Biden's America: Present Day Impact & Long-Term Effects

 This episode sees us tackling the Easter Proclamation Controversy head-on, weighing the significance of intertwining Transgender Day of Visibility with a day of religious reverence. Our discussion isn't just about the surface-level frictions; it's a deep exploration of the undercurrents of dignity, respect, and the implications for future presidential proclamations. Plus, we’re unwrapping the curious case of the Easter Bunny incident and what it reveals about the image curation of the President.

As California takes a bold step towards banning gas vehicles, we’re here to question the practicality and underlying motives. We unpack the monumental challenges faced by the Golden State as it transitions to a greener future and the potential ripple effects on the economy and everyday Americans. 

Turning our focus to the White House, Vice President Kamala Harris's role amidst succession speculations becomes a hot topic. We dissect her strategic positioning and involvement in key issues, offering a unique perspective on the political chess game at play.

We address the recent shake up over at The Daily Wire, from where outspoken and popular pundit Candace Owens has left amidst allegations of anti-Semitism following very public disagreements between her and Ben Shapiro.

Finally, we zoom out to the global stage, scrutinizing Israel's military action in Syria and the ISIS-K attack in Moscow. These international incidents prompt us to consider the various approaches to terrorism and the stark contrasts in global political responses. Our heartfelt thanks go out to you, our listeners, for joining us through these intricate discussions, and we invite you to stay connected as we navigate the compelling currents of today's political and social landscape. Keep the conversation alive with us, and we promise to bring you the insights and debates that matter.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Well, hey, strangers, how are you all doing? I am doing fantastic. Yes, I am back, I am back. I am back and I'm happy to be back. I am Clay, I'm happy to be back. But I also can't wait to get back to the grandbabies, and that, yes, includes the newest one. He was born seven days late. He was seven days late, he was a slow poke, a slacker, but he's here and he's perfect and everybody's doing wonderful. And I can't thank you enough for holding down the fort for me for two weeks and absolutely killing it. You slayed such good shows.

Speaker 2: 0:42

Listen, I'm happy you're back. I know you're happy to be back. I'm happy to have you back. This is as much as I like doing the show and I love being able to support you for especially stuff like that. To go see the grandbaby that's all great, but so much more fun with you here. I think we just have a better time with the two of us together.

Speaker 1: 1:01

So I'm happy you're back, awesome awesome our time with the two of us together. So I'm happy you're back, awesome, awesome. The banter is so much fun. It's just fun, isn't it? Like? There's so many things and I was watching, you know, the last two weeks I was watching. I'm like, oh, I would love to jump in on that conversation. Oh, it was great fun.

Speaker 1: 1:15

So tonight we got a lot of topics for everybody. We'll see if we can get through. We're going to do the best we can, but they're all all the latest goings on in the world that we we feel like talking about. So right after this we are going to get started there, all right, so we're going gonna jump right into it. Right, like, let's just go crazy and jump right in. So, uh, right at the top of my list I don't know it was necessarily top of your list, clay, but right at the top of my list was, uh, the, the.

Speaker 1: 1:58

We just celebrated easter, of course, and, um, you know, I get it. For a lot of people, it it's just, you know, bunny rabbit hopping around and hiding eggs and coloring eggs and doing all that stuff and it, honestly, it always was that to me, like my whole life. I was not. I wasn't religious, I certainly wasn't a Christian and and, yes, my Christians watching, I know it's not a religion, don't don't come for me in the comments, I know, but yeah, so all those years it didn't mean a whole heck of a lot to me. And this is the first year, honestly, that I understood from that Christian perspective what the big deal was. And the reason why I say that is because you guys all probably already know where I'm going with this. I would be surprised if you didn't know where I was going, but on Easter, president Biden made a proclamation.

Speaker 1: 2:52

Now there's more layers to this, but let me just start it off with the surface of it, the initial onslaught of this. So we, being all of us, that that the world get a proclamation from President Biden and I'm pretty sure I have it here, like the screenshot of it here designating Easter Sunday, march 31st, as the Transvisibility Day, and so he puts up this proclamation and, yes, quite frankly, I and Christians all across the country got really, really offended and angry and mad, and rightfully so, by the way, this is like a high holy day here. This is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. We are Christians named for Jesus Christ. This was a big deal and to take this day and completely erase it. Essentially, you know the meaning of it, the depth of it and to focus on this group of people, and so I want to read the statement now.

Speaker 1: 4:04

He says on Transgender Day of Visibility, we celebrate the joy, strength and absolute courage of some of the bravest people. I know he says this and this was on Twitter. He says today we show millions of transgender and non-binary Americans that we see them, they belong and they should be treated with dignity and respect. Now, I certainly agree with that last part. Everybody should be treated with dignity and respect. So that's a no-brainer, that's the given. I would expect no less, at any point in time, to not acknowledge the fact that this is a very, very holy day and to only put this massive focus on this extremely small group of people is outrageous.

Speaker 2: 4:58

I mean, it really is.

Speaker 1: 4:59

Now I will go back and say, and I will say that I did not know this because I don't think any of us had any real reason to know. Apparently, this Trans Visibility Day has existed for like 15 years apparently. I had never heard of it before. I had no idea it's. Apparently it's always been March 31st, so you know. So that's the counter argument. You know that's what the left is saying oh, calm down. So that's the counter argument. You know that's that's what the left is saying oh, calm down. It's always been that day.

Speaker 1: 5:29

Now, suddenly it's a big deal to you. Well, it is a big deal to us because you're celebrating it, the White House is celebrating it and, by the way, they also banned the uh or language or anything from uh, this this Easter day event that they have. And I did read and I can't confirm it, I don't know if it's true Uh, supposedly this has been the case many, uh, for many years, that that's the case. And if that's true, I think that's absurd. How Easter? How, how do you eliminate the, the whole thing that it's actually about? You know it's. We're just living in the craziest world possible, right?

