Defending the Constitution with Mark Deluzio

Can Marxism be fought with the tools of the Constitution? Gold star father and host of "Constitution Solution," Mark Deluzio, brings his insights to the table, exploring the influence of Marxism on our society and the ways to resist it. We navigate the murky waters of alleged assassination attempts on President Donald Trump, questioning official narratives and the role of insider threats. With reflections on historical political violence, we consider the current climate's impact on political figures and draw lessons from past security failures.

The conversation takes a critical look at the current administration's approach to political violence, unity, and the narratives that might divide rather than unite us. We examine the hypocrisy of labeling political opponents in extreme terms, touching on foreign policy stances and the intricate ties between politics and military contractors. Remembering the service members lost during the Afghan pullout, we challenge claims of a casualty-free administration, scrutinizing the broader implications of military engagement and the influence of the military-industrial complex.

We venture into the realm of constitutional misconceptions and the power dynamics at play within federal agencies. Deluzio passionately discusses the Tenth Amendment and the concept of nullification, using historical examples to highlight state power against federal overreach. Our discussion expands to address the Federal Reserve's role in economic stability, exposing concerns about digital currency and inflation control. Through the lens of class warfare, we question societal perceptions of success and the lingering effects of greed and jealousy on economic policies. Plus, don't miss the announcement of Elsa Kurtz's "Welcome to Chance," promising a compelling narrative return in a quaint New England setting.

Chapters

• 0:00 Assassination Attempts and Fighting Marxism
• 7:10 Defending America Against Tyranny
• 15:42 Understanding Constitutional Misconceptions
• 28:49 Understanding Nullification and Unconstitutional Agencies
• 35:45 Challenging Unconstitutional Agencies
• 46:43 Understanding the Federal Reserve System
• 51:46 Reforming the Federal Reserve and Marxism
• 1:02:06 The Pitfalls of Class Warfare
• 1:09:36 Elsa Kurtz's Return to Chance

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's time for the Elsa Kurtz Show interview series. Tonight's guest gold star father, author, successful businessman and host of Constitution Solution one podcast under God Mark Deluzio.

Speaker 2: 0:13

Well, hello, my friends. As you can see, right beside me, sort of kind of, is my friend, mark Deluzio. He is back again. We are wrapping up, as promised, our conversation about Marxism and if you haven't seen it, please go watch it. I think it's a great episode, if I may say so myself. There's a lot of great information in there from Mark, not from me but it was a great conversation and, you know, we kind of left it off at well, we talked about the problem quite a bit, and you know that's pretty common.

Speaker 2: 0:46

I think that we all collectively like to talk about the problem, point out the problem, but how do we fight this? What are the? You know, what are the solutions? I don't know if solution is the right word. I think fight against it is really the phrase that we're probably really looking for, right? So that's what we're going to be talking about today, and we would be absolutely remiss if we didn't at least touch on the second assassination attempt of President Donald Trump. And I love to always say President, donald Trump, because they get so mad when I don't say former president and they get in the comments and like don't call him President Trump, he's not the president. I'm like if it makes you mad. You know, I'm going to do it now. So there you go, there you have it Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2: 1:31

Most importantly, welcome back. Thanks for joining me.

Speaker 3: 1:34

Thanks, I feel like I'm a boomerang you throw me out and I come back.

Speaker 2: 1:36

You know, just whip you right around.

Speaker 3: 1:49

No, glad to be here. I love, I love what you guys are doing and just glad to be part of what you're doing, because I think getting the word out, by the way, which is going to be one of the six or seven things I talk about today with nullification, with pushing back on Marxism, by the way, is things like this like shows, like what you're doing. And, by the way, just a word on President Trump. You and I talked about it prior to this. They're not going to stop Elsa, they're not going to stop going after him and you cannot count on the government.

Speaker 3: 2:11

If you really think through and I know, maybe you know again sounding like a black helicopter conspiracy theorist but there's enough evidence now to say that JFK was killed by our own government. So was Robert F Kennedy, probably Martin Luther King and all the other assassination attempts on Reagan and all that. None of these guys act alone and you know the incompetence that we've seen with the Secret Service. You know I said on one of your other shows that, looking at the Afghan pullout, it was so screwed up and I could not have improved on the screw ups.

Speaker 3: 2:52

Right, you couldn't have screwed up more if you were, and when you look at what's going on here just some of the basic, basic, basic stuff as it relates to security You've got to argue that it's intentional. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 3:07

Yeah, you look at the timeframe right. So this guy was there for 12 hours set up around.

Speaker 2: 3:13

You know, that's the as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong on any points. Now, the latest Intel that I got Intel that I got, it's not Intel, it's just public knowledge the latest that I heard was that he was there, they know, because of a phone ping, since, from like 1.30 in the morning, of course, the incident happened around like 1.30 in the afternoon. This was and here's the clincher really of everything that tells you a whole heck of a lot that this was an unscheduled outing. You know that this was kind of a last minute thing.

Speaker 2: 3:44

Trump decided that, you know, I feel like playing some golf, let's. You know that this was kind of a last minute thing. Trump decided that, you know, I feel like playing some golf, let's. You know, let's set that up, let's do that. And so, of course, the question is how does it? How does a guy who is from North Carolina, lives in Hawaii, how does he get to Florida in the exact time frame, basically, that he needs to be there in a location that he doesn't belong in, you know, and have this possible opportunity? How does that happen? You know, all you can imagine is that someone on the inside, you know, tipped him off.

Speaker 3: 4:18

I don't know what else to say. I mean I was watching, dan Bongino the other day testified in front of Congress and you know, bongino was the next Secret Service Right, and some of the things that he came out with, I mean, you know, there is absolutely no question in my mind that this is not an accident and this is not incompetence. Yeah, you know so, and I just think President Trump should take the move now and just get his own security detail, yes, and tell the Secret Service to go screw.

Speaker 2: 4:45

Yeah, I really wish he would, I wish he would?

Speaker 3: 4:47

You can't trust him for anything you know, no, you can't Not at this point no, no I love.

Speaker 2: 4:52

You know, one of the interviews, recent interviews with Kamala, they asked her, you know, does she feel safe? Do you feel safe, you know, and she and she's I feel safe. Well, of course you feel safe. Of course you do, and I'm not throwing any accusations out, I'll just leave it right there.

Speaker 3: 5:10

Yeah, sometimes what you don't say is pretty powerful.

Speaker 2: 5:13

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 5:14

But there's a whole thing too with a plot of a pipe bomb where she was one at DNC headquarters that day. Bongino talks about it. I won't get into that now, but that that plot failed because they didn't need it they needed what happened on January 6th was enough for them. And but anyway, I just look at this regime that we got in there right now.

Speaker 2: 5:42

Well, they, you know. So their tactic, I think, has changed a little bit, not much, just a little bit. In the response to this one you know the first one they at least generally made a show of oh, we, you know, we, we don't think this is a good thing, this is terrible, we don't find that acceptable at all. This time around the, you know, the talking heads are all saying basically the same thing. Well, Trump needs to turn down the rhetoric.

