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Resistance at Every Turn: How the Trump Administration is Fighting Deep State Obstruction

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Clay and Elsa dissect the government shutdown prospects as Democrats attempt to obstruct funding over Doge initiatives, revealing how party-line politics prioritizes obstruction over American interests.

• Democrats facing identity crisis post-election according to James Carville and other prominent voices
• Elon Musk facing unprecedented attacks including Tesla vandalism and cyber attacks on X
• Department of Education elimination shifting power to states with Arkansas implementing innovative gun safety education
• Christian persecution in Syria going unreported while mainstream media remains silent
• Biden's auto-pen scandal raises questions about who actually authorized presidential documents and signatures

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Well, hey there, another week, another bunch of topics. How are you Clay?

Speaker 3:

I'm good. Yeah, you know, just like this current administration, nothing slows down.

Speaker 2:

Nothing. Nope, we don't slow down, not for anything. Neither does the news cycle. Lots of great topics today. We got. How many do we have? I meant to count down, not for anything. Neither does the news cycle. Lots of great topics today. We got. How many do we have? I?

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Speaker 2:

Well then, lots of topics. As we said Right off the bat, everybody's talking about the potential for a government shutdown, or partial shutdown, or full shutdown.

Speaker 3:

I think it's total shutdown. You know it's based off the continuing resolution and the budget. It's all about the money but it's not really about the money it just made it through the House yesterday. It's okay, folks. It know I despise straight party line vote. It's like that. It's a bunch of lemmings. It's terrible that it comes to that, but it's a message from the Democrats that they are willing to shut down the government based on politics yeah, not really what's right for the country, but on politics.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, really, what's right for the country. But on politics, absolutely and you know, no surprise nothing new. This is what they do. They don't give a hoot about this country or the people in this country. They care about grandstanding and making their point and just simply opposing anything that Donald Trump is going to do. No matter what he does, they're going to oppose it. So you get a couple you know breakaways. There was a what was it? There was something where they what was just recently?

Speaker 3:

like eight Democrats, um oh it was that censure of uh, yes, that's what it was. Thank you, yes.

Speaker 2:

Um, you know. So you've got a couple of people that are sick and tired of the nonsense and agree with what you're saying, that you know, not going to just vote on party lines just just because, but, yeah, this is, I mean, this is going to be the deadline. Did I say that? Right, the deadline is March 14th, so that's, you know, literally, yeah, friday. So you know, the thing is this is this is largely about Doge, right? This is largely about Elon Musk, him cutting all of these, or finding all of these you know, wacky, crazy, sneaky, dirty expenditures that are that are going here, there and everywhere and they don't like it. They're mad because they don't want the money to stop going in their pockets. That's really what it is.

Speaker 3:

You know, yeah, it's and that's. I just had this conversation today with someone and it was you know, don't you think everybody sees through what the Democrats are doing? And I said, well, of course they do. You know, you've got all of the big heads now. You know everybody's kind of doing this postmortem, continuing postmortem on the election, four months later on why they lost. And so James Carville, who you know, truthfully, has been back and forth a little bit. You know the waning weeks of the election, I think somebody wrote him a big fat check and he talked about how great Kamala was days before. They talked about what a mess she was anyway. So Kamala, um, you know Carville has been saying it, um, john Fetterman's been saying it. You know you've got senior former Obama advisors that are saying it. That you've got.

Speaker 3:

You know the Democratic Party is in this. They're one. They're tearing themselves apart because there's tons of infighting right now, but there's this loss of identity and and all they know right now is to oppose anything and everything that Trump does Right. Until they can get past that, they're going to continue to lose. So this is an example of that. It's just like you said. You know they are all amped up. They're all. They see this as an opportunity to shut the government down, and it's solely based on the existence and the work that Doge has done so far.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, as you said, they are as a party, they're in a tailspin. They have no identity. They are and Trump, you know and I do believe that this was very deliberate and intentional in a lot of ways and also just simply the way things went, because they're moving so fast and everything they don't and we talked about this before they don't know which way to turn. They don't know where to attack, because the minute they start attacking what he's doing here, he's doing something over there, and then they have to run over there and attack that. So they're they. They can't keep up, they can't keep up and, like you said, they're infighting. They're just a mess, you know.

Speaker 2:

And then there's the old school you know, back in the day Democrats that are. And then there's the old school, back in the day Democrats that are clinging on to their party and trying to figure out what's going on and what's going to happen. And I find it fascinating. We can just sit back and take your popcorn and be really objective about it and just watch the show as it goes on. I'm very curious what's going to happen? Can the old school Democrats reclaim their party? Can the old school Democrats reclaim their party. Is it gone, these radical Marxist progressive knuckleheads, or why? What do you think?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So they've got to figure out that the party line vote right now doesn't work because they don't hold a majority in anything. They can vote party line in the House, they can vote party line in the Senate. It does nothing, literally nothing, because if they vote party line, they've got to get some Republicans to come with them and you know, in some cases, maybe in ones and twos at the most, they can get some folks to change over, but not enough to change the outcome of a vote.

Speaker 3:

Kind of surprised right now is in the Supreme Court, which not that long ago you had the entire Democratic Party screaming. We talked about this, packing the court, extending, you know, making the court larger. You know they wanted to get more justices in there so they could flip. And and really, what happened just this past week? You know, amy Coney Bryant voted against what President Trump was looking for and he defended her for it. Yeah Right, he stood up in front of America and said listen, this is a legal battle, it's a legal decision. You know this is the way she voted. I backed her. She's a Supreme Court justice, that's her decision.