Speaker 2: 6:20

now. So you've got one of three things happened. Happened like you said. It's always on march 31st, okay. So either, um, the white house acknowledged the uh overlap and said we don't care, right? They acknowledged the overlap and chose to ignore it, right? Or they were so inept that they didn't even realize the overlap. So they're either inept, you know don't care, or decided that Easter can coexist with these two and they don't need to deconflict. Now, I know what you're saying about that. You know, taking the I think it was the egg decorating, you know they took all the religious not allowed.

Speaker 2: 7:12

And you know, the Easter celebration at the White House has been convoluted and slowly getting watered down year after year to be more inclusive. And you know, and it was always an Easter egg hunt, and then it was egg rolling, and then it was all these things you get the kids out on the white house lawn and you know it's all, it's all a dog and pony show, Um, but when you start putting restrictions on it, that now you have a different problem, Cause, like you said, this is you know, this is Christmas without the Christ, right, this is the. You know, now they've turned it into something that it's not. And you know, and I know that you know now they've turned it into something that it's not. And you know, and I know that you know, Santa Claus has nothing to do with the birth of Christ and the Easter Bunny has nothing to do with resurrection. God, Right, that's the commercialization of the holiday and it kind of is what it is.

Speaker 2: 7:57

And all of this is, I agree with you, we're like this is, we're in tele. You know, this is a crazy world we're living in. All of this is going on and everybody says it's no big deal, or they say we don't care. We can, you know, piss off the Christians. That's fine. We'll pander to the very small group, like you said. But the thing that bothers me the most is that when the president was questioned about this, he goes. I didn't do that. Right, he goes. I didn't do that. A reporter asked him point blank, directly, directly.

Speaker 1: 8:26

I didn't do that.

Speaker 2: 8:27

I didn't do that Now the White House is the White House is saying his answer because the reporter questioned him along the lines of what we're talking about, which is did you know that you, that it's right on top of Easter, that you put this proclamation for Transvisibility Day right on top of Easter? And he said I didn't do that. The White House is saying well, what he meant was it's always on the 31st. Therefore, he didn't put it there, they just happened to coincide and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1: 8:53

Yes, I love how his cleanup crew comes in every time and corrects everything.

Speaker 2: 8:58

And the bigger question is, and the conclusion that most of us are coming to is, he has no idea what he's signing, and the reality is he's not signing anything. Right, they're, they're, they're putting things in front of him and maybe not even putting things in front of him. Maybe the white house chief of staff said yeah, just go ahead and make it. It's the 31st every year, it's pro forma, we don't care about Easter, whatever. And so the speaker of the house was the one who was very upset about it. He said well, there's signatures on it. Well, let me, let me, let me clue everybody in. Unless you watch the president sign something, literally physically, see him do it, they don't sign anything.

Speaker 2: 9:31

There's a device that has been around for decades, called an auto pen. When I was an aide for a general, we had one. You put a marker in it and it mimics his signature. Right, there's a code you have to put in. It's very controlled. Wow, line up the piece of paper underneath, you, hit the button and it, and it does a signature and it's written in a real pen with a real marker. Yeah, right, real, you know, it's ink. It's not a digital replication, it's not printed by a printer.

Speaker 2: 9:59

That's why I had no idea. Yeah, yeah. So unless you see the president sign any of this stuff, he never signed it. Right guaranteed, he never signed it.

Speaker 1: 10:08

So when he said you know, I didn't do that.

Speaker 2: 10:10

He really didn't do that because he has.

Speaker 1: 10:12

He really didn't yeah yeah, he has no clue and and you know, and let's I mean, let's be real anything that is put out on twitter from his account, from his official account, it's not him, you know. And anybody who thinks that it is actually him is is. You know, I don't know, I got, I got a bridge to sell you or some swamp land or whatever. You know, that's the old things and so that's so outdated to even say that. But I don't care, I said it.

Speaker 2: 10:40

I could be very coarse and say I have a bridge in Maryland to sell you. But yeah, I mean, everybody got mad because President Trump did do his own tweets the mean tweets thing and now you've got a president who doesn't. That guy couldn't operate a you know a smartphone if he tried to get on Twitter to tweet something to put on X or whatever it's called. He couldn't do that. That's not him, that's his press people doing that stuff.

Speaker 1: 11:07

Which you know. It's another one of those moments where you really should be taking that pause and saying who is running the country? Because it ain't that guy, it ain't that guy. He doesn't know what the hell is going on at any given moment. No clue, nope. And I tell you, you know, and I haven't done it yet and the moment's already passed, so I'm probably I'm not going to make it, it's just too late, but I was thinking back. You know, when this all happened. I was thinking back on I don't know if it was last Easter or the or the one before, but you remember the whole Easter bunny thing getting up in front of you know, starting to. I think it looked like he was starting to talk about something he wasn't supposed to be talking about and the easter bunny jumped out in front of him and did this whole thing and like, redirected him, which we all know that that was. You know that was a plant in there, not not? Uh, not some guy hired to play the easter bunny, that was one of their people in there.

Speaker 2: 12:00

that was a. That was a secret service agent, is what that?

Speaker 1: 12:02

100, no question about percent, no question about it. And he got redirected and, you know, like, shuttled around and you know, and I was thinking I was trying to come up with a video to make for it, like that, this was like this was his revenge, you know, against Easter to to do this, but but the moment passed. You know, it's just. You know the whole thing. It's just yet another. Know the whole thing. It's just yet another. It's yet another thing. It's another slap in the face. Um, it's another insult. It's another display of choosing. Um, you know and I know for some people this is going to be too harsh of a word, but I'm sorry, I do believe it Choosing evil over what's good and right, deliberately, consistently and blatantly. And this is the course. This is the path that we're on with this administration and it's only going to get worse. And you know that can actually take us right into the next topic. They want to fast track. Now, they've been talking about this for a little bit now. Aoc, notably, brought it up, you know, weeks, if not months, ago, this idea to fast track illegals or, as they like to say, undocumented for citizenship. And all that means is they just? You know, we all know what it means. They just want to hurry up, get them passed through so they can be voters and voters for them. You know that's the whole flood, the whole system, that's the plan, that's the idea, and you know none of the.

