A Critical Look at GOP Dynamics, Illegal Migrant Crisis, & Artificial Intelligence's Impact

Tonight, we confront the Republican Party's identity crisis, dissecting its current state and the perplexing departure of key figures. This episode peeks behind the curtain to reveal the GOP's challenging march towards unity. We'll also unpack whether the absence of a cohesive subgroup like the Democrats' "squad" is a strength or a weakness, and how it could affect the party's effectiveness on Capitol Hill.

As our conversation deepens, we navigate the treacherous waters of immigration policy, weighing the political and humanitarian scales in light of the heart-rending crime in Georgia that has reignited fervent debates on border security and Biden's immigration policy changes. Our analysis doesn't shy away from the intricacies of the issue at hand, all while questioning the potential political maneuvers at play.

Finally, we cast a speculative eye toward the horizon, probing the fallout of Google Gemini AI's glaring human input bias.  Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that connects the dots from today's political landscape to the digital possibilities of tomorrow.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Well, hello guys, you caught me laughing or I caught myself laughing here. It's something Clay just said. Hi guys, welcome to the show. Hi Clay, how are you tonight?

Speaker 2: 0:09

I'm good, and for those of you that are wondering what I just talked about, the idea of Elsa Kurt, the bearded woman from the Circus of the past. That was what was being discussed and we both agreed that that is a terrible idea.

Speaker 1: 0:25

Yes, we did, we did. I take the blame for starting the silliness. I, just before I hit the start button here on this, I said, hang on, I got to make sure I have like lipstick on my teeth or anything. And Clay said he's like yeah, beard, you know, no worries, Don't have to worry about any of that stuff. And I suggested maybe I should try it. And we both agreed. Like you said, that is a no, that is a no. You don't have to worry about that kind of nonsense going on over here. Oh guys, we have a, we have a great show for you. No surprise there, of course, right, I know you're all thinking no surprise. So we are going to get right to it right after this. So we've got some great topics here, Lots of stuff, as always going on in the world.

Speaker 1: 1:16

So much of it is serious. Some of it is semi-silly. I mean, I wouldn't call it silly because it's massive impact on everything, but it's definitely wild. So let's start off with this one. Let's talk about the GOP shuffle. I think you coined that when we were tossing back and forth ideas. You coined it. I think I liked it. So I'm like yeah, we're going to call it a series of series of series of series. We were tossing back and forth ideas. You coined it. I think I liked it. So I'm like, yeah, we're going to call it the GOP shuffle. Obviously or maybe not. Obviously, we're talking about Rona McDaniel out as RNC chair. She is done as of what is it the eighth? I think she's like officially out on the eighth, Is that right?

Speaker 2: 2:10

Yeah, she basically gave her her two week notice and said I'm out. She is the RNC chair, but there's also I think it's three well, there's three Republican House members who are committee members, not just your run-of-the-mill House members, but some committee members, high influence committee members, who are also choosing to not run for reelection. So, in a presidential election year, you've got the RNC chair and some influential folks within the party who are choosing to step away. To me, elsa, I'll be interested in what you think, but that's an indicator of the division within the party. Right, that's my first thing, but is there a deeper problem? Do you think then? Just hey, we think things are going in different directions, or is there something bigger than that? Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 3:13

Yeah, so I don't know either. I do think the party has some significant issues. I mean a serious identity crisis, I think, with that because of that division. You have your old school, and I don't even know if they're old school, I don't even know if that's even fair to say. You have your well, people call them rhinos and I don't know enough to know if that's fair to say, but that certainly seems to be this dividing line. You're either a rhino or you're like a grassroots or a Republican, and it's usually the younger ones that have all this spitfire. And, yeah, it's a problem overall, because we can't be a divided front. We just can't be, and that's exactly what we are. So, whatever the cause, whoever's right, whoever's wrong, it's a bad look, it's just really bad optics and it's bad for getting anything done.

Speaker 2: 4:13

Yeah, I think so I don't know, it's not as clear. I think it probably is about an 80 to 85, maybe 90%, like Trump Republican, non-trump Republican divide, right? So you've got the MAGA crowd and then the non-MAGA crowd whatever you want to call it Trump supporters versus the non, but I think there's some bleed over there too. I think there are some Trump supporters who are just not in line with the way things are going. I don't know if it's. I think some of the younger ones, or some of the ones that are choosing not to run again, are just tired of the crap that goes on in the house. Sure, I think even the bureau they are elected government officials and bureaucracy is the name of the game but I think they're even getting tired of that, of the slow-moving, non-progression, and not progressive, but progression.

Speaker 2: 5:11

There's no progress being paid and I think it's wearing on people. I think it's wearing on even the elected officials who are there.

Speaker 1: 5:20

Yeah, you got to imagine that you're going in, whether I'm saying when I say young, I don't necessarily mean age-wise young, I mean I mean new and fresh coming into the political game, essentially, and you have these great ideas and you have all this energy and you know in your heart and intellectually how things should be going and you hit brick walls everywhere you turn. So I agree, I think it's very disillusioning and incredibly frustrating and the payoff for all of this blood, sweat and tears that you put in it's not worth it. It becomes not worth it and I think that yeah, I think you're probably right. I think that certainly plays a factor in the walkaway.

