Presidential Fails, Global Impact, & Celebrity Spotlight

What happens when a half-century-old trade agreement between global powerhouses expires? In this episode of the Elsa Kurt Show, we sit down with Clay Novak to unravel the profound consequences of the 1974 US-Saudi Arabia oil agreement coming to an end. This pact, pivotal in anchoring the US dollar and cementing military and economic alliances, now leaves a void with potential for cryptocurrency and gold to rise in its place. Join us as we dissect the ramifications for international trade and express our concerns over the current administration's approach to this seismic shift.

Is the Biden administration projecting strength or signaling vulnerability on the world stage? We critically assess the administration's responses to international military threats and diplomatic challenges, pointing out moments that reveal a concerning lack of deterrence against foreign adversaries. From President Biden's public gaffes during key events to the administration's attempts to spin these missteps, we paint a vivid picture of how these actions—and inactions—impact America's global standing. We also touch on a remarkable clip of former President Obama humorously musing about a shadow presidency, probing its implications for the current administration's image.

Can President Biden hold his own against Trump in a head-to-head debate? We explore the high stakes of the upcoming presidential debate, questioning Biden's endurance and cognitive readiness for the grueling 90-minute showdown. We delve into the strategic elements of debate rules and speculate on Trump's game plan to leverage Biden's potential vulnerabilities. Wrapping up the episode, we tackle the contentious issue of cultural recognition months, debating whether they foster unity or sow division within society. With a nod to Morgan Freeman's perspective on collective history, we challenge listeners to rethink how we celebrate our shared heritage.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. Conservative views on world news Brought to you by the Wellness Company. Prepare for the unexpected and Refuge Medical, and now it's time for the show.

Speaker 3: 0:18

Well, good evening everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. We are excited to be here. How are you doing, clay?

Speaker 2: 0:28

I'm doing good. We've got a. This is a great lineup. This is a very kind of full spectrum. We're kind of all over the place tonight. I like it. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3: 0:39

Yeah, absolutely. All right, we're going to get right down to it right after this, so we have so much fun picking out topics. I think it's fun, probably because I make you do most of the heavy lifting for it.

Speaker 2: 1:06

I did a lot today. I threw in three, you came back with five, we settled on seven.

Speaker 3: 1:12

I think we're good, we did good, we did good, yeah, so, right off the top. And so I'm going to be honest with you about this one, and I don't think you or anyone else watching is going to be overly surprised when you propose this one. I went well, it doesn't sound very exciting, let me go see what that's all about. And I went oh, oh well, okay, we've got some implications here. Just, this might be a little bit of a big deal. So, um, so it is a big deal because, well, first of all, you're going to have to walk me through it anyhow, and maybe some other people. I know I'm not the only one that needs a little walking through. Let's talk about what went on here, why it's a big deal. It expired on the 9th, right, like it's already done.

Speaker 2: 1:52

Yes, yeah, it's gone, it's gone. Okay, so this is an agreement that was established in 1974. It's a 50-year agreement and on paper it was always a 50. We knew that the end date for this was coming, or at least a discussion for a renewal or whatever. So this didn't creep up on anybody and just pop in there and it's not a surprise.

Speaker 2: 2:12

So in 1974, the Saudi government agreed with the US government or was that in exchange for U S military supply, support, training, all of those things which has become relevant, oh, by the way, a couple of times in the last, you know, 35, 40 years. In exchange for that, they would mandate that any oil bought from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia was purchased with U S dollars, u S currency. Okay, so why does that matter? That matters because anybody who bought oil from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia had to have US dollars to do it with. So they in turn had to do some sort of business dealings with the US company or the US government or such and such. So it drove up international trade, international business, because all of it was being done with the US dollar so that they could buy Saudi oil.

Speaker 3: 3:11

That was the whole point which drives up our value right.

Speaker 2: 3:14

Value of the dollar globally right, not just us, not just locally globally right, yeah. And we had, and I know a lot of people who did some great advisory work and some educational work and some other things in Saudi Arabia for decades. I know guys who were doing it way back in the nineties and even guys who did a little bit before that. I'm not that old so I don't know guys back in the seventies but tons of training, professional education, equipment, fielding.

Speaker 2: 3:43

There has always been a great relationship between the US military and the Saudi military. And again in 1990, iraq invades Kuwait. We go into Saudi Arabia. They're side by side with us. We use them as a. You know, it's a launching pad for the invasion to, you know, free Kuwait and push the Iraqis back across the border. Fast forward 2003,. Same thing happens all over again. Yada, yada, blah, blah, blah, right. So militarily it's a great relationship, always has been.

Speaker 2: 4:11

Economically this was huge and now it's gone. So Saudi Arabia now can sell oil to anyone in the world using whatever currency they agree with and the expectation and this is I won't claim to ever be an economist, right, I've always been too poor to be an economist. But the introduction of crypto is the new twist in this. So the expectation is the two biggest currencies to replace the US dollar in purchasing of Saudi oil is cryptocurrency, in whatever form or fashion, whatever you know, because there's I don't know how many dozens of different cryptocurrencies Right, cryptocurrency and gold. So the potential for the gold, the value of gold, to go up is out there as well. So for you investors, maybe somebody can jump in the chat and give Elsa and I some investment advice, but I think, on the surface, watch the value of cryptocurrency and then watch the value of gold, because it's probably going to go up, so why would we let that expire?

Speaker 2: 5:22

Because our current administration sucks. Let that expire.

Speaker 3: 5:26

Uh, because our current administration sucks. That's okay. Yeah, I mean, that would have been, that would have been my guess, but I'm like, listen, maybe there's a good reason. It was silly of me to even hope that there would be a good reason. Um, have they and I haven't seen this and I'm sorry for not doing enough research on this. Have they released any kind of statement? Have they said anything about whatsoever?

Speaker 2: 5:47

No, I've seen absolutely nothing. It came. You know, there was some alarm bells that went off in the days and weeks leading up because people knew this was like I said, it's a 50-year-old agreement. It's been on the books for a long time. This was not a pop-up surprise, so people saw this coming.