Speaker 1: 13:44

And this is such an insult. This is again yet another slap in the face to all of the legal immigrants who came into this country, who are coming into this country by legal means, doing the right thing, going through the process. Is it easy? No, does it take a long time? Yes, does it suck? Absolutely, there's no question about it. But for all, clearly, it doesn't matter if they're breaking the law here, because jack shit happens to them. It's, it's, it's insane. And here's the fun part. Of course, we can play a game called guess who? Um, so 18 senators demand fast track citizenship for illegal immigrants. 18 senators, I wonder what party they belong to.

Speaker 2: 14:53

We could probably guess the states if we tried hard enough.

Speaker 1: 14:55

Yeah, right Do.

Speaker 2: 14:57

I have them.

Speaker 1: 14:57

I don't think I have them. Yeah, but you're right, you could.

Speaker 2: 15:01

Yeah, you could probably hit the states and, for sure, the party. I mean, that's easy enough, but this is, you know, it's and we'll. We'll probably get into this a little bit more, maybe touch on it a little bit later, but this is to replace the voters that they're losing from the, the racial minorities, because there is huge number swing for Latino, hispanic voters moving to Trump conservative, republican side. You're starting to lose more Interestingly, specifically, young black males are moving away from the Democratic Party. Now, they're not necessarily moving to Trump Republican, but they're essentially losing votes because they're not voting right. That's part of the problem as well. But there is a, there is a shift that's going on in the, in the racial demographics that the Democrats have traditionally depended upon modern Democrats, let's, let's be realistic right, since since probably the 1970s, and. But they're starting to lose them. So now they've got to find a way to replace them. And you said this is about votes and this is what they're doing. So they have and they're doing it both ways. They're doing the. Screw it. We'll just let them vote anyway. The California method, right, yeah, right, probably the best way to you know. Call it, because that's doing it Right, probably the best way to, you know, call it, because that's who's doing it.

Speaker 2: 16:24

California method of just let them vote. Or the AOC side, right, which she's got a little bit more of a conservative Democratic base. Right, there's Democrats, but there's a way to do things kind of a thing. So I think she's playing to her base, which is, you know, they can vote as long as they're citizens. Let's just alter the course to make them citizens, right. Right, so they're they're.

Speaker 2: 16:48

They're coming at it from every angle, but it is about getting and replace, getting new votes to replace the votes that they're losing in the same types of demographics. So, but it is, it is a kick to all those generations of those folks who went through and did it the right way, the way that it's designed to be done, like you've talked about, and you know how would you feel if you were them. Like you know, they're going to have to replace every one of those with two more, because you're going to start to lose them. You're going to start to lose the older, you know, immigrant population who became citizens the hard way. They're going to be insulted and they're going to flip party. So now they're not. Now they've got to replace them too. So now it's like a double whammy that they've got to, they've got to take care of. So I don't know if this is the right path. I don't think it's going to get them what they're looking for. But uh, this that it is certainly about votes. You're right.

Speaker 1: 17:45

Yeah, yeah, it is, and uh, it's, it's just disgusting. Yeah, I think, I think I, I, I'm the, the, the daughter and granddaughter of legal immigrants who came from Cuba and Germany respectively. And you know the thing about my grandparents that I remember so well, and they've all since passed away, but one of the things I remember and loved so much of these memories is is their love, like their genuine love for this country. Nobody celebrated the 4th of July harder than my grandparents, like my grandfather, my, on the German side. I mean, he would blast Neil Diamond what is it? America coming to America? That song would be like full blast.

Speaker 1: 18:31

You know, and and these are people who, I mean, they truly did come for the American dream, you know, and they appreciate it, and it was such an, such an impact of powerful moment to become citizens to, you know, my, or my mother specifically. It was a big deal, you know, and it was because they had to work for it, because they had to sacrifice and because of where they came from and what they left behind to come here for, and you know, to, to see that so disregarded and just dirt kicked on it is is so upsetting. It really truly is, and and, um, you know I I don't know what's going to happen with all of this. I, I know we are in, you know, really big trouble. I, we're just in big trouble and and that's might be, you know, one of the understatements of the year, but I hope that gets stopped. I don't, I don't know, I've I've lost quite a bit of hope as to the right things happening within our government.

Speaker 2: 19:37

So there's, there's one. There's one, like in where I live now, in Pennsylvania, there's one bright hope, because Pennsylvania is one of the contested like. The election was stolen, there was votes, there was ballots, delivered in the middle of the night, there was a bunch of winky stuff that went on Mail-in. Ballots have to have, you know, a date stamp on the envelope and if it's past the specific, so it can't be hand walked in, it can't be delivered by somebody, it's got to be run through the post office with a post it, you know, with a timestamp, a date stamp on it from the post office for it to be valid. So that's a step in the right direction by the courts. So that's a good thing, but it's not enough to overcome. You know all the shenanigans that happened, you know, quite a few years ago.

Speaker 1: 20:25

Right and I enough to overcome.

Speaker 2: 20:26

you know all the shenanigans that happened, you know, quite a few years ago, right, and I'm not one of those that you know. It's stolen, bought whatever.

Speaker 1: 20:32

There's just enough doubt in everything that happened that it's hard to ignore, you know, and all we can say is the same thing that we say over and over again, and that is man oh man, don't think that your vote doesn't matter. You know, just get out there and vote. And I know so many people are disheartened and they do think, well, what does it matter? You know, especially the people who think that it's rigged, they're sitting there going, it doesn't matter if I vote or I don't it, it matters, it matters, it matters, just do it, just do it, get out there. And, um, you know, I think the other biggest thing thing and I'm not really one to talk, I shouldn't, this isn't a, this isn't my choir to be preaching to but man oh man, do people really need to get involved in their local politics? You know, your average Joes need to get involved in local politics because that's where everything basically starts. So there's my sort of kind of soapbox there for a second.

Speaker 1: 21:20

But you mentioned California, california, here's. Here's yet another fun thing that they've come up with to do, and of course, this has been going on for a little while now. It's a longer conversation than a hot minute, but California and I think it's nine other states might be nine. I'll double check that they are planning to ban gas vehicles by 2035. Gone, boom, gone. That should be great. I'm sure the power grid can handle that no problem.