Speaker 2: 6:04

You know he brought this on himself. It's like victim blaming, you know which. They did that the last time too, Um, but they waited a day or two. This they just started, you know, right off the bat. Well, you know, he, basically he brought it on himself, he did it to himself, and that's been their, their kind of go-to. And I have, if you don't, fantastic, right, he's so great. Oh, love that guy. And uh, Karine Jean-Pierre, his favorite. Uh, uh, you know target. And uh, what she said in response to his question. Honestly, I think this was one of the things that just made my head explode, more than anything else, because it's such an open gaslighting and I'm just going to play it and I want to get your thoughts on it. Here it is.

Speaker 4: 6:50

Two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again and you're here at the podium in the White House briefing room calling him a threat. How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat?

Speaker 5: 7:10

Peter, if anything from this administration, I actually completely disagree with the premise of your question, the question that you're asking. It is also incredibly dangerous in the way that you're asking it, because American people are watching and to say that, to say that from an administration who has consistently condemned political violence, from an administration where the president called the former president and was thankful, grateful that he was okay, from an administration who has called out January 6, called out the attack of Paul Pelosi, called out and said we need to lower the temperature after the Butler incident, and now for you to make that kind of comment in your question because your question involved a comment and a statement and you know it is that is also incredibly dangerous.

Speaker 2: 8:12

So you know lots of things in that One. It's the runaround non-answer. She's not really answering the question, she's, you know, deflecting and turning it around and quite literally calling him and anyone who says what he says or questions what he's questioning, uh, is dangerous. And and that is that's one of their favorite you know things to call everyone else who's using their, you know as they like to call it misinformation or dangerous speech, which you know Tim walls are our favorite socialist. Um came right out and said uh, what was it that he said? Our favorite socialist came right out and said what was it that he said? I'm drawing a blank now. He said, well, he's got one where he says one person's socialism is another person's neighborliness. And then he said oh no, it was his attack on free speech. That you know. Free speech isn't necessarily protected. You know your speech isn't necessarily protected if it's misinformation.

Speaker 3: 9:04

So I mean just I want to know how you downgraded him to a socialist.

Speaker 2: 9:09

I know, you're right, you're right. He's not a right Marxist, you're right, you're right, you know it's interesting.

Speaker 3: 9:15

Now, you and I kind of kicked this around a couple of times. They're always going to accuse you of what they're guilty of Okay that. Accuse you of what they're guilty of Okay, that's a tactic. And when she says it's dangerous and that you're doing this, his question was the same to them. So she turns around and just reflects it back to him. Now, where exactly did the president call for peace and unity? He was supposed to be the president of unity. By the way, when he calls all trump uh supporters terrorists, he calls them all, um non-america. How about the, the african-american guy where he said if you don't vote for me, you're not black?

Speaker 3: 9:55

right uh, what about? What about calling trump a hitler? Yeah comparing him to that. How instilled the riots on January 6th when he did no such thing? Right that Kamala alone in the debate brought up Charlottesville, yeah, and how racist President Trump was because of Charlottesville and what he said. And then she tied him to the Proud Boys. I mean, if that doesn't instill hatred on this man Right Unfairly, by the way, but it instills hatred I don't know what else it does.

Speaker 2: 10:26

Yeah, unfairly, inaccurately disproven time and again.

Speaker 3: 10:31

They're demonizing President Trump and they're wondering why people are going after him. Well, I happen to think otherwise as to who's going after him, but we'll leave that off the table for a minute.

Speaker 2: 10:39

Yeah you know, whoever those people might be, are using mentally disturbed people as their, you know, as their weapons.

Speaker 3: 10:46

Right, you know and, by the way, I just gave you four examples of Hitler, the riots, charlottesville and all that, there's other language that was used against him that they just demonized the heck out of this guy. I don't know how many times they called this guy a racist times. They call this guy a racist never, never forgetting when jesse jackson actually gave him an award when he was the uh, you know, when he was a real real estate agent, uh, real estate developer in new york city, for the great things he did for minorities yeah okay, um all the people that hate him now loved him.

Speaker 3: 11:18

Loved him over they loved him because he had a lot of money yeah okay, and and uh, but you know, I mean, come on, he was invited to Hillary Clinton's wedding, right. So what can I tell you? I mean, and so, but once he got in and started calling it what it was in in challenging the military industrial complex, pulling out of all the globalist accords, of all the globalist accords which we'll talk about in a few minutes, when he started taking money out of their piggy bank, you know he did not go to war. The only president I can remember that didn't do that and that put a little dent in their piggy bank, if you look at. And then of course you know Biden hires Lloyd Austin, who was on the board for Raytheon. You know damn well, we were going to go to war with that guy in the Defense Department. Okay, and we did. We are right now in war where Kamala claimed that we are not.

Speaker 2: 12:17

I was going to say, according to Kamala, no, no.

Speaker 3: 12:19

We have no troops anywhere. I don't know if you saw the video of the guys deploying to Syria troops anywhere. I don't know if you saw the video the guy's deployed in syria and it's like I mean that that's. I can't even, I can't even honor that with a comment, like it's a slap in the face, it's. It's so much worse than that. And and uh, to the you know the fighting men and women that are out there risking their lives right now. And uh, and then, when biden says we didn't lose anybody on his watch, uh, I don't know, maybe those 13 got.

Speaker 3: 12:45

People that got killed in the Afghan pullout were just you know, maybe they were, you know, militants from some other country. You know.

Speaker 2: 12:52

Right right. Yeah, I'd like for him to say that to the family's faces.

Speaker 3: 12:56

I can't believe the lies that they tell, and so I don't know what to tell you, so I don't know what to tell you and she is one of the DEI hires what's your initials? J-k-p-l-g, I don't know. But you look at Budovich, who knows nothing about transportation and supply chains.

Speaker 1: 13:24

You know all these DEI hires that they have out there. You know DE di stands for didn't earn it right.

Speaker 3: 13:26

Yes and um and and you just look at this government and, um, some of the things to some of the military that I know, special forces that I know, uh, saying that you're not going to believe this.

Speaker 2: 13:37

The training we have to go through, transgender diversity, sensitivity training, I mean, I mean, I don't know what I don't know what that has to do with defending our country, but anyway it's frustrating, it really is, yeah, you know, and I'll tell you and I think it was like the this, this latest attempt on on Trump, I have to admit, you know, I'm I have a pretty strong resolve, I'm, I'm pretty, you know, nose to the grind and and just keep your eye on the prize and all those things.

Speaker 2: 14:07

All those things, uh, this kind of knocked the wind out of me a little bit, Like it's just so overwhelming.

Speaker 2: 14:15

We have so far to go and so much to fight against, and and I'm genuinely, um, sad, I'm genuinely sad that I feel like I'm really looking at the um, the end of America as we know it. And you know, and and I I don't want to be a doomsday or you know, I don't want to say that that's written in stone, but you know, when these things keep happening and you keep seeing it, it's more for me, it's not that these people are trying to do this. Of course, this is what they do, this is what evil does, but it just feels like there's so many people that are buying into it. You know, and and that's, and that's kind of you know, a large part of why we're doing this episode because we need some tools here. We need the tools to recognize and to resist and to fight back against this. And educate and I think that really is the biggest key, probably right there Educate, educate, educate people you know and do it.

