Unveiling Assassination Attempts on Trump, Harris's Interview, and Middle East Casualties

How could an assailant know the exact whereabouts of President Trump during an unscheduled golf outing? This episode uncovers the chilling details of two recent assassination attempts on President Trump, raising serious questions about potential security leaks and the effectiveness of current protocols. We meticulously examine the Secret Service's response, the peculiar behavior of the suspects, and the subsequent media coverage, which has been both controversial and, at times, shockingly biased.

Our conversation dives into Hillary Clinton's contentious comments and the media's portrayal of these harrowing events, juxtaposed against Trump's own recount of the incidents. We dissect the swift actions of vigilant citizens and the Secret Service's role in preventing these potential tragedies. The analysis extends to a broader discussion about the heightened risks and the necessity for robust security measures for former presidents, even when they are no longer in office.

Shifting gears, we scrutinize Vice President Kamala Harris's first solo interview and its strategic choice of a local Philadelphia station. Was it an attempt to control the narrative? We critique the perceived lack of substance in her responses and the broader implications of her preparedness to address critical international issues. Wrapping up, we delve into the tragic pager explosion casualties in the Middle East, shedding light on this complex and devastating incident. Don't miss this gripping episode as we navigate these intense and multifaceted current events.

Chapters

• 0:00 Attempt on Trump's Life
• 12:48 Second Attempt on President Trump
• 26:25 Analysis of Vice President Harris Interview
• 31:10 Middle East Pager Explosion Casualties

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's the Elsa. Kurtz Show with Clay Novak.

Speaker 2: 0:03

Conservative views on world news Brought to you by the Wellness Company.

Speaker 1: 0:08

Prepare for the unexpected and Refuge Medical, and now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:20

Well, hey, there guys, how is everyone doing? I'm pretty sure we're doing okay. We're both commiserating about wildly busy days, and I'm not commiserating, just conversing about them. It's good busy, though, right.

Speaker 1: 0:36

Yeah, yeah Again. I know we keep throwing all the audience a curveball, but it's Tuesday, tuesday for us. We are busy, elsa and I are busy, and so we're fitting this in on a Tuesday, but very important based on what happened to President Trump and really what's going on in Israel in the last 24 hours, or I should say because of Israel in the last 24 hours, but we'll get to all that in just a minute.

Speaker 2: 1:17

Oh, my goodness. Well, right off the darn bat, my gosh, this is crazy. It's, it's crazy, that's the given, and it's also certainly not surprising. Nobody's surprised, right? I mean, I, you know, as a Trump supporter, as a civilized, decent human being you don't even have to be a Trump supporter, trump supporter I have this low key dread feeling all the time. When it comes to thinking about that, when I think about Trump doing any rallies, trump doing any appearances. This is, you know, as they say and I hate the phrase, but I'm going to use it this is top of mind every time. Every time, that's what I'm thinking, and I can. I know I can't be the only one, right?

Speaker 1: 2:08

No, absolutely. Every time he makes a public appearance, we're all, we're all concerned, and that level of concern is going to continue to go up. Yeah, you know this is a second legitimate, you know, attempt to take his life Right, thankfully. And you know, I know the Secret Service at upper echelons is taking some crap over this. You know, like, how did this happen again? How did? How did that?

Speaker 1: 2:31

And there's there's a lot of questions to be asked, don't get me wrong, but they were proactive in this one, in that, you know they were, they were doing what they were supposed to do, right, yes, the boss was on the golf course and they had guys, you know, two holes ahead, three holes ahead. They had guys two holes behind, three holes behind. So they, you know, listen, anybody that thinks that the secret service should have covered that entire golf, every inch of that golf course, being completely unreasonable, right, it's you. You don't the manpower required for that is ridiculous. But they were proactive enough to find this guy, spot him and oh, by the way, proactively open fire. They did not wait, didn't?

Speaker 2: 3:08

wait, didn't wait, saw and shot. Yes, I'm pleased with that portion of it, you know. And the looming question, well, actually, let's, let's go, let's back backtrack just a tiny bit. I'm sure by the time you guys watch this on Thursday, we all know the story. So we'll just do like the tiniest recap, which is that Trump had an unscheduled Now this is a very key point, really unscheduled golf excursion outing this past Sunday, two months to the day of the last attempt on his life, and, um, they were like you said they were.

Speaker 2: 3:46

He had servicemen, um, or secret servicemen, two holes ahead to behind, watching everything. They spotted. All of that stuff went on, um. So the question that everybody, of course, is, you know, reasonably asking is how did a guy who is from, I think, north Carolina, resides in Hawaii or has been residing in Hawaii, how does this guy know where and when to show up to do this? And he was there, this is what they're saying. He was there for 12 hours. So the hours, yes, set up around 1 am the incident occurred. The incident sounds so trivial to say. This happened at like 1.30 in the afternoon, so 12 hours. This guy was able to bring two backpacks, an AK-47.

Speaker 1: 4:34

No, no, we'll talk about that. Okay, he had a rifle. Let's just say rifle for right now.

Speaker 2: 4:39

Just a rifle for now. Okay, so he's able to get onto the golf course and bring all this stuff. Now the Secret Service is saying, or whoever released the statement said, that no, there's, there's no surveillance or protection around there, generally speaking, because he's not a sitting president. That was their, their reasoning, and I guess if he's not there, he's not expected to be there. I guess, why would you have you know? Well, I guess this is why, right, so, yeah, so that's the big question, like how, how would this guy know? Because we don't believe in coincidence, I mean, there's no such thing as coincidence. So who tipped this guy off? Who knew you know? I mean, that's got to be a fairly small inner circle of people, relatively small, yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:26

I mean so, yes, so in the Trump camp. You know the timeline that none of us know are when did he say I'm going to play golf at Trump national right? When am I going to? You know? When did he make that decision? When did he let the secret service know? When did the secret service let the golf course know? And who in the golf course knew? That's where all of your potential leaks come from. So it's somebody either in his very most inner circle which I highly doubt somewhere in the immediate secret service detail, in the immediate secret service detail. Somebody's got either a loud mouth or can't keep a secret or want to keep a secret, which is possible. Is it somebody at the golf course? Right? I mean, there's a few, but there's only a few places where this could get out. And again, to know, 12 hours in advance. So we know the decision was made at least 12 hours before that and probably, you would imagine, 24 hours at a minimum. Beforehand, the president said you know, I think I'm going to go knock 18 tomorrow and again. So that puts the Secret Service in a bind. Whatever timeline it is, it's short and so you know, do they get the opportunity to do a full sweep and clear, whatever they're going to do. You know, I know that they had snipers out there. I've seen pictures of snipers with rifles on tripods. So I know that was part of the coverage plan.

