America Without a President: The Fallout

What happens in the White House when the President resigns without warning? Join us on the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak as we unravel the astonishing resignation of President Biden, who stepped down via a letter on X, leaving the nation in confusion and uncertainty. Without endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris or holding a press conference, Biden's abrupt departure has sparked intense debate over the authenticity of the announcement and the future of American leadership. We'll break down the immediate chaos, from the scrutiny of the Secret Service to the alleged medical incident on Air Force One reported by Laura Lomer.

As the dust settles, questions about the state of the current U.S. administration arise, highlighting a glaring lack of coordination and leadership. We'll examine the implications of President Biden's mental and physical health on national and global security, the conspicuous absence of both him and Vice President Harris during critical moments, and the Democratic Party's struggle to find a clear path forward. The conversation will also delve into the potential candidates like Gavin Newsom, J.B. Pritzker, Hillary Clinton, and Michelle Obama, amidst a backdrop of internal party conflict and strategic maneuvering as the convention nears.

Finally, we shift our focus to the broader landscape of political engagement and inclusivity. We'll emphasize the importance of civic duty, urging listeners to stay involved despite the relentless news cycle. The episode also critiques exclusionary practices within political spheres, advocating for a more inclusive approach, illustrated by the example of an OnlyFans model speaking at the RNC. This episode is a call to action for active participation in shaping the political future, underscoring the imperative for clarity and leadership in these unprecedented times.

Chapters

• 0:00 Political Upheaval and Speculation on Leadership
• 7:16 Crisis in Presidential Leadership
• 22:16 Democratic Party Leadership Crisis
• 29:46 Uncharted Presidential Election Uncertainty
• 34:59 Democratic Party Leadership Speculation and Controversy
• 41:16 Democratic Leadership Speculation and Strategy
• 51:11 Political Engagement and Inclusivity

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. Conservative views on world news Brought to you by the Wellness Company. Prepare for the unexpected and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:19

Well, hey everyone, it feels like there's some stuff going on right. I don't know, Clay, what do you think? There's some stuff going on right. I don't know, Clay, what do you think? There's some stuff going on right now.

Speaker 3: 0:27

Two weeks in a row, like last week, it was the assassination and now the whole race is flipped over right, the whole thing flipped on its head and we're all sitting here going what the what?

Speaker 2: 0:42

We're shocked, but we're not shocked. We'll get into all of it right after this. Oh my Well, first and foremost, how are you, my friend? How you been?

Speaker 3: 1:07

I'm good you know it's never a dull moment, right.

Speaker 2: 1:12

No, my head's spinning. How about yours? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:16

And it's just, it's so much to take in because we've got not just the big news of the you know, president Biden dropping out, but there's, I mean, so many things to choose from this week. Folks, we're recording on Monday. There's some conflict in schedule, so we're doing it on Monday but, like you know, the head of the Secret Service testifying today, we're not even going to touch that. That's how much stuff's going on.

Speaker 2: 1:42

Can't even Other than to say I just saw on X that somebody just ripped her to shreds. So that'll be. I'll be looking at that one shortly.

Speaker 3: 1:51

It's been going on all day. All day long she's been getting roasted Oof.

Speaker 2: 1:58

I'm a, I'm a cheater. I I'm waiting for all the highlights. I'm just waiting to the end just to catch all the highlights. I can't. I can't do it to myself. I'm waiting for all the highlights. I'm just waiting to the end just to catch all the highlights. I can't do it to myself, I'm already so. My brain is so full of the things Like I can't even create space for this right now. Oh my gosh. So I mean, you know so, obviously, let's just go ahead and start right with the resignation, the bizarre, surreal, impossible to believe that this is the way that this was done, but just popped off a letter over on X. Hey guys, I'm out. By the way, we did a great job. Everything's perfect, Don't worry about nothing.

Speaker 3: 2:43

We're good by the way, we did a great job. Everything's perfect, don't worry about nothing, we're good. I saw the letter about 10 seconds before you posted it and, I'll be honest, I was very ready to chastise Ms Elsa Kurt for not waiting, as she is apt to do. But I saw it about 10 seconds before you did from another kind of news source, another radio personality guy named Chris Stegall. I've been on his show a couple of times. He's the AM station out of Philly and he posted the letter and I was like I read it no seal on it, no nothing. And I was like this is so suspect, it's not even funny. And then, and then you posted it like very shortly afterwards, and then Fox posted it, and then it just came out and I was like I could actually Fox kind of saved you a little bit because I was going to be like the first report you were on it.

Speaker 3: 3:42

Yes.

Speaker 2: 3:42

The only thing I'll say to my credit.

Speaker 2: 3:44

Yeah, the other thing I'll say to my credit, and it's really not even much to my credit, I saw it like I looked at like multiple big names on there who were sharing it. I'm like, all right, well, there's big big shots are sharing it. I'm doing it, I'm hitting the button and yeah, so few, few, I didn't have to make an apology for that one, but yeah, but seriously, that was like, like you said, no official letterhead, it's, you know. And when I shared it on Twitter, I think my comment was something to the effect of Joe's going to be so mad when he wakes up and reads that he did this, you know, and that is the general concern. I mean, like everybody feels that way.

Speaker 2: 4:28

Everyone says, you know, has been saying this, essentially the same thing, like he didn't write that. He probably didn't even know that it was written. You know, he has no clue. And then, of course, you know, and everything was very rapid fire, but the initial shock waves, if we want to go so far as to call them that, was the letter, of course. And then the most glaring omission from the letter was an endorsement for Kamala Harris. So that was a big whoo. And then that came shortly after.