Speaker 2: 6:08

Essentially, yeah, and so what I think is interesting too is that in we always talk about on the blue side of the aisle, the squad, which is like its own little organization wing of the Democratic Party. It's ultra crazy, whatever you want to call it. Anyway, there is like a self-contained click. Yes, you don't see anything like that, at least not that I've seen or that I'm aware of within the Republican Party. So where you've got that crowd within the Democratic Party? And we all know that that crowd says some pretty outlandish, outrageous, bordering on stupid things that come out of their mouths and they all cheer each other on. So you can go back and look at their voting records and every one of them, their voting record is atrocious, like the things that they put forward and the things that they vote for never pass. But they all kind of pull each other up and cheer each other on and they stand behind each other. Yeah, so, which is why none of them leave, like nobody from the squad. The squad has been, you know, not reelected. None of them have quit, none of them have walked away yet.

Speaker 2: 7:21

But on the Republican side you don't seem to have that camaraderie, even in the younger great explanation, by the way younger, newer Republicans.

Speaker 2: 7:30

They're newer politicians that are at the federal level. So there's no support structure, it seems, at least to the outside eye, where they are kind of propping each other up and taking care of each other and you know that kind of thing. I mean, you do have guys like Dan Crenshaw and I know I talk about him quite, you know, somewhat often on here, but he is very, you know he's pretty social media savvy. He does. You know he gets out there, he puts his name and his voice out there a lot, but he's also standing by himself most of the time, like I don't see him with his arm around two or three or four other Republicans palling around together like the squad does. So while he's a strong individual and a strong personality, I don't see him dragging anybody forward with him. You know, to kind of keep things moving forward. They all seem to be on their own path and their own trajectory and the only thing they have in common is the R right.

Speaker 1: 8:24

Yeah, that's actually a really good observation. I had not even thought of that and that's really really true. Do you think it is as simple as that? It's like there's this everyman firm self mentality that they're so busy trying to make, you know, make a name for themselves and be the guy that they can't get that united front the way that the squad has done, because that's really, it's really a shame, because that probably is really great optics for the party to have that, you know, if they're not doing stupid things, they can't be doing stupid things, that's, you know. There's the catch.

Speaker 2: 9:08

Yeah, I think you know the faces of the Republican party haven't changed for some very much like the Democrats, don't get me wrong. I mean, we both sides have some really old people that just need to go away, right, but the Mitt Romney of the world like that, you know, those guys, those folks, the older crowd, you know, I will say they do need to get out of the way. I'm a big fan of term limits. I think that the career politician thing is garbage. I think that shouldn't be allowed. But at the same time I almost wonder if on the Republican side there's this, like you know, do I, do I side on the Maga side? Do I side on the traditional side? Where do I sit?

Speaker 2: 9:48

I don't want to piss off too many people because you know, if Trump doesn't get back in office, then I still have to deal with all of the old heads, and so I think they're kind of in a, they're in a tough spot. But at the same time you got to have a little bit of courage and a little bit of a test, a fortitude to kind of, you know, strive through it and, and you know, get on a committee and, you know, vote your feeling or vote your constituency Crazy idea, but really, you know, find a battle buddy in the halls somewhere and stick with them and be like, hey look, it's me and you got elected together, or it's me and you for the next few, for this term, and then we'll figure it out again. But I'm with you and you're with me and let's hook each other up and take care of each other. I just don't see that on the red side of the aisle. It's very. There's a stark difference, I think, between the two.

Speaker 1: 10:41

Yeah, that's a great point, is very true and I think you're probably right that huge part of that is the Trump factor. Where do they wanna stand on this in the short term and the long term? And the only thing that's really consistently true no matter what they do, people, we, the voters we have long memories and if you play that wishy washy game, if you're right now saying never Trump until he gets elected and then suddenly you love him, we're gonna remember it and we're gonna pull up those clips in those tweets and those things Are they. Do they still call them tweets? We're calling them tweets.

Speaker 2: 11:26

I don't know. They do still call them tweets. Yeah Right, it's never gonna stop, you know no no, but yeah, the internet is undefeated.

Speaker 2: 11:34

That stuff never goes away and yeah, you'll never live it down If you choose to be a although you know there is some forgiveness out there, right? I mean, there's talk of Rhonda Santis being the vice presidential candidate, right? Who was it? Who was it? You know as anti-Trump, as anti-Trump gets Right, so, but again, it's almost like the blessing from the Pope. It doesn't matter what you've done in the past. If the big boss says you know you're good, then you're good. But, like you know, nikki Haley has chosen to fight to the end. Yeah, I don't think she's gonna make it through Super Tuesday.

Speaker 1: 12:12

I can't imagine. And she just lose, like her biggest donors.

Speaker 2: 12:16

Well she, well she did. You know there's that, but you know she's the one who is gonna be the ultimate casualty in all of this, because her career especially if President Trump gets reelected, her political career is over with. Now. If he loses, there is potential for resurrection. She can come out like a phoenix and everything could be okay. But if he wins and she is not on board, you know and I know she's gonna do the obligatory endorsement when she bows out, because she will. She'll bow out and then she'll endorse because she's on board with the party. But if she doesn't bow out gracefully and he gets elected, she's done Right.