Speaker 1: 7:00

I don't know what other assets or other local law enforcement was involved in the initial, like I know, in the follow up and the arresting and all that other stuff. They were involved, but before that, did the sheriff's department know? I don't know. Did the local police know? I don't know. So you know, was there and this is the one that keeps getting me. So they've got guys on the ground which I get right. Got to do that with the drone technology that we have. You're telling me that they couldn't get even a medium size. I'm not talking about, you know, one of these little handhelds, and I'm not talking about a predator either. You know I'm talking something medium size. Get it up to three 400 feet wide around, check it out. You know, I know we have the capability for for that. I'm sure the secret service has a capability for that. So no question, yeah, is that being done, or was it not? So that's, that's all part of it. Um, the next, the guy ralph ruth. What is ralph?

Speaker 2: 7:56

ruth? Yeah, I don't know. Let's take a. We can keep talking while we take a. Look, this is a guy.

Speaker 1: 8:00

Yeah, you know so I've heard very mixed stories about his involvement with ukraine. He tried to go over there at some point. They basically laughed him off and said, hey, man, you go recruit or whatever. But like you're not, you have no experience as a soldier, you got no experience on the battlefield, you are no help. Go home. And they sent him home. And then he was trying to. And that is from. Those are quotes from what they call it the international legion or the foreign you know. So it's all the, it's all the expat type, it's the Americans and the Brits and all the, all the Westerners who jump in and are fighting out there for Ukraine. They're the ones that said this guy was nuts.

Speaker 4: 8:51

And here I mean you know any question about if he's nuts or not. We can take a look at this 20-year-old guy that sold everything he owns to come here and fight. That is heroism. He's coming here to risk his life for humanity, for the Ukrainians. Guys that sell everything they own to come here and support the Ukrainians while others sit at home and do nothing.

Speaker 2: 9:04

So you know, one half of the hair is blue.

Speaker 1: 9:08

He's been arrested dozens of times. Yes, gun charges. That's a discussion too is where did the gun come from?

Speaker 2: 9:17

Yes.

Speaker 1: 9:17

But I heard probably that if you want an indicator that this guy's not right, from when he lived in North Carolina, one of his neighbors very nice lady right A great interview she said he was a little bit weird and she knew he was weird because he kept a horse in his house in the house.

Speaker 2: 9:34

Okay, so flags all over the place Right.

Speaker 1: 9:39

But again back to the back to the gun. Right, you said what was reported on the news, which was AK-47. Right, that was not in fact an AK-47. That was lazy by the media. What a surprise. Yeah, the actual type of rifle is what is known as an SKS, so it is somewhat of a predecessor to, or an equivalence. Not an equivalency, it's not an equivalent, but a predecessor to, or a lower tech um rifle of the early Korean war. Now, it got carried for a long time in the Soviet army. But early Korean war technology, okay, um, it is, you know, not a quote, unquote assault rifle. It's not even on the band list in most States that have assault weapons bands. Um, because it doesn't have all of the scary things that assault rifles have. Right, the magazine is fixed. It doesn't have a detachable magazine, it doesn't have a pistol grip, it doesn't have black plastic or metal all over it. It's a wood. You know what I mean. So it doesn't have any of those things.

Speaker 2: 10:38

Is this something like a collector would have like? Is this a collector's type gun?

Speaker 1: 10:42

It is a cheap version of a semi-automatic rifle that is and was available on the market for years and years and years, after the wall fell, in hundreds of copies. But again, it's not, it's not banned anywhere. In a lot of states you can actually even hunt with it. So it this is not regard. I mean, he is a felon and shouldn't have owned it in the first place. So question number one on the gun is where did it come from? Which you know that's? They'll have to track it down if it even has a serial number on it anymore. Probably doesn't, probably not. But who gave it to him? How did he get it will be of interest. But again, those who are in the you know we need to ban all assault weapons. This would not have been caught on that list. So that that and again, lazy reporting by the news, because they did report it. The media reported as an AK 47, which is on all the banned lists, right, right, along with an AR 15, but this would not have been caught on that Any of those lists?

Speaker 2: 11:37

I got to say you know, for any thinking person with even I mean I even half a brain, just a quarter of a brain, is all you really need to just get it through your skull that these bands, these, all of this nonsense is exactly that. It's nonsense, because who listens to laws and who breaks laws, who's going to? You know what I mean. I mean, come on, you're not going to get the guns, it's not going to happen. People who do illegal things, bad people, don't obey laws. So you're taking guns away from the good guys. You're you're disarming people who need to be able to protect themselves, because you're sure as heck not doing it.

Speaker 2: 12:17

And you know the police can't be everywhere at once. They can barely even do their job Thanks to legislation and all the crap that goes on, you know. So I mean just enough of the nonsense and and just for you know numbers and it could have changed. This was like up until like, um, uh, 2019, I think was the last data I saw, but 85% of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones. Everybody's so sick of this crap that's got a brain. But anyhow, I digress back to the topic. It makes me so aggravated.

Speaker 1: 12:48

So the guy is. Clearly he's off center, you know, at a minimum. Um, so he, he, he gets in there 12 hours early. Um, if you've seen photos of his little hideout, you know he had the two backpacks hanging on the fence. The rifle was there which he ditched Right. So they have it. So the Secret Service are walking in front of the president. They see him through the fence. Secret Service draws and engages. Don't hit him, obviously, but he scatters, takes off.

Speaker 1: 13:15

A couple of good, law-abiding citizens took a picture of his car and license plate. They got it to the police. Now, he did get pretty far on the highway. I mean he was an hour out by the time he got pulled over. But it takes a while for that stuff to get out to the floor. There's great footage out there of the arrest by police officers and he was, you know, this Routh guy was evidently very calm. Oh, what are you pulling me over for? I don't know what you're talking about. Right, so you know he got, he got arrested. He's in custody. I'm sure Hillary Clinton is asking why the guy's still alive, but that's a discussion, yeah.

Speaker 2: 13:55

Well, that's because DeSantis won't turn him over.

Speaker 1: 13:59

Yeah, right, right so that's still the case.

Speaker 2: 14:03

Yes, he's still not turning them over.