Speaker 3: 4:59

Well, I think the other glaring omission out of all this is still no press conference. I mean, I got the COVID excuse, I got it. I understand he's in Rojo Beach at the Beach House, but I mean seriously, not even take him to the fake White House set that we all know exists. Right, right, yes, confirmed conference of some kind, something, right, you know.

Speaker 2: 5:37

Yeah, it's very interesting. There's been and I've seen it a few times now there are some again X I'm getting a lot of things from X and the people that I'm following with this type of stuff have been right on the money. Laura Lomer, I think her name is. She has been spot on on everything she has been saying, so she's got some inside track that the rest of us do not have. And she she's the one she called out a couple of weeks ago I think it was that he had a medical incident or a medical emergency on Air Force One which was never confirmed. It was denied and never confirmed that that was the case. She's come back on and said it's absolutely true, I know for a fact, it's true, I'm telling you, and now I'm telling you, that he is in the terminal phase of his illness and that's so and that is the word that she's using. That's the word I've seen bounced around a couple of few times now, times now, and you know I think that is probably very likely the case.

Speaker 2: 6:50

I think you know, I think we're, I think we're at end of days for him, because now we're talking about right now or within the past few hours, netanyahu arrived. He and his wife arrived supposed to be met by someone. Neither Kamala Harris or, of course, president Biden are there to greet him, supposed to have a meeting, a conference with him. They're a no show, like a flat out no show. This is madness, and you know to say that it's rude would be the understatement of the century. This is like appalling and mortifying for the united states that you know so what I mean?

Speaker 3: 7:30

if we're talking terminal, right, that that's, that's an existing and and and increasingly worsening. You know condition. Right, like what? What do they say? Is this a cancer? Is it? I mean? You don't die from dementia, you don't. You know what condition right, like what? What are they saying? Is this a cancer? Is it? I mean you don't die from dementia, you don't. You know what I mean. Like you don't. I mean it's a decrease in in mental capacity, but it's not a terminal type. You know condition. So I wonder what it is. Um, I mean, now you could take it a step further and say maybe it's a brain cancer, of sorts. Sure.

Speaker 2: 8:06

You know right. He has had brain issues in the past. I mean he's had brain surgery. Like I think twice, I think yeah.

Speaker 3: 8:15

So not positive. But for the, for the White House staff to drop the ball like that, you know one, that means obviously he is incapacitated, because in the letter itself it says I'm going to continue to, based on my you know my execute my duties as president of the United States. Blah, blah, blah blah. And they've got, you know, international guests coming and he's still hanging out at the beach and in Delaware. So problem number one, Problem number two, is that the White House staff hasn't grabbed the vice president and put her in front of you know, bibi. So that's a problem. I mean, she is the contingency plan for stuff like that and I understand that there's a lot of things at stake right now as far as running the race and being the new candidate and all of those things. But you know, if you're going to be the president or you're going to try to be the president, this is the time that you step in and grab incidences like this and take charge.

Speaker 2: 9:19

You better act. Presidential, for heck's sake Right. Coincidental, for heck's sake right. Yeah, it's um. I mean, every single part of this is so bizarre. It is such a you know train off the tracks period in time for this party, for this administration. Um, who is running the show right now? Like who's running things? It, it's not Biden. No, it's not.

Speaker 3: 9:45

Kamala, the scary part is it's nobody that's the scary part.

Speaker 3: 9:49

Yes, this you know, I hadn't heard this, but that what you're talking about in that Yahoo, that is an indicator that this is nothing is coordinated right now. There is no one in charge. Yeah, it's not the White House chief of staff, it's nobody, and that is a frightening I know everybody was making comments and talking about the lies, about his mental acuity. Right, we've been lied to. There's no question about it. The vice president is in on it, right, absolutely no question about it. Um, the vice president is in on it, right, absolutely. The first lady is in on it. Um, everybody in the cabinet is in on it and have been for months, right?

Speaker 2: 10:33

if not longer. If not longer right.

Speaker 3: 10:37

They've been lying. They've been lying to all of us, um, and this is, you know, prime example that there's no. Not only were they lying to us, they have no contingency plan. This is outrageous, you know and it's insane.

Speaker 2: 10:57

Like so you're on the inside, fine, fine, let's go with this for a minute. You're not going to tell us what's going on, let's let's just be okay with that for a moment and say but you're not telling us anything, but you've got it right, you've got it all under control, you've got a plan Like you're working stuff out Right, um, nope, no, nope. I don't know the president nor the vice president is there to greet him. Like that alone. I mean, there's so many things, but that alone is the like the pinnacle of everything going off the rails and it is just a free for all right now. And that the support for Kamala is only, you know, superficially there, and I think even that is only because they don't know what else to do. Like who else can they sub in right now?

Speaker 2: 11:50

And I know everybody's going wild, you know, throwing the possibilities out there. Anyone from Michelle Obama to Gavin Newsom to Hillary Clinton, and actually that just reminded me. Some people are. People are on it with the memes. This is one that I actually got a chuckle a chuckle out of, here it is, this is the one.

