Famous Faces and Voter Choices

Election chaos or political evolution? As the final days before the election unfold, we confront the hard-hitting issues of delayed election results and the potential for manipulation that such delays might create. We dissect the controversies surrounding voter ID laws, drawing on real-life examples from Pennsylvania, and address the skepticism that fuels the debate on election integrity. The stakes are high, and the trust in our democratic process hangs in the balance.

Celebrity sway or mere political theater? We shift focus to the unexpected yet powerful influence of celebrities like Beyoncé and Julia Roberts on voter behavior. Their appearances at political rallies spark discussions that go beyond just public perception, challenging us to reconsider the impact of celebrity endorsements on the political landscape. Join us as we explore how personal experiences with political division and the dynamic styles of today's political figures reflect the complexity of our times.

Is media bias shaping our reality or merely reflecting it? We tackle the fallout from the elusive Kamala Harris and Joe Rogan interview, contrasting it with J.D. Vance's candid approach. In a political climate rife with division and demographic shifts, we take a closer look at the Democratic Party's struggle to hold key support and the surprising alliances forming within Trump's diverse base. Through these narratives, we offer a candid reflection on the state of modern politics and the ever-growing influence of media in shaping public discourse.

Chapters

• 0:00 Political Election and Voter Integrity
• 12:08 Election Concerns and Moving Decisions
• 20:45 Celebrity Influence on Voter Behavior
• 34:54 Political Division and Condescension
• 38:53 Political Divides and Demographic Changes
• 46:06 Political Commentary and Media Bias
• 57:13 Return to Chance

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's the Elsa Kurtz Show with Clay Novak Conservative views on world news Brought to you by the Wellness Company, Prepared for the unexpected and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:17

What's up, my friend?

Speaker 3: 0:18

The world is a crazy place. It's just, I think, right now, if you look at the headlines, the world is relatively quiet Right, just here.

Speaker 2: 0:31

It's just us. It's just us making lots of noise. I feel like the rest of the world just said you know what, guys, let's just grab some popcorn and sit back and watch this show, because it's pretty unreal. It's pretty, it's pretty unreal. It's like a soap opera playing out for the world to watch. Oh, my goodness, yeah, obviously, guys. We. We have all of the things, or as many of the things as we can tackle in in one hour, right?

Speaker 3: 1:01

Yes, we have. We have plenty of talk, plenty to talk about, and so everybody knows it's Wednesday at 4 pm, east Coast time. Right, so we're about 24 hours from release. But we've got plenty to talk about in the last week before the election and we'll talk about it as much as we can right after this so what do we have?

Speaker 2: 1:35

six days, six days to go, is it seven?

Speaker 3: 1:38

I'm looking at my phone right now well, it's six days to election day, but there's a lot of speculation on what are we going to know on election night.

Speaker 2: 1:47

Yeah, and this really makes my blood boil. This, to me, is inconceivable. I mean, you're telling me larger states, like Florida, for example, they expect to have their numbers in for election night, and then you have smaller states, less people, who are telling you it could take days, maybe even weeks. Who knows? And you know, guys, that I don't really swear publicly much anymore, but I'm calling it what it is that's bull, and I don't understand how that's even allowed. How is that even permitted?

Speaker 3: 2:18

So here's and I'm at a little bit of a crossroads with this, because one I want election integrity and accuracy. Yes, I don't necessarily mind a delay that ensures accuracy the tipping point becomes. The longer you delay, the more opportunity there is for nonsense to happen.

Speaker 2: 2:39

Right, and therein lies my problem with a delay, because we've never, this has never been a thing before. Now, all of a sudden, this is a thing. Over the last you know, couple, couple, few elections. Now it's a thing. Now it's suddenly a thing. And I'm sure somebody is going to say, well, you know, the population has grown and more people are voting. No, this can be done, this can be done.

Speaker 2: 3:01

I'm watching, so I'm on, I get and think of this. What you will judge me, if you want people, I get a lot of my news through X. I watch, uh, you know, I I scroll through there a lot and get a lot of the information, and it's not just like one side and information I try and get as much as I can from everywhere. And, yes, you know, a lot of stuff is not a hundred percent accurate, you know, and that's why you keep watching everything. But the things that I'm watching are the widespread instances of of deception, of fraud going on with these ballot places. They're, you know, banning, barring people from entering, from voting, shutting the doors. Basically, they're supposed to be open until like 5 pm in some places. I think we're talking about Philadelphia, you know, this is a major one. They just had a lawsuit. I think I just saw that Trump they put through a lawsuit to I don't know I forget what it was. I think Bucks County or something right.

Speaker 3: 3:57

Yep. So they're keeping it open until Friday at five, bucks County, pennsylvania. So that's huge. But there's also, like you said, there's instances of things not being quite right. Like the ABC local ABC affiliate in Philadelphia has already declared Kamala Harris as the winner. There's a big checkbox right next to her name, as if she already won the election. We still have two days of early voting, let alone actual election day. So again that, you know, while election day awesome Tuesday, you know, we should, you know, be getting results Voting's been going on for a week and a half in some places. I think we voted on my birthday, right. Oklahoma started today early voting, right. So it's this rolling kind of thing. But I think, you know, for most rational, reasonable people, we can avoid a lot of the issues with the simple voter ID. Yes, it's, it's the. I know that certain people don't want that. I understand why they don't want it. I understand. I also understand it's cheating. For the reason they don't want it.

Speaker 2: 5:04

I was gonna say, wait, it's cheating for the reason that they don't want it. I was going to say wait a minute why Somebody has an actual valid reason for not wanting. Is there an actual no?

Speaker 3: 5:12

there's the made up reasons of rural people, who I've heard that, listen, I've lived rurally, I've lived in rural communities. Everybody who needs to have ID has ID. Everybody can get to the polling places, that's not an issue. And then you've got the counter to that, or probably the opposite of that, is the inner city. You know, inner city people who don't have drive, who don't have cars, don't have driver's licenses yes, but they do have ID. And they have ID why?

