Navigating Chaos: Hurricanes, Political Leadership, and Controversies

What happens when two hurricanes wreak havoc in the southeastern United States, only for the federal aid response to be met with controversy and criticism? That's the question we tackle in this episode, where we dissect the aftermath of Hurricanes Helene and Milton. Joined by Clay Novak, we explore the heartwarming celebrity relief efforts led by Jason Aldean and Luke Combs, alongside the mounting pressure on FEMA amid claims of fund mismanagement against a backdrop of government denial. Our discussion doesn't shy away from the stark reality of misinformation and the stories of everyday heroes stepping up to fill the gaps left by official responses.

We venture into the world of political missteps and their impacts on disaster response. A certain political figure finds themselves under the spotlight, facing backlash for prioritizing media over ground presence during a crisis. In stark contrast, notable figures like former President Trump and Governor DeSantis showcase their leadership in the face of Hurricane Milton. As we share personal stories from families braving evacuation challenges in Florida, we also critically assess Vice President Harris's capacity to manage such crises, given past communication blunders and the potential complications of high-profile visits.

Finally, we peel back the layers on a shocking scandal involving Sean "Diddy" Combs, drawing unsettling parallels to the infamous Epstein case, and ponder its broader implications on Hollywood and politics. We also highlight a new Tucker Carlson documentary that captures the unwavering resilience of Trump's base amid an assassination attempt. With a heartfelt nod to the communities affected by the hurricanes, we offer our support and introduce listeners to Terry Davis's thrilling journey and the enchanting world of Elsa Kurt's "Welcome to Chance" series. This episode promises a compelling blend of disaster response, political scrutiny, and gripping narratives that will keep you engaged from start to finish.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. Conservative views on world news Brought to you by the Wellness Company. Prepare for the unexpected and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:20

Well, hey there, how is it going?

Speaker 3: 0:23

It's going well. It's going good for me and you. There's a lot of people in the southeast that it is not going well for and you know we're hoping and praying for for those in the Carolinas and obviously you know Milton's about to hit Florida, so it's not going great for them. But we we're going to talk about both of those and let's see what else. Oh, we promised Diddy, we're going to talk about both of those and let's see what else.

Speaker 2: 0:47

Oh, we promised Diddy, we're going to talk about Diddy this week.

Speaker 3: 0:49

Talk about Diddy, that's right Kamala, on the interview trail. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:15

So we got a packed show for you, like you said. Well, we'll dive right into the hurricane stuff, you know. So we're still dealing not we, you and I personally, but so many are dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. And, of course, like you said, we've got Milton right on its heels and so let's, there's a lot to talk about with Helene. I mean there's, you know, first of all, we've got I'm looking for my images here.

Speaker 2: 1:35

The images, you know, if you haven't seen them, I'm sure you have. They're just, you know, absolutely devastating, heartbreaking to look at and to, you know, realize that this is people's reality right now Just breaks your heart, breaks your heart that they're dealing with this and, of course, lots of controversy over the federal aid, part of that and, on the upside, always with these things, I think we touched on it a little bit last week that when things like this happen, natural disasters, any type of, you know, getting out there, getting supplies out there, getting things out there and donating, and as much as I'm not a fan of the celebrities and all of those things, there's a couple of bright spots there. Let's see Jason Aldean just handed over a check, for I think it was.

Speaker 2: 2:44

I can't read it, so I think it's 500,000, half a million dollars, wrote a check and just said here you go and did that. And then there's a country music star, luke Holmes, is going to be sponsor hosting a benefit concert for them. That's going to be, I think, october 26th I think is the date of that one and so many other people. And of course we talked about last week President Trump created that GoFundMe. I think was over 6 million, almost 7 million. So then, with Aldine's contribution, put them well over $7 million in aid. Talk to me what you're hearing about the federal aid part of all of this.

Speaker 3: 3:25

Yeah. So before we get too far, we, we, we, the show, the Elsa and I are here with Clay Novak. Last week, as this show dropped on YouTube and for those of you that watch every week and listen, you know, elsa and I say this we record before it drops. I know on YouTube it says live in the corner, but that just means it's the first time that it's coming out. It's a live release, but it is not a live recording. I always watch and I have my phone right, I watch it, I put it on my smart TV and I watch the comments on my phone, which I love. We have great listeners and viewers who really get involved and have great conversation. But last week there were a few people who were upset because it wasn't an actual live broadcast, because they they wanted to talk to somebody else. So you and I it's me and you like we don't have a staff, we don't have camera people, there's nobody like. If you and I were answering comments on YouTube, we would be doing it as as we're talking.

Speaker 2: 4:29

Cause there's nobody else. Yeah, yes, there is nobody, you know, helping us with all of this stuff and things, and that's not a complaint, it's just a simple fact. Yeah, it's just reality, it's just how it is. And listen, if there's a producer out there, if there's a platform out there that would like to produce for us, and so we can just do this part of it, we are receptive to that conversation. We will not turn down that conversation.

Speaker 3: 4:45

Please contact us. So for clarity, right now, as we're recording, it is one o'clock 1 PM on Wednesday. Okay, so anything that happens, so, and we'll get to Milton in a minute, but Milton hasn't made landfall. So there's your, there's your point of context.

Speaker 2: 5:00

Yes, let's get back.

Speaker 3: 5:01

Okay, so we cleared that up. Let's get back to Helene.

Speaker 2: 5:03

Yes, yes, so the federal response. There's been a tremendous amount of criticism as to the response. Of course FEMA has been, you know, top of mind, as they like to say, because they are out of money for, you know, relief. And of course it's because they directed all of that money to the migrants and I'm sorry, I can't do that the illegal, the illegal aliens infiltrating our country, um, with permission from our federal government, and they, um, they of course deny that. And then, uh, your favorite Kareem, what do you call her? Jean-claude Van Damme.

Speaker 3: 5:45

Yes, kareem Jean-Pierre.

Speaker 2: 5:49

Yes, there you go. Yes, she vehemently denied that this was the case and, of course, there's a video.

Speaker 4: 5:55

No, biden did not take FEMA relief money to use on migrants. Funding is also available through FEMA's Emergency Food and Shelter Program to eligible local governments and non-for-profit organizations upon request, to support humanitarian relief for migrants.