Speaker 2: 21:55

I mean, that alone is a reason it's not going to happen. I mean, as California stands right now and I understand this is 11 years from now but the reality is that they're not going to be able to generate, update, build enough power plants or power plant capacity to get rid of all gas powered vehicles by 2035. But so so California itself can't support it. Right, they have problems now. I mean, the last two years it's been hey, we would prefer that you don't charge your cars. You know it's almost like the, the, you know places like that. I don't know if you ever lived in a place, or during a drought, where it's like hey, if you have an even number, you know you can water your lawn on a certain day. If you have an odd number address, then you're the opposite and blah, blah, blah and they control water consumption like that. They're going to have to do the same thing with power. Right, you can only charge your car on off days or even days, odd days, whatever. It is Still not going to support it.

Speaker 2: 22:52

But really, what's going to destroy this in concept, before it even gets off the ground, is trucking Like California with the amount of ports that they have. Right, if you can't get it off the port. You can't, it's useless, right? So they do that with trucks and they're not gonna do it by electric trucks, because electric trucks don't work, right? They've already I don't know if you've seen it, but I've seen a couple of the conceptual diagrams for these things and they have to haul a trailer as big as a trailer just for the batteries so that they can haul the. You know what I mean. It would be like a double semi to haul one load. Right, you got one load of cargo, one load of batteries. You know what I mean, and that's kind of how it's.

Speaker 2: 23:39

But the trucking industry is looking at this and they're shaking their heads because they're not going to do it. But how do you get the stuff off of the port? How do you get it off the docks and where does it go? So, unless they're going to extend every rail line to every port and they're going to move everything by rail, which they're not going to do, right? Because what do you do about inside of California, mm? Hmm, right, right, right, yeah. So, yeah, exactly, the ports alone. When you talk about the Bay Area, los Angeles, you talk about San Diego, all of the ports along the coast. That alone makes this a non-issue. They're not going to be able to move.

Speaker 1: 24:18

Yeah, I mean they're….

Speaker 2: 24:19

They'll destroy their own economy.

Speaker 1: 24:21

Right, yeah, logistics-wise, I mean, every which way you look at it, it's, it's unsustainable, it's just not practical, it's not logical and it's not really the environmentally friendly thing that they want you to believe that it is. You know it's, it's absurd, it's absolutely absurd. And the thing that always gets me with this and all of the things that they do, honestly, is that you can't tell me, you can't get me to believe that these people are too stupid to to think of these things. You know they can't be. It's impossible for them to be so dumb to not think of all these possibilities.

Speaker 1: 25:03

So the alternative to that, if you say these are not dumb people, they've thought about, they realize all of these things and yet they're still pushing forward with all of these things that they're doing, from the illegal immigrant fast tracking to these, you know, evs the only alternative to understand what's happening is that is deliberate destruction. You know it's deliberate attempts to just destroy our country. I mean, how else can you look at it? You know, I mean this is the grand scheme and the grand plan of socialists, right? They want absolute dependence on the government. They want everybody to be equal, equally poor, equally dependent, equally, you know, incapable of, of functioning without and, and as always, I think I say this every episode that we we talk about these things, this every episode that we we talk about these things.

Speaker 1: 26:09

The only thing that makes me more mad and frustrated than these people doing this are the dummies, and I'm calling them dummies. These are the dummies that are like little minions going. These are great ideas, you know. Clean energy. Let me get my bumper sticker on my. You know plug car. I can't take it Clay.

Speaker 2: 26:29

And we've already. You know that it doesn't take much to figure out that even the US shifting to EVs one, the pollution that's caused by building them is worse than gas cars. You know, the child labor involved in mining is atrocious, but oh, by the way, the rest of the world's not making the shift, so it doesn't matter. We're not fixing anything and all we're doing is making things more expensive for the average American, both in vehicle costs, in paying their electric bill, in consumption of goods, transportation costs associated. We're just making everything more expensive. So you're right, this is about tearing the economy apart to make everybody dependent upon the government, which is what they want, which is, you know, the next step into socialism. So that's where all of this is headed. And, truthfully, you know we can't do another four years in this direction. We can't, we're done for, we're done for. I'm telling you, another four years in this direction. We can't, we're done for, we're done for.

Speaker 2: 27:28

I'm telling you another four years, and I hate saying this and I don't want to be the conspiracy theorist and the chicken little sky is falling, but I'm telling you, another four years of this is going to turn violent. It's going to turn violent. That's the end result of this is violence, and it's going to be a lot of violence because people are not going to be able to survive it. They're not going to be able to pay their bills. They're not going to be able to, you know, and banks don't care.

Speaker 2: 27:54

You're going to have people losing their houses. You're going to have people losing their cars. You're going to have, you know, massive government dependency and then things are going to turn violent because people who've lost things and have had things taken away from them are going to want them back. Yes, they're going to take them, and they're going to take them from they can't take them from the government. So where are they going to take them from? People who still have them Right, and then the violence is going to go up and it's going to get ugly real, real fast. So I don't want to be that guy.

Speaker 1: 28:32

But that's I mean I, you know, I agree with you, Nobody wants to be that guy, but, um, I'll tell you I am, I am definitely 100% that guy these days. I, I am, my husband chuckled a little bit, but you know he, he also, he also knows I'm serious, you know cause. It's just he chuckled because it's coming from me and it's it probably does sound funny that I'm like you got to get your, you know your supplies. I want to have all our stuff and things so that we are prepared for, you know, for the grid going down, for all of the things that can happen. And, like you said, if we have another four years of this, you better start prepping, my friends, you better be ready and you better have all of the things that you need and, um, you know to, to survive essentially. And yeah, I know that sounds crazy, because we live a pretty comfy, cushy life and we can't imagine that ever being a possibility. Um, but we are damn skippy, we're heading that direction, know so?