Speaker 3: 12:08

Yes, yeah, I saw that one, yeah, yeah, well, nancy, nancy Kerrigan action, but you know, like you said, though, you know we're all speculating about the next phase, right, and we'll we're going to talk about that in a little bit, but that's, that's next. Right, let's handle now. Let's handle now, now Right. This is important stuff because, again and this is the topic that keeps coming up what happens at three o'clock in the morning when North Korea goes across the border, right Across the DMZ? What happens at you know zero, five hundred, when, when you know, china decides that they've had enough of this Taiwan crap? You know what I mean? Like, who is in charge right now? The president said it was him in the letter, but clearly this is an indicator that that is not, in fact, true. We're all at risk right now. Everybody is at risk right now.

Speaker 2: 13:02

Yeah, this is massive. I mean you know, everybody is at risk right now. Yeah, this is massive.

Speaker 3: 13:06

I mean you know it's not just us watching the entire world is watching I posted that on social media yesterday is that friends and enemies around the world are watching every single thing that we do right now and and this is a massive indicator that things are effed up Like there is nothing wrapped together right now. So the question is if he's not, if they've been lying to us, which clearly they have right, right.

Speaker 3: 13:38

And he is not capable and now has either been convinced or you know, somebody wrote it for him, um, but either way he's not mentally capable of of running for reelection. We're clearly seeing indications that he's not capable of continuing to be the president. So where are we on the 25th amendment?

Speaker 2: 14:07

Seriously. I mean there's, you know, and there are, I think Mike Johnson, I think he is he's calling that into question, Not not necessarily 25th, but the fact that if you are not mentally capable, physically and mentally capable, of running for another term, then you are clearly not capable of finishing your term. And there's a lot of questions going on right now. There's a lot of question about legalities as far as transferring, as far as this whole process. You have to be figured out by this party, like as of yesterday, like they need to have this squared away. And again, it is incomprehensible to me that, with their knowledge not our knowledge, but their knowledge of this man's mental state and decline, how they have not prepared for this, prepared for all of these possibilities, how are they sitting there, going well, we don't know what to do.

Speaker 3: 15:25

So you're 100 percent right. You're 100 percent right. And that's the scary part is is that people will vote for this leadership. Right, so they've. We've said it. Everybody said the news has been saying they've been lying to us. They know he was in rapid mental decline. They knew that, whether it was before or after the election, his days were numbered. Right. So they have to plan for the contingencies. Right. They have to plan for every contingency possible, before or after, right. That's the common sense piece of it, that's the leadership, that's whatever you want to call it. But that has to happen. They clearly have not done that and you can say because I've heard it, oh well, they Biden. Biden refused to step down, biden refused to screw that that the party itself had to have continued. Maybe not the White House, maybe not the you know the cabinet, although the cabinet should be doing this, white House chief of staff should have been doing this, but the party itself should have had a plan for this and there is clearly everybody standing around doing this Like this is nuts.

Speaker 2: 16:41

Yeah, and there's, you know there's rumors of people jumping ship. You know, just hightailing it out of there, kamala Harris staff seems to be flying out the door quickly because they don't want to be tied to this, they don't want to be tied to any of it. You know, guilty by association and you know it's kind of too late because you know so it's guilty by association and, um, you know it's kind of it's kind of too late because you know we're talking about, like you said, we'll just go with months. We'll just say it's been months that this has been going on. You know, I feel like it's definitely been longer, but the as far as the rapid, you know the beginning of the rapid decline will. So we'll go with months for that.

Speaker 2: 17:16

These people, they're all complicit. They are there before, before it mattered and, um, you know, I, I truly believe that their hope was to just push them through. You know, weekend at Bernie's, this guy, all the way through to the end, get them in and then do the switch you know cause that would have been their easiest thing.

Speaker 2: 17:52

That would have been like the easiest thing to do and, um, you know, I think they just simply hoped that that was going to be the case. And you know his health is, I mean, it is what it is. You can't, you know, you can't turn that back, you can't reverse it, and now they're scrambling, which again is beyond bizarre, and we can go back to the 25th. There. There has to be some big reasons why they're not right. I, you know, and I don't know what they would be, I don't know. There must be some like big ramifications if they, if they do that, that does not benefit them because, let's face it, it's all about what benefits the party and I and I mean that for the Republicans too, because we have plenty of Republicans, you know, over there that are benefiting as well from status quo.

Speaker 3: 18:46

So I don't know I got, if you think about it, tactics wise, like, obviously the Democrats don't, that is a problem they don't want to have to deal with. Leave the 25th alone you know their fingers, just just let go ride it out. You know what I mean and they can focus on the next steps, which are candidacy, the convention, the presidential election itself and really the down ticket. I think they're all very happy that he backed out of this because it helps the down ticket, it helps Congress, congressional candidates and then focus on that. If the 25th and this is why I'm really you force that that consumes the White House, the staff, even the vice president. It consumes very much, like they did to Trump with all the cases. Right, very good point.

Speaker 3: 19:52

That would consume the vice president in testimony. It would consume Democratic leadership, the White House staff, the cabinet, all of it for testimony and all of those things. And oh, by the way, it would make the prep for the convention unbelievably difficult. Yes, so I don't understand why the Republicans last night weren't planning this to walk in this morning and go, you know. 25th Amendment other than the let's deal with the Secret Service first. Right, because that's going on. Right, let's deal with the Secret Service testimony first and then we'll deal, so they they may walk in tomorrow and dump the 25th Amendment on the table Right.