Speaker 3: 15:18

In a way, you are right on the money on that, you know. And even in the back of my business card, my constitution business card. I have several business cards, but that's one of them is that you know. And even in the back of my business card, on my constitution business card. I have several business cards, but that's one of them is that you know a, a, uh, a quote by thomas jefferson a well-informed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny. And we are not well informed as a nation I'm sorry.

Speaker 6: 15:42

No, I love your podcast. I love what you guys are.

Speaker 3: 15:44

You and clay are doing, you know, and Clay are doing. Just got to get a perspective out there and make people think a little bit. Thinking is required to be a conservative. It's not required to be a liberal. All you need there is feelings.

Speaker 2: 15:58

That's all that matters how you feel.

Speaker 3: 16:01

Since my wife tells me I have no feelings, I can never be a liberal.

Speaker 2: 16:05

It's okay, mark, I get accused of that all the time. My husband says he said I might be lacking a little bit of a sensitivity chip.

Speaker 3: 16:16

Yeah, I'm sensitive, right. Well, I've got like six or so key things. Elsa, you asked a question at the end of the last episode on Marxism. So that episode we kind of went through some of the tenets of Marxism and again, I would highly recommend people buy the Communist Manifesto and read it. It's not long, it will take you probably an hour to read, but you'll get the gist. And then, as you read it, I highly recommend you think about what's going on today and see if there's any parallels to that, and I think you'll find there are plenty.

Speaker 3: 16:55

So I want to go through like six things. I want to talk about our elected officials. I want to talk about globalist organizations. I want to talk about unconstitutional agencies, the Federal Reserve. I want to talk about globalist organizations. I want to talk about unconstitutional agencies, the Federal Reserve. I want to talk about the gold standard, which ties into the Federal Reserve, believe it or not, and nullification. Okay, I want to talk about this whole concept of nullification things as well, but one of them overarching in all of this is our divorcing our society from God. Okay, and taking prayer out, and you know this whole separation of church and state is not in the Constitution. It is okay to pray on the congressional floor or in your state house or in your local town hall. You can pray. You can pray in a classroom. There's nothing non-constitutional or illegal about doing that. But that whole separation of church and state got misconstrued by a racist Supreme Court judge who was in the KKK and anyway, that's maybe a subject for another day.

Speaker 2: 18:07

Actually, you know what, mark, if you don't mind, I know we have so many topics, so many parts of this we want to cover, but I think that really does need to be explained, because I see that crop up all the time. Explain to the listeners how they can explain, because I know we, you know we're talking to a like audience for the most part, um, I know we generally and I include myself that get the gist of it.

Speaker 3: 18:29

So give this to us in a way for us to explain it okay, okay, well, let me start with what's called the supremacy clause in the constitution. It that's very easy to understand what it? What it means is that a federal law is the law of the land, provided its constitution as a pursuant thereof it's constitutional. A federal law is the law of the land, okay, and so states cannot reject a federal law, uh, as long as it's constitutional right. Uh, they cannot, uh, override a law. So that's the supremacy clause.

Speaker 3: 19:07

Now, after the Constitution was settled in Danbury, connecticut, there were some Baptists and they were kind of the minority there, okay, and they were really worried because the state of Connecticut, connecticut's Constitution, did not have a protection of religion like our First Amendment did. Okay, in our First Amendment, which is one of the first amendments of our Bill of Rights, our first ten amendments is our Bill of Rights is to guarantee that Congress will make or establish no religion or prohibit the exercise of religion Right, and also in that is free speech, right to assemble, protest and all that. So the baptists were really worried because indianbury, connecticut, they're saying, hey, look, the connecticut constitution does not, uh, give us that protection, and they were worried because they were minority and they were kind of shunned in some some respect that they were going to get shut down by the state of Connecticut, right, or kicked out or whatever. Thomas Jefferson wrote them a letter to the Baptists in Danbury, connecticut, and said the Supremacy Clause, basically the First Amendment you're covered. Okay, because there is a separation of church and state. He used that term in the letter. Okay, to the Danbury Baptists.

Speaker 3: 20:27

Now go 150, 200 years later, in the early I think it was the 1940s, and I forget the Supreme Court Justice's name, but I'll get it for you A case came up that had to do with religion and government OK, and he cited the separation of church and state as a tenant of our Constitution. Now, this Supreme Court judge was a member of the KKK which, by the way, by definition hates, you know, hates, especially Catholics. Ok, and he put that in there and all the liberals grasped onto that statement, saying you know, the Constitution has a separation of church and state and it does not have a separation of church and state. You can actually have, you know, a nativity scene on the, on the, on the lawns of Congress. You can, you can pray in a public building, in your classroom.

Speaker 3: 21:27

You could do that, okay, but that's what got misconstrued, like a lot of things got misconstrued by the courts, okay, and by the people. Now let's just understand the root cause of this. The root cause of this is Marxists do not want a God, okay, okay. So this, this fit right into their narrative in terms of you know, um, divorcing God from forget about our government, from our society. Yeah, this fit right in. And still today, people will tell you oh, there's a separation of church and state and it's wrong, okay, and and that and that's, and it's a separation of church and state and it's wrong, okay. And it was taken out of context in what Jefferson meant to the Danbury Baptist.

Speaker 2: 22:10

So that's just what-? And what it meant like simplified, and please correct me if I don't understand what it simply meant is that the government could not interfere with your practicing Bingo, your religion, correct?

Speaker 3: 22:23

Okay, that's what it meant. That's what it meant. That's what it meant. It did not mean you can't pray in a public building. It did not mean any of that stuff, but that's how it got construed. By the way, that's how it was decided by this judge and that was all by design, by the way. Okay, so that's the story. Okay, behind that, and again, once again, just like with the abortion and Roe v Wade, I have a constitutional right to have an abortion. You had no such thing with Roe v Wade at all, but it got misconstrued because people just don't understand the Constitution, which is why I do my podcast, why you're doing your thing, why we're talking today about Marxism, because all of this is tied back to our Constitution and our freedoms, our constitution and our freedoms.

Speaker 2: 23:05

And Roe v Wade should have never gone to the federal government right. It should have always stayed with the states, which is why this has been the battle forever and ever.

Speaker 3: 23:18

You know people always yeah, there were two things wrong with. Well, there's many things wrong with it, but two things wrong with the Roe v Wade decision. And was it 1972, I think?

Speaker 2: 23:24

Whatever it was, I think so Way back early 70s.

Speaker 3: 23:28

It stood for over 50 years. The two things wrong with it One, the 10th Amendment, which is part of the Bill of Rights, says that anything not enumerated in the Constitution is left to the states or to the people. Okay, now that 10th Amendment, by the way, is going to play in what we talk about today with the. Marxism side of this.

Speaker 3: 23:49

So that was the first thing. It was a state rights issue. Okay, the states needed to decide on abortion. That's the first mistake they made. The second mistake that they made is the courts. The Supreme court actually wrote law from the bench by putting in the trimester rules that states have to follow. They put those trimester rules in place I forget exactly how they were all orchestrated, but the first, you know, trimester, you could do this. Second, there's 30, can't you know? And they wrote law. They actually wrote law. So this is now the guidelines that states have to follow. So not only did they deny it's a state's rights issue, they told the state from the bench what to do. That was what was wrong with it.