Speaker 1: 14:05

Yeah, as far as I know. Yes, you know it's, that's something to watch, but you know, I know that he has said that there will be a Florida investigation regardless of anything else, which you know, spoken like a true lawyer. Got to love him, yeah, but so you know, it's the second attempt on the president Right and you know as bad as that is and it's, you know, find me another president who had two legitimate assassination attempts.

Speaker 2: 14:32

Yeah, seriously, go ahead In short order, like that too, come on.

Speaker 1: 14:36

And then the reaction. Yeah, the reaction from the media and from probably the worst offender in the whole thing was secretary Clinton. I don't know if you saw the interview.

Speaker 2: 14:49

I don't understand why it's so difficult for the press to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is Absolutely Gaslighting.

Speaker 1: 15:00

you know, with less than 48 hours after it happened, back to he's a threat to the country, he's a threat to the planet. She said like wow, this is back to the same discussion we had two months ago, which was the he's not, this is saying she deserved it Cause she was wearing a short skirt. Right, it's the same thing Victim blaming.

Speaker 2: 15:21

It's absolute straight out victim blaming.

Speaker 1: 15:24

And it's happening. Lester Holt, Lester.

Speaker 2: 15:27

Holt, who's one of the most.

Speaker 1: 15:28

You know I hate to say it he's a Chicago guy. I know, I saw him. You know I watched him as a teenager and grown up. He's been around a long time and he and he is one of the old heads left in in journalism. But he was one of them. Oh, he needs to pipe down the rhetoric. No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2: 15:43

Absolutely not. Can you imagine, basically, I could lose my absolute mind over this. It's so infuriating, I mean it's, it's all the powers that be want me to swear so badly. I'm telling you, you know so Unbelievable. So obviously, the tactic right now, from you know, from the left, from the, I saw something, I think it was Glenn Beck said stop calling it mainstream media, it's state run media. And I like that and I'm changing. I'm not calling a mainstream media anymore, state run media. Which is to say, it's his own fault. He brought this on. Not even the slightest pretense now of like well, we denounced this. This is a terrible thing, it shouldn't happen. Now, it's just straight to well, it's his own fault. He opened his mouth and that's what he gets. He shouldn't wear that skirt.

Speaker 1: 16:45

You know, I love, I love Babylon B. I do too, the greatest thing we're going right now. And it was a picture of Vice President Harris, you know, who has herself called or likened President Trump to Hitler.

Speaker 2: 17:03

Yes.

Speaker 1: 17:04

Right and I think the Babylon B headline was, you know, democrats now saying they're happy that Hitler is safe. So just the disingenuous right, all of it is so disingenuous and they're just pointing that out, which is 100% true. But all of that, that reaction, but in all of the bad reaction, the one great reaction was that the call from President Trump to you know, vance, it said they wouldn't even let me finish, he's just mad because his golf got interrupted.

Speaker 2: 17:34

I love this so I actually have his. So he was on on X last night I think that was last night, and this is this is his quote. This is what he said, and I just love this guy. So here's verbatim. He says so I was playing golf with some of my friends. It was on a Sunday morning and very peaceful, very peaceful, very beautiful weather. Everything was beautiful. It was a nice place to be and all of a sudden we heard shots being fired in the air and I guess I probably four or five, oh, and I guess probably four or five, and it sounded like bullets. But what do I know about that, he says. But Secret Service knew immediately it was bullets and they grabbed me and I think probably the other one Steve is one of the people.

Speaker 2: 18:20

Steve Witkoff is a great friend of mine, a great, great businessman, you know, goes goes off the rails a little bit for a moment, talking about what a great guy he is. You know, nevermind the fact that I'm talking about my assassination attempt, um, you know. But let me just talk about what you know. I just love him for these things. Uh, so he says so we're in the group and everybody just uh, there's like a pause. We got into the carts and we moved along pretty pretty good. I was with an agent and the agent did a fantastic job. There was no question that we were off. That course I would have loved to have sank that last putt, but we decided let's get out of here. He's just a joy to me, this guy. He goes on to say and what the gunfire was actually interestingly was a Secret Service agent had seen a barrel that well, he said also AK-47. You know, they probably still know, still nobody was told.

Speaker 2: 19:08

Uh, which is a powerful gun rifle. He goes and starts shooting in the bushes um, how good is that? Right, could only see the barrel. Uh, he goes on and then he explains how, uh, he ran across the street and grabbed his car, hopped into the truck or car the uh routh or whatever his name is and he says and amazingly, a civilian in that area saw something and it looks suspicious, and they drove their car. I guess they followed is what he's basically saying and took pictures, as as we talked about, and goes on and tells the whole thing. You know, it's just. I think he had one other quote in here, but my favorite one, I think, was about the. He would have liked to sunk that putt. Yeah, I mean the guys. I mean there's only one Trump. There's only one.

Speaker 1: 19:47

Here's my projection. The next thing that you're going to start hearing is there is going to be accusations or intonations that President Trump, after two assassination attempts, is going to be suffering from PTSD, and they are going to make him.

Speaker 1: 20:03

Wait, I'm telling you they are going to question his fitness for office based on that. Wait, it's going to happen, mark my words. They're going to question his mental fitness. And listen, he's a tough guy and I understand that he is the anti-Joe Biden right. So he is that guy and I do believe that president trump is.

Speaker 1: 20:28

Trump is a pretty tough guy. I do, I think it's in him, I think it's who he is, but he did, somebody did try to kill him twice, like there there is. There is an effect on I don't care who you are right and he's. He is a dad right to you, know five kids and and I know you know baron is still pretty young and and know there's a bit of mortality that settles in. You think about that. I don't care who you are Right, so I'm sure he has thought about it, but I promise you that that line of thought and that line in the in the media is that your state run media is going to start coming out is that he has PTSD and he is and he is unfit for office. Wait on that one.

Speaker 2: 21:04

Yeah, I don't put anything past them. These are really sick, twisted people. Just to be even saying, you know, in on a national screen, on a national stage, to be sitting there and telling your audiences that he deserved this to happen. I mean, that is the messaging. So that is a sickness beyond comprehension. I tell you, I, I this whole thing seeing this side of people. And I, you know, I've been around the. I'm not, you know, I'm not a spring chicken. I've been around the block. I know people are awful, a lot of people are awful in a lot of ways.