Speaker 1: 29:27

you can either, uh, shrug it off, guys, or or take it seriously, and I know a lot of our, I know a lot of our our listeners and and watchers actually do take it seriously. So you know it is a preaching to the choir moment here, but, um, for those handful of people that might come in and say, you know what are these people talking about? Um, yeah, we're talking about better be smart, because it's going to get ugly. If this is the path that we stay on, it's going to be bad, for sure, for sure. Sorry, guys, for the doom and gloom, but you know it is what it is for sure. Oh, we can want to lighten up a little bit, cause this is, this is always funny, always funny to talk about this, this one here, which is, you know, terrible of us, because you know she's, she is definitely trying to have. I always have to use this picture of her. You know she's definitely working on some main character energy. Her camp, the whole Biden-Harris team, is putting her out front and center, right, as somebody who can handle things, because everybody knows, everybody knows, the situation with Joe. They're just not saying it, they're not acknowledging it, they won't, they can't, but if they're putting her forward. They're freaking out. They are freaking out. What has she done so in recent weeks? She has.

Speaker 1: 31:06

She's been to Florida a couple of times to spar with with DeSantis over there over how to teach slavery in schools. That got a little contentious. She flew to Iowa to oh, the abortion clinics visits. That was actually a very big deal. I think she's the first, she the first ever, she might be the first, I don't know, I might be going too far, but yeah, yes, so that was. That's a pretty big statement right there. Obviously Not that it's a surprise, but it's definitely. If anybody did question it, you know they're letting you know loud and clear. If anybody did question it, you know they're letting you know loud and clear. She also took a couple trips to South Carolina, which is obviously a campaign battleground and it's I think I read that she's like they're going to set up like a field office there. So she's on the move, she is on the move, she is being very vocal. I appreciate her for giving me material endlessly, you know, but that's about all I can thank her for.

Speaker 2: 32:11

Everything else is yeah she's, she's obviously the support network. So she is younger, she's mobile, she can go places, she can do now they are all crossing their fingers in the back that she doesn't, you know, shoot herself in the foot by opening her mouth, but you know they're rolling out everybody. I mean you saw it the foot by opening her mouth, um, but you know they're, they're rolling out everybody. I mean, you saw it the other night, right, he went through. Instead of going to that, uh, unfortunately that slain officers, uh, funeral, um, he decided to go to a fundraiser with, you know, bill Clinton and, and you know, president, president Clinton and president Obama, um, and you know, so he, but that's local, right, right, like that's right, he can't go far. She can travel for him, um, but they're rolling out the whole, like they're they're pulling everything out now because they know things bad, um, but you're right, she has to present a viable, um, you know, backup in case something happens to the president, because everybody's afraid that's what's going to happen and there are people who will vote, you know, not for Trump, but against him, because they know he's going to become incapacitated and she's going to have to take over and nobody wants that Right. So she's got to present a better image.

Speaker 2: 33:19

But you know, I met somebody a couple of weeks ago and this is a woman who is, you know, a financial bigwig, and I'm not going to say who she is, but a number of years ago, when Vice President Harris was on her way up and coming in the California you know legal world and she was friends with the mayor and you know all of that stuff was going on, was going on. The mayor asked this woman to have lunch with this young attorney, kamala Harris, to maybe give her some mentorship as a powerful female with a lot of brain. This woman I met is a genius, she's brilliant and this is 30 years ago, right, or 25 years years ago, and she said she was one of the dumbest people she's ever met and that, like the nervous cackling, like that's been going on forever, really, yeah, that she's and and. But she said she was so, so unimpressed, like the lunch was uncomfortable, like it was, and she was so shocked. You know, when the mayor asks you to have lunch with somebody like this, right, you know to offer some mentorship.

Speaker 2: 34:38

Like you know, this is somebody that that's vetted it's. You know there's somebody with some some. You know they're on an upward trajectory and she was baffled during by the end of this lunch. Like what did I get asked to do? This girl's like she's really just that dumb, like I can't believe this. So, and listen, you know this. You replicate her all the time.

Speaker 2: 34:58

She hasn't gotten any better like no, still just as dumb as dumb can be, even given script.

Speaker 1: 35:04

She can't do it. It's so crazy. You know, I laugh. I laugh all the time at at my comment section on those videos, on those Kamala impersonation videos. I crack up because you know that's, that's the defender's go-to every time. She, she was an attorney. What have you done? You know she's the vice president. What have you done? Well, I didn't sleep my way to the top, I can tell you that. So you know, oh, did I say that? Was that my outside voice? Oh, listen, I'm not saying she did Well, I did just say that she did sort of kind of. But yes, we all know, you know, let's call it what it is, these are things that have been not even whispered, just outright said how she managed to work her way up the ladder. And, yes, I know so many women in positions of power, success and all of those things they get accused of. That that's always.

Speaker 2: 36:05

You know the backhanded whispers and things when it comes to women and you know and I hate to be someone who perpetuates that type of thing, but you know, when you you hear the same story over and over again and with no deviation, you kind of say more importantly, no legal action from an attorney for libel slander, like she hasn't sued anybody for this right, because in a court of law she it's, she's gonna lose, and then it's documented, then it's documented and there's no denying at that point because all of that's going to come out Right. That's why there's never been a single attempt, not a single lawsuit against anyone in the press anywhere about any of this, because it can all be proven in a court of law and she won't fight it because she doesn't want to document it.

Speaker 1: 37:02

Yeah, that's a spectacular point that we will be reiterating.

Speaker 2: 37:06

She's an attorney. She is an attorney, can't do it yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:11

Yeah. So you know, I mean this is what they're giving their party right now, and you get. I mean you know.

Speaker 2: 37:22

Even RFK Jr. Rfk Jr is doing this. He's like, let me at her, like, come on doing this. He's like, let me add her, like come on, oh, he's, yeah, he's excited like, oh, you know, and he's like his vice, his vp selection. I don't know, I didn't know, I don't know anything about this lady that he is named um other than she's, uh, you know, a business big wig of sorts, but um, you know he, he sees it, she's the she's the weak spot. I mean biden. You know he, he sees it, she's the she's the weak spot. I mean Biden's. You know, everybody knows president Biden's on his way down, but he knows that that, that pairing, that, that ticket, they're dead meat. He can't wait to get his hands on them.