Speaker 2: 5:38

Because you know you need it for pretty much everything else that you do. You can't travel, you can't buy alcohol, you can't. You know, there's like a laundry list of things that you cannot do without identification to prove you are who you say you are and you're from the country you say you're from. You know, again, it all makes my blood boil. It's all a means to cheat and steal. You know, steal it and, um, you know it's, it's scary that they, they really could make it happen. Oh sure, you know I mean this. I get really frustrated when I see people and I'm I'm glad to see uh, I'm in like-minded uh with uh, charlie Kirk, who I just adore. Um said exactly what I was thinking. You know, when people are saying, oh, we've got this, trump is as good as one, you know you're like stop, just stop, it's not over, until it's over. So I've never been the person to. You know, start cheering and applauding before you cross the finish line. So it makes me, it gives me anxiety when people do that. So I wish they would.

Speaker 3: 6:47

There's two predictors. I don't go by the cookie thing. I mean that's definitely a Pennsylvania right and it's a and oh. By the way, if you check the website for that bakery, they're tracking sales. Like you, they keep it posted. Yeah, it's a murder, Like it's a absolute's a 90, 10, 90 to 10 swing for Trump. I don't, I don't buy that, because it was pretty overwhelmingly that way in the last election and we know how that turned out. Yes, there is an economist, a world renowned economist, who based on he does it based on economic evaluation of the markets, our markets, the movement of the markets as the you know, as the candidates move and things progress, and he has projected not only a Trump win but a complete red sweep. Both houses, which I was a little shocked at, and then the one that I follow and I know it can be somewhat manipulated the betting markets. And I say that because they truly do not care about politics. It is all about them making money. They're bookmakers, that's what they do.

Speaker 3: 7:55

Excellent point and they are almost exclusively. I think I've paid attention to probably four or five of them for this. I'm not a sports betting guy and I'll play some poker, but I'm not a sports betting guy. But right now, across the board, it's anywhere from 63 to 66 percent Trump. Those are, those are the odds right now. That's what all the, all the bookmakers are laying it at. It's like a 66, 67 to 33 kind of odd. So, while I agree with you, it is certainly not a done deal and I don't buy the too big to rig. You know they're trying to make it too big to rig. That's the Trump slogan. Yeah, I don't think it is. I really don't.

Speaker 2: 8:37

I don't either.

Speaker 3: 8:39

I don't either Not getting away with these.

Speaker 2: 8:42

You know extending the I don't know vote counting timeframe, and you know all this behind closed doors and secret rooms and taking boxes of ballots into basements, and you know ballots falling off of trucks and firebombs in ballot boxes. I mean all of the things they are. They are, they know, they know that if it's up to us, trump wins, and they can't have that. So they're, they're, you know, they are desperate and they're wild right now. So I don't think that there is anything any length that they won't go to to not let that man take office.

Speaker 3: 9:22

Yeah, I mean we'll talk desperation and some of the Democrat tactics here in a minute, but in this week you are gonna see more of that. You are gonna see those odd things that'll flash through the news, that you'll see a skip. I remember four years ago I'm sure you do too things like, weeks later, a USPS bucket of ballots being found in a ditch. You know, what.

Speaker 3: 9:46

I mean, I remember that exact story, yeah, yeah, weeks after the election was over it was in the news cycle for about an hour and then it disappeared. So you're going to have those things you know. You're also seeing. You know instances like you talked about, but interestingly, the court cases like Virginia just won right. They just got a decision today from the Supreme Court that said no, there's 16,000 ballots of you know unproven voters out. Right, take those out. The Bucks County thing just happened. You know there's all of this going on in the courts preemptively right when I think in the last few elections. It's all because once Pandora's box is open like you're not going to flip the election over after you know 24 hours.

Speaker 2: 10:32

Well, I think you know that's the only you know saving grace right now that there are people with their cameras and their everything watching every single one of these places you know, or at least all of the places where there's known to be a problem or there's suspected to be a problem. They're being watched like hawks, so every little thing that they do is being scrutinized and then it's getting blasted across all social media and you know, this is one of the times we can complain about social media all we want and the downsides of it, which are more than we can count.

Speaker 2: 11:08

This is one of the good things. It's that accountability and it's that, and what I love about it is that it's it's accountability by the citizens, by us, and I think that says so much for this country right now that you know that we are actively saying absolutely not, You're not pulling the stunt, so thank. I'm so thankful for that.

Speaker 3: 11:28

Yeah, and obviously you know the founding fathers never envisioned this type of technology, social media and that kind of stuff, but they did, I think, with all intents and purposes, envision a citizenry, controlled. You know citizenry, you know influenced election, holding peers accountable kind of thing. Right, election honesty. That was always the intent from the founding fathers. So I think, utilization of technology, like you said, we often lament, complain about it, but this is a case where it's being used and it's being used well and for the right purposes to really keep the election fair and honest as best as it can be across the board. I'm interested though. I mean you know, if you go back four years, tucker Carlson got fired. You know over. You know the ballot box electoral or not electoral, but electronic. You know voting machine, you know controversy. What do you? And then you know, go back to hanging chads. Right, we can go all the way back to 2000 for hanging chads. And so what do you, do you foresee, do you anticipate you know anything like that out of this particular election?

Speaker 2: 12:38

Well, you know, interesting, just before we went on, I happen to be scrolling X and I did see there is somebody and I can. I'm going to have to put up. I'm going to try. I'm going to see how talented I am. Can I talk and scroll at the same time? I don't know if I have that skill. Yeah, oh, my gosh. Thankfully I had it up already.

Speaker 2: 12:54

Secretary of state Jocelyn Benson said this is a Michigan, by the way says that there is a nationwide issue with what? Dominion voter access terminals. What the actual word, I won't say because you know, uh, let's see so nationwide issue with dominion voter access terminals preventing voters from making certain selections. I wonder what those selections could be. Um, according to her office, this programming issue cannot be fixed and voters are being forced to deal with it. Why was this issue not caught during the testing period?

Speaker 2: 13:28

And there's an actual video with this. I'm going to bookmark this so I can try to remember to put it into the show's notes of this woman actually speaking on this, and it will make you want to jump through your phone or your screen and just make you want to jump through your phone or your screen and just, yeah, so you know, I mean, these are known problems, been saying it all along to stop with these machines, go back to the old fashioned hand ballots. You know enough. But here we are dealing with the same BS again and um, yeah, so I wouldn't. Nothing is going to surprise me, Nothing can surprise me at this point.