Speaker 2: 20:36

And you know what, and it really may be as simple as that, because hearing you explain the ramifications and the logistics and all of everything that goes on with that, yeah, it seems like kind of a given that they would want to push that. So you know, and again, we'll give our reminder that we like to give you guys, we're recording in the early part of the week so by the time we watch this uh all together, cause we're going to watch it together with you on, uh on Thursday night um, these steps may have already been taken. So bear, bear with us and keep that in mind that as you're watching this, this was prerecorded and we sit in into the comments section with you guys and hang out and, um, you know all of that. So, just so you know, just a reminder. So Thursday could be a whole different ballgame and, as we've seen, like the, the rapid fire changes that have are happening, uh, with within a 24 hour timeframe, you know is or 24 to 48 hours.

Speaker 2: 21:38

And and the people that were saying there were people that were saying on like Friday, thursday as early as Wednesday, even Wednesday, thursday and Friday, that the announcement was going to come most likely on Sunday, and then that kept getting, uh, you know, refuted. Nope, nope, you know, still running, still in the race. I'm good as gold, I've got this pal and Sunday, just as projected. So you know there are people with some good inside tracks there because they called it.

Speaker 3: 22:07

You know they hit it right on the nose, but I think the COVID thing, the COVID announcement, you know, I I again just a gut feeling on social media. I said you know it's surprising, or who would have thought that COVID was both the beginning and the end of the Biden administration? Because it really really was. How ironic, right? So it all seemed bad. I actually thought it was going to be a. I thought it was going to be a fabricated medical issue Like, oh you know, and even potentially as bad as a fatality. I hate to say that, but I really thought it was going to be this whole oh, he's got COVID his lungs or he can't breathe, he can't talk, his health is so bad, we're just going to pull him out, you know kind of thing. And not this, you know random letter on X. I thought it was going to be a medical issue tied to this COVID diagnosis, which I still don't believe, by the way. But yeah, I mean, it happened this weekend, it happened out of the blue, it is very unorganized.

Speaker 3: 23:07

It's very, you know, very, very messy and it has left us very messy. You know, like you said, like we dipped into it already, what's next really?

Speaker 2: 23:22

What is next? And a lot of people, um, kind of assumed maybe that because Joe did endorse Kamala, um that that made her an automatic, like she was automatically going to be the nominee, and that is absolutely 100 percent not the case. It's looking that way she's secured like half of the needed, half of the necessary delegates, or something, I think, and so she's I mean she's, she's prepared, or her camp has been prepared for this in some ways, because they've mobilized very quickly. She raised a considerable sum of money.

Speaker 3: 24:04

Fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2: 24:05

Yes, very considerable sum of money, right, you know. So they, they have been ready, they have been chomping at the bit just for to get that green light. And and she got, and they got it, and they're, they're, they're making the best of it, they're making what they can of it. Um, but boy, oh boy. I. I don't know who else is going to throw their hat in. I don't know if anybody will. You know, the reality is, it's what they have four months to pull together a campaign funds. You already have to be independently wealthy to even get rolling here, not?

Speaker 3: 24:37

not really, though. Four months, I mean, they've got four months. Whoever it is Right, right, good point, yeah, They've got to. You know and this is the discussion about the convention is it's going to be the first open convention in anybody's memory really. So you know, if you had to pick and's not even go into vice president bullpen yet, because the the depth in the democratic party is like this is like kiddie pool, shallow kind of stuff. There's nothing there but presidential candidates. I mean, we've talked, we've been talking for a while about potential names.

Speaker 3: 25:11

Obviously, the vice president is the number one. She gets the 90 plus million dollars that her and President Biden had in their war chest, plus the 50 she picked up yesterday. She's 140 million in. She's got his endorsement. She's getting other endorsements. Nancy Pelosi endorsed her today. She has not yet. There's been a phone call, but she has not yet gotten an endorsement from President Obama, which, in the party, is a big, big deal. Yes, I think he very much, like the last election, if you remember, didn't endorse President Biden until very, very late. Maybe not even at all. But right, so who else? I mean who else is out there? Um, but um, so who else? I mean who else is?

Speaker 2: 26:00

out, there We've been talking about.

Speaker 3: 26:01

You got Newsome, you've got you know they've been talking about Pritzker from Illinois. Um, who else there's? There's about six or seven, but really maybe four legitimate contenders to challenge her, I guess, to make it a somewhat open convention. Right, tenders, free to challenge her, I guess, to make it a somewhat open convention. And again, that's without getting into the vice president pool.

Speaker 3: 26:27

So here's the thing, though and again this is a criticism of the Democratic Party and the people who continue to follow this crap leadership. They had no plan, right, they knew that, in some form or fashion, this was going to come right before or right after the election, and they have no plan to replace President Biden. Right, right, but right now, what it looks like is they're changing the rules for the convention. Yeah, all of the all of the primary votes are gone. Everyone's thrown out the window, doesn't matter? Doesn't matter what the people want, doesn't matter what the? You know the popular vote, you know democracy, you know the way that's supposed to work. That's all gone, and what you've got are the elites in the democratic party who are going to determine and provide guidance on who the candidate's going to be. That's it.

Speaker 2: 27:20

Oh, and you know what? And I actually think that that is exactly what Mike Johnson Speaker Mike Johnson is balking at that. He's making some waves about. He's like hang on, hang on. This is not how it's done, this is not how we do this. So I think that's something that we have to look forward to. I think he's maybe going to I don't you know what would, what would you do File some motions to stop them from doing this? I don't really know, like what's the end game here? So, if you stop them from doing this, what does that mean? Does that mean that Joe has to stay on the ticket, or it has to be Kamala, or like? I don't know what that means to you know, to stop their process. I don't know. This is uncharted territory. It really is Right yeah.