Speaker 3: 24:41

I was against Roe v Wade from a constitutional perspective Okay, Divorced of my feelings about abortion, of which I I I detest abortion. Okay, but take that away for a minute. And the thing that people have to understand is that once they agree to an unconstitutional law mandate, whatever, because they like it right, They've just opened a Pandora's box for further transgressions on your freedoms, because something's going to come along that you're not going to like.

Speaker 2: 25:11

Yes.

Speaker 3: 25:12

Okay, and I'll use a really good example non-smoking in restaurants. I hate smoking, right, I never, even my parents smoked as a kid. I hated it. You know, in the back of our station wagon, my sister and I, and the windows closed in the winter with the heater on. I hated smoking. I didn't even try it as a teenager. I hated it so much. That has nothing to do with what I'm going to say. I do not believe the federal government, or the state government, quite frankly, could ban a legal activity smoking cigarettes in a private business's establishment. See, I'm an enormous smoker as far as the economy goes, and let the market kind of fall where it is Right. And if I find nobody wants to come to my bar or restaurant because I love smoking, I'm going to make that adjustment relative to to to the market, right, okay, but it's my property. You know what's to say now. You can't allow smoking in your own home, okay.

Speaker 6: 26:15

Again, I hate smoking.

Speaker 3: 26:16

The fact that I hate smoking has nothing to do with it, and it should have nothing to do with it. People say, oh, I'm so glad they passed that because I hate cigarette smoke. You're missing the point Right. Just don't go to that restaurant, okay.

Speaker 2: 26:27

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3: 26:28

Okay, because now that they've allowed that there's other transgressions, you open up that Pandora's box and you're going to allow them now a hall pass to be able to stop on some other rights that you do care about.

Speaker 2: 26:42

And that's kind of exactly what it's been, right. A series of little hall passes that have gotten us to where we are right now, where the amount of government overreach is past the point of absurdity and into the point of sheer madness, where now we're looking at it and going how did we let this happen? Well, that's how All these little hall passes because enough people thought, well, I don't like smoking, so that's okay, Right. And instead of going by the letter of the Constitution and what they are allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do and that's the slippery slope, Right, I have to tell you the one that I never understand, the one I can never wrap my brain around. Well, there's plenty of plenty of things that I can't, but one of them that always sticks in my head talk to me about and I'm sorry if I'm derailing you from your points, but tell me about how states can force you to get a permit for a gun when gun ownership is a protected right in the Constitution, Am I?

Speaker 3: 27:52

correct From a pure technical constitutional perspective they can't.

Speaker 2: 27:58

Okay. You're absolutely right I feel like there's a but there. Is there a but? No, no.

Speaker 3: 28:03

Okay, no, it's evolved to that.

Speaker 2: 28:08

Another hall pass moment, essentially.

Speaker 3: 28:11

Yeah, yes. Now I'm going to jump to number six, because you just brought up something that needs to happen. It's called nullification. Now, what is nullification? This is one of the six things I was going to talk about today, elsa, on how we could push back on the Marxist agenda that's being bestowed upon us. And if you haven't listened to the last episode that Elsa and I did, we talk about the parallels of the Marxist, the Communist Manifesto and what's going on in our government today, so I won't go through that and repeat that. Or the Marxist, the Communist Manifesto and what's going on in our government today, so I won't go through that and repeat that. But I will say this the Tenth Amendment does say, like I said earlier, that if not enumerated, if the people have not given the power to the federal government that's what this means in the Tenth Amendment then the federal government can't do it. And Article I, section 8, has the 18 enumerated powers of Congress. These are the things they can write laws about.

Speaker 2: 29:10

Okay, all right Now.

Speaker 3: 29:11

It's going to come in play a little bit later when we talk about the unconstitutional agencies. Okay, so the states and the state legislatures and you know I think you and I have talked about this another time Most politicians don't understand what their okay, and when you look at your state reps in your state or in my state, they all swear on the Bible to uphold the Constitution. They're our first line of defense at the state level to protect our constitutional rights. Okay, Our state reps and senators reps in particular, and they don't know their job. Okay, they don't know that they can nullify illegal mandates from the federal government and those mandates come, in terms of laws, regulations, from unconstitutional agencies, executive orders. Okay, that's where they come from, and we had three examples so far of nullification. I believe we're going all the way back to 1798. John Adams as president, our second president, passed the Alien Sedition Acts and there were four parts of that, but the one part that was most unconstitutional it gave him the right to jail publicists who criticized the government.

Speaker 3: 30:33

And it's nothing about misinformation and what we hear about today. Okay, and jefferson and madison jefferson, out of being governor of virginia, and madison kentucky pushed back on that and nullified, said that is an unconstitutional mandate and this state is not. Our states are not going to abide by that mandate, by that law, the alien sedition acts. Okay, it was subsequently overturned, but it further drove the rift between jefferson and adams. Yeah, they really were at each other's throat for quite some time and, uh, I think I told you on one of the podcasts that they both died on the same day. Uh, yes, july 4th of all days 1826.

Speaker 3: 31:12

Okay, 50 years to the day, wow, after the signing of the declaration. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. Both died on the same day. Yes, july 4th of all days, 1826.

Speaker 2: 31:18

Okay, 50 years to the day after the signing of the.

Speaker 3: 31:19

Declaration Isn't that crazy? That is crazy, it really is. But the Alien Sedition Act? Adams wanted a bigger government. He wanted more control, just like Hamilton did. Madison and Jefferson were not those guys. They did not want that. They wanted a limited government and they won out in terms of how we started our country, in terms of the Constitution. But at the state level Elsa your representatives in your state and in my state they don't only have a right to nullify, they have the obligation to do so, to push back. Now some of the states have already pushed back on things like National ID Act. Okay, if you ever notice that little thing on your license people you know you'll see at the airports by October you have to get your national ID or you can't use your driver's license.

Speaker 1: 32:00

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 32:01

That's all about a national registry, national ID, passed by George W Bush in 2005. And that kept kicking, kicked down the road because it's like 12 or 15 states that are pushing back on that Say, no, we ain't doing it right. And now I have think they have a date out there another year. I don't know when it's going to be now I keep losing track, but it keeps getting pushed out right because the states are pushing back. So if you get a few states together to to push back on the government, you can win. Okay and so. Uh, that that's an example. Okay and uh. So. Alien sedition. Now the other one was john calhoun. He was the vice president of andrew johnson and he actually resigned over this issue. It all had to do with terrorists the south.

Speaker 3: 32:42

They put terrorists on the south selling their, their, their fabrics to, to europe and europe, and the north was the one importing from europe. So it cost the North a heck of a lot more money because of these tariffs that were placed on the South's exports. Well, okay, that was put in by Andrew Jackson and Calhoun actually resigned as vice president over this issue and as a state legislator, he pushed back on these tariffs. Now the country almost went into a civil war because of this. Wow, we became very close to a civil war. Okay. Now the odd thing about this is medicine said you have no right, calhoun, to do that just because you don't like that law. Okay, there was nothing unconstitutional about it. You have no right. So medicine, of all people who start who had the first, you know, uh, uh, nullification effort, along with Jefferson, argued with Calhoun saying just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can't push back on it. Okay, but what happened was, to avoid the Civil War, jackson eased the tariffs and avoided.