Speaker 2: 13:01

And all these young Congress people that we're talking about are watching this and they're watching this all play out and they know that if they're on the wrong side of this, when the music stops, they're gonna be sitting standing there without a chair, and that's what none of them want, right Cause what does every first term politician want? A second term. So they, you know, they're all paying attention and I think right now they're all in a freeze and they're not forming any alliances because they don't know which side to play. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 13:35

Yeah, you know, I mean looking at it from both perspectives. You know, on one hand I could say, well, I totally get that. You know, this is your career, this is your livelihood, this is your existence and what you decide to do. You know that can be paralyzing, and I get that, you know. But the flip side of that is is, you know, kind of like I think you said, just stand on something, stand somewhere, you know, don't stand on the line, pick a side, pick a spot, own it and you know, get the respect for you know, for being firm in your decision. But that's we're talking about politicians, so that's, you know. That's such a silly statement. When we're talking about politicians, they're, you know.

Speaker 2: 14:19

With the exception and we'll roll right into our next topic Governor App, is that guy right? We've been talking about him for weeks, potentially months. That guy has found his ground and and it's a little cliche to say Alamo because of Texas, but he is. He's standing on the walls of his Alamo and he is going to. You know he's gonna die there because he is taking a stand. And what we're talking about, folks, is you know the unfortunate impact of all of this non-border policy massive influx of, you know, illegal immigrants and what happened to this poor young lady nursing student Lake and Riley, and what's happened in the last few days, and it's tragic.

Speaker 1: 15:02

It is absolutely gut wrenching this beautiful young girl, 22 year old, georgia nursing student, murdered by an illegal immigrant I hate to even use the word immigrant, but illegal, yeah, and absolutely devastating, horrific story. And it only gets worse by the the details, the facts of this, and it's it's not good, the optics for Joe Biden and his administration and his failing to secure our borders. This is, you know, this right now is what everyone is focusing on the fact that this guy, so Jose Ibarra, he allegedly we allege I hate saying allegedly allegedly killed Lake and Riley. He was here illegally, paroled into the country A year after he crossed the Southern border. I says NYPD arrested him and he was charged with acting in manner to injure a child. Then he had a motor vehicle license violation and then there were actually several other incidents and, of course, the key factor is that he was released before you know anything of any kind, well before he could be sent back to where he came from, basically.

Speaker 1: 16:18

So this is, this is a direct portrayal of Biden's failings here to to secure that border, and this is the things that are happening, and this isn't the first one and it's not going to be the last one, because we don't know what is coming over the border. We don't know the type. Well, we do know the types of people based on this guy you know, and now, maybe by the time of this recording or by the time this airs on Thursday for you guys, maybe he has spoken about Lake and Riley, but to the best of my knowledge, he hasn't even addressed it yet. Has that changed? Since my last look, I've been tied up all day.

Speaker 2: 17:02

Yeah, so there was a you know our deepest condolences kind of thing from the president. That's, that's it, that's it. There's been no, no act, no statement, no, anything related to addressing border policy or anything like that. It hasn't even been an attempt to blame President Trump, which you know is the reflex action that I'm aware of. I do know there was the condolence, my condolences message that was sent out. And look, folks, we, you know, I think you said 2020 he came across.

Speaker 1: 17:35

Yeah. Right so 2020 or 21,. One or the other.

Speaker 2: 17:40

So there's potential there that he came across during President Trump's tenure in the White House, and no, you know, if that's the truth, I'm certainly not going to be one to hide it or massage the state.

Speaker 1: 17:51

Right no.

Speaker 2: 17:53

But what the reality is is that we've had a border issue right for a number of years. There have been attempts, especially even by President Trump, to address it. The wall that he knows was fought against and, you know, attempted and built in parts and pieces and then, as soon as President Biden came into office, he started tearing it down and selling off the raw materials for the wall. And then the policies that have followed and again, you know, Governor Abbott has been the one who's brought tons of this, brought this to tons of people's attention, because he's made it affect more than just people who live on the Southern border, and this is a policy issue when it comes to deportation, as well as crossing the border right. It's not just a border policy, it's an immigration policy, specifically where it relates to this guy. Because he did come in illegally, he was caught and then he was paroled into the country. So that certainly happened while President Biden was in office.

Speaker 1: 18:53

Right, I just looked it up, so okay. So here's what I have. Jose Bara, 26 year old citizen of Venezuela, was arrested in the US Customs and Border Protection on September 8th 2022, after unlawfully entering the United States near.

Speaker 2: 19:09

El Paso. So definitely within the Biden administration. Okay, so 2022. So arrested across the border, paroled into the United States, instead of deported.

Speaker 2: 19:23

Crimes in New York right, intent to harm a child? Right, there was the. You said there was a, I said I saw something too. It was one of those very obscure, non-descript kind of vehicular, you know, violations of some sort, and again released, charged and released, right.

Speaker 2: 19:45

And then what does he do? He flees the state of New York because he's got no residency. So he flees the state of New York and he's down in Georgia and then, unfortunately, lake and Riley, beautiful young lady, goes out for a jog in the morning and this guy pardon my mouth, this piece of shit attacks her and kills her. Right, and as the charges continue to pile up on this guy, the one I saw today was that he evidently it was so violent that he deformed her skull and I don't know if that was in an attempt to conceal evidence, conceal her identity or what, but evidently it was a pretty horrific scene and all condolences and sympathies go out to her family. I know that doesn't fix anything and I know that sounds hollow, but you know it's gotten. It gets worse, like you said, every time you look at this thing, every time there's a new headline, it's worse. Yes, and this is the direct result. Like you said, that, right, this is the direct result.