Speaker 2: 6:14

The penalty that she suffered for such an egregious lie is that she was promoted, so congratulations to her on failing up. That is a tremendous feat to accomplish.

Speaker 3: 6:27

Yeah, it's par for the course with the administration. So she's completely unqualified to be senior advisor to the president, because, if you look at her bio, all she has ever done is public relations. Right, that's it.

Speaker 2: 6:39

So reality is is they just needed to get her out of that spot?

Speaker 3: 6:42

It's exactly right, especially after she walked out on Peter Doocy Walked out yeah. He was pressing her on this very topic, yeah, and she got so irritated and I think I have a feeling that either this was the final straw that got her promoted out of the job or she already knew she was getting promoted out of the job and she just heard you know, give a crap, meet her broke. And she just heard you know, give a crap, meet her broke. And she just said screw it walked out.

Speaker 2: 7:07

Yeah, either is perfectly believable.

Speaker 3: 7:09

Yeah, but so here's the issue is, there is a ton of inaccurate information going on out there, people posting on social media that FEMA was interfering so bad that a local FEMA director got beaten by just regular citizens Patently false. There's a lot of extreme cases. I saw something today that I cannot even believe I saw on social media and that says a lot, because social media is what it is. This was a reposting of an Instagram post that said I just heard from a friend who's a former Marine sniper and he's got four confirmed kills of FEMA agents in Western North Carolina. That's the level of stupidity that's happening on social media. Which is the problem is that there are so many other really bad things going on that we're all getting a skewed perspective.

Speaker 3: 8:16

There is plenty of evidence of FEMA failure, right Not showing up on time, being confiscated, deterred, derailed like, pushed off the road, taken control of by state agencies and FEMA interference by, you know, federal agents. There's all kinds of evidence of that. It's getting drowned out by the you know the really stupid stuff. You know, and I'll admit, there's two or three cases where you've seen military Black Hawk helicopters. I don't know if you've seen these. They come in and if you're under one of those things and they're down to like 150 feet, the rotor wash is brutal, right, it blows everything and you know inexperienced pilots have come in and you know, gotten too close to some of these supply points. They've blown supplies and crap all over the place.

Speaker 3: 9:03

Yeah, I saw that video too close to some of these supply points, so they've blown supplies and crap all over the place. I saw that video. I will admit I got I got caught in a little bit of a of a dupe. You know those, those aircraft, sometimes the markings are very, very hard to see. I saw a version of that that got modified, where the markings were actually removed from the helicopter. Oh, so you've got military style, military Blackhawk type helicopters flying and somebody has altered the video where the markings have been removed. Now, did the pilot screw up? Sure, the pilot screwed up, but it's since been. You know, my initial reaction was if it's got no markings, it's got to be some sort of private military contractor. They're the only ones who own those things. And in reality it had been a modified video of a National Guard helicopter. The aircraft has been identified, the pilot has been identified, wow. So people are not as bad as the situation is, and it is bad, but people are not helping with these sorts of you know, things going across social media.

Speaker 2: 9:56

Yeah, yeah, it's not helping at all and it's. It's so frustrating that people pull this kind of crap Like the facts are enough. The reality is more than enough. I mean, you're talking about, you know, the the devastation of this. It was a. It's left a 500 mile path of destruction throughout Florida, georgia, south Carolina, north Carolina and Tennessee. There are, as of Monday this could have increased, probably has increased, unfortunately they're saying over 232 people have died and there are still hundreds of people that are lost or still unaccounted for. That alone, like hundreds of people in the United States of America unaccounted for after a natural catastrophe. Natural catastrophe. Now I can't even Clay, I can't even. I can't even address that part of it. You know cause? They're talking about the cloud seeding and the controlling the weather and all that. I'm not even mentally prepared to go there yet. Maybe that's a topic for another day. I actually would like to know your thoughts on that, but we can't do it. Can't do it today, guys.

Speaker 3: 10:59

Yeah, it's, you know it is. There's enough evidence out there there's. We don't. We don't need no, nothing needs to be fabricated. There's plenty of damning evidence out there of the ineptitude of FEMA. You know the federal agencies, federal organizations that are supposed to be helping. You know the. They finally got the military in there, which is great. They always bring assets that you know, truthfully, civilians don't have. You know, in in a lot of cases, the vast amount of aircraft to get to places, the number of people to get to places that you can't get to. I know there's been a lot of. I've seen tons of it. Former special operations guys. You know the Carolinas. You know, with former Fort Bragg, now Fort Liberty being the home of the 82nd, a lot of the special forces, schoolhouses there, the special forces units, army Delta forces there. There's a lot of former special operators that live in the Carolinas.

Speaker 5: 11:47

A lot of them.

Speaker 3: 11:48

And so these guys have somewhat come out of the woodwork. They've taken control in a lot of places. They've also done some really heroic stuff. I'm talking like jump off one skid of the helicopter onto a mountainside to go check a house to see if there's any survivors in there Like they're. They're doing those kinds of heroic things because you know the federal government has taken too long to respond. You know they wouldn't. They wouldn't have, they would do it, but they wouldn't have to be doing it if the federal government was prepared.

Speaker 2: 12:17

Right, and lots of reports, too right, of civilians taking action, flying private helicopters and doing all these private missions. And you know, lots of also reports of the federal government turning them away with penalty of being arrested, you know, with threat of being arrested. You know so a lot of things out there that are, it's disturbing. There's, you know, there's all the amazing wonderful parts of people doing, you know, just stepping up and doing what needs to be done. Then there's that other side of it and at the end of the day, it keeps coming down to the same thing that anyone with eyes is looking at this administration and saying, wow, could you screw up any worse, you know? And, of course, falling right on Kamala's head.

Speaker 3: 12:58

Yeah, it is and we'll. That all really kind of came to a head. We'll talk about Milton in a minute. But so there's a guy named David Axelrod. I don't know if you know who he is. He is a um, he's a Democrat strategist, right Um, and he's been, he has been around for a long time, um, so he, he started in Chicago in the seventies. Right Um has worked for, like you know, senator Paul Simon from Illinois. He worked for, like you know, senator paul simon from illinois. He worked for a couple of chicago mayors. He, he worked, um, you know, for hillary and he worked for president obama and he worked like his. His list of clientele is a veritable who's who of of liberal, uh, you know, democrat politicians. Oh, by the way, has also done work advising elections or campaigns in Canada, italy and the UK, right, so if it's blue and it's politics, this guy is in the know.