Speaker 2: 21:38

Having said that, I, there is still a part of me that is is shocked and appalled at how absolutely horrible people are and callous and careless. I mean, this man is a grandfather, he's a father, like you said. He's a father to five. He is a grandfather to very young grandchildren. I'm sure his family won't let his grandchildren watch when he's, you know, because, talk about, you know, traumatizing. I mean, think about that for a minute. That is, these kids, these little children, are watching their grandfather, you know who. They don't know anything about politics, and nor should they. That's just their grandpa, you know, and and people are trying to kill their grandpa I. It's just unreal. It's unreal to me trying to kill their grandpa. It's just unreal. It's unreal to me. It's freaking politics.

Speaker 2: 22:32

People Calm the F down and I am the first one to say and believe that, yes, I mean we are as a society, as a civilization, we're in big trouble because of the powers that are in charge right now and will potentially continue. Yes, we're definitely in big trouble, but it's not a license just to go killing people. That's not who we are, that's not what we are, and to instigate and encourage and incite people to that level of frenzy. You're talking, you know they're talking to unhinged people and they know it, they know their target audience.

Speaker 2: 23:06

People like this, obviously, like this guy who, you know, I mean, has, oh, speaking of here's this one here. So I don't know if you guys can read this. I can barely read it without my glasses on. But time puts out this statement shortly, you know, well, I don't know, shortly after the whole thing, by the time that we had already all had the information that we collectively had. And you know they're basically saying that. You know, oh, we don't really know what his political ideology is, or a criminal record or anything about him. This is a blatant lie. At that point in time when that was posted, that was an absolute straight out lie because we all knew it was all out already.

Speaker 1: 23:44

I mean, internet detectives sitting in their basements can unearth that faster, you know in time, time will hide behind when it's convenient, and in this case, it's convenient for them to say well, none of that was verified. Yeah, so we have time to verify, we're not gonna, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. Again. They say that when it's convenient. When it's convenient, everybody knew it doesn't take long. You know, the Internet is, the Internet speed is what it is Exactly, you know. Unfortunately, you know, is there potentially going to be another one of these before November?

Speaker 2: 24:15

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would say there's, I would almost say there's no question about it. It would be more shocking if there wasn't. It's disturbing and it's scary and it will send this country into a turmoil like we have never seen. We think we're in turmoil right now, which we are. We think we know what turmoil is. If God forbid that happens, it's.

Speaker 1: 24:42

I'm with you, I'm with, I'm 100 percent with you. That is a worst case scenario for this country, and I'm not, and this isn't country, and this isn't him losing the election Right, that's not what we're talking about. That's different. No, him losing the election is one thing, if God forbid, and I don't even like talking about this but if there is another attempt and there is a successful attempt on his life, this country is going to be so destabilized and the level of violence is going to escalate like a frigging skyrocket. It's going to be, it's going to be dangerous and scary here for a while. I have no doubt in my mind about that.

Speaker 2: 25:17

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I tell you, you know I I haven't mentioned it lately, but as a Christian, there it is, there it is. You knew she'd bring it up eventually. There it is, there it is. You knew she'd bring it up eventually. Uh, yes, as a Christian, I I do keep my faith in you know the that God is in control and and I have to, and I'm sure anyone who else who is also a Christian, who believes in God, is is saying and feeling and thinking the same things that we have to just keep reminding ourselves of that.

Speaker 2: 25:44

I don't know what to tell people who don't believe. I don't know, but all I can say as a Christian, that's what we believe. And when this stuff is going on, I almost have to repeat it like a mantra, because I feel that anxiety coming up. Because when you think about everything that can possibly happen in this arena right now and we're still living through it you know whether God's in control or not, we're still living through it. So it's a if you're a praying person, pray. If you want to call it something else, wishing, hoping, call it whatever you want, just do it. Put that goodness out there. I don't know. I don't know what else to say about it?

Speaker 1: 26:25

And, unfortunately, on the flip side of the ballot, you know Vice President Harris, who gave her first solo interview, which was a disaster.

Speaker 2: 26:37

Yeah, I think I just rolled my eyes so hard they almost stayed back there.

Speaker 1: 26:43

I just can't even that was exactly what everybody anticipated it would be. A lot of it was regurgitation from the debate, which proves that she had things memorized.

Speaker 2: 26:54

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 26:55

We heard about her living and growing up in the middle class neighborhood. Again, yes, which by the way, check out my latest blog, because she didn't grow up middle class.

Speaker 2: 27:03

I didn't think she did. No, no, I didn't think so.

Speaker 1: 27:07

It's all BS, but she, she regurgitated that same crap you know and, interestingly enough, her first solo interview she gave to a local and not even one of the big ones, a local Philadelphia station. Right, that's who she chose to do it with.

Speaker 2: 27:24

Yeah. What is the reasoning behind that, you think?

Speaker 1: 27:35

Oh, I think it was a toe toe dip in the water, uh, safe, a safe dump, somewhat. Nothing safe. I mean, everything that's true in the media is in the media, um, but the, the immediate audience was minimal, um, and you know it's a, it was a local station versus a national, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, so blah. So I think the intent was to try and keep it small, keep the reaction small and, truthfully, when you go to a small station like that, the interviewer can be controlled a lot easier than somebody at a big station, right? So I think that's what it was, but I really think it was supposed to be a low threat toss her a bunch of softballs kind of thing, and she, she, you know she's terrible.

Speaker 2: 28:11

We all knew this. Yeah, here's one of her really deep, brilliant insights that she shared.

Speaker 3: 28:17

You know I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who were very proud of their lawn. You know, and and I was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity and that we, as Americans, have a beautiful character. You know, we have ambitions and aspirations and dreams, but not everyone necessarily has access to the resources that can help them fuel those dreams and ambition.

Speaker 2: 28:48

Wow, that was so deep. Let me take a moment and absorb.

Speaker 1: 28:54

Yeah, I just figured something out in that clip five times but I just realized what she's trying to do. You ever meet those people who use vocabulary and they try to sound smart and they use it wrong or they mispronounce it or you know just as very out of you know, out of sorts for the entire context of the conversation. She's not doing that, but what she is trying to do in that particular clip is she's trying to sound statesman-like. She's trying, she's rehearsing her, you know, ability to communicate with other high level world leaders in a statesman like manner and I know that sounds sexist because I said statesman, but whatever, know and her, you know we as Americans and you know I and it and it's as bad as and listen, I love president Bush first. Actually I like both of them, but president Bush the first. Go around. You know the house in point of light, you know.