Speaker 3: 28:05

And the politics of it are. I think the party writes their own rules. So while the House, you know, has got some input on federal election guidelines, right, rules are like you know, donation money is regulated, there's a lot of pieces and parts of this that are, you know, federally regulated. Mail-in votes, right, the machine like there's a bunch of stuff that the federal government is involved in. Don't think the primaries are part of it. I think that those rules are written by the party in the lead up to their convention to name their candidate. The federal government can't regulate or dictate that, nor should they. I don't think that's a thing, agreed, but the Speaker of the House is probably overstepping. But your point of this is uncharted territory means all of these constitutional scholars are coming out of the frigging woodwork, because there's a lot of possibilities being thrown around that we have never considered or even had to consider before.

Speaker 2: 29:09

Wild, absolutely wild times. I mean what. You know. I'm not by any means thrilled or pleased to be living this part of history. I think it's an embarrassing black spot on our American history. It's, it's, it's. Everything about what's been happening is such a disgrace to this country and to us. Us, I mean really to us, to the people who love this country and and believe in the values and believe in the order of things and and the rules of things. And you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 29:48

I mean I guess maybe this is what has to happen because things have gone. You know, our, our government has gone so far again off the rails of what it was designed to be, and you know, maybe this is what it takes to to rein it all back in and for the people to kind of take back some of that, some of that power and that say in what's going on. And you know, we need to pretty much stand up and say hang on, this isn't what we signed on for, this isn't what we signed you on for. And you know, I mean I guess I would hope that that means, you know, the translation of that is my hope would be that more people on the local levels will get involved and you'll get some better people to choose from.

Speaker 2: 30:35

You know, because that's where it all starts and everybody says, well, and I've said it too like I can't get involved in all that craziness. That's like too big, that machine is too huge and it's gross and it's greasy and dirty and I don't like it and I don't want any part of it. But you know where you start is you start small, you know. So anybody watching this or any watching any of the, the political show that's been going on, and is disgusted by it, you know. I hope that it's a catalyst for them to get involved. You know, because, uh, we need some major changes. It's not going to happen right now.

Speaker 3: 31:08

It's going to be a long time, but you have to start somewhere, right yeah, and and so it's interesting too, because this is such uncharted territory Like, as an example, the constitutional scholars that I keep talking about there's, there's, and this is frightening there's there are people determining the legality right now of President Obama being on the ticket as a vice presidential candidate, because, you know it, it's never been dealt with before. So if he goes in as the vice presidential candidate and they get elected as a ticket and then she turns around and steps aside, you know he gets three years and 360 days as the president again, which you know, we all know he's kind of been shadow governing, you know.

Speaker 2: 31:58

I was going to say not counting the three plus that he's been in now, but yeah, but.

Speaker 3: 32:03

But so people don't even know what the legality of that is at this point. So that's under discussion. Now, when you start talking about other candidates for president and then other candidates for vice president, so is it? You know vice president Harris running against you know Newsom, whitmer, buttigieg, all the rest of these folks, and then if they don't get, you know, if she wins and becomes the candidate, does she pick one of them to be the vice president? Is she going into a different pool? Are they all going to pick a ticket, right?

Speaker 3: 32:46

So if she is the number one candidate and she goes, well, I want Shapiro out of Pennsylvania, I want him as my vice presidential candidate. But Newsom goes, well, I'm running. But I want that guy's my, you know, and then Shapiro's in the back going all right, well, I guess I'm going to be vice president for one of these two. It just all of this stuff is out the, out the window, because we've never been here before. You know it's so, it's so unbelievable. Uncharted is like that. It's such an understatement, I know that sounds crazy.

Speaker 2: 33:27

But that's exactly. It's overwhelming in in how much unknown there is in this election, yeah, and and everything is moving at such a rapid pace simply because it has to pass. Like the clock is ticking. Like the clock is ticking. That's very scary because some very significant mistakes on purpose, by accident mistakes can happen here. And what's the recourse?

Speaker 3: 33:47

Yeah, no, it's absolutely and again. So, even if you go back to the last presidential election, right, and you know people can argue, continue to argue about what got stolen, what got cheated, whatever, regardless of every all of that, the election was incredibly close. Ok, it was close enough that you know. Like people are speculating, hundreds, you know, potentially just a few thousand votes turned the entire election over. So it was close. So Literally half of America right, call it 50.1 percent of America is Up in upheaval as to who their candidate is going to be right, yeah, they still don't know who their party is backing, who they should back, who their vice president is going to be.

Speaker 3: 34:40

Do they even like that person, right? I mean, it's all in this stage of the game, it's July, it's late July and they're still trying to figure this shit out. It's insane.

Speaker 2: 34:53

It is absolutely insane. And just to like add more insanity to it Now, you mentioned this. I believe last week you said something about RFK Jr jumping in and saying I'll take the job. Rfk Jr jumping in and saying I'll take the job.

Speaker 1: 35:10

Well, as always, clay is like got these prophetic visions, and this is the video I came across yesterday. Well, the Democrat Party is scrambling around to find a candidate who can beat Donald Trump. They can stop looking. I'm the only one who can beat him. If they're interested, my telephone number is on the internet, unfortunately.

Speaker 2: 35:35

Props to Clay. Props to Clay for calling that.

Speaker 3: 35:38

Listen, he's a Kennedy. He started to run as a Democrat. They told him to step aside and get out of the way and he said screw you guys. And he came in as an independent. There was actually. He said screw you guys, and he, you know, he came in as an independent. There was actually. What's his name?