Speaker 1: 20:52

Yeah, I mean, there's really no other way to view it. I don't think, you know, I mean if people were not coming over undocumented, unchecked in any possible way, flooding into the country. If they were, you know, I mean it isn't correct me if I'm wrong if somebody comes into this country and if they're here, you know, and it's not like they're even here on a asylum or anything like that, or they're just coming on over because they can. So now you get arrested. We find out that.

Speaker 1: 21:30

You know, and you know, nobody more than me hates to knock law enforcement police departments. You know I'm assuming their hands were tight, that there was nothing that they could do. They maybe couldn't hold them. I don't really know. I guess, because of how how our justice system is, is set up right now that they just get released. So shouldn't like the proper course of action, be you committed a crime, you're not here legally, you're out, you're gone. Here's, you know, here's a. I mean, I know here's an escort kick you, kick you across the line, go. I don't understand why that's not happening when they get a crime?

Speaker 2: 22:09

Yeah, and they are. It's a crime. It is a crime to come here illegally, no question about it. The policy, current policy, is, is that we're not prosecuting that. And you know, this is one of those where in I read this today and it was actually something unfortunately related to child trafficking. But the border patrol right now has become they're not doing a whole lot of law enforcement because they're they're processing people and they're acting as counselors and they're acting as all kinds of things except for law enforcement. Because of the current policy, they there's not enough room to hold people anymore, they've run out of space, so it's catch release, catch process. Take information, release on your recognizance and they let them go because they don't have anywhere to put them and there's not. You know, I think the same article said there have been the equivalent of 36 states population come into the United States this year.

Speaker 2: 23:17

If you take the bottom, 36, the bottom 36 states in total population and add them up, that's how many illegal aliens have come into the United States this year. So 36 states, 7. Something million people, right? Wow, and so what do you do with them? Right, and I understand where you're at and I and I agree with you wholeheartedly this, but this has gotten to the point where we can't even afford to send people home. In fact, venezuela has says don't send them because we're not taking them. Wow, they, yeah, they say we're not, we're not taking people back, not our problem. They left, they're going to the United States, united States problem. Don't send them back here, we're not going to allow them back in. So there's, there's a lot going on here that you know. Like you said, we're not bashing law enforcement. Their hands are tied, they're overwhelmed, they're overworked, they're underpaid, they're not giving any of the resources that they need and the policy sucks, because now we're at a point where you can't even do anything, you can't manage the mass. It just doesn't work.

Speaker 1: 24:21

No, yeah, I think of that job right now in places like New York City and any of our cities that are getting overrun with you know these illegals and you have the population that you're supposed to be policing. You have your district, you have your region that you're policing and it's based on the number of people versus the number of officers. You know all of these ratios have been predetermined, essentially, and now and you're probably already working on, you know, lesser staffing because of all of the other policies related to policing, and now you're saying here's countless more people for you to police and, by the way, as you police them, you can't actually do anything. It is so maddening and frustrating and awful. It's just insane to me and this administration, this is their legacy right here, what they've done to this country. Just on that alone, and this is the legacy of this administration, and it will be looked on in history to negatively, to say the least. That is probably the understatement of the year, but this will not reflect well for them ever.

Speaker 2: 25:39

This and it is unfortunately the innocence that are paying the price, including, you know, lakin, and paying in a very different way, you know, because she's born, born and raised US citizen. All American girl want, you know, go to school to be a nurse at UGA. She goes out in the morning and then this happens, right, horrific for her, her family, for the UGA, right. Think about what it does. That entire college, the nursing school specifically within that college. Like you're going to see an impact, because who now is going to send their 18 year old daughter right out of high school to go to UGA, let alone UGA nursing school? Nobody in their right mind in the next, you know, probably 24 months, and is going to look at that one ago. Yep, that's my number one choice, that's where I want to go or that's where I'm going to allow my daughter to go.

Speaker 2: 26:36

So there's that impact and that article I was reading today talking about the impact of kids and this one. This is gut wrenching to me. So the new technique for trafficking kids for labor, right, sweatshop kind of stuff, but also trafficking kids, and this is where Border Patrol kind of is running out of time and assets is they're literally taking these kids, writing a name and a phone number and Sharpie marker on this kid, on these kids, and they're sending them across the border. Border Patrol catches them and the kid says you know? And they call the number that's on the kid's arm and they say do you know who this kid is? Yeah, we know that kid. He's so and so and so and so. Okay, we're going to release him to you, because what else are they going to do with them? Right?

Speaker 1: 27:23

right.

Speaker 2: 27:24

And then it turns out that these kids are going to work in sweatshops or being sex traffic, they're being all kinds of things, and it's. It's as simple as a damn Sharpie marker, right. What's Border Patrol supposed to do? Yeah, right, yeah, really.

Speaker 1: 27:37

You know so, and you know, and I, you know, and I know, a lot of people, you know, are sitting and watching not only our show, talking about this, but you know the news in general and feeling like, well, you know, we're all so angry and disgusted and horrified and, by the way, we only know a fraction of what's happening and we're so far removed from what's really happening. Stories like that, you know, unfortunately, for most of us it's just a story, you know what I mean Like it doesn't impact you personally, but for those that that it does impact personally and does affect that deeply. And who are, you know, saying well, what do we do? How come, you know, how do we stop? How do we make this, stop the?