Speaker 1: 37:57

Yeah, oh my gosh, he could uh circles around for his, you know, with with his speech issues, with his speech issues, he can still articulate faster, clearer, better than she could on her absolute best day. If she were reading from a script, he'd still slaughter her, no question about it. So yeah, oh man, oh man, so yeah. So I mean, you know, let's keep watching, right, but get the popcorn, keep watching. It's one hell of a show every day. Speaking of shows, daily Wire.

Speaker 1: 38:38

So you know, I've been a Daily Wire subscriber for I don't know a while now. I like Ben. You know, I don't. I don't have like a while now I like Ben. I don't have strong feelings about any of them. I actually who is there's actually one I like? Is it Matt Walsh? No, who's the other? Oh, knowles, michael Knowles, he's actually the one I like the best. But I think they're interesting, they're good. Candace Owen obviously, if you don't know already, you should know. You can't be under a rock. You know these things. But Daily Wire slash Ben Shapiro, specifically split from Candace Owen. There's like swirling that she was fired. Some say it was just the contract was up. They were a lot of contentious stuff going on. Her and Ben were have been very publicly feuding, disputing specifically the the Israel Gaza conflict war.

Speaker 2: 39:50

Are we calling? Are we allowed to call it a war? I mean because it is a war. I mean because it is a war, isn't it? I mean, yeah, I, I think, uh, you know, israel would probably tell you they've been at war for since, yeah, 1948. Right, because I feel like saying you know what it is clay.

Speaker 1: 39:58

I feel like saying conflict is kind of almost minimizing it, trivializing it, and it's it's not at all. So I feel like conflict isn't a strong enough word to say, and I'm afraid war was too strong a word to say, so I'm deferring to you how I should phrase it.

Speaker 2: 40:13

Yeah, I mean I, you, the common, the common phrase in in the news you know, in in media now is is conflict. People don't like to say war, war is an ugly thing, but I, but I would tell you that modern war, the things that we did for 20 plus years in Iraq and Afghanistan, you know, other than for very brief periods of time, didn't look like anything that happened in World War II.

Speaker 1: 40:36

So you know the face of war changes.

Speaker 2: 40:39

you know it evolves all the time. But I think that media is using conflict, conflict. But again, I would tell you that Israel would tell you that these are all just battles within a very, very long war that they've been fighting since inception in 1948. So I don't think you can go wrong one way or the other.

Speaker 1: 40:56

Okay good, okay, good, good, good, good, because this is always a little bit out of my depth here. I'm trying to be very careful what I say. So yeah, so they have been kind of going back and forth, interestingly enough, when this was going on. So Candace Owen has made some statements that are being viewed by certain people, including Ben Shapiro, as being anti-Semitic. They have been going back and forth and he's been very public. I guess I think there was like a party. It was recorded. He was kind of really bashing her and it's, it's a bad look. You know, you're supposed to be on the same team and you guys are going at it. So, anyhow, michael no, what's his name?

Speaker 1: 41:37

Jeremy Boring, who's like co-owner or whatever had made a statement a little while back. He said that they would not fire Candace because of here's the exact quote. He says even if we could, we would not fire Candace because of another thing we have in common a desire not to regulate the speech of our hosts, even when we disagree with them. So that was a statement he made early on with this. He was asked like what do you think you're going to fire her? Because this is pretty bad? And that was what he said. And then all of a sudden you know they have a parting of ways and she's saying things like you know I'm free at last, you know, like she's free and grateful to be out of there, as if she was kind of being held hostage, meaning by contract or something. So whatever happened there, it was, it was, you know, pretty ugly and you know it's, it's. I tell you, it's funny. You can look at so many different news sources and this is no surprise to anyone but so many different news sources and depending which way they lean determines the, the way that they phrase you know. So one of the articles I opened up said far right, hosts of Daily Way, you know, like far right, you know ultra right, blah, blah, blah. And they're saying all these things. So I had to kind of like bounce around a little bit to find somewhere in the middle to get a little bit more of truth.

Speaker 1: 43:05

So apparently she has made a lot of criticism towards the Israeli army's actions in Gaza. In November she tweeted there's no justification for a genocide. I can't believe this even needs to be said or is even considered the least bit controversial to state. Her remarks were in response to the Israeli army's siege in Gaza in retaliation to the October 7th Hamas-led terrorist attack. So she has, you know, made quite a few comments that have made people in the Jewish community feel as if she is a problem, basically. So yeah, so that's that they have parted ways.

Speaker 1: 43:50

My personal feelings on that is that it's not a good look, I think, for the Daily Wire, to be honest with you, when you make one statement, you say listen our hosts, they have a right to their opinions, to express their opinions, and then turn around and part ways with somebody. You know, I don't know, I don't know there's there's a big, you know. I actually did a little poll just for ha ha's. I was curious when this first happened, how many people were Team Candace versus Team Ben or Daily Wire? A lot of favor, a lot in favor for Candace. She had a lot of support out there.

Speaker 2: 44:29

Yeah, so they were both, you know, darlings of the conservative media side. Yeah, you know, obviously Ben Shapiro is like the name truthfully at Daily Wire, right, right, no doubt about that. You know, I don't know if I would put either of them in the upper echelons with, like Tucker Carlson or Glenn Beck even, but but they're get, they're close, like they're getting there. You know, candace Owens is a is a bit of a unicorn. You know, black female conservative. You know pro-life. She's the one who's been, you know, preaching the Brexit. She's the one who's been, you know, preaching the black sit out of the democratic party. That's her and doing that, the stuff we were talking about earlier. So you know what this doesn't show you know we've talked about this before is there's no united front, and I don't think in journalism you necessarily should have or need to have a united front. It just, you know, kind of breeds that division that we've all been complaining about for the last 10 years or so. But this does smack of a little bit of childish, I think, behavior. I mean, I heard some rumors, you know some things, that Candace is being accused of saying that. No, you can't even say in your right mind. You know that Christians drink or no Jews drink the blood of Christians. You know, like she said that out loud, like, if she said that out loud, it was in a, in a like, can you believe that people actually? You know what I mean, like out of context, if she even said it, which I highly doubt she did, so it's this all seems a little childish to me in in the way that it was handled. Now, yes, if you know what she did, say the twitter stuff from november, she, she said I mean, it's out there, you can't deny it, right? You know that was kind of the overreaction of genocide.