Speaker 1: 29:56

I think back to Dana Carvey, but that's you know. He was trying very much to be a Statesman, which he was not necessarily great at.

Speaker 2: 30:12

That's what she's trying to do. She's trying to rehearse that, you know. Whatever, it is accent number 11 that she can pull out of her handbag. I mean, how many more can?

Speaker 1: 30:15

this woman manage. It's so crazy. Yeah, the quality of the questions, you know. Her answers were awful. Again, nobody cares about the neighborhood you grew up in, Shut up.

Speaker 2: 30:24

Yeah, and I'm sure that the question I don't even remember what the question was, but I'm sure the question you know the answer was not in any way related to the question.

Speaker 1: 30:31

Very, much softball. She's not taking on the big things, right, she's not even. She's not even discussing the big things. No, you know, I want to know, right.

Speaker 2: 30:42

And we're going to change topics again.

Speaker 1: 30:43

We're rapid fire, but I want to know where she's at on what happened today in the Middle East.

Speaker 2: 30:47

Yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1: 30:49

I want a response because it's immediate and I want her response now because, as president, she is going to have to give a response right now. Yeah, so I want to know what it is. This happened today. For you know, for all of you that are following along, again, we're recording on Tuesday. For all of you that are following along, again we're recording on tuesday. But you know, in across different portions of the middle east, um a, a number of um pagers, old school beepers, old school simultaneously detonated um killing. I don't even know what the number is right now. It's a.

Speaker 2: 31:22

Yeah it was a lot, so it was a mixed number. They didn't separate the number into what I don't even know if they know yet, but it was like 2,700 dead and or injured, so it's a combination. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot.

Speaker 1: 31:36

Right. So now they got a case a shipment of pagers.

Speaker 2: 31:42

right, I mean, this is like this, is that was kind of the story Like that. This, I mean this is like this, is that was kind of the story, like that. This was all from one shipment and they were passed out.

Speaker 1: 31:50

It's not an accident.

Speaker 2: 31:51

No, oh gosh no.

Speaker 1: 31:53

Yeah, so you know, mossad is the CIA, right, that's? You know, that's Israel's version of the CIA. So, of course, people, because this is Hezbollah, it was targeting Hezbollah, specifically members of Hezbollah. So everybody immediately turned and pointed fingers at the Mossad and the Israeli government. And the Israeli government did a no comment, which they go like this they're like I don't know.

Speaker 1: 32:18

We will not be commenting on this at this time. I think is what they said, which is you know, you may as well say you're guilty, Right, but so this is like old school spy stuff, right? This is, this is, like you know, the box of cigars to Castro, kind of. So, like you said, you know, you have to imagine somewhere along the way, and I and we don't know what the timeline on this is like, these things could have been shipped out months ago, right For distribution. Months ago, right For distribution. But pagers all across the Middle East, various locations, all went off, exploded simultaneously. Today, that's not an accident.

Speaker 1: 32:58

Lots of different videos, Right, they're all over the place. And again, the numbers are staggering. Okay, Now people ask I did like immediately, I was like pagers who the hell uses a pager anymore? And then and then I thought backwards to my own, my own experiences in the Middle East. Listen, we've all seen it in the movies, I experienced it in real life.

Speaker 1: 33:16

You can track a cell phone, Okay, Because it's transmitting right. Cell phones transmit all the time, right, the location on your cell phone is transmitting right, it's bouncing off of cell phone towers and that's how it can be tracked. Pagers are not tracked, which is why bad guys in the Middle East use them. They can get a page that says whatever it is and go to it's not a phone booth, but a phone bank. They have them all over the place over there and then they make their phone call from there and they don't make it from the cell phone that they're holding in their hand. That can be tracked. So that's why they're using pagers.

Speaker 1: 33:56

Bad guys use pagers just like drug dealers used to use although not for the same reason, but simultaneously detonated today, killing, injuring thousands and thousands of people. Now some people look at that and they go well, that was a pretty slick operation, you know, pretty interesting that they got them into the right hands. But but, and and I disagree with this wholeheartedly there is no target discrimination when you do something like this. There was, there is already a report of kids being involved, kids being killed in the midst of this. So you don't know who has that pager in their pocket, yeah, Right.

Speaker 1: 34:27

And the bad guy from Hezbollah comes home and he gives you know, his young child a pager so he can keep track of him, Doesn't realize that it's wired Right, Gives it to a child. Or you know, somebody's got this pager in their park in their pocket and they're in a crowded marketplace and it goes off. Right Now you've got collateral damage, You've got fratricide, You've got you know friendly, you know innocent people being wounded or killed because of this thing. As very James Bond as this is, I think it's. It's horrific. And if the Israeli government is responsible, which I'm sure they are, this is one that is not going to gain them any points. No, Right, yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:06

I mean, I can't deny my immediate initial response was like oh, and you know, then, as you, as you expanded the window there of of things that well did happen and certainly could happen with something like that, yeah, that's, that's pretty reckless, and and not not a good look, certainly not. And tragic, you know, and not uh, not a good look, Certainly now, and tragic, you know not. Yet I'm using very, uh, minimalizing words. I mean, that's horrendous, that you know. Children lost their lives and innocent people, uh, were injured or killed. Even so, yeah, it's, you know, I don't know what to even make of that. It feels like such a strange choice, like almost, almost petty, instead of, you know, targeted and calculated and all those things, like it's kind of a weird choice.

Speaker 1: 35:53

Yeah, again, I think they were counting on only bad guys use pagers. Yeah, I think they were banking on that, but I you know they missed. It was bad call. Um and and again, as much scrutiny as they are under globally. This was a really, really bad call, and I'm sure that some faction or arm of the Mossad was involved with this. That's where things like this come from. So the question is when was this initiated? Who authorized it? I would assume something like this has got to go pretty high, right, because there is risk involved with this. But I think it was a bad strategic decision. I think it was a bad look for them. That is just going to bring more and more scrutiny against Israel. That is just going to bring more and more scrutiny against Israel. I think it was a horrible, horrible decision operationally, let alone that. Just the tragic nature of what came out of it. Right right.

Speaker 2: 36:54

Yeah, the whole thing is you know, I don't know. You know? Part of me almost says I don't know. Was that like a test run of something, just to see if this would work? You know what? Can they use this in a different way? I mean, I'm the last person that would have any idea.