Speaker 3: 33:48

It would have been a civil war. Yeah, it was a big deal. It was a really big deal All about these tariffs, but there is evidence of nullification but not enough in my opinion.

Speaker 3: 33:53

Civil War Wow yeah, it was a big deal. It was a really big deal All about these terrorists. But there is evidence of nullification, but not enough, in my opinion. We let this country just slip away and just put you know, we're just letting it slide into the abyss. So one of the things you could do is you go to your state representatives and insist that they nullify all these unconstitutional mandates that have been bestowed upon us. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:17

Now, where are they?

Speaker 3: 34:17

coming from so obviously so.

Speaker 2: 34:19

If I wanted to go down there and I shake them up and say you have to nullify this, it's not going to be just me, I would imagine. I need signatures and petitions and lots of people.

Speaker 3: 34:30

Yes, you need to organize, you need to get groups together. There are groups out there that would most likely fall in line in this regard. But yeah, you're exactly right. But you get 50 people to write your congressman and you're going to be surprised. You're going to be surprised how powerful that is if they get 50 letters of the same ilk. I've written my congressman here and all I get is a form letter back about how great he is and, um, yeah, no, and he's a republican too, and he's he's awful.

Speaker 2: 35:01

um, such a shame by the way, we're fighting against that as well, by the way, right, I mean you know yeah yeah, it's on both sides yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 35:09

So anyway, that's nullification, but let me just talk. Go to talk about these unconstitutional agencies.

Speaker 1: 35:15

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 35:16

Again, go back to that 10th Amendment and say to yourself, ok, well, if it's not enumerated in the Constitution, it's up to the state or to the people. Well, you tell me then, where is EPA, the Federal Communications Commission, the Department of Education? You go back and tell me where does the CDC fit into this? The FDA? Any of these agencies and there's so many of them, I could sit here all day and talk to you about them are unconstitutional. But what do these agencies do? They write regulations that have the power of law.

Speaker 2: 35:52

I was just going to ask you. So wait a minute. They're writing regulations that's as good as being law, because we follow these regulations as if they're laws. If you don't follow them, you are breaking the law.

Speaker 3: 36:04

You could end up in jail. You could end up in. They could take your house, your property, your money, sue you, all kinds of things. Who do these branches of government report to the executive branch, which is the president? For those of you in Rio, linda right? I love.

Speaker 3: 36:26

Rush Limbaugh used to say that all the time. I still miss him. But the executive branch the president now has oversight of these, of these agencies, in order to enforce the laws that are written by Congress, which are many times very broad. Congress doesn't put their butts on the line to dictate these mandates, because they get kicked out of office. So in some sense Congress are cowards to set up these agencies and they're being challenged right now. But it takes a long time to to get these things undone once they're in. You know, one of the things I always thought about was how, in order to get something deemed unconstitutional, you have to bring a case in front of the Supreme court and there's thousands of cases every year that get put up against them and they decide which ones are going to pick. So that gives again a hall pass to Congress to write unconstitutional laws, because with the chances it's probably not going to get caught. So that's a problem.

Speaker 3: 37:20

But I'll tell you a quick story about the Department of Education. When I was running for Congress, I was talking about defunding the Department of Education, which I think it's sitting around 60 billion with 4,000 people in it. I have no idea what they do. I have no idea what they do. I do know our education is not getting better Definitely not. Well, I do know what they do and I'll tell you what they do in a minute. So after my talk, this lady came up to me. She said Mark, I work in the school system here and if you get rid of the Department of Education, where are we going to get our funding from? And I looked at her and I said well, can I ask you a question? She goes sure, I said where do you think?

Speaker 3: 37:59

they get the funding from From you Taxpayers. You sent. For every dollar you sent to them, you might get 50 cents back if you behave Right and do what they tell you to do, although they'll stop funding you. Okay, that's the problem. I'd rather keep that money here. Keep it local. Education should be local. Why, I can't affect a bureaucrat in Washington, right? Who do you call? Okay? So anyway, these agencies are unconstitutional and Congress needs to just defund them. Yeah, that's it. Now they say oh.

Speaker 3: 38:32

And Congress needs to just defund them. Yeah, that's it. Now they say oh, you might shut the government down.

Speaker 1: 38:35

Yeah, great.

Speaker 3: 38:36

Great, it's just not on the weekends anyway. Yeah, seriously Right, I don't know, saturday and Sunday this week Are you going to be okay? I'm going to be okay, all right. And, by the way, the secure tactics there are oh, seniors won't get their social security. That's wrong. Uh, there's financial engineering that you could do to get that fixed. That's easy to do. Uh, uh, the military won't operate, absolutely not, that's, that's, that's mandated, that's going to happen. So the military is going to keep happening, right, so that's the scare tactics that they use.

Speaker 3: 39:06

So so, nullification, abolish unconstitutional agencies, and pushing back. Number one would be just continue to push back on your elected officials, okay, and remove culpable politicians that are not following our constitution. And I'll tell you a quick story here in Arizona, in the district I'm in in Scottsdale, david Schweiker, who's a Republican. I went to a, a, a town meeting, a Republican meeting in Fountain Hills, which is the next town over from Scottsdale, and he got up on a stage. There's like 300 people in the audience. I'm sitting next to my buddy Sheriff, joe Arpaio, and he gets up there and he starts talking about the debt.

Speaker 3: 39:46

And he says. He says well, you know, our interest on our debt now is $1.2 trillion, our debt is $35 trillion and this has got to stop. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He's going on and on and on.

Speaker 3: 40:03

He opened it up for questions, so they gave me the microphone. I was the first one. I said Congressman, let's make sure we're clear on this. I said when the Federal Reserve which, by the way, is going to be another one of these things I'm talking about in a minute when the Federal Reserve expands the money supply by printing money, by electronically printing money, then they take that money and they actually buy treasury bills and they infuse cash into the economy. So the money supply expands when they buy T-bills.

Speaker 3: 40:34

That's debt to the government, who now have to pay you back on this phony money that you created out of nothing with interest with our taxpayer dollars. Okay, and the only guys that are making money here are the guys that are running the Federal Reserve, because zero incentive for them to have a stable economy, which is what their mandate is. He goes yes, that's exactly right. I said okay, I said so. I have a question for you. I said now that we're on the same plane about how the Federal Reserve works and how inflation happens. Okay, how was it that you voted for the increase in the debt ceiling right in front of 300 people? He became irate.

Speaker 2: 41:16

Oh, I bet he did, I bet he did.

Speaker 3: 41:18

He got to the stage and looked down on me because he's up on you know and he goes. Well, let me ask you a question. He says what do you think would happen if to the bond market? If we didn't do that, I go look, I'm not here to answer your questions. I said but I don't think the people in this room give a rat's ass about the bond market, but they do care about the supermarket. And that was a death blow.

Speaker 2: 41:42

Yeah, that was a death blow to him.

Speaker 3: 41:45

And then he went on to say well, do you realize that we saved $100 billion of spending by doing that? Now he's defending it. I said, Congressman, you're defending it, You're defending what you said was bad originally. You can't have it both ways. I said, by the way, $100 billion on a $5, $6 trillion budget, that's chump change. And he says to me, and he looked at me and said you know, I just wish everybody knew how to use a calculator. Next question Wow, Yep.