Speaker 2: 6:06

The defense industry saw it coming because it affects them, right, the petroleum industry. Right, there's a lot of people that this had impact on, so they were all watching it, they all knew it was coming. There were a lot of alarm bells thrown out there and our administration did nothing, did nothing to try and talk to the Saudis to sway them to re-engage this. My personal opinion is, if we'd put forth any effort whatsoever to re-establish, renew, even renegotiate this with the Saudis in some fashion, I think we would have been successful. They're a great ally, have been for a long time, and I don't think it would have taken much effort to reinitiate this agreement. But the administration essentially did nothing of value to try and keep this on the books.

Speaker 3: 6:58

So there's no reason to think there would be some behind closed doors discussion that Saudi Arabia was like listen, we're, we're going to, we're going to decline, but we don't want to embarrass you publicly, so we'll, we'll let you like I mean, I don't know who that would benefit, like I don't understand how, in what way, this could benefit us. I don't. I guess it couldn't harm them really.

Speaker 2: 7:20

Any right this, change it them totally opens the market for them. Right, they can accept whatever agreeable currency they choose to. So if they're gonna, you know, if they're gonna sell to, you know, pick your, pick your country, um, they can use. You know russian rubles they can use.

Speaker 2: 7:38

You know drachmas they can use, I mean they use whatever they want, whatever that country is willing to pay them in, as long as they agree to it. It's, it's easy. This opens everything up for Saudi Arabia. It totally wrecks us. Well, I shouldn't say it wrecks us, but it's going to have a significant impact on the dollar, the value of the dollar globally, the US dollar Right.

Speaker 3: 8:01

But you know, listen, this administration this administration is really not doing anything at all to destroy America. They're not doing anything to destroy it. I mean they're literally not doing anything. They're really way too busy, you know, raising pride flags and doing all kinds of really important work.

Speaker 2: 8:22

Let me let me. So. What you said actually is very important, depending on how you. You said they're not doing anything to destroy America. They're not doing anything in order to destroy America. They're doing nothing purposefully to destroy America. That is really what it boils down to. The the economy is. You know, this is unbelievable. It's an unbelievable flip in three and a half years, from where we were. It's been the death. Everybody says just look at gas prices, but look at the price of everything. Right, right, we all know this and it hurts everybody. You know, and, and, and this is all over mean tweets. I still believe my heart that people didn't like it because of the mean tweets, and that's why they're right, and we're all economically suffering because of that stupidity.

Speaker 3: 9:14

Yeah, absolutely, here we are. It's really. It's. It's just shocking to to witness and to, you know, actually being forced to be a participant in because it's obviously affecting us all and it's just crazy to me, and this topic, specifically this one tonight, is so ironic to me that it's the one that I was like, eh, this doesn't sound like fun to talk about big deal, whatever. Wow, the implications of this are pretty, are pretty massive for for us really.

Speaker 2: 9:46

Yeah, and and this is to reverse this I, you know, I don't know, president Trump's done a lot of things. You know, listen, nobody can. It's very hard to argue as economic policies and how good they were for the United States, this one is going to be hard to kind of put back on the books. I think. I really, I really do. I don't know what kind of agreement you know once he gets into office, because you know we're both convinced that's going to happen.

Speaker 2: 10:11

Yes, I don't know what kind of business dealings he can do to rectify this Right. I hope there's a plan in place to get in touch with, you know, the king of Saudi Arabia, and make some sort of adjustment. You know, the the, the King of Saudi Arabia, and and make some sort of adjustment. You know.

Speaker 3: 10:26

Yeah, I mean, you know, the the um business and the economic um field is really his, his expertise. So hopefully, uh, hopefully, when he gets in he can fix this. You know, I mean that man has a full plate to say the least I mean wow, His to do list is huge.

Speaker 3: 11:00

It is insane, insane, and you know, knowing what we huge, huge, and what we know of them to be basically already working right now and and just ready to you know, dot those or cross those t's. I don't think there's any, no, there's no eyes to dot, so you remember what happened last time though?

Speaker 2: 11:17

last time, they did this right before he took office in 2016?. People got on the phones, they started making phone calls, and then what happens? Right, they get put on trial, they get put on trial for some law from the 1800s that nobody's even talked about in 150 years, right, but that's, that's where we're at, so yes, he's jumping into the bit.

Speaker 3: 11:52

Yes, he has a lot to do. I think he'll probably be a little more cautious about getting ahead of himself. But but yeah, right of the the world and world leaders, and especially the big, bad, scary ones seizing an opportunity to, you know, mark mark their fire hydrants, basically Right.

Speaker 2: 12:16

Yeah. So I mean, if you think, like this is it's like 1962 all over again, like it's Russia, it's Cuba, it's North Korea and it's China, like they're all, like you just went to North Korea, like this just happened, you know it is, but you know the Cuban Missile Crisis. This is not quite that, but it's close. And here's why, here's the technology of it. Is these two? They sent a. I think it's a frigate. I'm not a Navy guy. Like they're all boats to me. You know. I know they get mad because they're supposed to be ships and whatever. They're all. You have submarines and then you have boats, and that's my naval knowledge, right there.

Speaker 3: 12:56

More than mine.

Speaker 2: 12:57

Yeah, I think they sent a. I think it's a frigate, but it's a missile. You know, a ship with missile launching capabilities and a brand new submarine to Cuba, right, right, um, which you know. Okay, it's international waters or it's into a Harbor. You know of an ally, we do that stuff all the time. Sure, the proximity of 90 miles from the U S coast makes it a little bit, you know, twitchy, but what makes it very twitchy is the capabilities that these two ships carry. So they both carry, I think it's called the Zircon.

Speaker 2: 13:38

Okay, it's a hypersonic missile. Okay, supersonic missile. Okay, for those that don't know what that means, that missile and the technology on board will allow that thing to travel at nine times the speed of sound, 7 000 miles an hour. Now there's a. There's a little bit of delay, delay at launch, and then a little it slows because it is guided right, this isn't just a launch, and you know fire and forget, like you know, like the artillery shell, this is like you know it can. Still, it's a smart missile, right, it flies super, super fast and then it slows down right before it gets to its target, makes some adjustments and drops in right. Cuba to southern tip of Florida is 90 miles. 90 miles, that's 45 seconds of flight time. 45 seconds, 45 seconds. Push the button, yeah 45 seconds.