Speaker 3: 13:50

Okay, so a couple of years ago he started a podcast, as people do, right, and he just said the other day and I wrote a blog about this, but he just said the other day that the people in in Asheville are a, you know, kind of a liberal upscale, you know well-to-do class of people and they will find a way to vote. The people in the mountains, who are, you know, hard up right now, I mean, their lives are ruined. They're also, you know, financially a little bit more challenged, you know kind of thing. And he basically separated the two into classes liberal, upscale, educated, wealthy, and, you know, mountain conservative, you know poor people, kind of thing. And he said the people in Asheville are going to find a way to vote, the people in the mountains probably aren't.

Speaker 3: 14:42

And so all of the interpretation of that is is that is why you're not seeing help from the federal government. Keep in mind who said it. This guy is a Democrat, like he is in the know. That guy is in every inner circle that you can imagine, saying that out loud. I didn't say this, you didn't say it. That guy said it, david Axelrod. And if he said it, there is some truth behind that, right.

Speaker 2: 15:03

That's extremely telling, extremely telling. And of course you know everybody watching and listening is going yeah, well, no duh. But the point being here is who said it Like you said? Who just said that you know we can say until we're blue in the face? And of course anyone on the left is going to say, oh, you're just conspiracy theorists, you're crazy. Uh, excuse us, oh, you're just conspiracy theorists, you're crazy.

Speaker 3: 15:24

Excuse us, yeah, yeah, the guy on the inside. I mean, he really is the guy on the inside and he said it out loud, so that's very, very telling you know in how all of this is being handled and managed.

Speaker 2: 15:40

You know, interestingly, though, we've got two very different points of view from the White House.

Speaker 3: 15:43

Yes, right, oh my goodness, yeah, and it'll roll. We'll roll this right into into Milton. But you know the president is is saying one thing. You know I'm in contact with these people, I'm I'm talking to these people, I'm doing these things and you know, if you've seen it, there is a. You know there was a little bit of a spat where vice president Harris said she tried to call Governor DeSantis in Florida and he wouldn't take her call. Yes, did you see him on Hannity?

Speaker 2: 16:10

Oh, he's so good, so here. So I'll backtrack just a tiny bit and you know, here's what she had to say. Here's what she had to say.

Speaker 7: 16:19

Resources and health. How does that hurt the situation here? You know, moments of crisis, if nothing else, should really be the moment that anyone who calls themselves a leader because they're going to put politics aside and the people first People are desperately in support right now and playing political games at this moment in these crisis situations. These are the height of the emergency situation. This is utterly irresponsible and it is selfish, and it is about political gamesmanship, instead of doing the job that you took an oath to do to put the people first.

Speaker 2: 16:48

So that's what she had to say. This is, you know, the major component of this little firestorm that went on here is. So, in addition to this, Biden, as we said, yes, Biden is just taking a knife, putting it in and giving a twist. So the man has found some lucid moments here, apparently, and he is throwing her under the bus multiple times. Whether you know, there's argument over if he knows he's doing it or not, I definitely think he is doing it deliberately, it's on purpose.

Speaker 2: 17:19

Oh, I definitely think so. If I'm wrong, I'm fine with being wrong, but I 100% think it is totally deliberate. They must have got him on some good meds. Get him, you know, the wife must have got him on something good to get those. I think it's her. Yeah, I think it's her, jill. I really he's looking for her opportunity to, you know, throw some shots here and do a little sabotage, and so here's. Here's him, maybe not.

Speaker 5: 17:44

The governor of Florida has been cooperative. He said he's gotten all that he needs. I talked to him again yesterday and I said I said no, you're doing a great job, it's all being done well. We thank you for it, and I literally gave my personal phone number to call.

Speaker 2: 17:57

So that's just a day apart, her and then him making that statement, and in the meantime, desantis, of course, who is, you know, in my opinion, pretty much always just on point and on fire. He of course slammed her for trying to play political games, and of course, you know, then there's the back and forth You're playing political games, no, you're playing. Well, we all know it's Kamala playing political games. He's just trying to, you know, help his state. So his exact quote here. He says I didn't know that she had called, so. So his exact quote here.

Speaker 2: 18:25

He says I didn't know that she had called, so I'm not sure who they called. They didn't call me, and their characterization of it was something that they did. It wasn't anything that anybody in my office did in terms of saying that it was political. Then he says that the notion that he was selfish for focusing on the state of Florida was delusional, and then he goes on to say she has no role in this. In fact, she's been vice president for three and a half years. I've dealt with a number of storms under this administration. She has never contributed anything to any of these efforts, and so what I think is selfish is her trying to blunder into this. She has no role in this process. I mean, he just eviscerated her.

Speaker 3: 19:02

Yeah, that was as truthfully, as clear and as deliberate as you could get yes and and and. A hundred percent correct. Yeah, all of it.

Speaker 2: 19:12

Absolutely yeah. And I mean he's like what is what? Who does she think she is? She's not the president. You know, if she's the president, that's one thing you're. You got no part in this. Go, go, go in your corner, shut up.

Speaker 3: 19:22

Yeah, and, and and. That's basically what he said, and he's right. As the vice president, unless delegated from the president, she has no responsibility or role in this, which clearly he has not, because he, the president Biden, spoke to Governor DeSantis himself. She's not in the middle of this. She's trying to insert herself in the middle of this right.

Speaker 2: 19:41

And she got smacked down, yeah.

Speaker 3: 19:44

She dropped the ball in the Carolinas and in Georgia. Right Day after Helene hit. Who's on the ground? President Trump, walking around, you know, writes the sees what's going on, writes the check, brings in fuel and all kinds of stuff with him. She missed it, blew it right. She was. She was off doing a presser somewhere.

Speaker 2: 20:00

Oh, you know what she was off doing, clay? She was very, very busy doing a very important podcast called call her daddy. Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, here we have a. We have a little clip of this, and let me preface it by saying that she chose to do this interview on this podcast, which is primarily, primarily about sex. Essentially is what the whole thing is about. And, um, she decides to do this video in the middle. You remember all those pictures I just showed you. While all of this is happening, she thought to herself this is a good idea, and here's what she had to say.