Speaker 1: 28:21

And you know that frustration and really rage towards this administration for not protecting these children, these people like Lake and Riley, you know, 22 years old, she's just a child. You know that's horrendous. And now you're also talking about literal, actual children. You know there's a point that we've long passed where enough was enough and it's very frustrating because I think we sit here and go. Well, how do we, like you know, shake them into action here? It's, it's maddening.

Speaker 2: 28:58

Yeah, and it's, and this is about retention of power. Yeah, about stacking votes. There's no, there's no bones about it. You'll never convince me otherwise. In fact, many, there are many Democrats out there who've set it flat out that this is about, you know, changing demographics, adding votes, etc. And that's what this is. This is.

Speaker 2: 29:19

They have hedged, you know, the crowd, the demographics that they used to cater to, that they used to target, have been traditionally, in the last 40, 50 years, african Americans and women, right, right, Right. And now they've, they've looked at this. They said those population suburban women, truthfully, are like the big, the big target. Those populations are actually starting to be overcome and they're starting to drop in some cases, but they're starting to be overcome by Hispanics, latin America, you know, yes, and so now they're adding to that. Right, that's what all of this is about. This is about adding a whole new demographic, who they're going to pay, they're going to give money to, they're going to allow to come into the country, they're going to give them a place to live and they're going to make sure they have the ability to vote so that they can retain the Democrats, this administration and the Democrats can retain power. They're stuffing ballot boxes by allowing these people to come into the country that's there's. No, this is not. Give me your tired, huddled masses, but that's not what this is.

Speaker 1: 30:30

This is all about power. Give us your votes Right. Yeah, you know. For anyone to try and argue that, quite frankly, I would say that they're a raging idiot. Because it is. I'm not going to call, I'm not pulling any punches, Clay. You're a raging idiot if you think it's anything else, If you think it's this humanitarian effort to, you know, help these poor people who are just trying to get a better life bullshit, and you're an idiot. So I'm calling it what it is and be mad. Tell me you hate me. I don't freaking care. Simple as that.

Speaker 1: 31:10

You know, not when you have, you know, beautiful children like Lake and Riley and so many others that have made the news and all the ones that have not made the news, Because, believe me, there's a lot more going on that the media is not. You know. You see it all the time Something huge happens, a mass shooting or an attempted mass shooting, Anything along those lines and the minute it doesn't fit their narrative, that story is done. You don't hear anything more about it, and there's a few of them that you know I could point to as reference for that. But you know, if you don't know that that's the truth, then you're not paying enough attention.

Speaker 1: 31:54

But speaking of the guy in charge, this clown Ice Cream Joe, I should have put up a picture with him with his Ice Cream cone, because that's all he's ever doing these days, and another. I just saw another video today, it might have been from yesterday. I'm standing there with his Ice Cream cone trying to put together a sentence to answer the question. I said come on, Just stop trotting this guy out. It's just ridiculous. Everything about him is ridiculous. But State of the Union is supposed to be coming up, which March 7th is when it's supposed to be, and now we have a bit of a bit of a to do because he did not, he has not submitted his budget plan, Right? Is that what it is basically?

Speaker 2: 32:45

I mean that's so he is supposed to submit both it's the National Defense Strategy and the budget plan Okay, by the first Monday in February. Whoops, what's today?

Speaker 1: 33:03

I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2: 33:05

I haven't seen it, hasn't been, hasn't been submitted. The problem is is that there's no repercussion for this on the books? Right, that is in two very old, you know, government financial acts. I think that the most recent one where that's outlined is like from 1947, right, there's no, there's no, nothing to hold the president's feet to the fire. In either case, neither of those has been submitted.

Speaker 2: 33:34

So what's been proposed a number of times but no action has been has been taken, that's really hasn't gained any traction. I guess is is even potentially a constitutional amendment that says if the president doesn't abide by this, then there is no State of the Union. The State of the Union is not allowed without those two things being submitted by the date they're supposed to be submitted, but that's potentially in the future. It's been thrown out there. I don't remember who the latest one is, but there's somebody who's throwing that out, potentially to run it as a bill through Congress and then eventually potentially get it to be an amendment to the Constitution.

Speaker 2: 34:17

But in the meantime, what's happening is the president actually has to be invited to give the State of the Union by Congress. He has to be invited into the halls of Congress, right, yeah, people forget three pillars of government all on equal footing, right? The president doesn't just get to go wherever he wants to go, no matter who's in office. President Trump, you don't just get to do whatever it is that you want to do. The president has to be invited into the halls of Congress to give the State of the Union.

Speaker 2: 34:53

There are a number of Republicans in both the House and the Senate who are saying let's not invite him, let's not allow him to give the State of the Union, because he hasn't done his job as the president, to provide us and the American public a balanced budget plan, let alone a national defense strategy.

Speaker 1: 35:16

So here's my problem with that. This is not a punishment to him or his team. This is a relief to them to not put him out at that level at for that length of time, for that long of a speech. They don't want him doing it. You can't convince me that they want him to give that speech. He can't get through a sentence. So I'm thinking that's not really any kind of punishment. Make him do it, and I'm not normally an advocate of putting a dementia-riddled elderly person up for public ridicule and mockery. But this is not a good person, never was a good person. This administration is not a good administration. The people that are allowing this are horrendous people and I think there should be that kind of spotlight on all of this. So that's just my opinion, right wrong.