Speaker 2: 46:24

I think people have been throwing that word around. Listen, if the Israelis wanted to cause a genocide of Palestinians which we're still trying to figure out what that means, because it's not a thing they would call inside of their own Israeli borders. First, there's 2 million you know, there's 2 million plus Arabs that live, you know, arabs, muslims, that live inside of Israel, right, not in the occupied territories, not in Gaza, not like in Jerusalem, and like they coexist and everything's fine, right? So if there was going to be a genocide, they would start there and then they would worry about the occupied territories. It would look a lot like Berlin in 1939. But that's not happening.

Speaker 2: 47:11

Right, so that the you know, people throwing around the word genocide and people have been doing it a lot is, you know, erroneous and it's, and it's a that's a pretty stark accusation against a people that were the victim of genocide, right, right, right so that that burns, you know, jews specifically, pretty, pretty hot. Um, so you know, people didn't appreciate that at all and I think that's where this all kind of went sideways. Um, whether she agrees with what Israel is doing or not is one thing. Um, use of that word and making an accusation like that kind of ups it a little bit more. And that's when I think we got kind of into the childish realm of you know how we're going to handle this.

Speaker 2: 47:53

And there was the name calling and you know, all those other things, but I do believe it was uncomfortable enough for her that she did just want out of there. She was probably happy that they came to whatever terms of agreement you know to get her out of there, for her to leave, like you said, the free at last. You know proclamation. I think she was probably happy to leave. The problem is, where does she go?

Speaker 1: 48:16

Yeah, right, does she go in the journalist route.

Speaker 2: 48:20

Does she? Does she mimic Tucker and hope things work out for you know? Does she bounce over to the blaze? Does she? You know what I mean. Like, where does she go to do this?

Speaker 1: 48:30

She's not going to Fox, I can tell you that right no, no, definitely not.

Speaker 2: 48:35

You know she's, I hope I hope she's got a plan, because I think her voice is important to journalism in general. Um, you know, and she's, she's probably as much a pundit as she is a journalist, probably more so pundit, but again she's an important voice to have out there and I don't think it does anybody any good to have her wandering around, you know, shaking a cup, selling pencils, trying to get back on TV, like that.

Speaker 1: 49:01

Yeah so yeah, it did it did. Yeah, I think you know I agree with you on that, it did it did. Yeah, that I think I, you know I agree with you on the and the. I think that's the thing that kind of got me the most the, the pettiness of it, and you know I would have liked it and I agree that. You know I don't need to see it doesn't need to be a united front, um, but just keep it classy. Can we keep it classy at the very least? Like that's, like, that's all I would ask for, like know what we have, a we we've come to a point where, uh, we're an impasse. We're not going to agree. This is an uncomfortable, unpleasant situation for all of us, and we all agree that it's best for us to part ways. Uh, we wish each other the best and in their endeavors, you know, like, class it up, let's, let's, let's be those guys with the class, not, you know?

Speaker 2: 49:49

but I'm sure it will be a topic. If it hasn't been already, it'll be a topic on the view of course, oh of course you know those cackling hens.

Speaker 1: 49:57

Man can't stand them, I can't stand them, yeah speaking of israel, right? Yes, yes yes, yes, hang on, where is?

Speaker 2: 50:03

it here. It is boom, yeah, so it's like the longest heading ever.

Speaker 2: 50:08

I don't know what I was thinking. Chalk another one up for Clay. We talked about this a couple of months ago maybe, and we were talking about how the IRGC, the Iranian army, the military and the government has been backing Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and all this other stuff, and they've been funding and equipping and training terrorist organizations all across the Middle East for a number of years, and the United States has already killed one commander of this organization within the Iranian army, and I said that should be the most dangerous job in the world and every day you should be worried that you're going to get killed. Hey, here we go.

Speaker 1: 50:50

This is the guy, that's the guy.

Speaker 2: 50:56

And Israel has, as I understand it, they've said yeah, that was us, we did it. So they tracked him, they had some intelligence on his location and he was in a consulate in Damascus, Syria, and they flew an airstrike and they blew the building to shit and they killed him and they said you want to keep funding Hamas, who's harassing us, and Hezbollah and Houthis and all this other stuff? That's fine, put somebody else in charge, because this guy's gone. And they took chess piece, came off the table, and then zero remorse gone and they took you know chess piece, came off the table, and then zero remorse, you know.

Speaker 2: 51:34

Interesting though is is what does that do Like? What does Syria do Like cause? You know? This is the difference for those that you know it's an, it's not an embassy, right, so it's not. You know embassies around the world are. You know, if you're in the U S embassy in Germany, you're actually in the United States. That's us ground, right. A consulate is not the same thing. That is that's. That's not it at all.

Speaker 2: 51:54

Um, so really, what the Israelis did was they flew into Syria and blew apart a building owned by the Iranians in Syria, on Syrian territory. So what does Syria do? Right, I think Syria is going to sit this one out. I think they're going to let this one go. I don't think they're going to do shit about it. Um, but but again, big, big, big step by Israel to say keep, put another guy in charge, and when you put him in charge, we're going to track that guy down and we're going to kill him too. If you guys keep doing this, we'll play this game all day. Um, so good for them. Um, I, I like it myself, I think it's. Uh, I was actually surprised it was them and not us, but good for them, um and uh but.

Speaker 2: 52:32

But you know, I called it.

Speaker 1: 52:34

You called it, you called it, we got to start taking a like a running test. I need a board behind it, right, you know, we can just check it right off and be like yep, another one, yes, one, yes, you did call it for sure. It was so funny when we we started talking about that.