Speaker 8: 20:35

Well, I think you and your listeners have really got this thing right, which is one of the best ways to communicate with people is to be real, you know, and to talk about the things that people really care about. What I love about what you do is that your voice and your show is really about your listeners, and I think, especially now, this is a moment in the country and in life where people really want another scene and heard, and that they're part of a community, that they're not out there alone, and so I'm really glad to be these are her words in the middle of a natural national catastrophe and people are dead and dying and missing and lost everything that they have and not getting anything, any hope really the irony of the words is that, you know, people want to be heard and they don't want to be out there alone and they want to be in a community.

Speaker 3: 21:33

And that is exactly what was going on. Yeah, people were being isolated by the flood waters, Right, right. And and you know, a podcast is not doing that Right, right In the aftermath of Helene, that's a community right. Doing that, right, right In the aftermath of Helene, that's a community right. You had all those people coming together bringing supplies, bringing aircraft, bringing you know what I mean Doing all these rescue operations, saving, you know, farm animals and people and pets and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2: 21:57

That's a community podcast, not so much no, and she is nowhere to be seen with any of this, except for on a sex show podcast.

Speaker 3: 22:05

So she, she knows it right With Georgia and the Carolinas, so she's trying to get ahead of it with Florida. And she stepped in Like to try and insert herself in this before it became an issue and then to try and call out DeSantis because he didn't take her phone call. Like this. She screwed this up so badly.

Speaker 2: 22:23

Monumentally, monumentally. I mean, if this doesn't, if this alone there's so many things before this that should have done it this alone should end her, should completely end her legitimate. Well, there is no legitimacy. But end her candidacy, end her run here, because if she they pull this off, it is because there is such a huge machine behind her. I mean, we know that there is, but that is inconceivable. That any American right now, after all of this, is still saying, yeah, I'll vote for her.

Speaker 3: 22:59

You have to be an absolute moron and I am not sorry for calling that at all it's tough to justify in the seeing this like seeing this in real time as it's happening, it's tough to justify, and you know. So again, we're recording this shortly after 1 PM Eastern time. You know Milton has not yet made landfall and this is cat five. This is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, storm to hit Florida in history.

Speaker 3: 23:25

Yeah, as far as winds scope, I mean, at one point the eye was four miles wide. I mean, this thing is crazy, big and dangerous. Yeah, so it's supposed to make landfall here tonight. And you know, for all those folks down in Florida, you know we're praying for you and hoping for the best If you decided to stay. You know I'm not faulting anybody's choices, but you decided to stay. You know I'm not I'm not faulting anybody's choices, but you stay Right, yeah so, but we'll see what happens in the aftermath of this. I know Florida is ready, because they do all the time. Yeah Right, the trucks are prepositioned, the supplies are prepositioned. You know they're where they need to be, where they're going to be protected, not destroyed by the storm itself, like this is, you know, and this one's big and it's going to be nasty.

Speaker 2: 24:12

And I'm not saying that this is par for the course or old hat for Florida, but it kind of is. Yeah, yeah, they know, they know this is. You know this is a reality for them and they brace for it as best they can. You know, I saw a video just this morning of a woman is really, it's actually pretty heartbreaking because I'm sure she's representative of a lot of Floridians right now in this situation and you know the gist of it was she is in a high risk area, they were told to evacuate and her response to that is you know, basically, I know you think I'm crazy for staying, I don't want to stay, but I have six kids, I have pets, I, you know, I have all of these things. And where is it that you want me to go? Where do you think I can go? You know, obviously, limited means probably financially limited means Um, where is it? Do you think I can go with six kids? You know four dogs, this, that and the other thing, and everything is booked up. You know every place is is booked, solid roads, you can't get anywhere. You know they're, they were at this point. They've been telling people like you're, you're staying. You don't really you don't have a choice. You got to stay where you're.

Speaker 2: 25:11

Obviously, airports are closed. Today, my daughter, my older daughter, was actually supposed to fly into Florida today. That was obviously pre-planned. So that, of course, was of course obviously canceled. But yeah, and you know your heart breaks for these people because it's it is really easy to say, well, they told you to evacuate, go like go. And then you think about people like that. I think about my, you know, my daughter and her family there they're, they're, they're central Florida, they're. You know as safe as you're going to get. Of course, they're going to get plenty of effect from this, probably, but they're not in a storm surge area where there's big bodies of water. So that's a relief. I'm still praying, of course, but yeah, it's like you know, they have 12 horses and, you know, half a dozen dogs, three little kids, I mean.

Speaker 3: 25:57

And and oh, by the way, everything North of them has been destroyed. Yes, like you're going to have to come out of Florida and hang a left right, you're going to have to go to Alabama. You're going to have to go to, you know, mississippi and Arkansas, because you know Georgia's wrecked right. All of their facilities are booked up, they're hard up on fuel, you know all of those things. So, even if you can get out of Florida, you know it's it's going after that as a problem. You know. So we'll see. You know, like I said, I have no doubt in my mind that the plan by the state of Florida, governor DeSantis and his entire team is wired as tight as you can get it. Yeah, so we'll see what the after effect is and we'll see where the you know where the candidates step in and what kind of impact they have. You know I have no doubt President Trump's response will be very similar to what it was in Georgia. You know what I mean. He's a Florida resident right Mar-a-Lago and all that.

Speaker 3: 26:48

So you know he'll be there, he'll be in the midst of it, he'll pop his head in there Probably, write another big old check, you know. And then Vice President Harris will try to figure out where she fits in, because you know she's going to insert herself in a place and listen as somebody. You know, I was aid to camp for three-star general for a year in Afghanistan and and I know from personal experience the impact of a visit by a VIP, right, I mean my boss. You know he was the second ranking guy in Afghanistan and when we would go somewhere we knew that it was a disruption and we tried to minimize the disruption as much as humanly possible, right? Anytime somebody steps foot into something like this, it's a disruption.