Speaker 2: 42:18

That's David Schweiker, district 1, arizona. You know I've got a guy in finance here. I'm going to share this. It's a little bit. It's a little on the long side. I may even cut it off at some point because we'll get the gist of it. This is who we have in our government handling this type of stuff. Are you ready? Here we go.

Speaker 6: 42:38

The US government can't go bankrupt because we can print our own money.

Speaker 5: 42:42

It obviously begs the question why exactly are we borrowing in a currency that we print ourselves? I'm waiting for someone to stand up and say why don't we borrow our own currency in the first place?

Speaker 4: 42:54

Like you said, they print the dollar, so why does the government even?

Speaker 2: 42:57

borrow.

Speaker 6: 42:58

Well, I mean, again, some of this stuff gets. Some of the language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the government definitely prints money and it definitely lends that money, which is why the government definitely prints money and then it lends that money by selling bonds. Is that what they do? They, yeah, they sell bonds. Yeah, they sell bonds. Right, because they sell bonds and people buy the bonds and lend them the money, yeah, so a lot of times, at least to my ear with MMT, the language and the concepts can be unnecessarily confusing, but there is no question that the government prints money and then it uses that money to. So, yeah, I guess no-transcript.

Speaker 2: 44:05

or maybe he's off the job now, I don't really know.

Speaker 3: 44:07

I think a well, I can't say this anymore, but a high school economics first year student could explain that better than he could.

Speaker 2: 44:15

Was that painful, or what?

Speaker 3: 44:18

It is painful and you know, and you know what's sad about that. He's not even a DEI hire. That's sad.

Speaker 2: 44:24

Yeah, right, yeah, I mean he, I, you know, I don't know, maybe there was like some version of a version of nepotism or something. I mean, I don't know, independent corporations.

Speaker 3: 44:32

They're independent and they're not part of the government. They're not part of the federal government, they're not a government agency the Federal Reserve and they're the ones that control all the banking in the United States. And Thomas Jefferson really had a problem with a centralized banking system. Because of what we're about to talk about and what they do do, is they literally, when you say, print money electronically, go to a computer and create money out of thin air, let's add a trillion dollars to the money supply. And again, I just want to go back to your listeners on constitutional economics. Anytime you have more of anything, it's worth less. This is why you have inflation. So the definition, the textbook definition, of inflation is the expansion of the money supply. So the more money you have, the less it's worth. So if you have $10,000 in a bank and they print money and inflation goes to 10%, the buying power, your bank balance will still say 10,000. The buying power will only be 9,000. Okay, and that's the problem with this.

Speaker 3: 45:49

Now, these yo-yos that run these federal reserve banks and I've been to one physically in cleveland. I toured it um, a lady that used to work for me uh, worked there now and she asked me to come in and I did a tour. They have a, the one in cleveland. They have a firing range, a shooting range. They have a whole arsenal. Wow, weapons, they have everything. Oh my, you're gonna believe it. I saw pallets of money being burned, pallets four by four, by four, like a Gaylord being burned Because they're taking old money out of the economy. Can you guys do a few samples? You know? But anyway, this Federal Reserve, okay. So what happens is think about a business, think about a business that manufactures any product. They have what they call cost of sales Materials. They have to pay for labor and overhead. Right, there's zero cost of sales here.

Speaker 3: 46:43

With the Federal Reserve, they literally create a product called money out of nothing. Then they lend it to the government. They buy T-bills. That's how we get our debt and we as taxpayers got to pay back with interest to them. Okay, so they take these T-bills and they load them up to all these member banks. Now the only people that can own stock in these corporations are the banks, and they're required to own stock. All the banks are required to be part of the Federal Reserve System, and there's a lot more to that in terms of what they do at reserves and how they risk our economy.

Speaker 3: 47:18

But there is zero incentive to have a stable economy, because what ends up happening is is and that, by the way, is their mandate is to stabilize the economy and that, by the way, is their mandate is to stabilize the economy. And you know, when they loan money out like that, then they say, okay, well, that's inflationary. So now we have to raise interest rates to the banks and make debt harder to get which includes mortgages, by the way, and business loans so they raise the interest rates. That's why our interest rates now are over 7%, and it kills the economy. Now you've got joblessness. It's called stagflation, where you've got inflation, joblessness and a slow economy, and that's what we got right now, and it's going to get worse as time goes on.

Speaker 2: 48:02

Right, and so how I'm sorry to interrupt and so how this would tie to Marxism, to this, you know, ideology would be to me again, putting it in my simple Simon terms, you know, listening to what you're saying and I'm thinking, well, you know, even though that guy, that Jared or was that the same Jared, you know sounds and probably is a bit of adult, a bit of a doofus, Don't insult adults.

Speaker 3: 48:30

by the way, I know some good dolts.

Speaker 2: 48:35

But you know, when you you listen to him, you almost have to set him aside for a minute and go and think well, this isn't by accident, this isn't by acts of stupidity or or ignorance. I mean, this is, how can this not be deliberate? This, this crashing of the economy, this destruction, really everything that's happening right now, I mean the tie-ins, are just a little too much to be coincidental, right? So you know how do we look at that through through that lens and and essentially fight against it. I mean, and I know you said and I agree with you a hundred percent, like the, you know I, and I guess it's maybe the true answer is that you know you have to be educated in these things and and it is overwhelming Like this is this is a lot really of new or only like half learned information that you know I got at, you know, in my formative years, that I don't even think they're teaching to our kids now, right, no, they're not.

Speaker 2: 49:30

You know so you're essentially as adults, you're essentially like starting from scratch. You know it might as well be from scratch and getting to these, you know really valid, good resources, like your podcast, where you know you can get this information broken down for you and explain, so that you are armed with this information and this understanding of how it all works. That's right, because if we don't understand how it works, we can't fight against it. You know, we're just going to keep getting snowed, basically by you know this corrupt government system.

Speaker 3: 50:00

Well, you see, the money supply is something people can't really wrap their arms around. You can't see it, you don't even know it's there, you don't even know what it is. What's a money supply, right?

Speaker 1: 50:08

Right.

Speaker 3: 50:08

But it is an inventory of money that's in the marketplace today, just like there's an inventory right now of automobiles or houses, or tomatoes, or name it. Okay, but the money part of it scares people and they can't conceptualize it, so it makes it harder for them to understand. Reserve, by the way, is responsible for every single economic calamity since they've been enacted. In 1913, which was done on December 23rd, woody Wilson, woodrow Wilson signed it into law, but Congress was away Most of Congress was away on December 23rd 1913. That's when they passed this Okay, and they snuck it in. Jp Morgan was the guy behind that.

Speaker 3: 50:50

But we had a post-World War I recession in 1918 and 19,. Depression in 1920 and 21,. The stock market crash in 1929, the Great Depression that continued in the 1930s. The Fed raised interest rates and made it impossible for the economy to revive itself, especially farmers. You heard about the dust bowls. Those dust bowls were farmers who couldn't afford any investment and they let their farms go to waste. Okay, that was the Great Depression that lasted longer than it should have 10 years.

