paper. Look, you know, a little bad right now. Sure, it does.

Speaker 4: 40:59

Right, we're in this trade war with China, I think just before we started recording, it bumped up again, president. He's like a guy at an auction like you're going to go 84. I'm going 125. You know what I mean. And that's China. But you're right, there's been 75-ish at this point, countries who've said, hey, let's talk about this, right and good. But you've got. You know, the other side of this is bringing all of this industry capability back to the United States, and good.

Speaker 4: 41:29

So I think you know the short sighted folks are panicked. I think those patients and who've been through these things before at least have an understanding. You know, they know to play the long game and it's all going to turn out. I have faith that it is going to turn out the way the president, you know, has planned it. You know the outlier is China and I don't, truthfully, I don't. I don't think they really care about the economic impact.

Speaker 4: 41:51

Yeah, so many assets that it doesn't even matter to them. We could probably. We could probably tariff them for 400% and they wouldn't care. I mean, they would be upset but the money wouldn't matter. They pay the tariffs, but they, you know we just turn into a, you know, pissing contest. So, but I think everything else, including the EU, you know they're all going to come around. I did see an interesting one, a young lady, english English, yeah, she's English. She predicted that these tariffs will be the end of the EU, interesting, you know, obviously, the Brits, and Brexit and all that stuff. They've had their day. But she foresees this to be a point of argument within the EU where many member nations are going to go let's go negotiate, and then you'll have a number that will be of the opposite mindset and it has the potential to over fine, you know, over financial decisions break the EU apart over these tariffs.

Speaker 2: 42:47

Very interesting.

Speaker 4: 42:48

Yeah, never thought of that one.

Speaker 2: 42:53

No, no, I definitely wouldn't. I can tell you that right now I definitely would have never even thought of it. Fascinating stuff. So I mean, obviously we're going to keep watching that and see what happens, and and I I really hope to have one of our favorite I told you so moments. I would really like to have that. So, president Trump, if you could get on that and give us the I told you so moment, we would much appreciate. Oh, my goodness, what are we moving on to next, clay? Oh, this one. This is so heartbreaking. I just, you know, as a parent, uh, as a parent whose kid played sports, I know you can relate to that as well. I this is not something you could ever imagine happening. It is so senseless. I just, and then more senseless senselessness after. Is the the senselessness after. Is the public reaction right? What's going on? That it's politicized, that it's all of the things. I'm I'm a little bit speechless, play I, I'm just so sad by this.

Speaker 4: 43:57

So, for those of you that aren't tracking, um, high school tech, texas high school track meet and I ran for four years in high school and I can tell you they are for families the most boring thing, uh, is for high school sporting event, right For the minute, two minutes, four minutes, whatever that your kid is running, yeah, that's it. The other nine hours that these things take are like paint drying. So, truthfully, a lot of parents, a lot of family members, they'll go there watch their child compete. Sure, right, because again, you know it's it's, it is what it is. Um, so in this case, uh, a young male, uh, white athlete, was sitting in the bleachers at a track meet and his name escapes me, but a young male, black athlete.

Speaker 2: 44:42

Was that Austin Metcalf, I think.

Speaker 4: 44:44

Austin Metcalf, the young male black athlete, and I only remember his name because his name is Carmelo Anthony, which would give that former NBA player, but his name is spelled with a K, if I remember correctly. So Carmelo Anthony, for whatever reason you know, basically says to this kid he says, hey, I'm sitting there, you're in my seat or you need to move over, or whatever. And it was, like you know, a minor altercation over a seat in the bleachers and, and you know, carmelo Anthony goes and he gets a knife and he stabs this kid to death right there in the bleachers. Yeah, and he dies over a seat in the bleachers. Like this is a stupid level of violence over absolutely nothing. Right, and I think that this goes back to the, you know, the youth of America not comprehending their actions for a number of reasons. But the reaction by the public is what's?

Speaker 2: 45:39

truly disgusting about this entire thing. Yeah, it really is. It really is. It's so disheartening, it's so predictable and maybe that's the part that frustrates me the most. It's like it's so predictable.