Speaker 2: 52:49

You're like called it called it, called it, yep. So, on the, even before that and here's another, we'll, we'll. We'll touch this very, very briefly, and I missed it last week when you were gone, I, I just totally missed this. But there was the um ISIS K attack in Moscow, right, and they attacked the concert and they killed a hundred and however many people it was, it was awful. The question that we all and we'll keep this one short but the question we all need to be asking ourselves is why, what you know, why in the world would ISIS-K walk into Moscow of all places and attack them? Listen, the United States, nato, even the United Nations, we all abide by laws, even when it comes to fighting a war Geneva Convention, law of land warfare. We have laws that we follow to make sure that war is conducted in a humane manner, as much as we can. Ok, putin and the Russians don't care, like they could have poked any bear in the woods and they pick the absolute wrong one.

Speaker 2: 53:56

That was the craziest bear to poke, I don't care, I don't, I don't know why, like, isis came. For those of you that don't know, is the Afghan branch of ISIS Right and, and, and you know, is the Afghan branch of ISIS right. And go back in history, not all that long ago, but there's a pretty significant issue between the old Soviets and Afghanistan. Right, happened in 79,. The Soviets invaded, they stayed there, they wrecked the country for 10 years and then they left. But they've also stayed their nose out of everything that's been going on there for the last 20 plus years, right, yeah, so I don't know why ISIS K, after all this time decided to poke the bear, the worst bear, the guy, the most rabid bear you could poke. He used to be a KGB officer. Like this guy doesn't give a shit. He, you know I don't understand this at all, because the potential for repercussions here is is high and it's going to be, and it has the potential to be very, very violent and very ugly and he's not going to give a crap at all.

Speaker 1: 54:53

And just a little indicator of how different Putin Russia handles things like this compared to, I don't know. Let's just say us. Somebody bombs something. They live, they get taken into custody, they stand trial. Well, they do that too. But here's what these guys look like when they go. Now the guy in the middle. Ok, now Clay, did you? I don't even know if I should say this to you guys, but what I read was that they cut his ear off and fed it to him.

Speaker 2: 55:32

I'm pretty sure that's true by the looks of it Wouldn't surprise me, wouldn't shock me at all, not even a little bit Right.

Speaker 1: 55:38

And I'm sorry if I just, you know, grossed anybody out. You know military guy cop's wife here gallows humor. I mean you know we're we're not too phased, but sorry for anybody who is. I mean, one more, look at that picture. These guys had a really bad time.

Speaker 2: 55:58

Listen, we, we put ourselves, I mean, think back like dog collars at Abu grave, waterboarding, all that stuff. Like all of that ended, you know, in and around 2007,. Eight ish, right, we put our own people on trial for stuff like that. Right, I mean, we convicted people of doing things and then, oh, by the way, when we did that, we started allowing, you know, terrorists to you know, um, the privilege of our legal system to you know the privilege of our legal system, right, right, in Gitmo, you know their lawyer would go in and you know they all had lawyers and fair trials and all this other stuff. They're not getting that out of Putin. That stuff's not happening. Those three guys I would be shocked right now if all three of those guys are still alive.

Speaker 1: 56:46

Yeah, yeah, and if they are, they're, those guys are still alive yeah. Yeah, and if they are, and if they are, they're wishing that they were not dead.

Speaker 2: 56:52

You are correct, yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:54

There's. You know, just by that picture alone tells you everything you need to know. And yeah, no, but I agree with you, Clay. I can't fathom why they did that, why they thought that that was a good idea.

Speaker 2: 57:08

Find somebody else Like I'm not kidding, like NATO nation is the safest place to go. Go someplace in Europe, go, you know. If you really want to strike Westerners and all that other stuff, like that's the place to be. Russia is not it Like I don't you know, and this is one of those like Putin's going to be like listen, I got enough going on in Ukraine, I don't have time to make this clean and just go in there and just kill a bunch of them and be done with it and send a message like this is going to be done mafia style. I'm telling you this is going to get nasty. Yeah, I don't understand the strategic, you know um thought process from isis k to attack moscow all friggin places yeah, and, and they, they took credit for it.

Speaker 1: 57:46

Um, so it's not like you know. It's not like they're like hey, I don't know what happened, they went rogue.

Speaker 2: 57:52

These are not, they're like no, no, no, that was us. Yeah, that was us. We did that, like you're an idiot. I mean.

Speaker 1: 57:58

Holy cow Talk about really bad idea. Yeah, yeah. So, um, you know, I mean, if there is some kind of master plan there on their part, we've certainly yet to see what that was, and it's not going to fare well for them at all at all.

Speaker 2: 58:15

Not even a little, which is fine. Good, let them deal with it.

Speaker 1: 58:18

Absolutely, then we don't have to.

Speaker 2: 58:20

Somebody else can deal with it Absolutely, and they'll put. They'll put the hammer down, that's for sure.

Speaker 1: 58:24

They sure will. They the hammer down, that's for sure. They sure will. They sure will. Oh, my goodness, what will next week bring? It almost gives me a little anxiety, clay, like I mean, as if this stuff wasn't crazy enough. What's the what's the rest of the week going to bring? Oh well, whatever it is, yep, whatever it brings, we will share it with you. We will try and fuse a few laughs in there here and there, so we don't all curl up in the corner sucking our thumbs. Oh man, oh man. Well, it was great to be back again sitting down chatting with my buddy, clay.

Speaker 1: 59:03

We will, you know, listen. We always tell you the same thing every time we want to talk to you in the comments. We want to hear from you. We want your thoughts, we want your ideas, we want your suggestions. You know, listen, we always tell you the same thing every time we want to talk to you in the comments. We want to hear from you. We want your thoughts, we want your ideas, we want your suggestions, your opinions. The whole darn works. We love it. We love it. Clay, what would you like to send these people off with tonight?

Speaker 2: 59:19

First of all, thank you and I'm so happy that you're back. I love having you back. You said the banter is the best part, at least for me, but I appreciate everybody tolerating me for two weeks in Elsa's absence. It was a lot of fun, but I know we all like having her back. And, yeah, please comment, find us on the socials, reach out to us, email. You know her or me, it doesn't matter, we'll get to you. And, as always for me, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 1: 59:45

I love it. All right, guys, take it easy. We'll see you next week. Bye.