Speaker 3:

Ok, fine, so you know they can do all the party line stuff, all they want. It affects absolutely nothing. All it does is show the rest of the country that they are adamantly opposed to anything that president Trump is doing, and that is their only strategy. Their only strategy is to oppose everything, and it stops absolutely nothing. So it's it's. If they don't change something, if they don't figure this out, 2026 is going to be a wash. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, as I said before, I hope they keep doing all of these crazy things that they're doing. And you know, in case in point, they they are. They are desperate to find an untapped demographic. You know, I'm sure you've seen them. There's been a couple of videos out. I did some. I did some videos on them. Uh, you have a. What's her name? Rosa DeLauro, from, uh, Connecticut.

Speaker 2:

That, the purple haired lady. She's, uh, she's so meme worthy. Um, she made this unbelievably, embarrassingly, cringe worthy, or apparently, as she would say, being like the kids, cringe uh, video using, like all of the you know the cool slang words that 13 year olds use. You know she's referring to them as Gen Z, which they technically are, but they're, they're at the beginning of Gen Z, the babies of Gen Z. You know. So Gen Zers who are, I forget what the age goes up to 20 something or other. They're not saying these things that the 20 somethings are not using these. That's your voter base right now, not the 13 year olds. It's just, it was horrendous. And then, of course, the one with the choose your fighter. Did you see that one? Oh, it's so painful, it's so painful. They're grasping, they're just grasping anything that they can hang on to, because they've lost everything.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and you even had Hakeem Jeffries. You know we've got him on the run. I don't know if you saw that one, so I didn't see that one. Yeah, so he he. One, he's a horrible public speaker. Two, he's just as bad off of a teleprompter, which is amazing. But he did a commercial where he was talking about how we have the Republicans on the run, right, we have the GOP on the run. He actually said, on the run, like 17 times probably in a two and a half minute, you know, little burst, and it was all kind of broken and like none of it was fluid and so they are grasping at straws. You know you had Ilyan Omar. Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 3:

Her was talking about how stupid Americans are, how stupid the Trump voters are. You know she's just insulting half of America. Yeah, so they're they're, they're really just trying to grab anything they can and this potential shutdown is not going to help them. One, it's not going to go through and two, if it does go through, by some miracle, they're going to catch the blame for it. So you know, as it, as it stands right now, they're not to catch the blame for it. So you know, as it, as it stands right now. They're not doing themselves any favors, so I don't expect it to pass.

Speaker 3:

I think, you know come Friday it'll vote in the Senate, it'll pass, president will sign it. You know we'll continue to move forward. It's not a budget, it's a continuing resolution. We would much rather have an actual fiscal, you know budget, but we're we're, you know, six months into, halfway through the government, the federal fiscal year. So like it's not looking good. But regardless, I think it's a you know, failed attempt by the Democrats to to stop Doge, to stop president Trump to gain themselves a bargaining chip or whatever it is that they're trying to do. It's not going to work.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not going to work. You know, and all the way they they shout is this what you voted for? Yes, how many times can we say it? Yes, this is what we voted for. Like, I don't know what they think this gotcha moment is that does not exist. Like, yes, this is what we knowingly voted for. This is why I just had somebody on my I don't.

Speaker 2:

You know, I actually don't go on my personal Facebook page anymore, one because it's filled with advertisements and nonsense. It's difficult to even actually communicate with people anymore on there, right, and I know everybody's noticed that. So I generally just use my, my business page, my business profile page. I went on my personal page the other day, yesterday, and I saw an acquaintance post. You know, one of the usual.

Speaker 2:

You know that the big anti-Trump orange man, bad Trump, you Trumpers and that was the part that got me the you Trumpers, you magas, just that terminology. Now, I don't take offense to those terms. I take offense that he was trying to offend. You know what I mean. Now, this isn't some faceless stranger that you're directing this to again. Personal page, not my pro page. Everybody can say whatever they want. Argue with me, knock yourself out, call me a Trump around, that I don't care, but you're somebody who supposedly knows me in real life or knows us in real life our friends or family, whatever the case is and this is how you're talking to people that you know.

Speaker 2:

I got a problem with that, you know. So I, I, I did what I very rarely do these days. I got on my little soap box and I gave a little lecture about behaving like a civil, decent, human being and remembering those things. But, oh my gosh, you know, this is, this is what they. They do. It do. It's just screaming and hysteria and no matter what goes on, they're going to fight it tooth and nail, despite the fact that it's all for the good of the country. Obviously, the tariffs. You know, if you say that, go ahead, go online and say the price of eggs is going down. They'll lose their minds on you.

Speaker 3:

Gas too.

Speaker 2:

Yes, gas too. Gas too four year low.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, listen, I've been taking a page out of your book. I've been, I've been minimizing my um, you know, responses to people on social media. Sometimes I can't help myself, but, um, I I've been trying to model myself a little bit better after you. But you're right, I mean it's, you know, um, trumpers, maga, those are becoming slurs. Yeah, you know, and it there's nothing's nothing. It's kind of good, kind of interesting, because you know, half of the population uses it as a rallying cry and half the population uses it as a derogatory slur. So you know, the terms like that aren't going away. But you know, it's all about your.

Speaker 3:

You know everybody's different view about how these things should be done. I think you're right. I think you know everybody's different view about how these things should be done. I think you're right. I think you know, in their heart of hearts, you know, with a few exceptions of some senior level politicians, I don't believe that people want what's worst for the country. I do believe there are people out there that do that, are out there for their own benefit. But I think it's a matter of how, you know, they see things differently and how to get it done. And I know that Doge is a you know, and all of these cuts at the federal level are, you know, probably the biggest point of contention. But again, we've said it before if you don't like it, then vote different, like.

Speaker 2:

Get a better candidate, like you know not right there, clay, you're right. Get better candidates that can actually get the votes. You know that don't have to be basically like snuck into through the back door and forced on the people Like I don't know. Kamala, by the way, can we segue for a second? Did you see the word salad? The Doritos, the Doritos.

Speaker 3:

What the fuck? Even after so many months of not listening to the word salad, I got about seven seconds into it and I was like nope, I had to stop. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2:

So I forced myself to watch it.