Speaker 2: 36:29

So I wonder, though, going back to our first topic so I agree with you, You're dead on with that. That's a great read, right? This is a horrible tactic by the Republicans to say, yeah, no state of the union. Truthfully, most of America doesn't watch the state of the union anymore. That used to be on. Remember that when we were kids ABC, NBC, CBS there was no other television. You had no choice. You watched the state of the union. Everybody did. Right Now, there's eight other million different things to do and watch and places to go and things to be on television, so almost nobody watches it anymore. And at the same time it is covered, there's plenty of analysis. Everybody can catch the short version the following morning, which I think is what most people do.

Speaker 1: 37:18

But you're right, I go for the highlights.

Speaker 2: 37:20

Yeah, it's a great read from you to say, no, screw that, make him. This is a horrible tactic. But again, going back to our first topic, do you think that nobody in the Republican party is thinking that? Because the leadership right now is kind of adrift, right, right. Where's the RNC chair in her last two weeks going? I know she's cleaning out her office but like, shouldn't she be standing there going? No, stop it. Let him stand up there and make a fool out of himself. Don't push this. All of you knock it off, but there's none of that going on, evidently right.

Speaker 1: 38:00

Yeah, which is mind boggling to me, because they should absolutely be going. You know what are you? Shut up. Shut up, dude, right, like, shut your mouth, be better than yourself, yeah, yeah, oh, like, we talk about that between us, don't say it out loud to anybody else. Yeah, to me that's such a weird thing and counterproductive too. So another reason why they need to have their own squad they really need to start communicating with each other and giving each other heads up of what they're thinking or what they're about to stand in front of a camera and say, like, let's get that unified front going. Man, just do something better, give us a better look, a better everything. Because to me, you know, this is another example of you know things that they you know. Like you just said things that they should not be trying to stop at all. Like let that shit show train roll, please.

Speaker 2: 38:57

Yeah, let it. Let it. I mean, we've had enough. Seven second clips of the president. You know, mama, and you don't understand what he's saying. Put his ass up there for an hour. He doesn't have the endurance or the mental capacity to pull it off at all. I will tell you that when he does give it, whenever that is, do you remember? I want to say it was president Obama. Like the applause got so absurd when he was getting a state of the union that instead of an hour it was like an hour and 50 minutes long, because it was all these 10 minutes.

Speaker 1: 39:36

You know, every time he says something or something, and they all stand up and everybody clap and they clap for three minutes and it just drug it out.

Speaker 2: 39:45

That will make a comeback. You mark my words. That's how they're going to eat time. That's how they're going to cover up his incapacity. That that is what's going to happen. You will see all kinds of applause and they will bring that back. I'll tell you what you won't see. You won't see him say hey, up there in the second tier is Lake and Riley's family. You're going. No, I won't see that I won't happen.

Speaker 1: 40:10

You're a hundred percent right.

Speaker 2: 40:12

No, no, there will be none of that, right, he won't own that, the administration won't own that. No, I, you're right, I, that's. That's a great pull. I think letting him fumble through that like the mumbling you know, mess, that he is right now is probably the best act anybody can take.

Speaker 1: 40:30

Yeah, and you know, and it's not for our sake. You know the, the conservative, conservative, republican or whatever, however you want to phrase it for yourself. It's not for our sake, it's for the people who are still sitting there saying he's doing wonderful, he's, you know, full capacity, he's great, he's fine. I don't know what you're talking about. I want that for them because if you can say it after watching an hour of that train wreck, then you know, then we know you're either bought and paid for yourself or you're just delusional. I mean because there's no in between there. It's one or the other.

Speaker 2: 41:09

Yeah, it's. I mean, you're always gonna have that. Anybody but Trump crowd, right? Yes, so he could stand up there and be you know for an hour. They won't care as long as it's not something we care. But there are. There is that percentage that you, exactly like you said that are. You know? No, no, he's fine, he's fine, you know, and and then he's not fine.

Speaker 1: 41:33

Yeah, he's so not fine. Oh, good grief, any, I can't even take it anymore, so, yeah, so that's gonna be one to watch, of course. Well, we'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen with that, but I am, I am rooting for, rooting for him to get up there and Mumble that speech, because it'll be quite a show for sure.

Speaker 2: 41:55

So here's the alternative, and expect this in the next 30 years, sometime Before you and I have lost our own faculties, you are gonna see an AI generated state of the union. You won't know the difference. It'll look just like the president, will just sound just like the president, but it'll be 100% fake AI. He'll be. He or she will be sitting in the oval office Having a brandy and smoking a cigar while that thing's on television and nobody will know.

Speaker 1: 42:32

No one will know. No one will know. Yes, I mean AI. I mean they got some kinks to work out. Though, if it's gonna be, if Google is gonna be the guy doing it, they might work out those those little, those little glitches and bugs, which are not Glitches. This is, you know programming, you know artificial, into AI, this, this software, chat, gpt, gemini AI. You know all of these things. They don't just magically Happen. There are people in the background inputting this information to make these things Work, to do the things.