Speaker 1: 37:10

Yeah, I, I, it's pretty low end technology. I mean, we saw, you know, all my time running through Afghanistan and Iraq. One of the most common initiating devices for IEDs was cell phones. Really, right, and you see it in a movie. So cell phone, you know, is attached to the device itself, to the bomb itself, and they call the cell phone and, you know, through a number of ways, truthfully, the little ball in there that vibrates in your phone, right, that would be, you know, part of the initiation process for the explosive. It could be a lot of things. So the phones, phones are, you know, are part of this and they have been for a long time. They, they would use rudimentary stuff like washing machine timers for rockets, like they would set up rockets to fire and they would use a washing machine timer to set them off, right, so this is not high end technology at all. Um, you know, I, I'm, but I I'm curious as to what, the why, the specific how. Like you know, patriot is only that big.

Speaker 2: 38:09

Yeah, they're small.

Speaker 1: 38:10

I remember how much explosive did you put in that thing?

Speaker 2: 38:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 38:12

You know, um, and so, yeah, it's, uh, it's not a technological stretch, uh, by any shape, I don't think, but it is. You know. Uh, I just think it was a horrible idea. Yeah, yeah, very tragic. Shame on Israel, shame on whoever was responsible and whoever approved it Truthfully.

Speaker 2: 38:30

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 38:31

Really bad.

Speaker 2: 38:32

Yeah, that was a bad call. Bad, bad series of decisions there. And you know, I mean I certainly hope that it wasn't them, but who else? Who else would it be?

Speaker 1: 38:41

Who else would?

Speaker 2: 38:42

it be Right.

Speaker 1: 38:43

Yeah, there's, there's, no, there's no rival gang.

Speaker 2: 38:47

No, right, yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 38:49

This is that's not what this is. Yeah, it has to be the Israelis. If it's not, I would be. It would be shocking beyond belief. But you know, and you know, unfortunately too is that there's people out there that are supporting them, putting their necks on the line.

Speaker 2: 39:05

This young man, right, this kid, yes, right, yeah, this is another wild story you know, not to that degree, but certainly just a head shaker.

Speaker 1: 39:12

Yeah, but it makes this kid's life harder, right? So you've got this young man and you know he's a disabled veteran who was going to law school at Rutgers and was, you know, kind of taken aback by the amount of anti-Semitism that was at the school, publicly displayed all over the place. And so he started to, in a very tit for tat manner wherever there was something anti-Semitic, anti-zionist, anti-israel posted, he was posting anti-Hamas, anti-palestine stuff literally right next to it, literally.

Speaker 2: 39:46

He was setting up, yeah, Hamas anti-Palestine stuff literally right next to it, Right Literally. He was setting up, yeah, Even when they were out doing their protests, he set up a table and all the things and right next to him all his papers and pamphlets and posters, right beside him and and yeah, which you know. That's pretty, pretty bad-ass of him because he would buy himself. It's not like he had a whole crew of people with him.

Speaker 1: 40:05

So and so. So he did and he didn't escalate, right. So again, it was very match one for one. He didn't he didn't, you know, blow it out any further than what the other side was doing, and he was very meticulous about it. Again, he's a law school student, right. So he knew, he knew what he was doing. Um, in the sense of, like, I know, if I escalate, I'm asking for more trouble. So he got reported, his things got torn down, you know. His name got moved through the disciplinary system all the way up to, I think, the president or somebody.

Speaker 1: 40:38

We went high up, pretty high up in the university, you know, he got told to stand down, he got told to back off, he got told this, he got told that, and his question continued to be well, what about them? Like, why me, why not them, why is theirs? Mine was literally in the same place, you know, and he got cited a whole bunch of policies from the university. He got cited a whole bunch of stuff and his question remained but what about them? Right, the anti-Israel, anti-zionist, you know, anti-semitic, all that stuff was left alone. Nobody touched it. They weren't bothered, they weren't. None of their stuff was torn down.

Speaker 2: 41:14

Yeah, that is important. That is important to know. He didn't go around tearing down anybody else's stuff. He, like you, said it was literally different. You have up a poster saying what you're saying. I'm going to put up a poster saying what I'm going to say, and I think one of the things that they said to him was that it was inflammatory or it was inciting violence or something. You know any something along those lines.

Speaker 1: 41:40

And it wasn't.

Speaker 2: 41:41

It was bold. Yeah, yeah, he called them savages and savages. Yeah, yep Pointed out that they were rapists, you know all of these things, but that's not inciting violence. You know, is it uncomfortable to read? Sure, that's not inciting violence you know, and it's.

Speaker 2: 41:58

It falls under the free speech because he's not threatening anybody. There's no threat, you know, stating an opinion, just like they're stating an opinion, which is what he said. You know he did a, you know, you know not a lengthy, but he did a, did an interview and, um, you know, talked about it. Of course, he was arrested, they took him away in handcuffs and um, all that stuff. They ended up, I think, all the charges got dropped.

Speaker 1: 42:15

I believe yes, but his record was not expunged, so and they did let him graduate, which is good, um, so he graduated from law school at rut. He has not yet taken the bar because of all this stuff going on. He said it. He said, listen, I can't, I can't focus, I can't focus enough to study, I can't focus enough to take the test. I haven't taken it yet.

Speaker 1: 42:36

But he is also very concerned because his record was not expunged, um, and it is still there. So, as a potential lawyer, so as a potential lawyer, once he passes the bar, he has to disclose everything in his record, right? So his concern is even getting a job after he passes the bar. And oh, by the way, even if he passes the test, the state may not allow him to be a lawyer because of his criminal record. So there's that as well. So, arresting him and then dropping the charges Rutgers knew what they were doing. Somebody that probably the head of the law department was like hey, you really want to stick it to this kid here you go, we can let him graduate, that's easy, but right, I never work again.

Speaker 2: 43:31

Yeah, damage his options right now.

Speaker 1: 43:32

I'm sure he'll find a reputable law firm somewhere that's on the conservative side. That will happily, you know sure, give him a job. Yeah, um, just based on his principles, you know right but he'll get it in spite of all of this. You know what I mean, so that will it'll be more challenging and but he's still going to pass the bar in whatever state he decides to work in. He's got to, he's got to go do that.