Speaker 3: 27:31

Right, president Trump? He showed it in Georgia. He flew in, he walked around, he wrote the check, he got out of there because he knew he was going to cause more stress on the system, right? I don't know if Vice President Harris has that kind of awareness of who she is and what kind of tail she brings with. You know, president Trump has the financial, personal means to walk in there, write a check and walk out. Right, she does not. So her benefit as the vice president better be with federal funding and it better come that day, because otherwise all she is doing is causing stress on the system, yep.

Speaker 2: 28:06

So yeah, nobody needs, nobody needs to be freaking photo op you know for 20 minutes of pretending to be, you know, looking very serious and concerned. Photo over.

Speaker 3: 28:16

And it's not helping, it's not helpful. So you know she, if she's smart, she'll fly in, she'll fly out, yeah Right, and not try and make it anything bigger than that. She won't bother, governor DeSantis, she won't. You know, try and bring people together and sit around a table like do none of that, just get in, get your shoes dirty and get out of the way, right?

Speaker 2: 28:36

But she won't, she won't she won't. No, she's you know. Her long series of you know, catastrophic missteps is on full display. Her actions have been so non-presidential that it's, you know, it's like watching your proverbial slow moving train wreck. Right, I mean her, you know. Her inability to articulate in front of a crowd without assistance, without a teleprompter, in front of a crowd without assistance, without a teleprompter, without a controlled, you know, highly highly controlled environment has just been put on display a couple few times. What do?

Speaker 7: 29:21

we have the video, of course we do. Here she is freezing up when her teleprompter freezes up. Oh, remember his number 32. Today we got 32 days until the election. So 32 days, 32 days, okay, we got some business to do, we got some business to do. All right, 32 days and we know we will do it. 32 days and we know we will do it. And this is going to be a very tight race until the very end. This is going to be a very tight race until the very end.

Speaker 2: 29:59

We are the underdog and we know we have some hard work ahead. Remember his number 32. Yeah, so the the, the moment. I think everybody can see that moment when it and she does the deep, that deep breath, that you know what she was saying under her breath there and all she could come out with 32 days 32 days, 32 days. Yeah, we're at 27 days, people, I think, 27 days, I believe.

Speaker 3: 30:31

So that that is yeah, I think it's 27. That is no preparation on her part. That's what that is. Yeah, you, you know, whenever anybody's done any amount of public speaking teleprompter or not right, or a form of that you still have to know the speech.

Speaker 2: 30:47

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 30:48

You still have to know it. And she clearly walked into that not knowing the message, not know speech, only knowing I got a teleprompter in front of me and read off the teleprompter, and that's right. And so that her lack of flexibility or lack of ability to adjust, as you just showed right, or she showed us again, is exactly what will become a hindrance when this thing, when she visits Florida after Milton Right, and it's baffling to me that she doesn't know, because all she does is repeat the same thing over and over again.

Speaker 2: 31:20

So how was she not able to, you know, rebound that quickly and just default, like, go to your default, like I'm not encouraging it, but that's what you would think she would do. It shouldn't be easy for her to do, because all she does is regurgitate the same talking points over and over again. Right, all you have to say is we're the underdogs. Um, um, american people, um, you know, uh, ambitious, and you know we have character, and I have one that middle class and middle class family. People love their lawns. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 31:55

She's, she's just my. My personal opinion is and I've said this for a long time she's just not that smart.

Speaker 3: 32:00

Yeah, and everybody will say she's, she's an attorney and she's this and she's that. I don't care, right, she may be able to memorize stuff and I'm not even sure she can do that, right, but I just don't. I don't think she's. She's really that intelligent, which is a significant problem. So we'll see what happens in the aftermath of Florida. You know my again, my assessment is Trump's going to come in. He's going to do the hero thing. People are going to love him and he's going to get out of the way. And she's going to come in and she's going to be in the way and she's not even going to realize it, but we'll see what.

Speaker 3: 32:27

what happens with all that? You know? Look for all of that. You know we're again. We're expecting Milton to make landfall tonight, wednesday night, and you know it'll probably last a good 18 to 24 hours and I would imagine somewhere on Friday-ish you'll start to see. You know, people like president Trump, you know trombone around down there.

Speaker 2: 32:53

Yep, definitely Yep. Our prayers and thoughts are with everyone that is affected and potentially to be affected and, of course, still trying to just recover from Helene. Right now, our hearts just absolutely break and again we'll reiterate what we said last week If you are capable of helping, please do so. You know, whatever your means are, whether it's financial. If you are capable of helping, please do so. You know, whatever your means are, whether it's financial, whether it's, you know, donating goods, if you know. If I want to say, if you can get out there to help, do it, but only under the advisement of the people there.

Speaker 2: 33:18

You know, sometimes it gets overwhelming and confusing. So make sure you're in communication. Don't just show up, you know the thought is wonderful, but make sure you're in communication with uh, with people there, and find out what they actually need. And sometimes they tell you you know we need you just to not don't, don't come over here right now. It's just too much, um, but yeah, um, you know, obviously we got to keep talking about Kamala for a couple more minutes, um, because you know, again, the catastrophe train that she is, uh, just kept rolling right into, you know. So we already covered some of the interviews. I want to talk for a minute about her 60 minutes interview. So where I give credit is that they actually did ask her the tough questions.

Speaker 3: 33:58

They did.

Speaker 2: 33:59

Gave her some tough ones.

Speaker 3: 34:00

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:00

And what did she do? Fail epically, which is crazy to me, because you didn't get any indication what they're going to be asking you Like. Even if they didn't give her the questions in advance, even if they didn't, she had to, like they had to prep her to say so. Here are some of the things they might ask what are you going to answer? Here's your answer Fail. And then the next big fail on that really is actually a little bit scandalous, might I say they changed yeah, and we have it. Here it is.

Speaker 8: 34:38

But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.

Speaker 2: 35:08

So give me your thoughts. Give me your thoughts first on her actual answer. What did you think of her actual response?

Speaker 3: 35:15

So I mean that her actual response is shows that she has absolutely no clue about diplomacy. She had no clue about foreign relations and she certainly doesn't understand global conflict, like in the, with the ability to articulate what is actually going on right In any way, shape or form. That was, you know, her classic word salad. She, she couldn't even circle. Talk that because I don't even know if she knew how to do that. You know and I can promise you. So that was actually shown on air as a teaser for the actual 60 Minutes interview, right Before 60 Minutes was on the air. Then 60 Minutes is on the air and then you get the second answer and you know, a whole bunch of GOP watchdog groups were like whoa, wait a minute.