Speaker 4:

So I was willing to give up whatever might be the tracking of Kamala Harris's particular fondness for nacho cheese Doritos for the sake of getting a big bag of Doritos as I watched the Oscars. That's the consumer behavior.

Speaker 1:

And that's right.

Speaker 4:

But here's the thing At what point do we also uplift and highlight the consumer's right to also expect and you can debate with me if it should be a right, I think it should To expect that the innovation would also be weighted in terms of solving their everyday problems, which are beyond my craving for Doritos, but about whatever? And I know the work is happening around scientific discoveries, for example, to cure longstanding diseases. But I'm going to throw out another one and you all again, please get back to me any information you have. I would love it if there would be an investment of resources in solving the affordable housing issue in America.

Speaker 2:

And I kept playing it over and over, thinking now I'm going to hear what the segue is into what you're saying, like where, where were the transitions? I'm going to hear what the segue is into what you're saying Like where where were the transitions in? Like it went from my love of Doritos and I don't know, sacrificing. I don't even know, I don't, nobody knows, nobody knows, but and nobody can tell you how she got from one to the other. It was such a mess and, um, I thank her. I thank her for giving me an opportunity to revisit her for a brief moment and get to remind everybody what a mess, what a mess, what a disaster we avoided, but that's what they put in front of everybody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what they put in front of everybody. So I mean, be mad all you want. Yes, I would suggest, instead of being mad, just be better. Just do better, that's all.

Speaker 3:

Right and again. So we're. You know we've got. We do have Doge stuff going on, you know. I mean Elon is doing what Elon does along with this, you know that horrific crew of 20 year old genius. It's like those kids are being vilified and I'm sure they're probably laughing like crazy.

Speaker 2:

But I'm sure they are. How could they not right now, like they're sitting back, just, you know, having the time of their lives this is like the opportunity of a lifetime, and they're, they're, just, they're killing it, they're killing it and, like you said, laughing the whole way. Yeah, are there? So this is, I guess I. I should know this, but I don't. Are there identities protected? Cause I think they should be based on the lunacy.

Speaker 3:

I have not seen a single name. I haven't either, okay, so I'm not saying they're not out there, but I haven't seen them. So I think they're protecting these kids as they should Like, absolutely they should be yeah, yeah, like witness protection kind of protection for a very long time, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean, well, listen, look what Elon Musk is going through right now. You know, besides, we're going to talk about this, we're going to talk about the cyber attack on X. That's our main topic here with this, but, of course, as everybody's probably seen over the last few days, the attacks on the Tesla plants and vehicles and all of that, but that's what they're doing. You know, anything that has to do with him? Um, they are going full throttle. I think I just saw something. I think he walks around with a crew of like 20 bodyguards at all times. Yeah, yeah, at all times, 20 bodyguards, and obviously rightly so.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you saw the. I only saw a clip of it, because we know that's what I do. I the clips. Uh, elon was talking to I don't know if it was sean ryan, I forget who he was talking to, um, but he was, you know, basically asked a question, maybe it's joe rogan uh, asked a question that he kind of wouldn't answer. He chose not answer because he's right. Did you see that? Yeah, if you, if you see, you know, basically, if I, if I talk about this, I'm going to get killed, like, I will get killed if I even talk about this. Yeah, that's how bad it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was. It was Rogan, and they were talking about the insider trading that goes on inside Congress. Thank you, and you know he, he, yeah, I mean he said he started to talk about it and then he stopped. He's like listen, if I keep going on this, you know something bad's going to happen. And Rogan's like what are you talking about? Because they'll kill me, Like if not comfortable talking about that stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think that really merits for everyone some serious pause. Think about that. It is that bad. It's worse than what we think, it's worse than what we know. That's bad, it's really scary. And it's just another reminder. This guy didn't have to do any of this.

Speaker 3:

He doesn't have to do any of what he's doing, and you know, and, and thank God, he's doing it because and the, the spray painting, vandalism, the attacks on all the Tesla drivers like, not six, nine, 12 months ago, like you were a hero for driving a Tesla because you were saving the environment right, that was as green as green could get. And, like you know Tesla drivers, it was a status symbol and it was cool and you know, like everybody was all about it. It was good for the environment. And now, just because he's working for president Trump, right, Like you could have a three-year-old Tesla that you bought off the showroom floor and you've been driving it for the last three years. But if you didn't immediately turn around and sell that thing, like as soon as Doge kicked off or as soon as he endorsed President Trump, like it's escalated. Now they're literally destroying vehicles yeah, Privately owned, like you know, parked on the street in the city and a neighborhood, just because of you know, Elon Musk. Like people have lost their ever loving mind.

Speaker 2:

Completely gone. I just saw a video, just as shortly before we came on here, a video of a deranged you know, I don't Democrat chasing down a Tesla family in their Tesla and literally chasing the car as it's driving and beating on the windows and screaming you know God knows what at them. I mean this is. This is a level of unhinged lunacy that that the left and I'm talking about the elite left, the media, the politicians, all these people they are 100 percent responsible for these people behaving the way that they are 100% responsible for these people behaving the way that they are. They unleashed the craziest side of people with all of this and they did it intentionally. They did it intentionally. This was all all planned out, all intentional and no one will ever convince me otherwise. I don't think anybody's going to try to, but they wouldn't.

Speaker 3:

And you know, like I was just having this conversation, do you remember? Like right before COVID there was this weird rash of people like dressing up as clowns in public and they would like stand in an alley or they would stand in a parking lot, you know, they'd have a big hammer or a bat or something and then they were randomly chasing people Right, like it was always amazing to me that nobody got shot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

How is that even possible? I'm guaranteed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I can guarantee you, if that happened to me, that would be the outcome I am. I am such a cliche. I have a an extreme clown aversion. I saw one of those things Like I know you know, oh, everybody was a clown, I have it, I don't care, I'm not sorry. Yeah, bad things would happen. So thank goodness.