Speaker 2: 35:52

Mansion yesterday or this morning.

Speaker 3: 35:53

Actually, it was a very quick turn. I think it was last night into this morning. Last night he was like, well, hell, maybe I'll just. You know, because he changed, he walked away from the Democrats and became an independent and he said that maybe I'll just re-register as a Democrat and I'll run for president. And then he quickly, you know, changed gears and said no, I'm not going to do that. And then he endorsed Kamala Harris, vice president Harris. So there are those things out there. You know, um, hillary Clinton's been brought up, um, as potential again. Um, there's, you know, michelle Obama's name keeps coming up. In fact, I heard the speculation of the reason you haven't heard an endorsement from President Obama is because they are potentially prepping her to run.

Speaker 2: 36:35

I was part of that speculation. I speculated on that as well. I definitely, when I saw that that he declined to endorse her, I was like oh geez, because I think, I honestly think that as far as the Democrat, the I don't want to say the uneducated Democrats, the just the moderate ones, the ones that don't pay that much attention, they only pay attention to the service they would love her. They would love her because they don't care that she's never, you know, ran for office before. Like they don't care about any of that. They like the optics, you know. But speaking of optics, you're going to put Michelle Obama against Kamala Harris. Hmm, that's a little divisive. That's problematic for people. I don't think they can do that. It's the same with Hillary.

Speaker 3: 37:30

It's the safest bet is Obama versus Kamala Harris, because you're replacing, you know, a black woman with a black woman. It's the safest spell game, bait and switch you've ever seen. Right, sure, but you know there is the. You know there is the speculation about president Obama being a vice presidential candidate. Therefore, he's not going to endorse anybody. So that's, you know, that's all out there. But you know the kicker in all this, and you know, take it for what it's worth is it's in Chicago, which is where the Obamas are from, right, so take that one to throw that in the mix. Um, you know, it's all. All of that of that is just sketchy, as all get out, it just is.

Speaker 2: 38:14

Very sketchy.

Speaker 3: 38:25

Yeah, and again they're writing the rules as they go. People cannot, they can't, shortchange that when they go to decide who they want to vote for in the presidential election, not just in the primaries or at the convention, when the delegates get decided at the very last minute. But they have to remember that this is one of those. Your party just decided without you who they want you to support, whether they just did and if I was a Democrat, I would be incredibly insulted. I would feel bad, you know, but but I would be incredibly insulted that they did this, you know, in such a shady way, because that's what this all looks like is. It's very, very shady.

Speaker 2: 39:05

Yeah, I mean, how can it not look shady? And how can anybody who's paying even the slightest bit of attention not think that that's shady? And you know the fact that again we go back to the absolute fact that they have been hiding and denying Joe Biden's mental and physical states. They have been pretending and lying to the world and telling everybody that he's fine, he's strong, he's great, all of the things and, by the way, including Kamala Harris, more than anyone else, she's going to have a lot is going to be very, very tense moments in those debates and very, very hostile, because that is the number one question and, as a matter of fact, the Trump campaign. Already I don't know if it was the Trump campaign, but maybe Trump supporters already put out this video.

Speaker 1: 40:02

Kamala was in on it. She covered up Joe's obvious mental decline. Our president is in good shape, in good health, tireless, vibrant, and I have no doubt about the strength of the work that we have done. But Kamala knew Joe couldn't do the job, so she did it. Look what she got done A border invasion, runaway inflation, the American dream dead. They created this mess. They know Kamala owns this failed record. Make America Great Again. Inc is responsible for the content of this advertising.

Speaker 2: 40:32

Yeah. So I mean, this is what she's going to get hammered with nonstop and you know how is she going to answer that? I mean, she's going to answer it. We already know. She's going to answer it in a word salad. She's not going to give any real concrete answer or explanation and anything that she could try and say, like what's she?

Speaker 1: 40:56

going to say Well, I didn't know they lied to me too.

Speaker 2: 40:57

You were there. I'm going to have to bleep that out, darn it, I couldn't help myself.

Speaker 3: 41:15

No, you're right, though, so I'm guessing I'm. I'm wondering, though, is how much of that debate topic comes out amongst and between the Democrats prior to or as part of the convention, because that discussion, you know, whoever it is, pick one of the other candidates. If they bring that up to go after Vice President Harris, they're going to destroy Joe Biden's legacy and the party leadership in the mix, right? There's no innocent bystander in that. If that topic comes up, then Nancy Pelosi is held responsible, vice President Harris is held responsible, schumer's responsible, the entire cabinet, all the secretaries they're all responsible. So whoever that is that brings that up if it's, you know, just say it's Gavin Newsom. If he does that to go after Kamala, he is slamming his own party, the leadership of his own party, and truthfully screwing himself in the process, right, yeah.

Speaker 2: 42:06

Because you can't. Yeah, that's pretty much. If you go there, yeah, if they go there, it's scorched earth, right.

Speaker 3: 42:11

Yep, 100%. And speaking of scorched earth, I think that's why Vice President Harris is getting so many endorsements. Everybody knows she's an idiot, right? She's a horrible candidate. She's probably the least electable candidate the Democrats have put up in a long time. But if they don't endorse her? She knows everything, she's in on all the secrets she can. And oh, by the way, she has such a horrible personality personality she would go scorched earth, or they're at least afraid that she would go scorched earth and let every cat out of the bag and all the skeletons out of the closet on her way out the door.