Speaker 2: 43:53

So but again, you know and to bring it back to you know what you're saying is is you know, this is, this is the world that we're living in right now, that these people there is a certain group of people who are getting away with saying and doing horrible things, awful things, breaking the law, with no accountability, no reprimand, even nothing more or less a pat on the back for doing it, and then you have another group of people who are doing the exact same thing and the hammer is getting dropped down on them. I mean, this is you know, this is our college campuses right now. It's a sad, scary thing.

Speaker 1: 44:34

Yeah, and you know, unfortunately, on top of all the you know from the last story, as bad as that was, now it makes you know, as Israel does what they just did, it makes things tougher for people like this. Right, this young man is trying to support Israel. He understands the effects of October 7th, you know. He understands that the two-state solution doesn't work. He understands all that. But when Israel does things like what they did with the Patriot bombs, right and innocent people get killed and injured, it makes it very, very hard to defend yourself when, or and defend Israel when, you have a conscience. Now, the flip side is all these people have been defending Hamas for the last, you know, almost year. They have no conscience.

Speaker 2: 45:17

No, none whatsoever. Not when you see video and images and you know firsthand accounts of the absolute atrocities that occurred and they're justifying it, applauding it. Even that is a sickness that deserves the wrath of yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:35

Yeah, so this young man kind of got stuck you know, he kind of you know he's now he's left, you know, trying to defend Israel and maybe he won't. You know what I mean? That's the other thing too. He yeah, he may stop supporting me after something like this you never know, but it's it's. You know the Israel thing's a bad look. And then this kid, you know going through what he's going through. It's just, it's bad all the way around, you know.

Speaker 2: 45:56

Well, I hope for I hope for his sake his story, you know, gets picked up by by more audiences, you know, not just ours. We're certainly doing our part to kind of give him an attaboy here and let him know he's got some support out there and people applauding him for his courage in a situation like that, because these are violent, aggressive, nasty people who are certainly not above throwing punches and tearing down things and wrecking and intimidating and you know hostile behavior that we see over and over again from that side. So you know it does actually take quite a bit of courage and bravery to um to stand up to that and stand up for what you believe in. So, against those types of odds, you know, I mean, he was literally outnumbered even by the, the you know institution that he paid to be at.

Speaker 1: 46:45

Yeah, tens of thousands of dollars, yeah. Thanks guys, you know so what he should do is go, get go, become a lawyer in the state of.

Speaker 2: 46:56

California, and then he can help the common man.

Speaker 1: 46:59

Maybe he can help the common man fight against the overreaching government in the state of California. For those of you don't know, now, this has been tried, by the way, in the state of Illinois. For those of you who don't know, now, this has been tried, by the way, in the state of Illinois, new York and now the Republic of California. They are going to put warning labels, overt displayed, not on the back, not on the back of your oven or your stove, but on the front, where you can't hide them. You know, when you flip down the visor in your car.

Speaker 2: 47:25

Yeah, you got that label on there, yep.

Speaker 1: 47:27

That's what this is going to look like on the front of a stove, because gas is bad for you and it's bad for the environment. That's what this is about. Yep, they're going to force manufacturers Now. They wanted to outlaw them and they're still working to outlaw them.

Speaker 2: 47:51

So this, I guess, is a little bit of a yeah. Well, there was such a such a pushback, such a public outcry, that they kind of got embarrassed by the, by the whole thing. And now they had to like walk it back, Like, oh no, we're not going to. We're not trying to take away your gas stoves, guys. We're just, you know, we're trying to warn you of the dangers.

Speaker 1: 48:01

Yeah, so supposedly if you have asthma it's bad for you. A gas stove is bad for you. Supposedly I don't really not really buying that, but and and and it's supposedly it's bad for the environment, which I don't buy. That either, no, but that's that's what is being thrown out there. So the state of California is requiring, and I think it starts next year, in 2025.

Speaker 2: 48:24

Yeah, January 1st 25.

Speaker 1: 48:29

Yeah, so all of these manufacturers of ovens and stoves are going to have to have a warning label, you know, mounted on on any of the gas appliances I would imagine, clothes dryers, hot water heaters, you know, or water.

Speaker 2: 48:38

Oh yeah, right, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1: 48:38

So Anything that's anything that runs on gas is probably going to have to have a warning sticker, which could mean that bleeds over into the other states. There may be some manufacturers that just go. Well, we're not sure, you know. This is not going to be a California sticker. This is going to be a sticker and it's going to go on everything. So, you know they will continue to work to ban gas stoves and gas appliances. You can count on that happening.

Speaker 2: 49:03

I mean it just gets dumber and dumber every day. I mean this just gets dumber and dumber every day. I mean this is so stupid. I'm like embarrassed that we even have to discuss something so stupid. You know it's right up there with labels to tell you that hot coffee is hot. It's absolute overreach. It's just all of their little and I honestly think what it really is is just another one of their gateways, their. And then that moves into the next thing. Well, you know we. You know, since you agreed you you said it.

Speaker 1: 49:54

Though you said this, they tried to ban them yeah and then they got embarrassed. So then they backed off right, but they made ground they made ground and they're good with that.

Speaker 2: 50:04

That's enough for them. They play the long game how many? Times have we said they play the long game. They always have, and we're the dum-dums God love us. We're the dum-dums that catch on, you know, five steps later, yeah, you know, instead of saying hell, no, absolutely not, oh, I can't.

Speaker 1: 50:27

Wrapping it up with the great state of California and somebody who did, a Republican who did know how to play the long game Right. I have not seen. Am I Racist? It's on my list.

Speaker 2: 50:37

Yeah, it's on there. We'll keep it up there as one to see. Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1: 50:42

Matt Walsh. If you haven't seen his stuff, it's amazing, Right. What is a? If you haven't seen his stuff? It's amazing, right. What is a if you haven't seen that? Stream it, it's fantastic. Am I racist? By the way, is was the number three movie over the weekend, Okay, In 2,500 theaters, Right, and they were trying to ignore it. And the biggest, one of the biggest demographics was 30, 18 to 30.

Speaker 2: 51:09

That's very interesting, right? Yes?

Speaker 1: 51:12

I did go see Reagan and if you haven't seen it, right people, I think it's a great history lesson, if nothing else, right, it's very nostalgic. You know we are of the Reagan. I remember the first election I remember anything about was him kicking Walter Mondale around in 1984 in that election, right, which was brutal. But it was a great history lesson and a, you know, a great walkthrough of his life. And there are things that I did not know about him. I knew that when he was, you know, his acting career was flailing. Um, he was SAG vice president and SAG president. I knew that. I did not know he was an FBI informant.