Speaker 2: 45:51

There's one side, you know, calling it a race issue and screaming about not screaming, but you know basically saying, oh, if the shoe was on the other foot, you know this would be talked about and they're not wrong on that, by the way. You know the media would be talking about this to no end. And the flip side of that is they're saying that this kid, carmelo, was being bullied and blah, blah, blah. And now they've got to go fund me for him and it's raised, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars. And there's this side and that side and everybody's, you know, just arguing over this.

Speaker 2: 46:25

You know I'm trying to say the word this BS of all of it, and there may be parts where you know both sides are right about what they're saying and what their perception is of what happened, but it doesn't change the fact that a family has just horrifically lost their son in one of the most senseless acts that you could possibly have happen to your child, to your family. I think he died in his twin brother's arms. I don't know Right. I think he died in his twin brother's arms. I don't know Right.

Speaker 4: 47:04

That makes me so ill that that poor boy is going to live with that memory for the rest of his life that family is is destroyed, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 47:09

And then you know, for this kid, carmelo Anthony, he just ruined his life. His life is potentially essentially over in a very different way, of course. I mean, he certainly has, you know, life that he can live. So much is happening with that right now that, I think, reflects so poorly on us as a people, right.

Speaker 4: 47:34

So the GoFundMe was up over 600,000, but that was for Carmelo Anthony's defense folks. So that's what was being raised. I heard today, like about an hour or so before we went on, that that GoFundMe has been shut down.

Speaker 2: 47:49

Really.

Speaker 4: 47:50

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 47:51

Interesting.

Speaker 4: 47:52

I don't know if that's true or not. I didn't have a chance to confirm it. Yeah, but that's an interesting move by GoFundMe if it's been shut down.

Speaker 4: 48:01

Because they're usually Well, they're usually like as long as you're not endorsing criminal activity or participating in criminal activity, they're like, hey, whatever Right. And so, on the surface of this, that's not what this is. And again, folks, I had not had the ability to confirm that, but I did hear that. So there was but the reaction by society that says you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars for his defense, or killing another child over a seat in the bleachers. Listen, you can say bullying all you want. Listen, you can claim racism all you want, but unless there was a violent act that precipitated this, that initiated this, that you know Metcalf started that, that you know Carmelo Anthony was in fear for his life, which does not appear to be the case there is no excuse.

Speaker 4: 48:55

You will never convince me that that is a reasonable response to any of this. To get a knife out of your bag and stab a kid to death, yeah. And the reaction by that many people to donate that much money to defend this young man on the premise that this is a racial incident which we have no validation, None whatsoever.

Speaker 2: 49:14

And I'll tell you what. That's the biggest reason. I have not discussed this on any of my platforms at all. I haven't even shared the article, I haven't given an opinion on it. Um again, and you and I have talked about this many times over many different um topics, cases, whatever the case, is that, um, I'm, I'm not going to do it, I don't want to speculate, I don't know. So I'll you know if and when the actual facts that are favorite word, again, there it is, again facts come out, you know, then I will be able to have a bigger opinion on this.

Speaker 2: 49:50

You know, right now, I'm viewing it as just a horrific tragedy. I do find it appalling, I agree with you. I do find it it as just a horrific tragedy. I do find it appalling, I agree with you. I do find it appalling.

Speaker 2: 49:59

How many people are, or were, I guess, donating to this GoFundMe on that premise? You know, it's absurd because we don't know, you know, and that being the point, that we don't know at this point, we know what people are saying, but we don't know what's accurate and true. And yeah, I mean, they're basically, they're basically trying to George Floyd him. They, you know, before you know it. They're going to be trying to get a statue put up of this kid and you know he's there. He's their poster boy of the moment of. You know what they will call. You know oppression, bullying, oppression. You know race inequality this is. You know clearly where they're going with all of this and you know I would say shame on them and shame on anyone who is taking, taking a situation and creating their own narrative about it and running with it Right.

Speaker 4: 50:52

Yeah, and this is this, you know, harkens back to the Daniel Penny, right, right, you know so he was. You know, we know a few that we knew a few things before the trial. Right, we knew he was on the train, we knew he was a former Marine, we knew that he was white. We knew that the victim was black. We knew that the victim had I shouldn't say victim, because that's not what that was.

Speaker 2: 51:17

That's the man who died on the train.