Speaker 3: 14:36

You know, 60 seconds max. It's hitting Miami 60 seconds. That's insane. Everybody needs to take a moment.

Speaker 2: 14:39

Let that sink in. Yes, yeah, like zero reaction time Right. And oh, by the way, nuclear capable.

Speaker 3: 14:46

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2: 14:47

Yes, put a nuclear warhead on those things. They can erase Miami in 60 seconds. Right, zero response time. So that's why this matters, but it's this is Putin flexing his muscles, as he's apt to do Right, as as all predecessors have been apt to do right all the way back, uh, but we, we are in a, we are in a worldwide known weakened state we just talked about economically. We dropped the ball with the saudis, yes, right. And now you've got, you know, militarily, we've got some known weaknesses, right, right, right.

Speaker 3: 15:25

Right, right. Yeah, we talked a while back about enrollments being down. We talked about, you know, resources being spread uh, thin, um, you know finances, money going out like, uh, like through a sieve, you know to uh.

Speaker 2: 15:43

Ukraine and everybody else yeah.

Speaker 3: 15:45

Yeah, everybody, everybody wants money. Anybody who wants money, we've got some. No, we don't, but here you go.

Speaker 2: 15:50

Yeah, I mean, that's what they're doing you know, and so you know these two ships are down there and they said they're going to be down there for, you know, for some training maneuvers and some other things. And you know our Navy and even the coast guard haven't been shy about saying, well, that's fine, as soon as they're, you know, in international waters, we're going to track them and we're going to make them nervous because we're going to track them. You're not making them nervous because they know you're not going to do anything, right like there's. You know that submarine is going to play hide and go seek in the caribbean and have fun doing it, because they know it doesn't matter. They know nothing is going to happen to them. And that frigate too, they're going to sail through international waters. They'll probably get.

Speaker 2: 16:30

You know what's the limit. I think it's 50 miles or something like that. They can get up to 50 miles. I think is the boundary. They'll get to 51 miles. Drop a bird and park there and they won't care. They're not scared of us. This is not, you know, years past. This is not administrations of years past. There's no strength right now, and they know and that's.

Speaker 3: 16:53

Yeah, absolutely that's what you know we've got a. We've got a bumbling idiot in charge and you know I'm I'm taking us out of the order I originally said because this makes more sense.

Speaker 3: 17:05

Right, yeah, I mean, let's, let's talk. What, what and more, more jaw dropping is is the Biden administration. You know Biden cam saying you know constantly oh no, no, it's all. You know. Fake video. He's fine, he's fine.

Speaker 3: 17:25

Those right wing loonies, they doctored those videos. It didn't really happen. Yes, it did. And then the audacity like this is the ultimate in gaslighting the audacity to say those right wing, you know reckless, bad people, they are doctoring those videos and editing them to make it look a certain way. And then they're like this is really what happened. It's the same video, same exact thing. It's just so wacky. I've got a couple for you here. Um, so, okay.

Speaker 3: 18:00

So, first of all, so I think this is in order. So we talked about last week was the whole D-Day debacle, with him just doing these bizarre things, embarrassing things. And then we move right on to the G7 Summit and here's this moment for anybody who may have missed it. So, so that now the biden team is like you, doctor that you edit it so that you couldn't see that he was just going over to check out the other uh, paratroopers there. He was just going to take a look at them and no, okay, sure, I'll give that to you. Okay, sure, that's what you want to call it. Okay, that's what he was doing Doesn't change the fact that he wandered off away from what everyone else was doing, which nothing that is going on is willy nilly, like hey, what do you think we?

Speaker 3: 19:20

Should we go over here and watch it? No, everything is very orchestrated, planned to the minute, and you know what I mean. So it's not like this was just some casual, random moment. This was a planned, orchestrated thing. We are all going to watch this guy do his thing, roll up his stuff, whatever he landed, blah, blah, blah. And then you know whatever. And the prime minister of Italy had to go over there like, did you see the whole? Or like the whole. If you could just imagine what the conversation was. And it was like well, are you gonna do? You see what? What are you? Who's gonna? You do it? Somebody go get him, go get him.

Speaker 3: 20:02

And she was like okay, fine, I'll go get him Go get him and she was like okay, fine, I'll go get him. I don't know, I'm just, I have no idea how she talks. It was terrible of me. But she goes over and she, she takes him by the arms and come on, come on over here, come on, and he toddles along, you know. And and then there's that you know. So then we move on to do. I have this in order. So I don't know actually if the order is right, but we're going to go on to this one, right here.

Speaker 1: 20:29

People would ask me, knowing what you know now, do you wish like you had a second, a third term? And I used to say, you know what, if I could make an arrangement where I had a, I had a stand in a front man or front woman and they had an earpiece in and I was just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff and then I could sort of deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking and ceremony. I'd be fine. Yeah, I'd be fine.

Speaker 3: 21:01

Yeah, so if you were distracted by the puppet master saying how he was, would be the puppet master and you missed out on the split screen there where. So he's on stage Joe Biden, jimmy Kimmel tool and Obama is such a tool. I can't stand that guy would use another word. But I'm trying to be good and but y'all know what I wanted to say.

Speaker 2: 21:25

Or you could take your pick.

Speaker 3: 21:27

Yeah, exactly, host of the man show. Yes, let's never forget that. We should never forget that. Um, but yeah, so they're. They're on stage. It's like a fundraiser thing they're doing and, um, biden was doing okay for like a couple minutes there, a minute before he's like giving the thumbs up to people and doing the wave you you know the little scarecrow man wave and then it gets to a point where you know they're kind of making their way off stage and Biden freezes. He just stands, you know, arms down at his side and just hanging there and Biden I'm sorry Obama sees it and goes over and takes his arm. He doesn't grab his arm, but he takes his arm, gives it a little shake Even I watched this video many times over takes his arm, gives it a little shake, like come on, hey, snap out of it buddy, and walks him off stage like a repeat of you know the prime minister of Italy, repeat of uh, you know the prime minister, uh of italy. Um, same, exact thing, like this. So they have coordinated that, they've orchestrated this. This has been conversations like if this happens, we're going to do this, if this happens, we're going to do that. And this is the the go-to move. Jill has escorted him, escorted him off stages, uh, and platforms and things many times now, and this is another example of it.