Speaker 3:

So that you know it never, it never happened, it was a weird thing. And then COVID hit and then it all kind of went away. But this like running alongside be like attacking people for driving a specific car, physically accosting them, scaring, like someone is going to get shot for this, like that's if this continues and it continues to escalate because that's what's going on, is it's escalating Someone is going to get hurt and I can tell you that it's not going to be the people who own the Tesla, right, right, it's going to be somebody who has got a can you know, a rattle can and spray paint, or they've got a whatever and they're damaging a car, or they're attacking a family getting in a car, something like that. Someone's going to get hurt and it's just this, like you said, unhinged, you know, lunacy. Like the guy's driving a car, the lady's driving a car, just living his life.

Speaker 2:

That's it. They're not doing anything Like. They're literally just driving their vehicle that they bought with their money or make payments on with their money. I mean, come on, it's just the same. And you know, the craziest part too, is that if someone from the left watches this, watches just this segment, I know for a fact their response would be I can't believe. You care more about the vehicle than someone's roof, and that you're justifying killing somebody for beating on a car. Yeah, no, I am on a car?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, I am. This is there. There is a saying that says you know um, you know, I can't. I can't believe that you value you know what is it. I can't believe you that you value your possessions more than they value. You value someone's life and it's like well, clearly, they value my possessions more than they value their own life.

Speaker 2:

So if you want to turn around, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, but but so even now it's escalated to now we've got a cyber attack on X Right and, and so I I was actually in the middle of, I was trying to post a blog on Monday and I'm like what the hell's going on?

Speaker 2:

Like I thought it was just me.

Speaker 3:

So weird, right, I was literally hit it right in the middle of whatever was going on. And so now what they're saying is it was a pro-Ukrainian you know pro-Ukrainian hacker group who you know put a cyber attack on X. Yeah, the platform team. Yeah, maybe an hour or two. You know they got it under control. But you know, people can forget. Like, the entire communications network for the Ukrainian army is done with Starlink, yes, and if Musk wanted to shut, if he wanted to end the Ukrainian army, all he has to do is turn that off. They're done. Long range communication gone, right, they, they would be overrun so quickly. It wouldn't even be funny. So he's not anti-Ukraine. Like these people have got this stuff so twisted and backwards that they don't even know what they're doing. Like if you want to have him turn off Starlink, be pro-Ukrainian and then attack him. Like that is just that. It doesn't make any sense at all. But people are not thinking rationally in what they're trying to do. It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it doesn't, and it's just par for the course. Right, this is, this is what they do, Everything that is, you know, liberal leftist logic is synonymous with illogic hypocrisy. You know all of the things. And and this is another sad extension of that, or example of that it's just absolutely insane, and so I guess. So now they're. They did also say that you know the IP address came from the Ukraine area, but they're also saying that there's certainly a possibility that it was like a spoofing thing.

Speaker 3:

I guess you can make that, yeah you can bounce IP addresses, you can route it through different places regardless, but again, you're not just affecting Actually, you're not even affecting Elon Musk. If you shut down X, think he's going to repair that and be right back. The people that you did hurt were the and.

Speaker 2:

I'm not one of them, the maybe hundreds or thousands, I guess thousands of people who are monetized on the platform. You lost them a bunch of money. And those are people on the left and the right, because the people that hate Elon Musk now are also on X. Some of them left, of course, but you know, or claim that they left, they're still there. You know, they're still there, unlike rosie o'donnell was apparently right. Oh, I moved to ireland and nobody noticed, so she had to come back and announce it. She's like I moved, hello, I moved to ireland and I'm there now because you know trump, because of trump. Nobody knew you were gone and nobody cares. Least of all, President Trump?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but you know, again, this is all resultant of of everything that he's doing. And you know, yes to the president, the request of President Trump to initiate Doge, to get that team of 20 year old geniuses and unleash federal government. And again, this is what we voted for you know, I still will not.

Speaker 3:

I can't grasp the concept of anybody who says oh, my friend worked at USAID, they got fired. Oh, my friend worked at you know such and such. They were a probationary employee, they got fired. Oh, this is awful, I get it, it's your friend, I got it. But if you're upset about your friend losing their job and you're not upset about the hundreds of millions, potentially billions, of dollars that have been stolen from the American public, including you, if you're more worried about that person versus everything else that's been going on, I'll never be able to grasp that concept.

Speaker 2:

No, no, we are not the same, right, we are just not the same. If that's your value system, you know the trillions of dollars stolen from the American people, like you said, including your own pocket, your family. Yeah, your priorities are a little weird, to say the least, right? Yeah, again, if this were Biden, if this was Kamala Harris, if this was anyone that they put forward, they would be cheering and, and you know, getting those Nobel peace prizes and whatever awards and medals Get them engraved early, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, I mean, they would already be done. He'd be, you know times, person of the century. Yeah, come on, and we all see through it. Like you said before, we, everyone sees through it. Nobody's falling for this garbage anymore, you know, and and I think, I think that's probably what's causing them to escalate even more Like this is sheer desperation, now, frantic desperation, and and that's what makes them scary, you know, and and we laugh about it and make fun and we shake our head and all those things, but they are legitimately scary people because they are of the mindset that they have nothing to lose, because they think somehow they've lost everything already. And you know the world is ending. So this just sends them, you know, even further into their dark abyss of insanity.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's you know. So now we've got a full cabinet right. Everybody's been confirmed now, everybody that you know, I think. What did he lose to?

Speaker 2:

Matt, I actually don't. Um well, are you counting um? Gates was one, yeah, Was there another one? I don't even know.

Speaker 3:

To tell you the truth, it may have just been him, but everybody else made it right In record time. By the way, they all got through, including, you know, mrs WWE herself, lady McMahon, the Department of Education, and you know Doge is already in there. Actually, I don't even know if Doge has to, but I think she's in there cleaning house. They've already. You know, the eminent departure of about 50% of the Department of Education is happening and people, of course, it's the same reaction.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, I saw, see what's her face. Randy Gardner, is that her last name?