Speaker 3: 51:24

We had the stagfation in the 70s, the recession in 80, 82, we had the Carter years. I mean, I remember getting raises. I just got out of college and I was getting 15% raises a year. Elsa Wow, cost of living. That's just cost of living. It wasn't performance. Then we had the Great Recession in the 2007 and 8, 9 timeframe. All of this was a result of the Federal Reserve. Every single one of these, plus others I didn't mention, were there. Now I just think and, by the way, the Federal Reserve, the interest that we pay to them, they get to cover their expenses and anything over that interest they have to pay back to the government. How do they ever do A? There's no transparency of their finances. We can't see it.

Speaker 3: 52:12

The congressman can't see it. The last guy that really asked for it was Ron Paul and he got demonized by that. But they have right now 50 Lear jets and cargo planes. They have a full-time curator for their massive paintings and sculptures. Why does the Federal Reserve have paintings and sculptures, Hundreds of billions, billion dollars of assets. They have it that a janitor was paid $163,000 30 years ago. Because what they're doing is saying we ain't giving this money back to the government, we're just going to keep it for ourselves and enrich ourselves.

Speaker 2: 52:44

And if anybody else was, this bad at their job, they would have been fired a long time ago. Come on, come on, give me a break, Right, anyway?

Speaker 3: 52:53

now, what does this have to do with Marxism? Okay, remember, marxism is about control.

Speaker 2: 52:59

Yes.

Speaker 3: 52:59

Okay, and this is how they control. Well, you control the economy, they basically control the economy. That's the control they have on us. Okay, and we didn't talk much about digital currency. But once that, if that gets in, we're in big trouble. Okay, cause they can start dictating all kinds of stuff to us. And, and I want to just kind of. So, basically, what do we do? We push on Congress to they the federal reserve act of 1913 does allow Congress to modify it or to abolish it. Okay, and we've got to push on Congress to abolish the Federal Reserve and let the free market take its course in terms of interest rates and everything else. The gold standard is tied into this and here's why. Well, let me just give you this basket of goods. Thing In 1790, a basket of goods cost $100. Thing In 1790, a basket of goods cost $100. In that same basket, in 1913, the year the Federal Reserve was passed, was only $108. Went up $8 in 120-some odd years. Now 1913, right.

Speaker 2: 54:04

In 2008,.

Speaker 3: 54:05

When we had that economic collapse, that basket of goods that was $108 in 1913 would now be valued at $2,422. That's inflation. That's the kind of inflation. Yep, okay, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2: 54:20

Okay, all right.

Speaker 3: 54:22

And I fear, elsa, that if our country does go down you asked this question a couple of podcasts ago do you see any hope? The economic collapse is a real possibility that will tear this country down? Yeah, it's happened time and time again in other countries. So that is the fear, right, that we're just not going to be able to get out of this debt now past $35 trillion. But the gold standard let me briefly just talk to you real quick about what this is.

Speaker 3: 54:51

We had a gold standard that said the money supply cannot increase past the value of the gold in our reserves and that put a limit on this printing of money. You couldn't print money past the value of the gold. So that kept the cap on the money supply, which kept inflation in check. Well, in the 30s, fdr pretty much got rid of the gold standard. We had what's called the Bretton Woods Agreements in 1944, bretton Woods, new Hampshire, where 44 nations agreed to be on the gold standard to stabilize currency and the US dollar would have become the international currency of trade, which is now at risk. That got relaxed and eventually, in 1972, nixon got rid of the gold standard altogether, which opened up the kimonos, if you will, for the Federal Reserve to just print money that gave you that $2,400 price index.

Speaker 3: 55:55

Okay, so the gold standard went away and we now have what we call fiat money. There's no country in the world tied to any precious metal, whether it be gold or silver okay, including the United States, and this is why everything's been out of control. So going back to the gold standard and pushing legislation is and there is legislation out there right now that is, in fact, looking to get back onto a gold standard. Right, don't even know where that is, but again, I've written my congressmen and senators and said, hey, look, this is what we got to get back onto. So the gold standard is a real key part of this whole economic collapse that we're seeing here. And remember, all of this all has to do with control. That's what the markets want, that's what they want.

Speaker 2: 56:40

Yeah, it's control every aspect, really right. You know, if you control the government, if you control speech, if you control every aspect of what everyone does, you win. You win Right, Exactly.

Speaker 3: 56:55

Exactly.

Speaker 3: 56:55

Yeah, and look at the tax repayment and, real quick, I got the gold standard. I think I covered everything. Those are the kind of things that we have to push our government to be able to do right, and and uh, those are at least the six things that I could talk about now, uh, about how we can push back on on marxism. These are the solutions that we have to get the right people in office right. A understand and b have the guts to go out and do this. Now. We do have people in there that will do this. Marjorie taylor green is one of them. Eli crane here, who beat me, for he's a great Congressman, uh. Paul Gosar was a good friend of mine. He was on my show, uh, a week and a half ago. And Andy Biggs we had some really good Congressman here in Arizona. Uh, I don't think you have very many good ones up where you are. Uh, you've got a bunch of globalists up there and and um, but you know we have to keep plugging away and getting the right people in office.

Speaker 2: 57:48

So yeah, I mean, you know again, I think that's the point that we need to keep driving right to anyone who will listen, Informed, be informed, be proactive, be active, be vocal, be involved. Right, you have to, and I've heard this before and I remember hearing this from somebody because I had lamented the same lament that this just seems so overwhelming. How do you affect change, how do you do anything about this, when it is such a tangled web of everything, which I think, of course, is very deliberate to make you feel exactly like that. And then you add to it and we can all relate to this that you're just so busy life, you're just so busy living your life, that, like to add this one massively huge thing really to it is just one thing too many, I think, for so many people. And they're, and they're like, ah, you know, I'm, we're fine, I mean, we're doing well enough, it's okay, we'll deal with it, you know, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2: 58:50

And you just kind of get complacent, I think. And then, but that's why we're here, that's how we got to here, we let them beat us down, we let them, you know, just make us weary, and that's really what we are. We're weary, we're so damn tired of all of it and frustrated. And now we're at a point where, like, we don't even know where to begin. Like, how do you start unraveling this? You know, you know mass of tangled knots that we're in right now and and there is no easy fix. Unfortunately, right, you know there's. The fix is what we keep saying and what we keep driving forward, which is to to be informed, and and what we keep driving forward, which is to be informed and be active and get other people involved and work on your local level. You know, because that's where it starts, that's where you have to start. There's no other place to start. You have to start. You know and you affect change where you are. You know, in your corner of the world and your little spot, and you know, and you just pray and work towards getting that to ripple outwards.

Speaker 2: 59:52

Now you did a phenomenal job covering all of the. You know the government side, the constitution side, the legislative and Congress and all of that side of you know that the Marxist attack and how to combat that on that level. On a more social level, I found a really good article and yay me. I missed part of the part that pronounced the guy's name, so I'm just going to put it in the comment section later.