Speaker 3: 14:04

Yeah, I, I'm, you know, I'm sure Tucker Carlson's laughing his ass off right now. I'm, I guarantee he is, and I'm sure this will come up at some point. You know, in one of his, you know one of his, his broadcasts, or something.

Speaker 2: 14:18

If he ever sued or anything, or if he just said you know what I? I can do better on my own.

Speaker 3: 14:26

He's doing so much better off of fox that I don't think he really cares.

Speaker 3: 14:28

Yeah, I think there's probably some personal, you know, like animosity between him and the folks at fox, I'm sure, um, but as far as you know, regret, I think, at this point, no, although I mean, who doesn't love a good old? I told you so. So, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's got all teed up, but you know, I, I don't know, I don't know what it will be. I'm sure you know whether it's legitimate, valid or not. I'm sure there will be some conspiracy that comes out of this um, from one side or the other, because, you know it, it is hotly contested. Now the question is is it are? Will the loser, whoever it is, whoever it is, will they concede without issue? Is the question.

Speaker 2: 15:11

That is the question. That truly is the question, and I think you're right. I think and we've talked about this before I think no matter who wins, we're not a country that is just going to peaceably go along with whatever it is.

Speaker 2: 15:26

Not right now, one side or the other is is going to give a hard no and uh, we're. You know we're. We're in for some ugly times, for a good period to come, I think. No matter what. No matter what, I'll be honest with you, clay. I told my husband and I don't know if he knows that I'm how serious I am Um, I, I have said numerous times that if she takes office, we are, we're moving to Florida. We're done. We're done here, we are moving. I'm in a blue state. If you guys don't know that already, I'm in a very blue state and um, I, I, it will. All of everything, I think in every blue state will get 10 times worse and I don't want to be here for it. So I'm out.

Speaker 3: 16:09

Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I do think that there is going to be. I do believe for sure that that the Republicans are going to control Congress. So even if she does get elected, I think it's going to be a stalemate for four years. I think absolutely nothing's going to get done. I really hope that's the case.

Speaker 2: 16:25

I hope so.

Speaker 3: 16:26

Yeah, I think, I think that that is a, that's a, that's a given. But I but I do believe truthfully is that, because of the last four years, yeah, no matter who gets elected a week from now, I think that our potential for something significant or catastrophic happening in the United States in the next four years is very hot, Honestly. And it doesn't matter if President Trump gets reelected or Vice President Harris gets elected. I think whatever is going to happen in the next four years, it's probably already here or it's probably already in motion because of what's been allowed to happen during the, the current administration. So, you know, I I agree with you the next four years is going to be a challenge. I think that we are in for some some challenging times, no matter who gets elected.

Speaker 3: 17:12

Um, I think that you know, if, obviously, president Trump gets elected, I think economically we'll be in much better shape, Uh, and I think in security we'll be in much better shape, but I also think it's probably too late. So, you know, and I'm not I'm not a fear monger and I'm not trying to scare people, I just that's my gut feeling. You know, and you're you know, your talk of moving to Florida is indicative of what I think a lot of people believe, which is, you know, if you don't feel safe where you are, you know not going to get any better If Vice President Harris gets elected, so you might as well just pick up and go somewhere where you're around and with like-minded people and, and you know, you can feel a little bit safer in your in your own country, which is a horrible thing to say. I think you're going to see a lot of that.

Speaker 2: 17:52

Yeah, yep, it's, it's a. It's a crazy, crazy times we're living through, for sure, and you know, I don't know. All we can do is hope and pray for the best. Whichever, whichever one, you do hope or pray, whichever. Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what more to say on it. I feel I think the same way that you know, most of this country feels right now, and for different reasons. You know, whichever side you're on, you're very concerned. You're concerned about our choices. I mean, here here, they are right here. You know and I know what I'm picking. I'm sure nobody can tell who I'm picking here, right, I got to put this out, so a dear friend of mine actually made this for me. It's not the sweetest thing ever, it's just, it's gorgeous. I love it, so thoughtful.

Speaker 3: 18:39

Don't put it outside, it'll get. Yes, I know, don't do that. No, no, it's going to stay.

Speaker 2: 18:44

It's going to stay right here in its rightful spot. But, yeah, so I don't know. You know all I, all I can say is just get. If you haven't already get out there and vote, stay in the line, don't get out of line. I think that's like been the big things. Just stay in line. I know, I know it, it sucks, and don't let them intimidate you.

Speaker 2: 19:02

I know there's some of that going on in certain areas. For us it was even though I'm in a blue state, it was a very, very, very peaceful, quiet process. We were there first thing in the morning. The minute the doors opened we walked in, there was a little glitchy Ours are, you know, you color in the little circles for your ballots and it was just glitchy with the signing us in. I don't think there was any hocus pocus going on. I think it was just learning the system. I think there was new people on it. So no real issues, no real problems, totally fine. I think that is going to be what most people find. I think when you get into these concentrated areas, these contested areas, that's maybe where there's concern. But you know, I don't want anybody to be feel deterred from going and voting by any means.

Speaker 3: 19:50

No, please go, Please go vote. I mean, no matter what, I you know the outcome hasn't been decided yet. So, even though I like to say Trump, trump, trump and the betting, the books, and you know the bookies, and and whoever else are making predictions, and you know the bookies, and and whoever else are making predictions, and you know the ABC affiliate in Philadelphia saying opposite, whatever, still, go vote, because nothing's been decided yet. Now, we talked about this last week, so I'm going to propose that on the Elsa Kurtz show Facebook page, that we put a poll up that says you know, would all of you like to do, like us to do a live show for about an hour or so, prime time during election night? I'm willing, you're willing.

Speaker 3: 20:30

I'm willing, but I don't want it to be me and you sitting here talking yeah, nobody's gonna watch us.

Speaker 2: 20:36

Make us feel bad, make us feel like losers.

Speaker 3: 20:40

I would love to have, I'd love to have a bunch of fans on there. That would be great, that would be fun and we will.

Speaker 2: 20:45

um, I've done a couple once in a while I'll do like a live uh, solo, live, just hang out with uh, hang out with people on there and chit chat, and you know, if you have questions or comments, whatever we'll, we'll put it up on the screen. You can see, see yourself, you can see your name if you want it to be up there. Um, you know, put you right up there, We'll talk about whatever you want to talk about. Um, obviously, if you're going to put something crude and rude, I'm going to see it and you're not getting put up there. But you know, anybody normal and sane we'll, we'll put your questions and comments up there. So, yeah, it's actually a lot of fun to do and I would love to do it.