Speaker 2: 36:03

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait one stinking minute here.

Speaker 3: 36:06

It was exactly what you thought it was it was. She got done with the first answer and somebody went that was awful, we need to retape that. So she re-taped an answer to the question after having the ability to stop, think about it, probably have somebody tell her what to say, right? And then they showed that and I don't know who, at 60 minutes, didn't like sync up the teaser trailer with the show. I don't know if it was on purpose or not. I do know that he followed up a number of times in that interview with basically saying to her but you didn't answer the question. Or the question was how are you going to pay for it? And then she would talk and he would go. But but we live in reality. That's not how it gets made for you know, and that was probably the most um, you know, attacking interview that she has sat through- no question about it, and it was probably to.

Speaker 2: 37:00

The intent was probably to show that she can handle the tough questions. Yeah, here's actually, here's one of the nonsensicals. And then the follow up and it's so uncomfortable in a wonderful way. Here it is.

Speaker 9: 37:14

Was democracy best served by President Biden stepping down and basically handing you a nomination? You didn't have to go through a primary process. You didn't have to fight off other contenders. That's not really the way our system was intended to work.

Speaker 8: 37:31

President Biden made a decision that I think history is going to show is rare among leaders, which was to put country before self, and I am proud to have earned the support of the vast majority of delegates and to have been elected the Democratic nominee. I am proud to have received the endorsement of leaders around this country, from every background and walk of life, to fight in this election over the next month for our democracy.

Speaker 9: 38:07

But I think this truncated process is why people think or say they don't really know who you are Look, I've been in this race for 70 days still didn't answer the question still did not answer the gosh darn question.

Speaker 2: 38:24

Yeah, wow, you know, and, and I'm always struck by and I know this is a pretty frequent conversation I'm always struck by her pauses in between, like every sentence, basically, like it definitely does not help the whole. You know earrings as a bluetooth thing. Her responses, like it does not help the case at all, because those pauses are so well-timed with, okay, now say this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean. Like it's so, so, it's so bad, it's so bad, so that's that's one right she also did.

Speaker 3: 38:57

She did Howard Stern, oh right, she did Stephen Colbert, right, and you get. You know, every, all of our viewers and listeners know those were exactly what you would assume they would be. The the the big one, though, and again, not not a surprise, but she went on the View, right, she went into the cackling. She went into the cackling hen house and you know, she got the softball questions Right, but the one that is the most her response to you. Know she got the softball questions Right, but the one that is the most her response to. You. Know, is there anything that you would change about? You know, President Biden, over the last four years, or? You know, and as we've talked about, right, she's trying to, she's failing, but she's trying to disassociate herself. Right, decisions made by President Biden over and over and over again, and given the opportunity to separate herself again, she said, nope, not a single thing. Right, but really not even Afghanistan, yeah.

Speaker 2: 39:51

Not even that, not that. No, you wouldn't do anything different there. And, by the way, that reminds me, we have another clip of Biden taking the knife and going in her, and you know, essentially on exactly what we're saying. So here's that.

Speaker 5: 40:03

Talk about how your vice president, who is running for the presidency, has worked on these crises and what role she has played over the past several days. Well, I'm in constant contact with her. She's aware we're all singing from the same song sheet. She helped pass all the laws of being employed. Now she was a major player in everything we've done, including passage of legislation which we were told we could never pass. And so she's been, and her staff is in a lot with mine in terms of all the things we're doing.

Speaker 2: 40:29

Yeah, so you know and of course that's a shot also, as you could hopefully see in the caption above it, a shot at all that people are like, well, she wasn't president, so you know, you can't blame her for well, I mean, according to the actual president, yeah, you can, she was part of it all. So, yeah, I mean the, the knife twist, yeah.

Speaker 3: 40:49

You know, she, she said, and you know that she said a number of times, I was the last person in the room when those decisions were made. You know, I may, you know, I have sat there with President Biden. I was the last person in the room. I gave him that final advice blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, of course, you know, for a very brief period of time it was like oh yeah, I had nothing to do with that, you know, and and all of this, and, and now she's circled back, as she tends to do, cause she, she can't take a position and stick with it. She circled back to, you know, oh no, there's, there's nothing. There's so many glaring issues from the last four years that, given the opportunity, she couldn't articulate anything that she would change Literally nothing.

Speaker 2: 41:32

Nothing, not a thing Fascinating.

Speaker 3: 41:34

She's so in. She is a manufactured political figure. There's zero substance to who she is political figure. There's zero, zero substance to who she is. She is an absolute puppet, more so than any politician at the federal level that we've seen in my lifetime. 100% manufactured yeah, she is just a plant. She's a plant, more than one. She's a plant sitting in a chair is what she is.

Speaker 2: 42:01

She's just completely useless, right? Well, you had said I'm pretty sure it was you had said a little while back in one of our episodes that you know they hit a point when they realized that she was going to be the one that they kind of had no choice but to put her in line there. Um, that they, it was almost like it became a foregone conclusion that they were going to throw this one, like just throw it out, let you know, let let these four years play out, and then come back with a vengeance. And I mean everything. Every single thing that we're seeing seems to really um, compliment that, you know. Yeah, I mean yeah, she's personally putting a fight up.

Speaker 3: 42:38

You know what I mean, for lack of, I guess probably she doesn't want to be completely embarrassed. I think that's also why they wasted Walls. They didn't pick Shapiro, because I think in 2028, you're going to see Shapiro, I think he's going to be the Democratic nominee. But they didn't waste any assets on this. They're also not wasting a lot of effort on it, and the only one I think who's trying is her staff, which sucks for them because she's an incompetent. But she's been an incompetent for three and a half years, so it's not new news. But yeah, I mean she's. She's just completely useless and unfortunately, as we've said, people are still going to vote for her Like I can't.