Speaker 3: 22:45

And once again the left, including, of course, the White House administration, is like you doctored that video, you edit it to make it look bad. Well, I, literally, and I don't have it for you here right now you got to, I'm going to post it later. I took what, the White House version, what they're sharing. I took that version and watched that and very conveniently, at the moment or seconds after he starts the freeze posture, they cut back to a super far angle, like way far that they look like ants on a stage, like it's so far back, and then cut back in as they're walking off. Of course, but you know, but the right doctor at the video, not them, not them, it's not even doctored, it's just edited to cut out parts that they don't want you to see. But, holy cow, it's just madness.

Speaker 3: 23:39

And then we're going to top it off. You know we had like three solid incidents here. We're going to top it off. Is this the one? Yes, it is Okay, and we're topping it off with this one. I mean, what, the, what, what? The actual heck Good, I'm doing what was happening. Everybody's face, the Pope's face.

Speaker 2: 24:17

They've already started calling the G7 summit the G6 summit because Biden keeps wandering off. They literally have eliminated us because he's not present. They're like, oh, it's just G6 summit. Because Biden keeps wandering off. They literally have eliminated us because he's not president. They're like, oh, it's just G6. It's useless, they're out right. Yeah, yeah, the Obama thing. Listen, I will criticize President Obama for a lot of things.

Speaker 2: 24:37

Stupid is not one of them. Right, that man, he is the right man. He assesses the situation, he sees things for what they are and he knows, truthfully, exactly how to react in public. Now he's not real good behind closed doors about making decisions, but in public public eye, like he was at that fundraiser, he, that guy's dead on. So he did, you know, he knew what to do. He absolutely as casual as possible. He probably should have got a little bit closer to him before he did the sleeve tug. Yes, I saw exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, he kind of gave him the old come on.

Speaker 3: 25:12

Right, come on, buddy Palomine.

Speaker 2: 25:15

Yeah. So the kicker too about the Pope thing is President Biden, who claims to be such a great Catholic. Right, right, right, I know you're Christian, not Catholic. I grew up Catholic. If you're a Catholic and he claims to be a very good Catholic, I don't care if you're the president or not. When you meet the Pope, the first thing you do is kiss the ring. I don't care, like that's it. That's how it works. But what did we get out of that? We got, you know, and yeah, and he, he basically head butted him. You know he like rested his head on him and you could tell that the star uncomfortable. Oh weird. I was waiting. You know the pope had hair. He probably would have sniffed it. This is proof positive that he is just incapable of putting any of this stuff together when the meds wear off and it seems like the meds are wearing off very quickly now- Very quickly.

Speaker 2: 26:18

Or they've got the dosage very, very wrong. Right, got the dosage very, very wrong. And now I'm going to take us out of order because really, when we talk about this and his incapable you know him being incapable of acting properly in public this is going to come to fruition and become very, very apparent for the debate Rules or no rules, and actually the rules, I think, do not help President Biden.

Speaker 3: 26:42

No, no, not at all.

Speaker 3: 26:43

Not at all. What are they getting? So are they getting, like, um, I think it's two breaks. Hang on, I do. I have, like the, the breakdown here, the list of rules. Let's see. Um, see my notes for out of order.

Speaker 3: 26:54

Okay, so it's going to be a 90 minute debate in Atlanta. It's going to include two commercial breaks. So two commercial breaks, 90, it's 90 minutes. This guy has got to hang in there for 90 minutes. Let's see. During which time Biden and Trump will not be able to interact with their staff. Their positions at the podium will be determined by a coin flip. Microphones will be muted throughout the debate, except for when it's time for a candidate's turn to speak. The debate, except for when it's time for a candidate's turn to speak, which I actually think is fantastic. I could not stand in any debate. I can't stand the talking over, the interrupting, all that stuff. I just find it to be whoever's doing it. I find it to be classless and just embarrassing and not amusing at all. So I'm glad for that. But how in the heck is this guy going to do 90 minutes? Now, he did 90 minutes, or was it 90 minutes for his state of the union?

Speaker 2: 27:47

I'm trying to remember he was shorter, short, too short, but not by much. It was over an hour, but less than 90. Okay, you know, there was no break in that. They obviously pumped him full of something, right? You know, and I know that that president Trump, well, I don't know if he was joking or serious, but he had proposed, you know, a drug test beforehand.

Speaker 3: 28:08

I'm pretty sure he was serious, yeah, but knowing though that it wasn't going to happen, I mean, he knew it wouldn't happen, sure.

Speaker 2: 28:15

But I think so. You know, the podiums are going to be uniform, which I think is interesting, right. So you're going to see a very gaunt, very skinny right, president Biden, who's probably going to be holding onto that thing for dear life. And then you've got President Trump, who you know listen, he's not the fittest guy in the world, but he's a big dude, right, and he's a big fella he's. Listen, he can go play 18 holes of golf Like. He's in a lot better physical shape than president biden is, that's for sure, right?

Speaker 2: 28:50

Um, but the, the muting of the mics, I agree with you. We talked about that during the republican debates. How annoying that was, so annoying. So I I'm happy about that as well. I also think that that is going to benefit president by, or president trump, because there can be no claims of you know, oh, you misunderstood. Or oh, right, you know you couldn't you misunderstood. Or oh, you know you couldn't hear him because of president Trump, or oh, this or that. That microphone's muted. President Trump's microphone is muted. The only person you're going to hear is president Biden, because, oh, by the way, there's also no audience, there's no applause.

Speaker 3: 29:15

I don't think I realized that. Okay, there's no distraction.

Speaker 2: 29:18

There's no, no noise to cover up, as he's standing there at the microphone, which is what we're going to get. It may not be in the first 30 minutes, it may not even be in the second 30 minutes, but in that last 30 minutes. If I was President Trump and his staff, my entire strategy would be beat him up for the first 60 and then go completely silent for the last 30 and just let him hang himself.