Speaker 3:

You're talking about the teacher's union, lady.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So she, you know it's interesting because six months, no, right after the election, between the election and the inauguration, right, so that small window of about 60 days somebody asked her about the elimination of DOE and she said it doesn't matter. That was her reaction, you know, less than 200 days ago, you know, she said, oh, it doesn't, it doesn't matter, it doesn't really affect anything. And now she's backpedaling, right. So, yeah, she was very upset, you know, and she's upset because, you know, it's this, the idea that this shutting down the DOE, the idea that this shutting down the DOE, enabling school choice in all these families, is going to somehow make education worse. Like we have a 27% literacy rate in fourth to 12th graders right now. Like it's so bad that you can't allow this to continue. Oh, by the way, they have an exorbitant budget that, truthfully, not a penny of it goes to actual education, right, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was going. A whole big, massive chunk was going to DEI initiative. So, yeah, yeah, they are doing a very good job of convincing the half of the population that this means that public education is getting destroyed. There's not going to be any public education. How are they going to get money to do that is a massive lie. They're getting rid of the bureaucracy, the unnecessary middlemen, and they're giving the money, the funds, directly to the states, where it belongs, who it should go to and, hopefully, who will be also monitored to make sure that those monies are going to actual education and not transgender this or you know whatever. God knows what else they can come up with full of nonsense. So, yeah, you know the mass hysteria that they're. So, yeah, you know the the mass hysteria that they're encouraging is just absurd, yeah it's again.

Speaker 3:

We're cutting up bureaucracy. Which increases efficiency oh, by the way, that's the E in Doge right Maximizing efficiency, minimizing inefficiency. Which allows the availability of more dollars to be applied where they're supposed to be applied, which is improving education for kids. Yeah Right, it just happens to be at the state level which it's pushing responsibility down to the states. Oh, by the way, that's the way the framers wanted it, you know, and? And so the states have to own it, and that's the way it works.

Speaker 3:

My guess is I'm not saying this is going to backfire In some states. It's definitely going to backfire because what the states will do is they will and I'm talking California, illinois, new York, new Jersey, minnesota, michigan, all the culprit states they're going to establish a much larger department of education at the state level. They're going to build all of that Department of Education at the state level. They're going to build all of that crap right back in that used to exist at the federal level, that somebody else did. They're going to build it into their state DOEs and then, when we have this availability of more dollars, they're going to waste it on other stuff. They're going to waste it on generating more bureaucracy, big gov at the state level and it's not going to go where it needs to go, which is to the kids Right.

Speaker 2:

Right, and, and of course, they will blame Trump. They'll somehow. They'll somehow blame Trump for that happening. Right, yeah, that's what they do.

Speaker 3:

Listen, I, you know the, and it'll be the same culprit places. You know everybody will blame the big city, school districts, Right and the and the mayors that go with them. Now Mayor Adams is going to catch out in New York, no matter what Right. You know, the mayoral office in Chicago has been a disaster for at least 10 years, you know, and the current mayor's got a six point six percent approval rating. So you can complain about President Trump all you want, but Chicago public school system, CPS, has its own problems.

Speaker 3:

Go back to COVID. They were the ones that said we're not your babysitters, we refuse to come to work, we're not, you know, endangering our teachers. We're not doing this, we're not doing that, and it was very, very clear to the population that the teachers were not in it for the kids. So you know, I would assume, I would hope and I know that hope is not a course of action and, truthfully, it'll never turn out this way but this extra money that we're going to save, that's going to get cut out of Doge. If that could get pushed down to, I don't know teachers for crying out loud to pay them what they're worth.

Speaker 3:

The biggest crime in America is that cops teachers to pay them what they're worth. The biggest crime in America is that cops, teachers, firemen, soldiers right, Teachers, especially in there, are not paid their value, to the system, to the country. Right, Right, Right. We do need to figure out a way to increase pay for teachers. Not that the candidates we have are bad, I'm not saying that but you're going to get better candidates. You're going to get candidates that are going to stay for longer. They're going to stay teachers. They're not going to venture off into other things because you know their pay is so low and it just doesn't make sense. They can't pay back their student loans and everything else.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's just, it's so simple, right? It's just common sense. If you want the best, pay for the best, get the seems so simple. Why is it never?

Speaker 3:

so simple. Listen. The only people that complain about high taxes and money actually going to school districts, the only people who complain about that, are old people who don't have kids in school anymore. And I get it I totally get it If you're 65 and you live in a place where they have a high school tax and you're paying a lot of money and you resent that because your kids have been out of school for 35 years okay, I get it, sure, I get it.

Speaker 2:

But they're also wrong because shame on you, because those are the same people shaking their fist at their TV, saying you know, or at the teenagers walking down the street with their pants hanging down off their their butts, and you know? That's what's wrong with our youth of America. What's wrong is you didn't invest in them.

Speaker 3:

That's a very good point. Right, that is a very good point, you're right.

Speaker 2:

You don't get to complain, that's, you know. Somebody told me that years ago, years ago, before I was ever even talking about politics and social issues, before it was ever even a twinkle in my eye I was one of those people that did not get involved. I didn't know anything about politics, I didn't know anything of the things. And I, I complained about something in my town, um, to someone who is very politically involved in our town, in our town, and uh, I complained about something. She said, well, did you vote? I said no. She said, well, then you can't complain. You got nothing to say and she was right. And I said, well, there's a little eye opener, there's a little, you know, slap of reality. So I use that all the time. You don't get to complain, you know, if you weren't part of the solution, If you're not part of the solution, you don't get to complain.