Speaker 2: 21:17

Clay would love to do it, but it's really up to whether or not you would love to. So, let us know. I'll put that poll up. I literally had to write myself a note because I forget everything. So bad. But yes, I'll put the poll up and we'll find out and then we'll know very shortly. Well, I don't know, what should we do it for? Like, put the poll up for like what Over the weekend?

Speaker 3: 21:37

Let's do it for Sunday, okay, okay, and then that gives you and I monday to to figure out what we're going to do and get the mechanics right and all that stuff, and then we'll let folks know. So I think let's call it. Let's call it sunday, uh, before football starts, because right so, one o'clock east coast time, noon central, you know, 11 mountain, 10 pacific. I'll do the math, you're good.

Speaker 2: 21:59

You knew all of those right off the top of your head I lived in all of of the.

Speaker 3: 22:02

I lived in all the time zones. So I I've been there, but, yeah, so we'll do all those. That'll be the deadline, right? So football on Sunday is the deadline Also. We'll put it up and we'll make a decision Sunday afternoon evening or Monday morning and we'll let you all know if we're going to wait. You know it's, this is going to be a probably a 9 pm, right, I think so, and we should maybe have some kind of idea. Yeah, it'll be a little closer to you know, getting a decision. So we'll see. But, changing topics though, although not too far, you said desperation. You said desperation earlier, right, there's desperation right now. And you know what, what has what Messiah of celebrity guests? It's this chick here, beyonce. If you don't know, if you don't follow along, with the music culture or whatever you know.

Speaker 2: 23:17

So she has been put I don't. So crazy. To me this woman is considered to be such an icon. You know, such a powerful. She sings some catchy tunes. I don't get it Like. I used to like her music. I don't like any of these people anymore. I don't, I don't. I don't listen to any of it as, as some of you know, I only listen to Christian music these days. So I don't even know any new songs that are out right now, unless it's a TikTok soundbite. Those are the I know like a few seconds of. You know a bunch of songs and somebody go. You know that song. I'm like not really, I just know it from TikTok, but anyhow don't let me go, you're supposed to not let me go off course.

Speaker 2: 23:55

No, okay, I'm back. I brought myself back around. You knew I would come around.

Speaker 3: 24:07

So they brought her out. Right, and the assumption now, this is the second time this has happened. Right, so they brought her out into this. You know, big old rally and everybody thought they were going to get a free Beyonce concert and again, no performance, no performance. And, yes, people are, they're one. I can't believe. You know, fool me once. Right, this is like the best case ever, right, right, um, but you know, she didn't perform and people are pissed, well, right.

Speaker 2: 24:25

She spoke for like two minutes, I think it was.

Speaker 3: 24:28

I think it was four and, interestingly enough, you know and I only saw bits and pieces of the you know four whole minutes that she was up there, but, you know, started it off with a as a mother, right, as a mother statement, and then, I think, spent the next three and a half minutes talking about abortion rights, which totally makes sense.

Speaker 2: 24:47

Yeah, yeah, so. So there's that.

Speaker 3: 24:53

now here's one that I saw today, not just maybe an hour or so before we started recording, and this one is a little bit, and we'll get to the Republican side in a second folks, because there is something to talk about there, but Julia Roberts did you see this, oh my God.

Speaker 2: 25:08

So I actually want to make a spoof video, a response video to that. If I have enough time, I'm going to do it, oh my goodness.

Speaker 3: 25:14

I can't believe this. So her statement was and listen, she was 100 percent targeting white suburban women. Yes, a hundred percent. A hundred percent.

Speaker 3: 25:26

So you know another demographic that they're losing, right? So Julia Roberts' message was to all she didn't say white, suburban women, but that's who she was talking to yeah, if you have to lie to your husband and go out and vote for Kamala because it's the right thing to do, right? Literally one, saying that women don't have the capacity, the freedom to to, you know, vote, you know, in a different direction than their spouse, right that they're being. There are such a bevy of women out there being controlled by their husbands that she has to encourage them to lie, controlled by their husbands, that she has to encourage them to lie. Two, if you're identifying the fact that there are that many women who are in that kind of situation, you probably need to be making another message other than go ahead and lie to them. Go ahead and put yourself at risk. Yeah, exactly, the whole thing is just so screwy it's so outrageously insulting to women.

Speaker 2: 26:24

It is so incredibly insulting that you're making the statement. Essentially, you are saying that because I am a conservative woman, a married conservative woman, it must be because I'm too weak to think for myself and I have to do whatever. And I'm afraid of my husband and I have to do whatever my husband says because I live in fear to not do what he tells me to do. Like this is what you're portraying conservative women as, like hon, do you know which one of us goes out to the shooting range? I don't really feel very fragile. Like, do you, do you have any idea of what we're made of Cause? Clearly you don't. And if you think for one minute that we're going to be these little cowering little sheep that go, you know, and secretly vote for that ridiculous woman, I can't. It is so insulting. Like, if they didn't lose people before that should make them lose the female vote, you know, I know you're going to keep all.

Speaker 2: 27:27

They're going to keep all their blue haired. Uh, you know, abortion, loving, lbdtq, xyz, trans, blah, blah, blah. They're going to keep all of them. They're not going to get rid of them, they're not going to lose any of them. But anyone else? You know, and of course I think you know, and of course I think you know everybody's targeting right now the undecided voters, the ones that are either undecided or not wanting to vote at all, and you know I hope this motivates them to say, oh geez, well, I got to do it now. Now you force me to do it. I wasn't going to, but now I'm going to.

Speaker 3: 27:56

Yeah, I just I can't One. It's that, you know, the trotting out of the celebrities, like one so much of america is just so sick of being talked to, talked down to by celebrities, right? I mean, you know they had, uh, bruce springsteen shut up, don't care, right? You know that all this, even and I'll be honest with you, I I'm not a mark walberg fan, I'm not, um. I met the guy in person once a long time ago, thoroughly unimpressed, um, but he came out at the Trump rally and I get it.