Speaker 3: 43:23

And I know you know we've talked about this before there's plenty of single issue voters out there and I think that's you know, whether you know your single issue is abortion. You know, and you're pro choice, right You're? You're going to vote for her If that's a hard line for you. If you're anti-gun, you're going to vote for her right. If you're pro LGBTQ, you're going to vote for her, right. You're a single issue voter on any of those three things and that's all that matters to you. All of those people are voting for Right Right.

Speaker 2: 43:49

And those are, and you know those are your most vocal ones. Those are the ones that you know they won't shut up. They're on every single platform, every single post, every single video, everywhere Putting in their two cents because they're rabid. You know they're. They're rabid about their single issue and that is the most important thing in their universe. You know, or you know so. They present um. So you're completely right on that. They are the. They are the actual diehards, which has nothing to do with her as a person, her as a candidate, just her as a vessel, essentially for what they want.

Speaker 2: 44:20

And the rest of them that are voting for her um are not supporters, they're not fans of hers, they're never Trumpers. Right, that's all they are. Yeah, you know. So those are, those are your Harris voters, and none of them are actually for Harris herself. You know, cause, as we know, as it's been shown time and again, not a single one of them can tell you any of her accomplishments, any of her qualities, any of her things. All they've got is well, female, black president, cool, yay, you know so.

Speaker 3: 44:51

So, yeah, I mean yeah, so we'll, you know it's going to play out. You know we've, we've got to. What'd you did? You say 27 days, left 27 days. We're going to see what it looks like and I think we all. I'm not even going to speculate because who knows what's going to happen. And so you know, as promised, we are going to change topics, but this has the potential, this has the potential to impact even the election.

Speaker 2: 45:18

Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, you know. So the thing with this guy, his connections, Exactly.

Speaker 2: 45:26

His, his reach is as close as even Kamala. You know she is a, she's a fangirl of celebrities of Hollywood, you know. So that is her world. Hollywood, you know, so that is her world. And of course, this skeezy, gross looking human being who is subhuman.

Speaker 2: 45:47

And I said this to Clay before and I just want to pat myself on the back for this I have always thought that that man had the deadest, coldest, sociopathic eyes I've ever seen, right up there with all of the rest of the you know sociopaths out there. And you know, here we are, here we are. So we have let me find it for you. We have kind of the rundown of this. So, if you're not paying attention and I know there was a lot of people, especially in the conservative lane, that just say I don't want to know anything about these people, so I'm not following it, I don't, maybe you don't even know who this guy is Uh, he is a mega superstar in the music industry, particularly rap. I mean, he goes back as far as the um. Um, give me the names again Notorious BIG yeah.

Speaker 3: 46:36

Back into the into the mid to late nineties. He's been around for a long time. He's been around for a long time, yeah, Performer to producer, um, and, and has reach across Hollywood, not the music industry, but into movies and television and, and and all of that. Of course, as today goes in the politics, he is connected to politicians, right?

Speaker 2: 46:55

Yes, yes, he's got so many names in his um catalog there and, uh, let's you know, just for one, just for a name that everyone will recognize J-Lo Jennifer Lopez was a longtime girlfriend of his, so eyes are looking at her, as well as many other people, so let me give you the very, very quick rundown as fast as I can do it. So, sean Diddy Combs. He's in custody after being arrested and indicted by federal authorities in New York. He's accused of operating an empire, an empire of sexual crimes dating back to at least 2008. Um, blah, blah, blah. Let's see what else I'm trying. I'm like, obviously, I'm reading this for you guys. Um, so, his longtime, I think, girlfriend came forward and accused him of, uh, beating her and of rape. And she's not the only one.

Speaker 2: 47:43

There have been many, many allegations of this. There are, they had. It's so gross, it's so gross to even talk about. He is notorious for what they are calling freak offs parties, where I mean, you can guess, I'm not even you can guess, right, everybody can kind of guess what that involves. There's a lot of disgusting things that have come up. You're welcome to go look it up. I'm not even going to. I'm not even going to go there and what else? Yes, and of course, one of the biggest names that people have been talking a lot about is Justin Bieber, and there's a lot of videos circulating, you know, going back to and kind of revisiting that timeframe when Bieber was just a kid, you know, like 15, 16 years old, maybe even younger than that, and, uh, sean Combs, diddy I'm going to call him Sean Combs Cause I just can't keep saying diddy, I just can't.

Speaker 2: 48:29

Um, he, you know, on the surface, what he made it look like he was taking, taking Justin Bieber under his wing, you know and mentoring him. And there's a lot of they're not even just I don't think there's allegations anymore, but we'll call them allegations of him abusing him along with quite a few other young, impressionable minors, and this is, yeah, a lot of accusations of child sexual assault.

Speaker 3: 48:57

Yes, and Bieber was a minor at the time. Yes, and you know he was taking on that role of producer, performer, and there are some film clips now that you look back at and you're like ew Combs, being 10 years senior to Bieber and talking about the two of them wrestling and some other things, and this is far reaching. But it's also in a day and age where you're like, okay, well, celebrities are all weird and they're going to do their own thing and whatever, but this is, you know, high level sex trafficking. Also, you know, there's accusations of use of drugs, in a sense of drugging victims unknowingly. Not somebody got, you know, did a couple of lines of Coke, you know, willingly. This is like supposedly they had gallons and gallons and gallons of baby oil that was spiked with a topical narcotic that would put you into an ecstasy-like state.

Speaker 3: 49:53

So there's all kinds of horrible stuff and this is another Epstein right, another Epstein kind of situation that has long, long tentacles and is going to reach into the world of politics and into the world of business. There are names and I'm you know these are. I'm just repeating what's out there. I'm not making accusations myself, but there are names like Bill Gates. You know there are names of politicians in there, right? You know I hate to say this, but President Obama has a relationship with a lot of people in the same circles as Sean Combs, so there's a lot of far-reaching potential for this thing, right?

Speaker 2: 50:34

And two, I don't want to say credit, I guess, to his evil intelligence. Diddy actually has videotapes. Yep, like a I think there was basically like a room full of of videographic proof you know to use as blackmail or as collateral should he go down. So he knew the potential, he knew the possibilities of. You know, if anybody tried to take him down, that he planned on taking them all down with him. And you know, curiously, he's, of course, in protective custody on suicide watch.