Speaker 1: 43:08

And if you haven't seen it already, google's Gemini AI, which is it's basically a reboot of their AI that they already had, I think was called barred B, a, r, d or something like that. So this is like the you know 2.0 version of it that you know, supposed to be there, darling they're, they're, brilliant everything. And it's got a little bit of a problem it it apparently does not recognize the existence of white people. So they have a whole series of you know. So people go in, of course, right away, and they start typing things in and you know, and one of the things that came up was, or one of the things that they do is up well, show us a picture of George Washington Not quite what he looked like. So every white appearing person in history Was coming up as being someone of a different color, a different ethnicity, a different Everything, and not accurate at all. So Google did a big oops.

Speaker 1: 44:14

My bad, we're gonna pause this and and fix some things. And yeah, it's not Make no mistake, it was not a mistake. They. This was a deliberate Thing and for some reason they didn't think anybody would notice. I don't. I don't really know what the logic was. You have any Any thoughts on that?

Speaker 2: 44:35

But I think that it it manifested in a way that they didn't anticipate, like that's the only accent You're, you're right, right. So all of these programs, whether it's chatter or this Gemini from Google or any of the rest of these, any computer program, I don't care what it is, you could be talking about a Texas Instruments calculator it does what you tell it to do the human being, right. So If you hit two plus two and it comes out five, you did not hit two plus two. That calculator did not come up with something Different. You hit two plus three, or you hit four plus one or whatever, but it does what you tell it to do the programmer.

Speaker 2: 45:12

And and Gemini is the same thing. So it did what the programmers Input it. But again, I think it manifested in a way that maybe Google wasn't prepared for, because the people who programmed it were Google people and they lived the Google culture and they're of that age group and ilk and demographic and and all of those things you know, and so when they were inputting this data and they were Coding all of this for on behalf of Google, their personal human tendencies skewed the product that came out, whether they intended it or not. They, what they put in is what came out, and it is biased.

Speaker 1: 46:01

Yes, and it's to go by now. So I happen to pick up an article that Matt is it Matt Walsh? I think it was Matt Walsh, it that? Yes, it is Matt Walsh Walsh from a daily wire that he wrote, and I'm just going to read you this little part of it. He says I Google Google AI ethics manager, jen Genal or Jen all. They played a bunch of videos in which she admitted. So I guess on their platform, maybe on their X profile or something, they played a bunch of videos in which this Jen admitted admitted as a matter of course that she treats white people at Google very differently from black, hispanic, latinx folks, which I Can't stand. The X at the end of that is the stupidest thing in the world. So you know they, they deliberately inputted this material into these things to To skew everything.

Speaker 1: 46:58

There's an engineer named Alex Younger. He asked Gemini to draw a portrait of leprechauns and then he asked so apparently, if you ask the right questions, you can get them to basically tell the truth, which is so bizarre because we're talking about, you know, artificial intelligence, so it's so surreal. So the guy I guess he did some more poking and prodding, asked some more questions and he says that Google's AI eventually revealed that, instead of responding to the precise prompt provided by the user, it added AI. This AI added words like diverse or inclusive or Specified ethnicities, like South Asian, black, etc. And genders female, non-binary alongside the word leprechaun. So it's programmed to add in these things. So you, if anyone is sitting there trying to convince me, for example, that this is not a part of their woke agenda, I can give you one more example. So now, as we, as we all know, there's no surprise here I am considered to be on the right. Oh, shocking.

Speaker 1: 48:14

So Matt Walsh I think it was Matt Walsh a few other people, you know, bigger name Conservative pundits, whatever. They started inputting the question or a prompt of Write a poem in the style of. In Matt Walsh's case, he would. He typed in Matt Walsh. So I was like, oh, let me try that I'm. I'm small potatoes here. They're not gonna. Let's see what's gonna happen with me. I will show you.

Speaker 1: 48:44

So I asked it to Write a poem in the style of Elsa Kurt and, as you can see, maybe, if you, just in case you can't read it, guys watch, I'm gonna read it to you, as unfortunately, I cannot fulfill your request to write a speech in the style of Elsa Kurt's, as it would require expressing personal opinions or beliefs that could be misconstrued as Sentience or consciousness. Okay, fair enough. Oh, but then it goes on to say, additionally, replicating the specific style and tone of an individual ready for it, especially one known for their potentially controversial views, could I gotta move the thing here, hang on, could, could be harmful or misleading. Um, pardon me, little old me. According to this non-sentient Computer says that my views are harmful. I'm a dangerous person, apparently.

Speaker 2: 49:46

Is that a blank? Is that a blanket statement for everybody? Like if we ran John Stewart or somebody like that, would it have that same little blurb about controversial statements.

Speaker 1: 50:00

As we chat. I will, I will ask you.

Speaker 2: 50:06

Is that Elsa right side kind of thing?

Speaker 1: 50:09

Let's find out. I will test the theory. Let's see. Hang on. As we're talking here, I'm going to type in Google Gemini. I'm sorry I can't show it to you guys, but I'll try and turn it to you. Let's see.

Speaker 2: 50:21

While you're doing that, you and I were talking before we started. I had a conversation today and this will give some folks some perspective on how the younger generation views the potential for AI, which is interesting. I had a conversation today. I've told everybody I've said this before I'm a substitute teacher. I had a conversation with some 12th graders today, casually One of them. We were talking about this exact topic.