Speaker 3: 28:24

He gets up every day and goes to mass at like 5 am, like every single day. He's very devout Catholic and I have a feeling he is a single issue voter, my guess. And he did the whole. If you don't like it, get out of it. And he talked it down to some other celebrities. Listen, I don't care about Mark Wahlberg's opinion. I don't care about Beyonce's opinion. I really don't care about Julia Roberts' opinion, hulk Hogan, kid Rock, I don't, I don't care. Like we all have to stop, you know, being influenced by these folks. But it is clear that the left is in a very, very desperate time, that they're pulling out all the big guns, right?

Speaker 2: 29:03

Yeah, I mean it's backfiring. This worked for them once upon a time. You know this was, you know it was, like you know, or Beyonce is going to vote for Kamala Harris, or you know. Back then you know who was a Biden, or whatever. It worked for them at one point. And then everybody, like you, said everybody got sick and tired of it. Like listen, you live in mansions. I think it probably started around the time they started. You know telling us about our reducing our carbon footprint when they fly in. You know flying on your private jet to do a 30 second PSA on climate change Not not really going to be your winning choice there, but Well, and then so, okay, so let's talk about the other side, right?

Speaker 3: 29:47

So we had the you know, and I'm going to screw up his name, but that is so. President Trump had an insult comic. I hope that everybody understands what an insult comic is. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:58

I don't think that they do. I really don't. I don't think, and that goes for people on the right as well. I think a lot of people did not know who he was, didn't know what he did, didn't know that this was his, his shtick, basically, and you know, a lot of people were stunned.

Speaker 3: 30:16

I'm getting his name.

Speaker 2: 30:27

Yeah, tony, his show is Kill Tony, right, tony? Hinchcliffe, hinchcliffe. That's it. You got it. Thank you, I I'll be honest. I I did not know who he was. I don't. It's. I'll be perfectly honest here. It's not my kind of humor. I don't care for it. I never have it. It makes me, uh, it gives me anxiety. I don't like it. Um, but he's well known for, like, one of the biggest things he did fairly recently was roasting Tom Brady. It was vicious. He's not alone.

Speaker 3: 30:49

Listen for all of the older crowd. This is the dirtiest version of Don Rickles that you can imagine. That's who these people are. Don Rickles was the master. He was the original.

Speaker 2: 31:02

The guy went after Johnny Carson. It was a whole show. They did the Celebrity Roast yeah right, dean Martin, all those guys.

Speaker 3: 31:09

Now they still do them. It's filthy, right, and I understand the anxiety, but there's a whole crew of people that this is all they do, and Hinchcliffe is one of them, right? So so he made the joke about Puerto Rico, right, and the the the lead into the joke was, you know, he was talking about this massive floating island of garbage, right, and he, you know I think those of us who are even remotely aware of the world itself knows that there is this massive floating island of garbage in the ocean Right. And then he did the left turn thing and he said and it's known as Puerto Rico, right, or something to that effect, right, and and okay, bad joke, not the right audience, not the right. You know Trump's team. Truthfully, they either failed in that they vetted him and approved the joke, or they didn't vet him hard enough and keep him in line and he went a little off the tracks and used a joke that was unapproved, right. Either way, it's a failure, right. The guy probably shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Speaker 2: 32:07

But yeah, he was not. You know from what I watched, he was not overall, his jokes were not well received by the crowd and he acknowledged it from the stage you can hear. So a lot of groaning for that one, a lot of groaning, or you know whatever he said. And then he said something. He made a P Diddy joke and everybody liked that, like this is where, and you know, they kind of let them know like, no, this is, this is the right direction, that not so much. So, um, yeah, so I a hundred percent agree with anyone and everyone saying you know, bad choice, bad choices, um, wrong wrong time, wrong place, wrong everything. Really, if you get that type of humor and you like that type of humor, maybe you thought it was fine. Again, I'm not a woke liberal and I'm not going to clutch my pearls over it. I just simply acknowledge that not the best choice.

Speaker 2: 32:55

Interestingly enough, the the joke, the joke. I cause. I looked it up. I'm like well, why would he, oh my gosh, why would he say something like that? Why would he call Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage? I don't get the joke, I didn't understand it. You know why he would say that.

Speaker 2: 33:09

So I looked it up and lo and behold, puerto Rico has a huge, massive problem with garbage, with waste, and this is an ongoing issue for years, going back, I think, maybe even further than the Hurricane Maria, which of course, decimated them, and the response for aid was challenged, everything. And of course, it turns out that Trump actually sent tons of aid, like millions of dollars of aid, to them, and it was mismanaged, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. But this has been a widely reported, ongoing problem that Puerto Rico is under this. So I made a video about it, basically saying all of that and saying well, you know, if anything good can come from it, then maybe they'll get some aid to help clean that up. And you know, or the people in charge who are not doing what they're supposed to there, will feel shamed into trying to fix this problem. You know. So there's a little bit of irony and all that.

Speaker 2: 34:06

And of course, there are people on the left that you know lost their ever loving mind and, and you know, said some not very nice things to me and really hurt my feelings. I'm just kidding, I could care less, but you know, so that's the interesting part about that, like kind of like the side story to that that it actually maybe put a spotlight on a genuine, actual problem that's going on. So go figure, but either way, of course, the left jumped on it. You know, like, like, like, rabid dogs jumped on it and made the entire thing, besides calling it a Nazi rally, right. And yeah, can you imagine that? Can you even imagine I mean, we can pause for a minute and just sit in awe of that that they are comparing a presidential rally of course being that it's Trump to a Nazi or a Klan rally?

Speaker 3: 34:52

I think that's what they're calling it. So they use the Nazi rally specifically because there was a pro-Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden, the old version in 1938.

Speaker 2: 35:03

in Madison Square Garden the old version, Right right In 1938. Right, and nothing had ever been in the Madison Square Garden since then. Right.

Speaker 3: 35:09

There's never been another thing, not at all. Not a Hillary Clinton rally. No, it wasn't one of those. Marilyn Monroe didn't sing to JFK for his birthday at Madison Square Garden. That didn't happen either.

Speaker 2: 35:18

No never yeah, it's never been.