Speaker 2: 1:00:24

But one of a couple of the things that they were saying is don't think like a Marxist, reject viewing the world through Marxist conflicts like gender, race or class struggles, and instead recognize now, this is a religious, came from a faith-based article recognize that sin as the root cause of social problems and I thought that was a really, really great point of social problems and and I thought that was a really, really great point, you know, and not to just like resist the, you know, be anti-communist, anti-socialist, anti-marxist, you know that's all great, of course we're anti that. But you know, really again, to drive home that point one more time educate, learn. You know you have to pay attention, like some of us on the right and this can go for people on the left as well that you kind of bury your head in the sand because you don't want to know. You just don't want to be burdened by all of it. Hence Kamala telling everyone that they can be unburdened, right?

Speaker 3: 1:01:50

no-transcript. But you know when you get back to this whole Marxist movement that's been going on for quite some time.

Speaker 3: 1:01:59

Believe me, it didn't just start with Biden, it's all about. To me, it's a sin to play on people's greed and their envy and their jealousy and when I can say, well, I'll come out. You know, look at the car you're driving. How come I don't get to drive that car? Who did you steal it from? You must've did something, cause I, I, I. I would never look at my inadequacies to say maybe I'm not as talented as you, maybe I'm not as smart as you, maybe I'm not as ambitious as you, maybe I'm not as smart as you, maybe I'm not as ambitious as you. Okay, I actually had a relative. Tell me one time you know you didn't earn anything that you have. You know you just got lucky. Oh, I swear to God, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:39

Those are fight words.

Speaker 3: 1:02:40

He was a relative. Okay, I don't see who he was. I looked at him. I said well, let me ask you something. I said and, by the way, this guy fancied himself as a genius. Of course you know he was a trivia pursuit expert. He knew everything and all this.

Speaker 2: 1:03:03

They're always smarter than us. That's the law.

Speaker 3: 1:03:06

You didn't earn that, you just got lucky. I said well, you know I did get lucky. I was born in the United States. If I was born in India, I wouldn't. I think I got real lucky you kidding me and so did you, by the way. So what's your excuse? So I said to him Good Okay.

Speaker 3: 1:03:22

You know what I'm saying and so, but that's the, and I've been told, oh, my white male privilege is what got me my success. Well, wait a minute. I know a lot of white males that didn't make it and didn't have success that I had, and I know some that had more success. So I'm thinking well then, all white males should you know. I mean, you know, if you have a brother who didn't make it and you made it, and you had the same parents, the same upbringing, the same neighborhood, how the heck could that be?

Speaker 2: 1:03:53

Right, right. You see examples like that all the time. You know siblings in the same household, raised by the same parents. All the same thing. One you know takes their circumstances and uses it as fuel to excel, and the other uses it as their excuse to fail. Basically, you know it's.

Speaker 3: 1:04:09

But as you read the Communist Manifesto, you see all of this banter that Karl Marx talked about between the proletariats, which are the working class, and the bourgeoisie right, which are the really the middle class, not even the rich. Rich, oh yeah, they're that too. But he looked at them saying they stole everything from the working class and he pitted them against each other to the degree that you know that Stalin had to blow the chariots, go after the bourgeois bourgeoisie, I should say, with pitchforks. They were fighting, I mean, they were killing each other, okay, and he used that class warfare, which is such an easy thing to get people jealous, right, not really understanding the root cause of why there are differences, right, okay, and don't get me wrong, I am not trying to sit here and say there's not racism, right, but when you tell me there's institutional racism, I want you to give me an example. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 1:05:06

And then the next layer of that, mark, is you know, when you look at all of these big institutions and big places where they're saying that there's institutionalized racism there, you know most of them are run by people on the left. So you know, that's a little suspicious.

Speaker 3: 1:05:23

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, exactly If you. If you could point institutional racism, I'll go and march with you to that organization and protest with you. But they can't do that, they can't do that. And so this is all about pitting groups against each other so that, as we're fighting, the tyrants can continue their power, their power, their scent of power. And I got to go back to my favorite, my favorite American, thomas Jefferson. I just think this guy was unbelievable. He had a great saying here and I'm going to read it there is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people.

Speaker 2: 1:06:03

Mm. Wow, wow. Yeah it is. That's actually that. That could not have been a more perfect way to put a bow on this conversation, because that is for even I'm putting that on the screen. Guys, we need to like read that over and over again, because that is is such a direct response to what's going on right now. A direct response to what's going on right now, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:06:29

I mean, you couldn't get more, a more better quote than that for for this conversation or or for life really, right now, what we're living in. You know, again, this conversation can and will go on more, because there's so much more to be said about it and so much more you know that we can explore with it. So so I, as, as I think I did before, I'm going to do it again I'm going to put my thumb on you and say you're going to come back.

Speaker 3: 1:06:59

Absolutely yeah. I told you what it's going to take.

Speaker 2: 1:07:02

I know that's right, that's right, right.

Speaker 3: 1:07:06

I did make a mistake. I said two glasses of wine. It's got now three.

Speaker 2: 1:07:09

We're up to three. We're up to three. Fair enough, fair enough. Listen, we're getting a couple bottles anyhow.

Speaker 3: 1:07:13

Come on, we're going to move the unit of measure to bottles in a minute.

Speaker 2: 1:07:17

Yeah, exactly. Oh, my friend, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your absolute wealth of information with me and anyone else who just doesn't know the things I mean. I'm the first one to admit it. I'll tell you one more thing real quick, because maybe you have some intel on this one on how to get it. So I saw a video from Charlie Kirk, who I just love to pieces. I think that man is just so smart.

Speaker 3: 1:07:45

I met with Charlie. We had about an hour and a half meeting.

Speaker 2: 1:07:49

I love him. I just love him more and more. The more I see him, the more I love him. And the little video clip that I saw he was talking to college kids outside of a campus and one was trying to match wits with him, which was just the silliest thing ever, and they were holding a pamphlet that Charlie Kirk either hands out or gives out or sells. I'm not sure what the case is, but it was like basically the constitution for third graders, essentially.

Speaker 2: 1:08:15

And that was kind of the premise of the guy's argument, that like, why are you giving this, you know, to college students? We're college students, not third graders, and you know. And his response was you know the gist of it was, well, because your understanding is at a third grade level, let me test you. And he's like well, you're not even at a third grade level. But all joking aside and I say this with no shame whatsoever I want that pamphlet, I want that book for myself, I want to read that. So if anybody has any, if you have any intel how to get it, I looked on his website. I didn't see it.

Speaker 3: 1:08:47

By the way I am sending you. I just made an order last night with a bunch of books that are coming your way.

Speaker 2: 1:08:52

Yay, I love it.

Speaker 3: 1:08:54

Everybody needs to have these books, but we'll talk about them afterwards.

Speaker 2: 1:08:57

Good, that'll be part of our next conversation. We'll be talking about those books. Sound good yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:09:01

I don't want to let people know what they are All right, we're not telling them anything.

Speaker 2: 1:09:04

You're going to have to tune in.

Speaker 3: 1:09:05

That means you'll know, and then it won't be a surprise.

Speaker 2: 1:09:07

Okay, perfect, all right, let me say goodbye to everyone. Mark, thank you again for coming on the show. I appreciate you so much. And guys, thank you for tuning in. We appreciate you so much. We appreciate you joining in every week and we just look forward to bringing you more content, more information, more stuff, so that you can share it to others as well. Have a great rest of your day, evening, morning, whatever the case is, whenever you're watching this. Take care and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 1: 1:09:36

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