Speaker 3: 29:41

Brilliant yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:42

He's going to be smoked. He's going to be smoked. He's going to be so tired. Yeah, he's going to be worn off. He is going to make. He's going to make a fool out of himself, yep. Only thing that would make it worse is if he lets go of the podium and walks away, which I wouldn't put it past him.

Speaker 3: 29:57

Yeah, I mean I don't, given the level of deterioration that this guy has displayed over the, just the past few weeks I mean never mind the months and years, but just the past few weeks the level of deterioration is so drastic and stark, I don't, I cannot fathom how they're going to do it, fathom how they're going to do it.

Speaker 3: 30:23

And I guess you know the the big, you know low key rumor is that, um, that the Democrats are, basically they're just waiting to see how this goes before they make their decision if they're really going to put them forward or not. And this is going to be like the deciding factor. I think they're. You know, supposedly they're figuring like, all right, if he can at least get through it, if we can get them through it on his feet and, you know, not wandering off during the middle of a sentence, um, then then we'll stick with them and, uh, if it would have to, you know, completely derail and tank for them to move them along. But we'll see, we'll see, and then you know what that means. I don't, I don't know. Does that mean? Does that mean kamala, or?

Speaker 2: 31:02

what? Yeah, I, I don't listen. They don't have to get him that this debate he can't. It doesn't matter if he can get through the debate or not. Like right, like this, this should not be the determining factor. Like right, yes, three clips, that should be enough for them to determine he can't do this. But you know, yes, I, I think and maybe this is the setup, you know, we've been talking about it for months right, that at the last minute they're going to swap him out or you know, some health, you know something's going to pull him out of the race and maybe this is it. Maybe this has been the setup the whole time. But do they really think this is the only debate that they're going to have between now and November? Like he's going to have to do this again and maybe another time after that. But you know there's one more after this one and with his rate of decline, like you talked about, it's going to be worse.

Speaker 3: 31:52

It's going to be worse, and that's you know. I mean, that's that's exactly what happens with and now listen, I'm not a doctor, I have no medical blah, blah, blah, I haven't examined him yet, yada, yada, yada. But by the casual observer, which I think you know about, half of America and most of all of the other countries would say that this guy's got legit dementia, like he's you know. He is in severe cognitive and physical decline and as it progresses, as that progresses, it only gets worse, obviously, and that decline gets sharper and more drastic, and I think that's what we're seeing, you know. And of course, the left is like you're crazy. He's fine, sharp as a tack.

Speaker 2: 32:36

I just, yeah, you know they're going to and we've talked about this too Like there's a there's a timeline associated place and there's there's a timeline, because it can't be last minute. You know, we talked a couple of weeks ago about Ohio, right, the 5th of August. So they've got to make a decision before the 5th of August, right, because otherwise, invalidated candidate, I'm sure that you know they'll claim some medical emergency and they'll have to blah, blah, blah. You know it would be all of those things, but you know they can't count on that unless they're buying the entire state of Ohio. But they do have to make a decision before then. So if they're going to tank him, then it's got to be before then. And this debate, you're right. I mean, that's that actually makes sense when you put it against the calendar to say this is the one where they were going to have to make a decision and yeah yeah, this may be it is crazy.

Speaker 3: 33:30

I, I can't, I can't believe that this is what we're witnessing in our history. Like this is our history. This is like when we're in our rocking chairs.

Speaker 2: 33:40

I remember when we thought old dads were a bad thing. Like this is nuts compared to that.

Speaker 3: 33:48

This is nuts. This is nuts. I mean, you know, we all have this, like you know, life-size or drive-in. There's the young people. Maybe I don't even know what a drive-in is, but something the size of a drive-in movie screen, of a bingo card, like our bingo cards are so full and there are words on there that sound like they came out of Joe Biden's mouth, you know, like things that just don't even make any sense, but yet they're really what we're living through. It's bananas, let's see. So we went out of order. So who do we want to go?

Speaker 2: 34:29

back to. You want to go back to, uh, the voice of God, right? He, you know, I mean, and he's literally played, you know. Played God, uh, you know, I think, more than once, or at least in a couple of different movies or scenarios. But listen, for those of you that don't know Morgan Freeman, this is not a new stance for him. It just kind of tickles itself back into public viewing every so often. Usually it's around February.

Speaker 3: 34:52

Yeah, but he was just asked about it this past weekend, I guess.

Speaker 2: 34:56

This past weekend asked about history, Black history, Black history month, about the plight of the African, black history, black history month, about, you know, the plight of the African-American, some other things. And he despises African-American history month, black history month, and he doesn't despise it, you know, because people have taken this quote out of context. He doesn't despise it because it's the shortest month of the year right.

Speaker 2: 35:20

He doesn't mention that, but if you listen to the whole thing, he's got a very good explanation. American history is American history. It's not black history, it's not white history. History is history and as long as you're studying history, then everybody's included, and that's what matters. He also believes that racism goes away when you stop talking about it, like if people would stop and again these are his words you stop calling me black man, I'll stop calling you a white man, we'll stop talking about it and eventually people will just won't even think about it and it'll go away. And he's a firm believer in that. He's been saying it for decades. He's been saying this Um, so, with this being, you know, pride month, right, it's pride month. And then what's you know? Two, let's see. So we're oddly recording on a Monday night, okay, yes, tell you this all the time.

Speaker 3: 36:12

We record on.

Speaker 2: 36:12

Tuesdays drops on Thursdays this week. You know Elsa's a world traveler, so she's on an airplane again.

Speaker 3: 36:18

I threw us off schedule again.

Speaker 2: 36:20

But Wednesday is the newest federal holiday, juneteenth, which is, I think, what brought this up with Morgan Freeman. Yes, okay, so you got.

Speaker 3: 36:28

Juneteenth.