Speaker 3: 35:28

Yeah, billy Joel, you know, never had sold out a hundred shows there, as a Jew didn't do a hundred shows there. Yeah, so it's got blown. You know it got blown up, blown out of proportion. You know the Nazi rally, you know comments, the fascist, this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And. And then, of course, you get the capper from the commander in chief, who turned around and expressed his take your banner down. There we go.

Speaker 2: 35:47

There we go yeah.

Speaker 3: 35:49

So he said it and, of course, you know he declared all Trump supporters garbage. The only thing I see coming out of that is, you know, the only garbage I see coming out of this, his supporters Right and now I have it here, let's just play for everybody.

Speaker 2: 36:02

Somebody will say he didn't really say that, you're taking out of context.

Speaker 5: 36:05

oh yeah, here you go or puerto rico, where I'm in my home state of delaware. They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His, his demonization scene is unconscionable and it's un-american sorry, my bad.

Speaker 2: 36:22

so unfortunately, the only truly coherent part or unfortunately for him the only coherent part was the part where he called us all a bunch of pile of floating garbage. Yeah, very bad job reading off the teleprompter too, right.

Speaker 3: 36:38

They've been walking it backward. You know, jean-claude Van Damme, standing at the podium, has been walking it backwards and saying he was talking about the comedian. No, he was not.

Speaker 2: 36:45

No, he was not he was not. No, no, and we can't. Just in case somebody wants to question that we're going to play it again.

Speaker 5: 36:55

Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware, they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters.

Speaker 3: 37:03

The only garbage I see out there is his supporters Very clear statement he's not talking about the comedian, which is what you know. Jean-claude Van Damme's trying to convince us he was talking about the comedian. No, he was not, and so we've got yet another, you know, from the party of unity. Right the adult in the room.

Speaker 3: 37:23

The joy and unity party and the adult, the adult in the room, remember, from four years ago. What we're getting is more of the same. And so, you know, you take that, you add that, so you got that. That the basket of deplorables, right, we've all been a part of for a while, so now we're deplorable garbage. And and then, you know, just keep going backwards, right, you know, as President Obama, even even First Lady Michelle Obama, right, they go high. Or when they go low, we go high and hang out.

Speaker 3: 37:52

Called Vance a weirdo, you know, use all the same monikers for President Trump misogynist, racist, fascist, all that crap. Right, and then you've got President Obama. Over the last couple of weeks, we talked about him talking very, very condescendingly to the African-American males. He did it again this week and said you know, you know, male Trump supporters they don't they. They think that his you know, the way that he conducts himself is, is a show of strength, you know, and he went through with all these qualifiers and the last one that he said was you know, the way that you treat people with dignity and respect is showing real strength. So let's go back in time. Yeah, right, so Hillary clearly wasn't showing any strength using deplorable, right, he and his own just words earlier basically said he doesn't. You know people Trump male Trump supporters don't know what they're talking about. They don't know what real strength is. Let me tell you what real. So, again, condescendingly, that's not dignity and respect, right, you know, and so it's more of the same crap and unfortunately it's bleeding downward.

Speaker 3: 38:53

You know, I know you're seeing it because you're like you've been targeted with it, but I'm seeing it all over social media. You know, friends and family members attacking Trump supporters, friends and family members, solely because of a post, right, and it's not a post, like you know, if I, if you were a Biden supporter and I was a Trump supporter and I and I posted something, I'm not attacking you, but you turn around and attack me personally. It's crazy the level of me personally. It's crazy the level of not the level of anger and vicious. It's the people who are doing it. These are normal, average people who have been poisoned by this mindset and it's absolutely ridiculous. I wrote a blog on it. You can check it out. It's out there all over the place, but it's this whole thing is. It's poisonous the level.

Speaker 2: 39:42

I'll tell you, clay, the level of hatred, like rage filled hatred that these people just spew for having, for having different beliefs over politics. Like it's so crazy to me, like the things that I have I have firsthand experienced of people thinking it's okay to say to me and to message me and to even go so far as to email me. Like I've had people who it wasn't enough to just comment on the post, they had to direct message me, you know, through messenger. Then they had to also send an email just to make sure I really knew how much they hated me and hope that I die. And I'm not kidding you when I tell you that these people will say I hope you die, I hope you know the things are vile.

Speaker 2: 40:34

And then you know, and I've said, you know, on occasion I've, I've told my uh, the people who follow my content, you know I, I apologize to them that I don't, I don't read my messages because I like, I like, I like feeling good, I like feeling healthy and sane and not being baited. Um, you know, cause my problem is, is I, I, I like to fight back, you know. So I, you know I have to have to go with my better nature and, and really honestly I would, I would. There is a strong part of me that still lives large, that I do want to fight them back and go just as hard against them. But the reality is these are and I'm genuine when I they are unhinged, they are not okay. These are the people that will show up at your house, you know, and or tell you know everybody your home address, find out where your family works, find out your you know. This is how unhinged and unhealthy these people are. They're not, yeah, they're not right in the head.

Speaker 3: 41:39

And that party has amassed them. Yeah, and there's, you know, back to the desperation. This is because they're starting to lose so many of the demographics that they've just assumed in the past, right, and so we've talked in the last couple of weeks about African-American males. Right, they're losing African-American males. They're losing a lot of the Latino vote, right, even they thought the border policy was going to be great for it. It's not because the Latinos that are here who did things the right way, who you know and I hate to remind them, but Latinos have a tendency to be just unbelievably Catholic, so, like they have a higher, you know that that demographic is out, I mean it's a big thing, but now they're also losing the Muslim population.

Speaker 2: 42:19

Yes, yes, this is why?

Speaker 3: 42:19

Right, so it's a Michigan, michigan mayor. Right, there's a Muslim mayor in a deeply Muslim city. Yeah, who is? You know? A huge Trump supporter came out publicly, right, you know huge Trump supporter came out publicly Right, and they're starting to see that in more places around the United States because of the way the you know the truthfully that the current administration has not taken a stance on Israel and Iran and Hamas and Hezbollah. It's not because they've chosen Israel, because they really haven't. It's because they're not doing anything.

Speaker 2: 42:53

They're not doing anything. No one's home. All the lights are on and nobody's home there.