Speaker 1: 51:59

Um and yep, communist efforts in California, and especially yep, especially in the entertainment industry. There were efforts communists, communists were trying to infiltrate the unions in the entertainment industry. There were efforts, communists were trying to infiltrate the unions in the entertainment industry. And he was an FBI informant. Yeah, I did not know that. But he was a Democrat who turned Republican and was, you know, tried. You know he was the governor. He tried to run for president, lost the Republican nomination to Ford in 76, who eventually lost to Carter. I mean, talk about a kick you lose to Gerald Ford, the bumbling, stumbling idiot who lost to until Joe Biden, the worst president in the United States. Crazy, but it was a great story. Nice and Dennis Quaid was phenomenal.

Speaker 2: 52:47

Yeah, that's what I keep hearing. I'm so excited to see this movie. I am so looking forward to it.

Speaker 1: 52:51

I can't even begin to tell you yeah, but he it showed how he played the long game with the soviets, um, and got what he wanted. He played hardball but he knew, he really knew what he was doing, yeah, and he really wasn't afraid to get up and walk away as a, as a negotiation tool. Um, it really really was a great movie. Performance alone by by quaid was awesome, but but the content of the movie was fantastic so do you happen to know offhand who's the actress that played nancy? Um.

Speaker 2: 53:21

I know her name and I can picture her actually, and I I can't, I'm going to find it.

Speaker 1: 53:27

She really did do a great job, you know, and it showed a great relationship and a love between the two of them, which was awesome.

Speaker 1: 53:33

I love that it is a. It's a great love story between the two of them, but the whole thing was done very, very well and and you know, accurate. You know they knew. They knew they couldn't hide. They knew they couldn't. You know I they knew they couldn't hide, they knew they couldn't. You know. I think the only thing that's really fabricated is the method of storytelling. Is it's a discussion between a retired KGB agent and a new Russian, like a young Russian intelligence agent.

Speaker 2: 53:59

Interesting angle yeah.

Speaker 1: 54:00

The young guy, john Voight, plays the old guy, okay, and so the young guy goes to Voight and says how did this happen back in 1989? How did this happen? And he goes well, it happened a lot before 89, you know. And he goes back and he goes and this guy, this Russian KGB guy, was a profiler and he identified Reagan as a threat to communism, way back when he was in Hollywood as an FBI informant. So he knew Reagan's life story because he studied him and so he was the storytelling vehicle, um to to throw it all out there.

Speaker 1: 54:29

And it was done very, very well. So, um, yeah, and it was, it was great, it really was a great movie. And, you know, it's one of those where you probably should, as an American, just go in there and watch it. Suspend all your crap, your political crap in your life and just go watch. You know, um, you know this, this whole story about, truthfully, the greatest president in my lifetime, um, so it really was good, good movie. You will enjoy it, I guarantee it. I think all of our audience, if they haven't seen it we'll, we'll enjoy it as well.

Speaker 2: 55:00

Well, you know, incentive alone if you're, if you're um interested, but not a big movie goer person I'm not these days, so this is like one of those rare movies that is going to pull me out to go see it. This they really tried to ignore this movie and pan it as much as they could. The mainstream, which we're now calling the state run media, that's all right.

Speaker 2: 55:24

Yes, oh, I like that. Yes, that you know they would would not even acknowledge that they wouldn't advertise it. They suppressed views for the trailers on social media. Those are the accusations. I don't personally know that that is true. I'm just telling you what was said. All the more incentive to go see it and talk about it and share it with people, and all that. I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker 2: 55:48

I I was so fortunate when, uh, uh, my husband and I went to Mar-a-Lago for new year's Eve. Um, the woman who was coordinating everything it's quick story how much time we have. Ah, we're over anyhow, so I'm going to keep going. The heck with it. I'll tell this quick story as fast as I can. The woman who was kind of like coordinating our group and getting us all together and everything. I was very fortunate to sit next to her during we had this women's luncheon, this tea. It was very lovely and elegant and beautiful and we got to talking and she was so gracious, asked me about my background and I tell her my story, and then, of course, I asked her about hers. Well, she was.

Speaker 2: 56:25

She worked for Ronald Reagan. She was not his secretary, but higher up like an assistant. Basically, this poor woman, peggy Grande. I'm doing such a disservice to her role and I apologize, peggy, for not getting this accurate, but she worked very closely with him and with Nancy and knew them very well in the later days of his life. She wrote a wonderful book. I'm blanking out on it because I'm looking at the time, so I'm blanking out but I will. I'll put that in there and it's such a wonderful book and it's just such a lovely personal account from her about her time with Ronald Reagan and it was so wild to be sitting next to her. You know who I've been a Reagan admirer for, you know many, many years, and so it was really cool sitting next to her. So that's another book that I want to recommend to you guys and it will be in the links.

Speaker 1: 57:11

Yeah, Really great movie Again, just as an American, just for a history lesson. If nothing else, you should go see it.

Speaker 2: 57:17

Absolutely All right. Good I'm, I'm listen, I'm going just on Clay's recommendation and I think you should too. Five stars, yes, five stars. What is it? Thumbs up? Who were the guys that did the thumbs?

Speaker 1: 57:27

up Cisco and Ebert. Yeah, that was a thing, Two thumbs up.

Speaker 2: 57:31

That's right. Oh my goodness, guys, thank you so much for hanging out with us again. We love your company. We love seeing you in the comments section. That comment section over on YouTube is always very lively. They're a lively bunch.

Speaker 1: 57:44

Huge, not just participation, but a lot of views. This week too, I think. Last I looked, last week's episode was like 2,300 views.

Speaker 2: 57:53

Wow, yeah, we love you guys.

Speaker 1: 57:57

I think our loyal folks who kind of lost the Facebook thing when your account got hacked, I think maybe they moved over to YouTube, which is awesome.

Speaker 2: 58:02

They must have and they're so wonderful. They're so gracious for finding me. I love you guys. Thank you so so much for for hunting me down, hunting us down. We're we're so grateful. And again, we recorded this on Tuesday. You will be watching it on Thursday. So if there's something that happened on Wednesday and Thursday day and we're not talking about it, you know why Suicide we will talk about it soon. All right, clay, send them off.

Speaker 1: 58:27

All right, everybody track down Elsa Kurt on Facebook the 2.0. That's what you got to find is the 2.0. And, as always from me, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2: 58:36

Take care, guys. Bye, we'll see you next time.