Speaker 2: 51:09

Very, very Epstein, like right, very echoey of that. And yeah, like you said, this is, this is way further reaching. You know anybody who's watched this or listened to it or caught it just in their peripheral and thought, oh gross, just another Hollywood, you know, or celebrity or whatever. Who cares? We probably should care, because this goes way beyond, like you said, way beyond a bunch of you know filthy, slimy celebrities doing freaky, dirty things with each other. This involves minors, sex trafficking, flat out abuse, and a lot of high powered people and notably I think it was about I don't know the names, but half a dozen record top executives resigned effective immediately once he was taken into custody and arrested and and all of that. So you know, timing is interesting. So there's a lot of people who are now um, really scared.

Speaker 3: 52:08

Yeah, I, I don't think, honestly. I I don't think we're going to see anything major politically before the election, right, um, but I think there is potential to see things major in the, in the world of celebrity, before the election, and then conclusions will be drawn, right. So I think, as you know, this stuff starts to leak. You know people will connect some dots here and there and you know assumptions will be made and it will be not good for some folks in the political arena. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2: 52:38

We will keep an eye on that, Clay. We got a couple of minutes left. I want you to talk to me about this documentary.

Speaker 3: 52:43

Yeah, so it's a Tucker Carlson production. You know I'm a I'm a growing Tucker fan. I was not a Tucker fan for a long time but I'm growing. You know I still have a hang up with his, his laugh, but.

Speaker 3: 52:58

But this documentary is called the Art of the Surge. But this documentary is called the Art of the Surge and this is really about President Trump and everything from shortly before Butler and the assassination attempt. There's only two episodes out now, but they're going to continue to drop episodes weekly all the way up to the election. So there's two episodes out now and it goes through Butler, right, it goes through the assassination attempt. And there is some film footage in here that you have not seen and will not see anywhere else. There's personal cell phone footage from the staff. There is personal cell phone footage from some of the people in the audience that day, interviews with people in the audience, interviews with the doctor who did and really this is on site like the guy still got blood on him who did CPR, on the firefighter who was unfortunately killed. You see, you get a glimpse into how involved President Trump is in the production value of everything he does, to the point where he's standing there like he's getting ready to walk out into an arena full of people and the music's playing and he's talking to the sound guy going okay, bring it down just a little bit. Okay, yeah, like he's in it and then.

Speaker 3: 54:01

But the thing that struck me about Butler that I don't think any of us grasped until this is they show a really decent amount of film footage of people and I mean a lot of people pointing at the building, yelling to the police and saying there's a guy up there, there's a guy, look at him, he's up on the roof. There's a guy up there, you know, and like people knew, people saw, people try to alert, nobody panicked and then shots are fired and listen, there was whatever, it was 60,000 people out there. It is still amazing to me and this is something I think everybody should keep in mind when they watch this, and I do encourage you to watch it Nobody ran, nobody. There was no stampede, there was no chaos. It was a very controlled and some people will turn that into conspiracy theories, some people turn it into whatever.

Speaker 3: 54:51

I will tell you that that sampling of people that wasn't just Butler, pa, that was people from all over that region, pittsburgh right into Ohio. There were, people traveled all over the place to go to this thing the fact that it all remained that calm, that nobody panicked, nobody freaked out and nobody caused a stampede. Right, those people are built different and I will tell you that's the voting base for president Trump. I'm not saying it's everybody and I'm not saying it's you know, but that is the base. They are strong, you know people who, who are calm under pressure, who work, you know, have lived hard lives and know and understand, you know, the value of of just remaining resilient in the middle of all of that. It was shocking, striking to me, I think, is the best word I can come up with. It just was amazing to watch all of that happen and nobody freaked out, nobody.

Speaker 2: 55:41

It just was amazing to watch all of that happen and nobody freaked out. Nobody, yeah, because really the the level of death and injury that could have happened and has happened in many other circumstances.

Speaker 6: 55:54

Sure.

Speaker 2: 55:54

Similar circumstances. Yeah, yeah, I mean, what a great, what an important thing to point out that you know the toughness of that voter base, our voter base, yeah, wow.

Speaker 3: 56:04

It's a Tucker Carlson Again, I haven't seen him. I think he's just a producer on it or it's just through his network, but it's two episodes are out now. I think there's another three or four leading up to the election, and it really is about President Trump and the comeback you know from Butler on and um and and really the surge into the last days of the election.

Speaker 2: 56:22

So which, of course, he just revisited, and I think they said something about a like a hundred thousand. Oh, it's crazy.

Speaker 3: 56:30

Did you see the pictures of the crowd?

Speaker 2: 56:31

Yeah. So those aerial footage of it. It's a get you right in the heart, man.

Speaker 3: 56:37

But it was good. I again I'm going to watch the. I'm going to watch it until it's over with and it's a great, if nothing else, for the film footage alone that you get from people's cell phones and stuff is pretty awesome. So it's a good peek into the campaign itself. But really about being in and around President Trump, I love it.

Speaker 2: 56:52

I look forward to watching it. I'm going to binge watch them, oh my goodness. Well, my friends, we thank you for joining us, as always, and again just going to remind you we record on Wednesday. You're watching on Thursday. If something happens which it possibly could and probably could, between this moment and that moment, the reason why we're not talking about it is because we're recorded. I'm a little testy about those comments. I'm a little testy, I'm a little spicy about them, and only because maybe it's a little bit at myself, because every other episode we always do mention that we're recording, and that's the one episode that we didn't throw that out there. At least, I don't remember saying it.

Speaker 2: 57:33

And of course a couple of people got fired up about it and all mad. They had to go take their ball and go home because they were so mad. But I'm happy for them that that is the most frustrating thing to happen to them in life, I guess. I don't know Anyhow, all right. First, world problems.

Speaker 2: 57:47

Yeah, exactly right, I'm done being spicy, back to being sweet. We love you guys. We appreciate you joining us and participating in the show. We look forward to bringing you more stuff, because there's always going to be more to talk about Clay. Anything you want to tell them before we say bye-bye.

Speaker 3: 58:02

Listen. Folks in North Carolina and in the Carolinas recovering from Helene hang tough, and the folks in Florida preparing for Milton. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. I know that that's kind of a cliche thing to say, but it's the best we can do right now for those of you that either had to or decided to stay. So good luck to you all and just be safe as best you can.

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