Speaker 3: 42:58

Yeah, and I firmly believe that. You know, and I spent a lot of time in those countries, everybody knows that and I made a lot of good friends there, and I'm not one of those people who assumes that all you know, all Muslims are not bad people. Far, far, far from it. Ok, what the Muslims want, the Muslim population, especially here in the United States, is what everybody wants, which is peace. They want the frigging war Right. They don't like being associated with those terrorists, those extremist organizations. They want all this to end and the fact that the Democrats have turned into war hawks and the fact that they're keeping this going and they're not taking a stance to stop this. Oh, by the way, you and I have said president Trump can stop this at the drop of a hat, right, and he will. That's what they're looking for and, again, that's why the Democrats are losing this demographic and they're panicking. It's absolute panic.

Speaker 2: 43:44

I don't know if you knew this, I didn't know this, but Trump's daughter, tiffany Trump, her, her husband, is Lebanese American. He's a Lebanese American, but her father in law is a very successful, high profile businessman and he has been busy, you know, amassing a following for Trump in that community. So, you know, you never. You never know. I mean, like you said's, uh, some huge groups that that backed him. Um, let 's see. Former is projected to win the arab american muslim vote and the ultra and also the ultra orthodox jewish vote, which is so wild. Right, that is like the wildest thing ever, and it's you said he's, he's a racist, right fast, he's all those things right all those things except for the fact that he's not and everybody's through the bullshit Right.

Speaker 3: 44:34

So he's got two son in laws, one's a Muslim and one's Jew. Right, yes. I'm sure if he was a racist and a fascist, he would be really allowing that in his house.

Speaker 2: 44:43

Right, exactly, I mean, it's just, it's. It would be. It would be laughable, right, if there weren't so many people who took this all to heart, you know, and believed it hook line and sinker, despite all of the evidence smack in your faces telling you otherwise. But no, just listen to what you know. The white house says and the mainstream state-run media say.

Speaker 3: 45:05

Just listen to them because clearly they've had your best interests at heart this whole time and we've got another example of that as JD Vance walked into CNN, sat down with Jake Tapper and slapped him around a little bit with the truth while Walson AOC were on Twitch playing football.

Speaker 2: 45:23

Yeah, yeah, I can't even, I just you know why?

Speaker 3: 45:28

it's another demographic. They're trying to appeal to young males, right, yes, so they. You know they get the pretty girl who's dumb as a post. Let's be honest, right, yeah, they get her. They get Walsh, who clearly was not a football coach like he claims to be, because he said she runs a pretty good, a pretty mean pick six, which is not a play Like if you know anything about football?

Speaker 2: 45:47

Yeah, and then Vance tore that apart too right. Vance busted him on that.

Speaker 3: 45:52

So, while he's stepping in and he's sitting down with people like Tapper and tearing them apart, we talked about Martha Raddatz and him right.

Speaker 3: 45:59

And he's doing it with a smile and he's doing it as a gentleman, right, he's taking on the tough ones and he's doing a great job. And he let Tapper have it because it was about, you know, the Russia hoax and the collusion and everything else. And you know the Russia hoax and the collusion and everything else, and you know, tapper was saying well, well, but Trump said this and he's like your whole network's a fraud. And let me explain to you why. You're in the middle of it. And he laid it out for him and then oh, by the way, pulled another coup just yesterday or this morning. So the Kamala Harris, joe Rogan interview fell apart, right, harris, joe.

Speaker 3: 46:32

Rogan interview fell apart because she said come to me, and only for an hour, which would have turned out just like the Brett Baer report. Right, all of her handlers would have been there, they would have cut it short, it would have started late, all that crap. Rogan said no, not doing it. And who swoops in? Jd Vance, he's like. I'll do three hours, will you?

Speaker 2: 46:50

He's like sure, why not? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you can't, I just don't I. It cannot get more clear and more obvious, and this is why I get so frustrated. Clay like how much clearer can this get? You have one side who's hiding behind handlers and scripts, and you know fully orchestrated meet and greets that are, you know, just photo ops and idiots playing video games together, while Trump and Vance and RFK Jr and Vivek and Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaker 3: 47:26

They are all out there every day multiple stops a day.

Speaker 2: 47:28

They are all out there every day, multiple stops a day, just taking it all on positive, negative, combative, whatever it is. They're just saying bring it, bring more. You know, they put on their war paint and they're like keep going. I can do this all freaking day.

Speaker 3: 47:45

And they do.

Speaker 2: 47:46

And they do, and they do yeah, it has been incredible to watch Trump alone Obviously, first and foremost Trump alone to to know his schedule. I think I think I was on TikTok that I saw a video from somebody in his you know, probably runs his social media or at least for that platform, and she did a little like spend the day, you know, spend the day with us, a day in the life. And you know it was like I think he made four you know multi-state stops um, sat for interviews, stayed like he does. We talked about this state after longer, signed things you know, answered questions, then did like an impromptu thing with somebody. You know this is what he does. He's not, he's completely fearless and you know that's what I want for a president right there. Doesn't shy away from anything. Again, I said it last week, I'll say it this week. Sure, he may say more than you want him to say. He may say in a colorful way, in an inelegant way, but you're gonna get the truth from him every damn time. So I'll take it.

Speaker 3: 48:45

Yeah, the guy's a machine and his whole team is right and he's already his team. In fact, I heard a great you know he, rfk because Trump would never say this out loud, or at least I don't think he has, but I know RFK said it the other day is that you know, president Trump found the fault in the late transition planning from, you know time into office. So from election day you know declared the winner to the time that he got inaugurated. You know he built the transition team and he got, he got convinced to hire a bunch of people that he knows now were the wrong people to hire. He admits it, he screwed up because he didn't know any better.

Speaker 3: 49:18

You know, he, he, he hired and this was part of the Rogan discussion, right, you know he hired. You know he brought on people from the oil industry to to be part of that. You know energy commission. He brought on you know, all these lobbyists and all this other stuff and he knows it was a mistake and he admits it. But what they said is that this has never happened before. But he has already out of his own pocket funding to his transition team to make sure that it goes the way that it's supposed to. Yeah, never been done before. Again, finding a solution to things once he knows there's a problem and he pays for it, making sure it goes better than last time. And again he screwed up and he admits it. You said it like this is the guy that you want, and that's why.