Speaker 2: 42:56

Yes, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. That's the only explanation. I mean, they must have weighed every option, every alternative, every possibility. And she just sat in the corner and said, right, that horrendous laugh, like you guys really think you're going to get away from me, like knowing what I know. Do you want I should do it for cause I know somebody in that? That comment section is really like you'd say it, like Kamala, here it goes, listen, do you really think that you can get away from me there? It is All right, we got it out of the way, yeah.

Speaker 3: 43:42

I mean I hurt my own ears Clay, I hurt my own ears.

Speaker 3: 43:47

But it's a true statement. Yeah, I mean, it really is. It's frightening that that's the way politics works, but I guarantee you there's probably some people calling the Clintons and putting together some Epstein-like plans to resolve this issue if it becomes out of control. But it's dicey to say the least, right To not endorse her. The cleanest way they can do this is the open convention with quiet instructions to delegates on who to endorse and you know and pledge themselves to, so that they can get her potentially somebody else you know into the candidacy.

Speaker 2: 44:34

So now would there I'm sorry, would there be time, like so I mean, this is so, again the uncharted territories. So let's say, other candidates throw their hats in and I mean, is there time for them to have a debate Like how would that even work?

Speaker 3: 44:55

It starts now, right, the convention, although is in Chicago and it's, you know, four weeks from now, the convention starts now. It actually started yesterday afternoon, right? So this is one month of free press, free media coverage for any and every Democratic candidate. So, whoever throws their hat in the ring at this point, everything that they say, and it's all going to be covered by the media. They're not going to have to. That's why the fundraising and the war chest stuff is probably less important is because for the next four weeks, this is all the news is going to cover.

Speaker 3: 45:37

Yeah that's it. So anybody who throws, you know who, jumps in and says I want to run for president, they're going to get coverage and they're going to get free by every major. So the convention is now the debates. Although, you know, could they put together a formal debate between now and then? Yes, would it be difficult, probably. Could any major networks pull it off? Sure, they could. You know, it's. That's not the issue, because oh, by the way, the ones between Biden and Trump are already off right, right, that's not the issue, because oh, by the way, the ones between Biden and Trump are already off right, right, they set to host one, although too late, but they were supposed to do one in September. Would that be done? Sure, is it going to be done informally over the next four weeks, every single day, it will be about them debating about being president.

Speaker 2: 46:27

Right, it would be about them debating about being president Right, and you know how crazy that we are very likely not definitely, but very likely going to get robbed of that, of seeing what each candidate you know, having that moment where you see them.

Speaker 3: 46:51

And granted.

Speaker 2: 46:52

I mean the debates, all of the debates have devolved into just absurdity and name calling and no real substance whatsoever, except the last one, Well, yeah true, good point. Yes, right, yeah Right.

Speaker 3: 46:57

But, yes, the big party ones. You and I talked about it with the Republicans. We hated them. They were awful. It was terrible, horrible to watch. Zero productivity out of it. You got nothing whatsoever, and that's exactly what it would turn into if they ran it with the Democrats, unless they did the microphone muting kind of operation. Oh, by the way, before I forget, did you hear there's potential? There was discussion to pull some rhinos over. Mitt Romney's name has come up to potentially be a presidential or vice presidential candidate under the Democrat ticket Right.

Speaker 2: 47:33

Well, that would prove a lot of people Right.

Speaker 3: 47:35

You know, right? Yep, so there's. There's that too. But so, again, everybody is exploring every option possible, because the focus is what it's beat Trump, and the reality is none of this matters, none of it. You're right, it's going to have to be. I honestly believe this. You know as much as RFK Jr says he's the only person that can beat Trump. He can't beat Trump. Vice President Harris can't beat Trump. The only person I honestly believe who has a shot in hell at beating President Trump is Michelle Obama. I hate to say that she's totally unqualified. She's less qualified, truthfully, than Hillary was in 2008,. Right, when she ran against Obama, she at least had been a senator. Right, obama had been a senator for even less time than she had. Michelle Obama has zero qualifications.

Speaker 2: 48:32

Zero. They just simply like her. They just simply like her and they love Barack Obama. They love him. They think you know he's their messiah and you know that would be their dream come true. So, yes, and I I completely agree with you. I've said, I've said as much, um in other conversations about people are always asking me, which is so funny to me, um, that people are constantly asking me, like, what do I think is going to happen?

Speaker 2: 48:59

And, um, I, I think that is the only real threat and I would think that anybody from from their camps would also know that. So, you know, unless you can find some legality why she couldn't, and unless they're telling the truth that she's really not interested, that's the wild card that we're really, that's the wild card we should be all watching for and very, very wary of. You know, I get very agitated when I hear the you know, like the red tide type comments like no, no, no, no, no. Do not rest on anything. There is nothing guaranteed here whatsoever. And even the Kamala Harris Trump matchup here, the Kamala Harris-Trump matchup here, don't get comfortable.

Speaker 3: 49:55

Don't get complacent, just don't Bad idea. Ted Cruz said the same thing Sunday night. He was adamant last night about how we can't assume anything, how we can't assume it's a Trump victory. He was talking about the RNC, how it was the best RNC he's ever been to, but he also said there was a feeling of victory already and he said it was the most dangerous thing he could think of was that everybody was just going to assume that. You know that it was going to be.