Speaker 4: 51:17

Yeah, you know it's only bad decisions. Yeah, right, was was, you know, had mental health issues, he had a criminal record, he was, you know, and by all accounts, he was intimidating and scaring people on the train. People just took that all over the place and, you know, penny got, you know he got attacked and you know he got vilified. You know he got attacked and and you know he got, uh, he was, you know, criminalized and all and all of these things. And and now we've got essentially, uh, you know, in the victim, which is what was being called on the train, the man who died, like he was a victim.

Speaker 4: 51:50

And now we have roles and races are reversed, right, so now you have a young black man who attacked the young white man, you know, and who you know, by all accounts, there was no threat of violence. There was no, you know. But we don't know the facts. But already people are predetermining, based on headlines and, let's be honest, skin color, which side they are voting on this issue, this incident, before anything else comes out. I mean, this was within hours. People were donating money to this and they don't even know what happened.

Speaker 2: 52:20

Nope, nope, they don't care. All they know is that it was a white person versus a black person, and so you know, that is an automatic. Doesn't matter who's, that Doesn't matter, none of it matters, just white versus black. And of course, the media is, like you know, foaming at the mouth because, oh good, now we have, you know, now we have a concrete thing to be making everyone divisive over, in fighting over, in hating each other. And this is the part that I am so beyond sick and tired. I'm so sick and tired of the media manipulation of everyone. I cannot even take it anymore and I can't take the gullibility and the willingness to be led like stupid sheep and falling into this whole, you know, us versus them narrative, and you, you know. But here we are again. It's only going to get bigger, it's only going to get uglier, and then, when all the facts come out and it doesn't go the way that they think it does, um, it's just going to pretend like it never happened.

Speaker 4: 53:28

And don't drop this kid like a sack of potatoes, because that kid listen, you know if, if and if that young man goes to jail, you will never hear another word about him again. Nope, no, um, you know, for all the people that are supporting him right now and all this other stuff, you will never hear another word about that young man again. He is being exploited for who he is and what happened by. You know a lot of people, including the media and folks. If you don't think that you're being manipulated by the media, let me share a statistic with you the view, everybody's favorite group of videos. Right, they. They have been for this calendar year, right, and we are april 9th today, right, this calendar year they have six have had 63 guests on their show so far this calendar year. Not a single conservative, not one.

Speaker 4: 54:20

So if you don't think that the media is manipulating you by limiting exposure, having good and listen, I get it, it's an entertainment show, but they discuss politics ad nauseum every day, right, but it is all stupidly. But all stupidly, but all the time it's all one-sided. You are only getting their side 63 and 0, right, 63 to 0, that's what you're getting. So if you think you're not, you know the media itself. Oh, by the way, abc Guilty, owned by Disney. You know, if you think you're not being manipulated, there's proof, that is undeniable proof, that media outlet, specifically that show, is one-sided. It's not an accident, folks. 63 to 0 is not an accident.

Speaker 4: 55:08

No, okay, no, that is If it was 63 to 1, if it was 63 to 1, I would believe that 1 is an accident Right.

Speaker 2: 55:15

Yeah, it's very true.

Speaker 2: 55:16

Yeah, yeah, it's. You know, again, it constantly blows my mind that that show is on the air still, that anybody actually watches it, aside from using it as fodder for, you know, jokes and and yeah, but yeah, I mean people, people watch it in earnest. They think that these ladies are smart and that they have witty commentary, like I'm. I need to meet these people because I want, I want to take them to see if they have a brain tumor or something that makes them believe such silly things. But yeah, I mean, that's a great example of what is happening in mainstream, where they call it somebody called it the alphabet media. I like that, the alphabet media. This is what they do.

Speaker 2: 56:03

I mean, I can't beg people enough to watch things that you don't agree with, watch things that have a different perspective, a different viewpoint. You know, I mean to find something. I don't know what's neutral anymore. I mean to find something. I don't know what's neutral anymore. I mean, if neutral exists, I don't, I don't know it. I don't know any of the. I can't even recommend a news source for you that is truly unbiased. I does it exist, clay? I don't even know.