Speaker 2: 36:28

Oh, you're right, that's exactly what yeah, you got Juneteenth right, which is, you know, the end of slavery and everything associated with that as a federal holiday, smack dab in the middle of Pride Month, right? So the question is that Elsa and I have thrown at each other and I'd love to see people's opinions on this right In the chat message us. I just I love, I love this discussion. It's how do you feel about these months? And when I say that I'm not just talking about pride month and I'm not talking about African-American black history month, I'm talking about, you know, asian American, pacific Islander month. I'm talking about women's history month. I'm talking all of these. You know months. You know that we use to acknowledge and celebrate and, and you know, kind of bring to light, you know, accomplishments and those sorts of things. How do we feel about these? Good or bad? Like, where do you stand on this?

Speaker 3: 37:23

Yeah, you know, I think a lot of it has just gotten outright silly and I'm going to give you an example here. Now, let's just go with February, okay, because February, as you said, is Black History Month. Well, here's what Black History Month shares the month of February with. It shares this national recognition with things like and I kid you not, canned Food Month, great American Pies Month, national bake for family fun month, national cat health month, national bird feeding month, um, teen dating violence awareness month, turner syndrome awareness.

Speaker 3: 38:05

But I there's, there's, you know a well over a dozen things, and that goes for each month. You have something of you know, significance, meaningful. You know, I am actually a fan of like things, like you know well, particularly, I'll say, ovarian Cancer Awareness Month, you know those ones I'm kind of a fan of. But things I think like Black History Month or any, you know, nationality, ethnicity, any of those things, month or any, you know nationality, ethnicity, any of those things, I personally would say I I have a problem with those. I'm not a fan of those, um, and I don't think that we should have them, because I think it's more divisive than it is unifying. I don't think it.

Speaker 3: 38:44

It, um, I agree with Morgan Freeman. I mean, you know you're you're relegating, um, uh, a whole people's history value to a month that you're sharing it with canned food month or something stupid, whatever it was. You know it is, it's actually insulting, it's, it's highly insulting, I think you know, and everybody in this country, like he said, or paraphrasing really, it's all of our history, it's our shared history, it's our collective history and, yes, absolutely there are parts of that history that are ugly to look at, that we don't like to you know, magnify and look at. But we need to, we need to know the history, our own, our everybody's in this country. And yeah, I don't, I just think it's gotten out of hand. Out of hand. What do you think?

Speaker 2: 39:31

So I'm going to throw you a, a, a pun. Okay, I'm throwing. I'm literally throwing you a curve ball, literally, major league baseball just recently took all of the records from the Negro leagues and meshed them into all of the records from the history of major league baseball.

Speaker 3: 39:52

Okay.

Speaker 2: 39:53

So now there is only one baseball history, one professional baseball history. Wow, is there still you know stats, for you know purely Negro league teams, purely Negro league players, yes, but they are met with the rest of major league baseball. So players who played in both their their career, stats and records, and things are now you know total, but they, but they've meshed them all together. So there's one history right.

Speaker 2: 40:22

Wow. So we have an interesting twist in that that the drive for that was recognition in the history of baseball, was recognition in the history of baseball. They didn't want it separated anymore, they wanted it comparative. Because I think there was a push or a movement, you know, for people to say, well, you know, so-and-so is the best pitcher of all time. Well, what about so-and-so? Well, he played in the Negro Leagues, he didn't play Major League Baseball, blah, blah, no, no, no, he's better. So it's because you know baseball, people of all sports people, are the worst stat heads ever I've heard this yeah.

Speaker 2: 40:58

So they put all, they've taken all the stats and they meshed them together, right, which really kind of proves Morgan Freeman's point History is history, history is history, history is history, right. So I am not I'm not a fan of of months, because I think it's one of those, you know we lose. We lose perspective, like in any month. Like 30 days, 31 days worth in the case of February 28, or 29 days where it loses its its impact, sure, plus, I think there's a little bit of a a skewed perspective on some things. Listen, hits close to me personally. We have one Veterans Day, we're on Veterans Month. We have one Veterans Day, right, yeah, period, right. So there's those sorts of things. And again, some other things that hit close to home with me. There's Mental Health Awareness Month, ptsd Awareness Month, which is the same month, right, and those hit close to me, just like the ovarian cancer thing hits close to you, right, and I think the awareness piece of it is important. But I think whole months, I think, are probably overkill, right.

Speaker 2: 42:00

But I am a believer in that, if you are going to truly study history, when you start to segregate and listen, history is a very broad topic and, yes, you have to drill down into specific things at specific times, but it's always in relation to something else. If you take isolated incidents out of history, you're losing the perspective, the pluses and minuses, befores and afters, cause and effect, all that stuff. So when you break it apart Black History Month, like I said, it was an Asian American, islander, pacific, pacific Islander month what is it? Asian American, islander, pacific, pacific Islander month, you know, like that, all of that stuff taken out of context, right, I think you, I personally think it loses something. So I'm not a fan of the months I am a fan of of studying, celebrating history, achievements, accomplishments, you know, um, all of that is very, very important, but I think that that we've, we've gone overboard.

Speaker 3: 42:53

I mean, what is a cat food history? Yeah, like cats or other, yeah, cat wellness. It's absurd.

Speaker 2: 42:57

Like we've gotten yeah.

Speaker 3: 42:59

And it diminishes. It diminishes ones that are more impactful, that have more of a you know more of an impact on people. You know like the Black History Month on people. You know like Black History Month, and it's just, I think it's just so insulting to put you know your cat food month or cat health month in the same thing. Like how do you who picks these things first of all? Like who decides this, this stuff? It's just silly.

Speaker 2: 43:24

Like they're not hallmark holidays, but they're pretty close.

Speaker 3: 43:28

Yeah, and you know, and I did like two searches on this, because the first one that I came up with I forgot to put the word national in, because it was important to make sure that these were nationally recognized holidays, and and the first one I read had pretty much all the same things that that this one did, which was actually even more appalling, because it's like, are you kidding me? Somebody took the time to make, let's see, national Soup Month. That's January, by the way. So, just so you know, that's National Soup Month and I expect everyone to celebrate accordingly. I will be making soup every day in January, now that I know that. You know, I mean, it's come on, it's just so silly and it loses the impact, it degrades, you know, things that are really are of importance and value, like mental health awareness, like PTSD, like Veterans Day, you know, yeah, how about?