Speaker 3: 50:23

Now, he was a little bit of that. What he was saying was self-preservation, because he's being his seats being challenged right now. Um, they picked him as like the number one um seat to challenge, to flip it from red to blue, but he's not wrong. Like you can't assume that you know everything is everything and and trump's just going to walk through and win. Now I don't know if you saw it, but there was the interview with president trump, uh, and you know Vice President, his vice presidential candidate, you know JD Vance, and they asked him. You know well, what about running against Vice President Harris? What about? You know? And basically, president Trump is who he is. He's like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who they throw out, we're going to win. You know, and you would expect him to say that.

Speaker 2: 51:07

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 51:11

But everybody else can't make that assumption. That is the most dangerous assumption to be made.

Speaker 2: 51:14

Yeah, yeah, I want to. You're right, I want to hear that from him. I want that conviction and that you know, decisiveness from him, that determination from him. But, yes, for the rest of us, don't rest on it, just don't rest on it. You know I always get so nervous when people are like, eh, I don't need to, you know, I don't need to vote, I don't need to know what's going on because it's just going to. You do you? Do? You know, as we've talked about, I've talked about many, many times my level of faith. I do believe fully that God is in control, but you know, we are his warriors. So you can't just sit back and let the fight happen around you. You have to be in it and, um, you know, I hope people stay in it and um, I, I hope it's done right. You know, I really would like.

Speaker 2: 52:00

We talked about last week about the the kinder gentler, kinder gentler, um approach, and and again. Of course, we don't necessarily mean kinder gentler, but we do mean a more inclusive one. You know, one of the big things from the RNC that had a big divisive reaction was I'm forgetting her name, but she's a like she's an only fans model. She's got the tattoo across her head. It's her name's like Amber Rose tattoo across her head. It's her name's like Amber Rose, I think, is her name, and um, and that was a very, very decisive, divisive um reaction to her presence and speaking there. And there were half the people, um, you know, sad I want to say half, but there were a percentage of people that were like she had no business being up there. Why would they invite her up there? She's an only fans, this that she doesn't represent, da da't represent, and to which my response and the response of many other, I think, more level-headed people, um, said and again we go.

Speaker 2: 52:58

I will say it again what most of you already know I am a Christian and I'm saying this um, stop stop doing things like that. Stop alienating people because they don't fit what you think they should fit. You know the mold that they should fit into. I don't need everybody to look and act and be just like me. I don't need that at all. In fact, I don't want that. Come on, one of me is enough. He's asked my husband You're like one's enough, but don't alienate people who are trying to come in, who have, you know, had a change in perspective and are saying you know what?

Speaker 2: 53:37

Wait a minute, this, this is starting to resonate with me. This is making sense to me. Let me come over and explore this and you're going to say get out, we don't like the way you look, we don't like your past. Like stop, let people come from where they're at, let them be who they are and bring what they bring to the table. It's not our job to change them. It's our job to welcome them and to include them and just be a warmer environment for them to come to. I mean, it's just common sense. So I get so irritated when people do things like that. Like don't, don't use your Christianity as, as you know, something to repel people. It's like so, completely not.

Speaker 3: 54:21

Yeah, yeah, it's the, it's the. You know I'm more Christian than you, right, which is right there. But did you I mean to kind of, you know emphasize your point? Did you listen to her? Did you listen to the things she said? She was amazing. Yeah, right, that's exactly the person that you want to bring in. You know, it was funny to me, you know, watching and watching all of these super old white people, you know, like suburbia and you know, and they're out there and they're jamming a kid rock Right.

Speaker 3: 54:55

You know, and, and there was a lot of people talking about, you know, kid rock and you know, and, and Hulk Hogan, and like all these people, and they're like, we're like only Trump could bring in that kind of crazy mix of folks and really have the place just be like an awesome party, which it was. But again he got his spike. He got a great media spike out of it. He got a great donation spike out of it. Everything is good.

Speaker 3: 55:27

That ended on Thursday, the resignation on Sunday and it's all flipped on its ear Right. So, and he's not, truthfully, going to get a lot of coverage over the next four weeks, he's just not. So he's got to. You know he's got to continue to campaign. He's got to continue to generate media presence, because it's not going to come organically, because there's too much crap going on in the on the Dem side to that. That he's got to keep into the media and make sure people it's not like they're going to forget him. But you know it's very easy to get tied up in the soap opera, the blue soap opera that's going to go on over the next four weeks.

Speaker 2: 56:05

Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. Everybody stay focused, stay focused. Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, everybody, stay focused, stay focused. Oh, my goodness. Well, you know the second week in a row where we could only cover, you know, the umbrella of one topic and, of course, all of the bits and pieces that are part of it. But you know, we're okay if y'all meaning the news cycle, if y'all want to take a chill. It's not going to happen. We it's not going to happen. We know it's not going to happen. This is just going to get crazier and crazier. I feel like we're at like the halfway to three-quarter way up the roller coaster and you know we're just getting ready for right. That sound. It makes my heart start to race just thinking about that sound. So that's where we're at right now tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick on it, and we can't suffer alone, right, we got to do this together.

Speaker 2: 57:10

Clay, I will let you get in the last words here. I feel like I've been running my mouth quite a bit, so send them back.

Speaker 3: 57:18

Listen, it's been a crazy week. It's going to continue to be crazy. Hopefully we'll get to many topics next week instead of just one big topic with a whole bunch of subtopics underneath. But we love having you guys and you know happy to have you jumping in and especially in the comments section. That's something we enjoy every week, whether it's Facebook or YouTube or any place else, but always happy to have you guys along for the ride and be the conductor on this crazy train leading up to the election. So, as always from me, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2: 57:50

Take care guys.