Speaker 3:

That's that. So, and you know, a great example of a state taking education, you know, on itself, a great state of Arkansas, I don't know if you saw this. They are instituting, they have voted, it's passed. State of Arkansas, I don't know if you saw this. They are instituting, they have voted, it's passed. They are instituting mandatory gun safety training in public schools and publicly, public choice charter schools. I love that, Right. So, and so they're.

Speaker 3:

They're developing the program now and it could all the way way. They're considering every option, up to and including, I think, at the high school level, off campus shooting experiences, right, each actual, you know, firing gun safety kind of stuff. So the state took it on itself. They said this is how we think we battle gun violence. We educate kids, we take what you know, what I mean They've got and the state's doing it, and the state's paying for it, and it's part of their department of education. That's doing it. I love it, right, so they're, they're, you know, and it's becoming part of the curriculum, which is exactly what I think the federal DOE, especially under the last administration, would have fought tooth and nail to prevent that from happening.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 3:

You know that for certain. So we take the federal DOE out of the way. You've got states that are going to take this on. They're going to develop their own curriculum requirements based on their population, et cetera, et cetera, and the state of Arkansas is a great example. And I'm not fully educated on everything that DOE does, but I can't justify the $680 million budget or whatever it is, that they've got some exorbitant amount of money for completely administrative purposes.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and neither can they. If they were to be honest, neither can they, because the question always comes down to all right, well, show me the, show me the test scores, show me the graduation rate you know, show me, show me what this money has done for the children. And if you can't show me something, we already know where we are standing in education and all of the things. I just saw a girl suing her state, her district, whatever, for she graduated with high honors and she doesn't know how to read or write. I mean, come on, and, of course, yes, public school, yep, so, uh, yeah, I, I applaud this move again. That was, you know, a question that's one of my very liberal friends posted on um Facebook, I think it was. You know, are you happy? He's going to eliminate the, the department of education, are you happy? Now, this is what he voted for. Yes, yes, yes, it is.

Speaker 3:

I'll tell you what I'm not happy about, though. There was a prompt, there was a promise made. There was a promise made, and we haven't seen it yet no I want to know. Pam bondy and kash patel, yes, where are the files?

Speaker 2:

and I don't want to hear national security, I don't want to hear it yeah, that's actually very concerning, and you know, obviously, of course, that they're citing national security, because what that does, in my opinion, what that does, is it gives the you know, the anti Trumpers, the people who hate Trump, who've been trying to, you know, say that he's on that list, he's on that list. This kind of gives them some fuel and just stokes that more like, oh, they're not releasing it because Trump's on it, you know. So I don't know what happened here in the chain of this and I don't know, you know, who to blame for this, and maybe it is Pam Bondi. I don't really know, you know. Could she have been just caught up in some you know really unfortunate circumstances over promisingpromising before they knew really what was in there? I don't know. What are you thinking?

Speaker 3:

So I think the sequencing of who got approved mattered right. So she got approved to be the attorney general first to run Department of Justice. It was the delay with Kash Patel because he, you know, there was a little bit of pushback on him so he took a little longer to get confirmed. There was that gap in there, right. And so we know for a fact that the New York office for the.

Speaker 3:

FBI was withholding files. We do know that for a fact. Oh, by the way, that that director or deputy director or whatever it is that was ran, that office gone, gone, which is good. But in the meantime we all know that there was also a lot of things destroyed, a lot of files, a lot of information that was destroyed. But the expectation from Pam Bondi was, as soon as Kash Patel walked in, that he was just going to be like, oh, here's all the files and hand it to her, which we all know is not a real thing. So I think she really thought that the FBI was prepared to hand over the documents when they weren't. So again, that's a little bit of overpromise.

Speaker 3:

Now my read on the whole national security thing, and I agree with you anytime that you put that label on it, I think it's a bad look. But if that is in fact true, I don't think that it's a US diplomat, a US elected official that's on that list. Listen, we all know Bill Clinton's on it, of course, right, national security, that's not a thing. Well, you know, is Hunter Biden on there? Probably? You know again, is that national security? Is that not something that we would all go? Well, of course he is. I honestly think that there is a high level ally for indignitarian. I'm not talking Prince Andrew, I'm talking somebody with actual power. I think there's somebody like that on the list that has an effect on our relationships, or global relationships, um, that we don't necessarily want to release.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Well, that would make a lot of sense, it would make complete sense, you know and there's also that you know you add another layer to that that you know there's victims victims, names in all of this, that I mean these people have to be protected. So you know there's a process to it and I think, you know, I think we have the right word for it Overpromised. Yeah, you know, I don't know. I mean, I think everybody basically knew that the scope was wide, that this was big and very deep and very dirty and disgusting and awful, and a lot of things needed to be squared away first before things could be made public. And I get that and I appreciate that, and I don't think they're I don't actually think they're wrong for doing that. I'm probably going to get attacked for saying that, but I don't care, Whatever, you know, I just think they probably shouldn't have promised the timeline that they promised. Yeah, I guess that's the best I could say on it, Right, I mean yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3:

But but again, to use monikers like, oh, it's national security, ok, you know what we? What we want is the unredacted, unedited, unaltered. That's what we all want, right? They never should have promised that, never Without seeing it. If they had seen it and they said, yeah, we're going to release the whole thing because there's nothing in there that we can't share or don't want to share, that's one thing. But if you say without seeing it, hey, we're going to put it all out there, we're at total transparency, without knowing what's in the files, that was bad promise, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So now there's calls from people on the right for Pam Bondi to be removed. Do you? I mean, do you think that's harsh? Do you think that's?

Speaker 3:

now way, way, way too early for that, Right, I think you know I don't know who's saying that. I hadn't heard that. Who is it?

Speaker 2:

Is it like the usual rhino suspects? Yeah, yeah it probably is.

Speaker 3:

It probably is. That's a. You know that's stupid, truthfully, I got you know nobody. Nobody knows their job and is comfortable in their job in under 90 days. I don't care who you are or what the job is, you know it takes everybody, and anybody, you know, at least 180 days to be comfortable in their job, and you know it's. It would be nice to be except for president Trump, cause he did it for four years and then came back Right, right. But you know the rest of it, the rest of the team, you know they've got to get settled and she hasn't even been in 90 days yet.