Speaker 2: 50:00

Yeah, that's why I look at the look. I mean again, look at the people that he is putting on that to Elon Musk. Are you kidding me? Richest man in the is he the richest man in the world? I mean pretty close to it. If he's not right, absolutely brilliant. He's a literal genius. This guy is going to fix stuff. Rfk that man's wealth of knowledge, again, incredible. Tulsi Gabbard tough as nails, love her to pieces. Vivek, I mean you, look at this team that he is assembling.

Speaker 3: 50:28

I'm not a Vivek fan. I'm not a Vive fan, I'm not a big fan I would have.

Speaker 2: 50:31

I never was a fan of his. As far as a presidential candidate, I think there was a place for him. I did not trust him at all. Used car salesman yeah, yes, I did not trust him. He spoke a little too well for me actually. I know it's a terrible thing to say, but I'm with you on that actually, but I think it plugged into the right spot. I think he could be highly, highly, highly beneficial. Again, I love what he just did. Another he pulled an Elon Musk. He bought uh right, uh, buzzfeed. If you guys don't know what Buzzfeed is, it's a very uh left, leftist digital mag. You know um online magazine, whatever. You know, everything is very leftist. So he just hopped on a plane and went over there. He's the second largest outside shareholder yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:15

And went to have a nice little meeting with him to tell him who they're going to be hiring and what types of things they're going to be putting out. I'm like, oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is what we have needed. We've needed independent people who are not in the pockets of big pharma, big tech, big whoever that they are independently wealthy and don't need these people. They're not going to be swayed by any greed stuff.

Speaker 3: 51:43

Listen, we're not going to get to that last topic, because there's one other thing that I think we need to talk about, and it's related to this, is the fact that whether you know whether the big CEOs are trying to make nice with president Trump cause they know he's going to win. I think that's part of it. They're business guys. They're not idiots, right. They know that they've poked the bear too many times and they, they know that the bear, the bear's coming back. You know they're. They're trying to get back in line, but I think you're.

Speaker 3: 52:07

You're also seeing a trend. You, you saw the op-ed from Bezos after the Post said that they are not endorsing a candidate, and he basically said listen, we need to stop doing this. We as an industry, need to stop doing this. We need to stop endorsing candidates. We should be providing unbiased, and some of that may have been pandering to President Trump specifically, but there's been a couple of other news outlets that have done the same thing followed his lead and not just not endorsed, but endorsed what he said in his op-ed. The media sucks right now and everybody hates the media because we're very, very biased and we need to stop this. So you're starting to see some changes, even in the days. We know we have a week left. We've said it, you're seeing people, which is you know.

Speaker 2: 52:56

we can look at that as being a huge indicator of where they think things are going. Those are big moves from huge people you know in the financial business world. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 53:08

And there was an outcry. You know, people attacked the staff at the post. They went crazy, they went crazy, they went after Bezos and he basically told them all to shut up and go to work.

Speaker 2: 53:18

Yeah. What a good boss, people resign Right, some people left.

Speaker 3: 53:21

Yeah, 200000 subscribers. Yeah. My favorite, and I'll say this because I said on social media and I'm going to say it again, stephen King right Out and said he was canceling his subscription to the Washington Post because he can't believe this and it's the wrong thing to do, and blah, blah, blah blah. But I'm pretty sure if you go to Amazon right now, you will see Stephen King's books being sold on Amazon.

Speaker 2: 53:44

Oh, funny, funny. He's not pulling his books off of there, but why Off of the?

Speaker 3: 53:47

other Bezos owned enterprise. So he's not going to do that.

Speaker 2: 53:52

Yeah, he's a man of no principle.

Speaker 2: 53:59

It's really none whatsoever. None whatsoever. And I he's probably. If I were to say I was at all remotely heartbroken about any of these celebrity you know, lane people, he might be the one I would have said, because I was a huge fan of his books growing up. I always liked his books and you know it's no surprise that he's nuts. I mean, look at the books that he's written. I mean, it's not that it's a surprise, it's just such a bummer because it takes away your your enjoyment of those things. But whatever it is what it is there, you know, I always appreciate when they show their true colors. I am, I am actually glad when they come out of the woodwork like this and they show their craziness Because, again, it just tells you what you want to be around and what you don't want to be around. So it's all good, keep coming out with your craziness. You know, people like Pink and whoever else Keep going, keep going guys.

Speaker 3: 54:46

The Internet does what the Internet does and when they do stuff like that, then you know somebody inevitably, and the millions and millions of people that are out there will catch on to. The Stephen King thing is a prime example. I'm canceling my subscription and you know he puts it on X, like if you want to cancel it, fine, that's great, cancel it, nobody cares Nobody freaking cares dude.

Speaker 3: 55:05

Put it on X and then somebody goes are you, are you canceling all your books off of Amazon too? You know immediate right. And then it goes viral. Yeah, so you know they're being kept in check again. It kind of goes back to one of our first you know talking points, which is, you know, the citizenry, through the use of of social media, is keeping things in line in, I think, a different way than we've seen in the recent past. I think it's a good thing. I really hope that this Everything in the next week goes smoothly. You know, a week, you know, on election night and immediately following, because I think that's our probably our riskiest spot. But just a reminder, elsa's going to put up a poll and we can either hang out with you guys On election night or we can just, you know, sit in our PJs in front of the TV and you know, and maybe, maybe Elsa will even do the show in her PJs. You never can.

Speaker 2: 55:54

I might. It could happen. I'm wearing my sweatpants right now. You didn't even know until I told y'all why would I just throw myself under the bus like that?

Speaker 1: 56:01

Whatever, I don't care I don't care, it's okay.

Speaker 2: 56:03

Tmi, right, tmi? Um, so, yeah, look for that poll. Um, probably tomorrow morning. I'm going to put that out tomorrow morning and uh, yeah, we look forward to hearing what your thoughts were. I mean, we're not going to be insulted if you don't want to watch it. We know you have busy lives, all that kind of stuff, um, but you know, either way, either way, we're all good guys, we're all good and, um, we look forward to to seeing you the next time that we see. Case is it's all good or both. Maybe it'll be both or both or both. All right, guys Clay, you close them out, please.

Speaker 3: 56:35

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Speaker 2: 57:03

I know usually.

Speaker 3: 57:04

Yeah, hey, folks, I will see you next week and maybe we'll see you live on Tuesday, but in the meantime, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2: 57:11

Take care guys.

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