Speaker 3: 44:22

I think we all, you know, I think the biggest thing for me, you know, since we're we started off with kind of like Black History Month, and I know there's going to be people in the comments and the thought flashed through my mind, too briefly, of what about White History Month? Why not have a White Month? And you know, and I kind of like dismissed that just as quickly. Because, to be honest with you, what is? You know? What is white? Even I'm struggling to even understand this. You know term of whiteness. Like I'm, by appearance I'm white, but I'm, you know, half Hispanic. So you know what it's like. Enough already, you know right.

Speaker 2: 44:58

If you're born in this country, go ahead. Somebody else like you, Mrs Baldwin.

Speaker 3: 45:03

Oh, that's right, my bestie Hilaria.

Speaker 2: 45:09

Hilaria Baldwin.

Speaker 3: 45:11

Yeah, which is, by the way, Hillary. Your name is Hillary.

Speaker 2: 45:16

So, honestly, when, when you know, I threw the whole um, you know petrodollar thing and uh, elsa, and she was like what? Um? She threw the Alec Baldwin reality show at me and I had the exact same reaction. I was like what? So, um, that you know, know, I think everybody is aware, most people are aware, whether you pay attention or not, you know, I mean, he is still in legal. You know processes for the of that. You know, young lady um on on set where he was an executive producer and oh, by the way, the actor in the scene that pulled the trigger that ended up killing the trigger, right, yeah, so he is. He's still up on charges for involuntary manslaughter and, at the same time, is it TLC? I think it's.

Speaker 3: 46:01

TLC.

Speaker 2: 46:01

TLC is just announced the the Baldwin, the Baldwin's reality show.

Speaker 2: 46:08

I can't like when, when the the when the incident happened, okay, when, when that shooting happened, I was with my best friend, and I've said this before, he's a Hollywood guy, he works in the industry, right, we were together, we were at a, at a, at an auto auction, and just having a boy's weekend and hanging out, and we, the news broke and we did exactly what we normally do, right, his brain went to the industry and everything that he knows about TV and movie sets and everything that could have gone wrong in the processes. Right, my head went to all the mechanical gun stuff, like, how did this happen? What type of gun was it? And then, you know, is this preventable, was it not? And you know all the conditions of, of mechanical failure and all that stuff. So we went back and forth for a day and a half before we went separate ways. And you know and this is, you know, it's a couple of years ago, right, and it was horrific when it happened then, and this is still going on and none of it is.

Speaker 2: 47:00

you know it's only partially settled. But who is the idiot executive at TLC that thought that this was a good idea?

Speaker 3: 47:08

Right, like like the whole process of this, that these people the Bald Baldwin's first of all, they are the most garbage human beings. I mean they really are. They are so self-serving. I think Alec Baldwin is one of the biggest pieces of garbage that I've ever had to witness, garbage that I've ever had to witness. He is such a lousy human being and that, for me, goes back to his treatment of law enforcement. That that is for me, and I don't even know if I can get through this whole segment without swearing about him, cause I think, if I get, if, given the opportunity, I'd punch him straight in the face. I just got all Robert De Niro on you. I punch him in the face, wasn't that wasn't that him.

Speaker 2: 47:56

That was like drunk on the floor talking to it, cursing out his own daughter, his daughter.

Speaker 3: 48:01

He called his daughter, his like 11 year old daughter at the time a ungrateful little pig, among other things. Yeah, he is a vile, nasty, nasty man and I mean the photographs from right after the incident.

Speaker 2: 48:20

Right, the first photographs of him right after the incident. He's standing out in the desert and he's on his phone. I I don't know this for a fact, but I know this in my heart. You know who he was talking to His lawyer, his lawyer.

Speaker 3: 48:32

Absolutely no question about it. No question about it. He wasn't calling home.

Speaker 2: 48:36

He wasn't sick to his stomach about killing another human being Right.

Speaker 3: 48:41

No, it was all about him.

Speaker 2: 48:43

It was protection and me to call my lawyer, get my lawyer on the phone, call my lawyer, talk to my lawyer Guaranteed Because, like you said, horrible human being.

Speaker 3: 48:52

Absolutely atrocious to me and this is, you know, just further proof that. So here's this family, um, the woman I think, uh, helena, let's see, do I have her name? Uh, helena. I know her first name is helena, um, but she, hutchins is her last name.

Speaker 3: 49:07

Um, you know, this woman lost her life because of his and other people's carelessness, recklessness. Um, and her husband and, I think, at least one child I don't know if they have more than one, but I know there's at least one child now will grow up motherless and this dumpster fire of a human being while he's still going through uh, I don't know if it's a civil case or a criminal case, but While he's still going through, I don't know if it's a civil case or a criminal case, but he thinks, hey, you know what we should do? We should have a reality series with our life, about our life and our big, happy, wonderful, beautiful, joyful family, which, by the way, looks like an absolute train wreck. Yes, like seven kids. Seven kids all because of, you know, hilaria's. You know 100 percent Latinic. I don't forget what she tries to. Oh, spain. So, yeah, um, right, who? By the way, she's not even, I don't think she's even an ounce spanish like not even a fraction again.

Speaker 2: 50:05

I had to, I had to research this one because I didn't know anything about the baldwin reality show and I had totally forgotten about that, right, and that was like the popped up right away. So back then I think it was 2020, 2021 timeframe. You know, um, it, it. You know she forgot the word for cucumber, the English word for cucumber.

Speaker 3: 50:25

How you say.

Speaker 2: 50:26

How you say yeah, she's got this, this Spanish accent, right because she's from spain. She's forgotten these words in english. When people immediately afterwards, people who knew her growing up, are like her name is hillary and she's from boston, like this is total garbage. She didn't she. She grew up in an american house with american parents. Nobody was speaking with a spanish accent. This is totally made up. And then and then she accused everybody around her of targeting her, of going after, of making up lies, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, this is who. This is right. This is, yeah, why these two are attracted together, right?

Speaker 3: 51:07

this is why pathological, pathological narcissists, um, just terrible humans, and you know. So here's the worst part about all of this is that people will watch it, and this frustrates me to no end. And the reason why most people will watch it is because they want to see the train wreck that is their lives Like and and they're such terrible humans that they don't care. They know. They know. They know how much people hate them. Like you can't escape it. Like people follow Alec Baldwin around with their cell phones and, like you know, torment him.