Speaker 2:

So and she's and she's, they're dealing the entire administration in every department is dealing with adversarial people who are supposed to not be adversarial, they're supposed to be, you know, complying and doing their jobs, and you know so they're meeting resistance at every single level of what they're doing. You know, we've got all of these operatives going on and you know I mean you see it every day in the news if you're watching the right news that you know this one is withholding, this one's shredding documents. This one is simply refusing to turn over documents or work or answer the five questions of what you did this week at your job. You know so they're meeting massive resistance. And of course you mentioned the New York FBI director there, who you know is now gone, the New York FBI director there, who you know is now gone. Yeah, so a little bit of leeway here, I think, is reasonable to ask for, and then you know so. Then the other thing I'm just looking at it now.

Speaker 2:

So the other thing I just read today was apparently Kash Patel requested a direct line. Did you see that? And of course people are speculating about that. Why would he do that? Why would he kind of skip the chain of command? Is there some lack of trust that he that, and of course people are speculating about that why would he do that? Why would he kind of skip the chain of command? Is there some lack of trust that he has? And I guess it would be Pam Bondi, right, would she be the next? Would she be the next? Yeah, okay, so he would answer to her.

Speaker 3:

Yep, okay. So some of it is proximity, some of it is availability, some of it is and listen, we don't even know like he may have had a discussion with Pam Bondi and she said, yeah, go ahead If you need to. You know if she trusts him enough to be like hey, listen, if you think it's a direct to the president and you don't want to stop and talk to me first and you know, I trust your judgment and just brief me afterwards Like there's a lot of business people, there's a lot of military leaders, there's a lot of folks who operate like that and they get applauded for it. But now we've got the you know people who think that they want to make something out of it without knowing any of the details. So, yeah, he wants a direct line to the president. Okay, fine, right, you know, maybe the two of them sat down. I think they were someplace together Not that long ago, the two of them sitting down, and was it that Super Bowl? They were all chummy chummy.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, president Posh Patel, you know President Trump might have leaned over and said hey, let's get you a direct line to my office, right you?

Speaker 2:

know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

He's a pretty hands-on guy, so you know yeah, nobody knows, like there's so many variables in that. It's not like the president remembers every. You know what I mean. He's not going back and going to his communications director, go, hey, get me a direct line to Patel, you know. Or he may have said hey, gosh, when you get back, put in a request, get a direct line to me, just handle it from your end and I'll wait, and then we'll be okay, right, but but everybody likes to speculate and make yeah, there's no, yeah, I was just going to say this is like, you know, pot stirring.

Speaker 2:

You know this is probably like oh, you know, take a look, there's. There's trouble in paradise. You know people who want to cause strife between you know his party, and that's been going on from day one. Of course, they tried to you know eight years ago. Yes, yeah, this is nothing new. And you know Trump in the entire cabinet is sitting there going like you really think this is our first rodeo here, like get over yourselves.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah absolutely, and you said it there. They're getting consumed at every turn by gatekeepers and you know obstructionists and you know all this stuff. You remember when, like the Clintons, left the White House and they popped every W off of the key like that was childish. But I would take that over what's going on right now?

Speaker 2:

I would too.

Speaker 3:

That's like some gentle, you know, you know we got bigger fish to fry, I mean, you know. So one of our last topics here is we just had a pro-Assad uprising in Syria and, for those of you that don't know we have about, we have a couple of hundred troops in Syria. Right, I know President Trump talked about bringing everybody home, but there's folks, you know, operating out of Syria for a number of reasons, doing a number of different things, and so they're kind of caught in the middle of this. So, you know, assad was overthrown not all that long ago. You've got a new regime in there, and now what you've got are pro-Assad people in an uprising, and this wasn't like a January 6th kind of a thing. This is like belt fed machine guns and like.

Speaker 3:

And then, oh, by the way, as part of this, they are persecuting and, oh, by the way, executing Christians in Syria. And for those who don't know, historically there are a lot of nations Middle East nations that had deep, dense Christian populations for not just decades but centuries Big Christian population in Egypt, big Christian population in Iraq, big Christian population Syria, lebanon, like all in that area. They had pockets of, of lots of Christians and they've all been run out or or killed in the process and that's what's going on in Syria. This is like genocide, christian genocide in Syria right now, from this pro Assad, you know uprising guerrilla group, whatever they're calling themselves- yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you know, I can guarantee to you that most people on the left do not even know that this is happening. And why? Because the left owned mainstream media isn't going to talk about it. Not on their priority list. If it's not DEI, if it's not Donald Trump, if it's not LGBTQXYZ, they don't care. If it's Christians, they don't care, doesn't fit their pro-Islam narrative or don't hurt anyone. You know Islam's feelings. It just doesn't count for them. But 745 Christians were killed in 48 hours as they dragged. This is just. You know, I hate picturing these things, but I think, to drive the point home, really picture what these poor people went through dragged from their homes, tortured and executed. Churches were burned, entire families wiped out, their families wiped out 48 hours. Neighborhoods, of course, christian neighborhoods targeted, and then, of course, the silence from the mainstream media. I hate calling them the mainstream media, but that's what I'm going to call them and their slogan. This is their slogan First the Saturday people meaning Jews, then the Sunday people meaning Christians. That's their slogan. I'm speechless. It's actually anger.

Speaker 3:

I tell you what, for all the viewers out there, everybody who watches us, everybody who listens, whatever, if you find anywhere, you know everybody's got the I stand with Ukraine signs in their front yard and they're wearing the blue and yellow flag pins. If you find a I stand with Christians in Syria, sign t-shirt pin emblem anywhere at all, please contact Elsa and I. I want to see it because I can promise you that does not exist.