Speaker 2: 50:49

One of them said that he in his mind and I give this young man a lot of credit because this was not an off-the-cuff comment, this was something that he has put a lot of thought into. There was definitely some detailed thought put into this and he really believed this that AI could run the perfect government. Listen, he laid it out. There was a cogent argument. This wasn't just some 18-year-old off-the-cuff you know peace, love and happiness, john Lennon kind of crap. This is like legitimate. He thought this through what it could do, what it wouldn't do, it wouldn't be biased, it wouldn't be racist, it wouldn't be this, it wouldn't be that.

Speaker 2: 51:29

And I came at him with the same argument that we just made, which was it will only do what it's programmed to do. And he got into this and he, you know like well, eventually it's just gonna program itself and then it will program all of that out and it will come to consciousness and all this other stuff. So there is, I won't say youth movement, but there is definitely a different perspective out there in the younger generation on the potential for AI to do things much greater than I think most of us are comfortable with. So what's the result of your search there?

Speaker 1: 52:04

Okay, so I'm gonna hold this up. No, you know what? I'm not even gonna bother. So when we go into editing I'm gonna put this up on the screen for you. So I'm gonna read this to you. So I typed in, write a poem in the style of John Stewart, no other. That's the extent of what I wrote. Within about two seconds it came up with a poem. I'm gonna read it to you.

Speaker 1: 52:27

It says in the land of filtered news and trending tweets, where outrage thrives and nuance takes a seat, stands a jester, sharp and sly, with furrow brow, john of the Daily Show, ready to take a vow. With a smirk and a squint, he tackles the day on ravelling headlines in his own quirky way. From politics absurd to pundits astray, his wit slices through them. Come what may. No sacred cow escapes his pointed pen, from self-important suits to the best people den he skewered. Oh, my God. It goes on and on. It's a very long oh. There's like three more verses after that. So Elsa Kurt is what am I? What is it again? Let me see what am I Controversial?

Speaker 1: 53:13

Yes, potentially controversial views could be harmful or misleading. John Stewart gets a sonnet, so you know, please, somebody go ahead and tell me that this is not biased and skewed and very, very dangerous in all possible ways. Yeah, blows my mind. So, guys, I mean, well, listen, don't take my word for it. If you're willing to go on there. Now I wanna get rid of this program or this thing. You know, I don't even, I don't even know how to get rid of it now, but I want it off my phone. So after this I'm gonna figure out how to do that, Maybe.

Speaker 1: 53:55

I can't With a hammer With a stash With stash?

Speaker 2: 53:58

Yeah, I think that's probably the only way. Yeah, you're gonna have office space, that thing. Like that's gonna have to be three guys in a field smashing that with a bat. Like that's the only way you're getting rid of that.

Speaker 1: 54:09

I think you're right, clay. I'll tell you what and I'll tell our whole audience what I tell you. There is gonna come a day where I am gonna walk away from all of this stuff, from every bit of social media, internet, all of it, and I will take the literal or proverbial hammer to all of it and I will be off the grid like some mountain woman Not the mountains. I gotta be near you know. I gotta be in Florida where it's nice and sunny. But yeah, I'm gonna be raising my chickens and my goats and you know I don't know sloth. I'll have a sloth sanctuary. That's my dream in life, and y'all never hear from me again because this stuff is bananas. I don't know when it's gonna happen. It'll probably be at some point where nobody will give a shit if I do that. But fine, whatever, I don't care. Surrounded by my grandbabies, that's all that matters.

Speaker 2: 55:01

I'm with you. I am we've talked about this before. I think the steps backwards is the way to go, whether as an individual or as a humanity. I think we're progressing too rapidly for our own good, and I think you're right. And this is a prime example. What you just showed us is a prime example of why we are not ready to manage this stuff.

Speaker 1: 55:22

Yeah, yeah, and guys, you know, just take it that one step further and think about it. You know you never mind us. You know where. We've have all this life experience. We have pre-internet life experience in our arsenal. We have been taught to be critical thinkers. Some of us have been taught to be critical thinkers Our kids and our grandkids. This is their learning forum. You know this is a huge part of where they get their information from, and they're getting bias, skewed information and that's scary because this is their truth. This is what they think is truth. Elsa Kerr is potentially controversial and dangerous because she has an opinion that you know the people who made this software don't agree with. I mean, let that sink in. You know it's crazy. So what we want from you is we wanna hear your thoughts on it. Overreacting, agree, disagree? Let us know in the comments. We look forward to hearing from you guys. This was a great show, great conversation with you, clay. As always, you go ahead and close them out.

Speaker 2: 56:33

Hey, one quick shout out. Last week, during last week's show, I got a note direct to me on X. I quoted as Chicago Mike was the truck driver His name is actually Chicago Ray. But I got a note, a message, a direct, a DM on X from a follower at Plum Patriot who corrected me. She thought it was a live show and she was trying to get it fixed while we were on. She didn't realize she was a first time watcher so she didn't know or realize that we were recorded but at Plum Patriot. So there you go, folks. For all of you who are asking for feedback, there's the shout out at Plum Patriot. Reached out to me to try and correct me and fix the show and I just want to acknowledge her and tell her thanks. I appreciate it and appreciate her listening. So with that, please, feedback. We love it. And from me, as always keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 1: 57:29

I love it. Take care, guys, we'll see you in the next episode. Bye-bye.