Speaker 3: 51:44

I don't even feel bad. Normally that would make me feel bad, even if I didn't like somebody for him. Nah, don't feel bad, go after him, don't care, but this is how horrible they are. They know how much people hate them and they're like well, they're they. They're one of two schools of thought once. Yeah, exactly One school of thought is that they're like. This is going to make everybody fall in love with us and you know this will fix our image in people's eyes and they will see we're just like them or they're like I don't care, because they're going to watch it, whether they hate us or love us and we're going to make money off of this, and either way, they're trash, they're garbage. I will not watch.

Speaker 2: 52:22

There's no reality. There's no reality in reality shows, none of it. Anybody who believes that reality shows are unscripted, you're sorely, sorely mistaken. The are unscripted. You're sorely, sorely mistaken. The last time and I'm excluding sports, although there's quite a bit of sports, I think that's scripted nowadays but the last time reality show was unscripted was the very first season of the Real World on MTV. That was it.

Speaker 3: 52:47

That was the only time.

Speaker 2: 52:49

That was the only time, and even some of that was scripted, but for the most part it wasn't, and after that that was the end of it. Everything has been scripted, so this will be too, but let's go on a high note. Let's get worked up about the royals, the royal family in England and all that stuff.

Speaker 2: 53:16

And why should we care and all this other stuff? You know what this lady? I pay attention to this lady for a lot of reasons. Yeah, I think she is, you know she is the best thing that's happened to the royal family, absolutely. You know, truthfully, since that that the wedding, because I think it was downhill. After that the princess wedding right, but kate princess, kate, princess katherine, you know she's been battling cancer.

Speaker 2: 53:45

this is her first public appearance, um, since the announcement, um, and it was, by all reports, her choice to do this, and the event that she decided to come out in public was Trooping of the Colors in celebration of King Charles' birthday. And now she did look thin.

Speaker 3: 54:06

So thin Stomach cancer.

Speaker 2: 54:08

My grandfather had stomach cancer. It's going to take her a while, right? Yeah, it's going to take. She's going to put some weight back on, but it's going to take.

Speaker 2: 54:12

Grandfather had stomach cancer, it's going to take her a while, right, yeah, put some weight back on, but it's going to take a while, right. But she, what she did look was strong and, yes, and you know, as beautiful and as graceful as she always does and, at the same time, a great mom. Right, we've all seen it in public, in the dressiest of dress, she will put those kids in line. Yeah, she's still a mom, right, she is still a mom, but I, I got, I, I think it's amazing, I applaud her. Um, I'm very happy for that family. I know a lot of people don't care, but, um, I think it's an amazing thing that she decided to come back into the public eye as quickly as she did. And to me, truthfully, she looks fabulous.

Speaker 3: 54:52

Yeah, I agree, I agree on all, all points, all points, and again I'll echo that to your point. Yes, a lot of people have a lot of things to say about the Royal family. I totally get that. There's, you know, been plenty of stuff you know, in the conspiracy theory realm of of things said not about her specifically at all, maybe about William, I think. There's always all kinds of things being said, affairs, blah, blah, blah, all the stuff and things.

Speaker 3: 55:20

I am choosing to set all of that aside and just say look at this beautiful, elegant woman, mother, future queen, the whole works. And yeah, I just give her same, just tons of credit, tons of props for being just such a pillar of elegance and timeless beauty and all of the things that we're kind of really sorely lacking in this world. And I think for me and I won't speak for you I think for me that that's a little bit of the affection that I have and I think it was the same thing in a lot of ways with Princess Diana. She just was this elegant, beautiful, yet seemingly down to earth, approachable woman and she gives that same energy and, you know, knowing how they lost their mother, and you know it's pretty amazing to witness, you know it's. It's pretty amazing to to witness, you know, his, his choice, and a wife that embodies that same type of elegance.

Speaker 3: 56:18

I mean, I'll say it again and again Elegant, elegant, elegant, just so elegant. And yeah, same wish wish her a full and complete recovery as soon as possible. You think of those kids all the time. Anytime there's kids involved, you know who, no matter who who they are, whether it's, you know, um, somebody up the street or somebody on the world stage like that, you just, you just pull for them. So, yeah, that was, uh, that was really nice to see. And again, whether you like the Royals or not, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 56:45

Yeah, and again it's um, you know she is, uh, she's what, uh, what we all want in invisible world leadership. You know, in some form or fashion. And her husband as well. You know his brother I had a lot of time for for a very long time because of his service and the things that he sacrificed and did. And then you know one bad choice and all of that goes out the window. But, uh, you know, those two William and Kate, I think are you know, they kind of give everybody, especially within the kingdom, they give everybody a little bit more pride and a little bit more. You know, it's not so much of a soap opera, I think, with the two of them around, which I think is awesome.

Speaker 2: 57:23

I think it's good. It's good for the world actually, I think for that you know kind of image to be out there and for her to be at the forefront is fantastic.

Speaker 3: 57:36

So very, very happy to see her up and around Same, absolutely. See. You guys, we're not all doom and gloom and terrible things happening in the world. There's something a bright note to end the show, and we should probably make a point of doing that every every week. We should make a point of ending on like a really bright note. Let's do that.

Speaker 2: 57:48

I'll do that. I'm the doom and gloom guy, so you're you gotta go on the high side.

Speaker 3: 57:57

All right, I will be. Uh, clay's going to be doom and gloom. I'm going to be hearts and flowers and sunshine when I'm not threatening to punch people in the face, you know, there's your sunshine, oh man. All right, guys, you know the deal. We, um, we love hearing from you, we love chit chatting with you in the comments, so make sure you uh share your thoughts with us and uh, we always look forward to spending our time with you. Guys. And uh, clay, as usual, go ahead and send them off.

Speaker 2: 58:22

Hey folks, as always for me, and it's going to become more and more of a relevant topic, but uh, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 3: 58:30

Yes, indeed, all right, guys, take care, we'll see you next week.