Speaker 2:

No, but maybe I should make one.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what you should do is you know, do you have an auto pen?

Speaker 2:

We know somebody who had an auto pen. We know somebody who had one and went to town with it, or at least somebody did on his behalf. How about this? First of all, obviously nobody's actually surprised here by any of it, but it's just wild to me that now we're finally talking about it.

Speaker 3:

So I managed an auto pen when I was an AD camp for then Lieutenant General Rodriguez in Kabul in 2010, 11, we had an auto pen in the office. Okay, those that don't know what an auto pen is, it is a mechanical device, right? You register a signature right in the computer and then, when you needed to sign something, you put a literal ink pen or felt pen or Sharpie or whatever it is, into the machine. You type in the code because they're all coded to make sure that not everybody has access. You type in the code, you put the paper in there, you hit the, you know it's all lined up and you hit the button and it replicates the signature. It's a real signature with a real pen. Okay, that's really cool. Actually, it replicates the signature that's registered in the computer. Okay, they again with the code controlled. Okay, there were two, two people besides the boss, besides my boss. There were two people that had that code me and one other person. That was it. So anytime that thing was used, there was only a couple of people that had the code to do.

Speaker 3:

Do that, we only used it for award certificates, everything else, right, right, because that was one of those things, that one. We wanted a real signature on two. You know, hundreds of those things were produced um so, but anything else, official documents and truthfully those were only lower level awards, like the very important awards we're talking about valorous silver star kind of stuff. My boss signed those himself. Okay, um, but anything official, any that that auto pen was used so rarely. It had dust on it Like we would have to clean it before we used it, right? But clearly the one in the oval office was used on a regular basis. What did they say? They can find one thing. Yeah, I'm looking through my notes here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so definitely used considerably more than any. As you said, it's a common practice to have that, to use that in those types of situations, oh for sure, but they're used, like you said, with infrequency and for certain occasions. This was apparently used on nearly everything, with the exception of Biden's letter that he wrote, right, that was like the only thing that it was not on out of. You know, I don't even know hundreds, I don't know he wrote it.

Speaker 3:

He wrote it and signed it in Delaware. He wasn't in the White House when he did it, right yeah? So literally every and again, folks, what this does is the president doesn't have to be there, he doesn't have to authorize what's being signed, and the only control you have over the code is who you give it out to. It's just like your pin on your ATM or your credit card. You have it, maybe your spouse or your significant other has it, maybe your kid has it, but that's it. Those are the only people that have your ATM card.

Speaker 3:

But if you take that thing and you give it out to 10, 15 people, or if you don't monitor what your kid's doing, they're going to drain your bank account, right, and so they're going to use it because they have the code. This is the same thing. Anybody with that code and again, the code was not controlled, obviously anybody could walk in, put any piece of paper, any document and put the president's signature on it. And it's a real signature with a pen, right yeah, and it's a real signature with a pen.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, I just got this image of like you know, jill going you need the pen, here it is. You know she tosses it over to Hunter and Hunter's like yeah, good, ok, I'll sign this one and you know you need the pen here. You take it Like it just got tossed around to whoever happened to be sitting behind the desk that day.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's crazy. I'm laughing but it's not funny. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

I'm laughing but it's not funny. It's incredibly serious because obviously that leads to the very real and important question of if he didn't sign these legal documents that are policy, that are legislation, that are executive orders, that are I don't know pardons, if he didn't legally sign them, that should invalidate all of them.

Speaker 3:

So didn't legally sign them. That should invalidate all of them. And if you manage one of those things, the way they're supposed to be managed, every single signature is supposed to be logged so that you know what was signed, when and with the authorization of the signatory right. So I guarantee you they don't have a log, because if they had a log they could go back and say, well, this was signed. Then when was the president? Because you know if anybody went in there and signed anything at 2 am, president's not there. That old man sleeping, you know, or they can bounce it off of his trips to Delaware, or they could. They could find all kinds of holes in this, but the assumption is is that the vast majority of things that were signed when he was in the White House he had zero awareness.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know we're getting so much, you know, after the fact, confirmation from people in the know, people from the media like Jake Tapper, and there's a couple other people too that are now, you know, coming out of the woodworking on oh yeah, you didn't have a clue what was going on.

Speaker 2:

It was wild over there. Yeah, you know, you have lots of people coming out with confirmation that this guy was not. Lights were on but no one was home and you know, it's all what we knew. But to hear it from these people who covered this whole thing, this needs to be looked into, obviously. I mean, and I don't know what's going to happen, I guess you guys can chime in I mean chime in on everything, of course, but I especially I think we really want to know your thoughts on this. What should happen at this point? Should they fully investigate it? Let it go and just move forward? I mean, I'm all for investigate it. You know, undo some of the things that he's done, those pardons right at the top of my personal list. I want those pardons removed.

Speaker 3:

Yep, I'll tell you who's shaking right now Adam Schiff.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, he is. Yeah, he is Loving it. So many things that keep. I have been smiling so much since January 20th, so much smiling that I'm probably going to have to go to my uh, my med spa and get a little Botox or filler or something in my, in my, laugh line. Just kidding, I'm not really kidding, but I'm kidding Whatever. Well, you know what? We did it, holy cow. We did it. We got through all of them. We are so good, we're so good at this.

Speaker 3:

It's always. It's always fun.

Speaker 2:

It is, oh my goodness, guys, the usual. We, we love engaging with you guys in the comment section. We see it, we, we hop in there and we, we chime in here and there and we, we love your involvement. We love you guys and appreciate you so much. Just the reminder Clay started off letting everybody know we're recording on Wednesday. You're watching on Thursday. We're watching with you. Clay, go ahead and send them off.

Speaker 3:

Listen, folks, another great week, and you know the new cycle keeps on rolling, so we'll be. We appreciate you all tuning in and we'll be back with more next week. And, as always for me, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2:

Take care guys.

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