Speaker 4: 56:29

I think the only thing that I have found so far I think it's is it 1440, 440 nightly news. So I caught, I catch it on WGN, the old Chicago station, so they do have a nightly news. That is to me about the closest thing you can get to unbind they. They very little editorializing and and it surprised me because I caught it one night and I was like like I felt like I was in like 1985 again. I was like what is this? And it literally is. It is. It is a lot of reporting and it's a lot of facts, it is some analysis, but it is very little editorializing. I think it's called 1440 or 440 nightly news, something like that. But they're, they're pretty good, but other than that, there's, there's nothing out there. There's nothing out there. Yeah, and listen folks, fox is biased too. Absolutely, they are, no question, no question.

Speaker 4: 57:18

You know, I know Gutfeld rules nighttime TV. I know he does. I enjoy bits and pieces of Gutfeld. I love Tyrus. You know Kat Timpf is great. All the best to her. I hope she's recovering well. For those of you that don't know, she had the baby got diagnosed right before with breast cancer, double mastectomy. Brave, brave woman. I hope she's recovering, but I watch it for the funny because I'm not an idiot, right? Gut, health is not news people, and that's what we've all got to do a better job of understanding and, like you said, find other stuff.

Speaker 2: 57:51

Find other stuff, watch things that you disagree with. Just get different. Listen, I have become I'm tattletaling on myself here I have become a fan of chat GPT and people are going to yell at me in the comments. They're going to be mad at me, and I understand that. But if you know how to give it the prompt, then you can get some really great information.

Speaker 2: 58:15

One of the things you can actually use chat GPT for is to research these things for you, find out, put it in there, just say and I know I know a lot of people are going to be you know the hard line. They're like nope, not using it, don't want anything to do with it. I'm I'm more concerned about getting a rounded picture of what's happening in the world and just to be able, just so I can talk about it at least a little bit and not say stupid things. You know I mean I try really hard not to say stupid things. It doesn't mean I'm going to accomplish that goal all the time, but I just feel better at the end of the day when I'm not dwelling on wow, I was so totally wrong on that. You know cause I'll dwell on it for a year. But oh, my goodness, just question everything, right, and we certainly would tell you don't go by everything that we say. Don't take what I say as you know.

Speaker 4: 59:06

Please don't my goodness Listen, the only person who's upset that you're using chat GPT is Sarah Connor.

Speaker 2: 59:15

That's it. I think everybody else is using it too. It's just using. It's just a matter of using it.

Speaker 4: 59:19

It's a matter of how you use it right how you use it.

Speaker 2: 59:22

Use it for good, not evil, people Use it to you know, increase your knowledge. Oh my goodness, what do we have?

Speaker 4: 59:29

folks, we're out of time.

Speaker 2: 59:32

We are out of time. We had. How many did we do?

Speaker 4: 59:36

Six, five we had five, we did not get. We did not get to your uh, your your topic that you wanted to talk today. We'll hit that next week.

Speaker 2: 59:45

I don't think that's going to tell you what it is. We're going to make it a surprise next week. Yeah, oh, my goodness, guys, as always, we so appreciate you hanging out with us. I us in the comments section, Remember Clay told you in the beginning we are recording on Wednesday. It was like 3.30. Well, now it's whatever time it is. Now we record during the day on Wednesday. We watch with you Thursday nights. We will do another live show coming up soon. We haven't figured out when, but we definitely will. We just really appreciate you being a part of our journey on here and don't forget to tell us what you think about these. These topics Agree, disagree. Go for it. Go crazy, Clay, go ahead.

Speaker 4: 1:00:22

And close it out, hey folks. So for all the fans of my novel, keep moving, keep shooting. There is a big. I got a big announcement coming out on Saturday, saturday. So pay attention, watch on social media. There's a big announcement coming out. Actually it's a, it's a series of announcements, but one big one. So stay tuned for that. And, you know, maybe we'll talk about that a little bit next week too.

Speaker 2: 1:00:46

We have to, we absolutely have to, and I'm like I'm going crazy If my family watches. They're like how did you keep it quiet? Cause you're not good at secrets, elsa.

Speaker 4: 1:00:56

Yes, not saying a word, but I know something you don't know. Elsa knows. So, folks, we'll again, as always on Thursday nights, we're in the, we're in the chat. You know we're either a Facebook or YouTube or both. And so until next week, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2: 1:01:12

Take care, guys. Bye-bye.

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