Honoring Fallen Heroes, Navigating Political Tensions, and Celebrity Influence: A Complex Look at Today's Turbulent Affairs

Dealing with tragedy and the political ramifications that follow is a journey we often wish we never had to take. Yet, here we are, addressing the gut-wrenching loss of three American service members, fallen in the line of duty from a drone strike near the Syrian border. We pay tribute to the lives of Sgt. William Jerome Rivers, Specialist Kennedy Laiden Sanders, and Specialist Brianna Alexandria Moffitt, delving into the nuanced response from President Biden that steers clear of directly naming the Iran-backed militants involved. Our discussion also navigates the choppy waters of military and political responses that could unfold from such an incident, dissecting the complex considerations our leaders face in these heartrending scenarios.

The episode further transitions to the controversial stance of Texas Governor Abbott, who's taken a bold step in directing his National Guard in ways that push the envelope on states' rights and federal oversight. We ponder the lasting effects of this battle over jurisdiction, considering the historical perspective and current events that suggest a potential escalation in the tension between state and federal powers. On a different front, we dissect the ongoing litigations surrounding former President Trump, including the significant jury award in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, and contemplate how these legal woes weave into the broader tapestry of Trump's contentious relationship with the judiciary.

Finally, we shift gears with a dose of irony and satire as we touch on the unexpected backlash against Taylor Swift's influence on both football and the political arena—a lighter topic that somehow still speaks volumes about celebrity and culture in today's society. We round out the discussion by inviting you, our audience, to be a part of the conversation. Engage with us, challenge us, and let us know the issues that move you. Together, we'll keep seeking truth and clarity in a world that's anything but simple.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Well, hello, my friends. It's good to be here tonight. We've got a lot of stories to talk about and they're all good ones, and and we are saving the best one for last, the most important one and I hope you all catch the sarcasm in my voice, but it's going to be a fun one. Clay, you want to say hi before we go to our little theme song?

Speaker 2: 0:19

Hey everybody, I've you know another another week back, lots going on in the world and love being here to talk about it with Elsa and all of you. So let's, let's roll.

Speaker 1: 0:45

Oh boy. So we're going to. We're going to start right in on the heavy stuff, we're going to hit you over the head with it and and then then we'll ease our way into some lighter stuff. But we would be very remiss to not talk about this. Three American service members were killed in an attack on the Jordan Syria border clay. You're going to do most of the bullet points on this one, but I do have like some some questions, some some I don't know some framework here, and then you can kind of fill in all the blanks if you're cool with that. So it was. They were killed in a drone attack on on base in Jordan, and so here's one of the things I want to talk about that I just read Biden blamed radical Iran backed militant groups operating in Syria and Iraq. I did notice and I want you to see if I'm just picking, nitpicking here I did notice he did not call out any specific group and and I'm curious why he didn't pinpoint exactly who. Any thoughts on that? We can kind of go down. I haven't.

Speaker 2: 1:50

I haven't seen a specific group claim responsibility, which maybe why he didn't name anybody, but they are with based on the technology, and I'm sure there's, there's some intelligence gathering going on out there and somebody's probably got some some intel from this that says it's an Iranian backed group, specifically IRGC, which we talked about last week. You know we talked about all the Hamas, houthis, hezbollah, you know that, the terrorist groups that are all being backed by Iran within the region. This is more of the same. So it's probably there's, probably I know that that nobody's claimed it, so nobody said that was us, which again is probably why the president didn't put a name on it, or anybody else for that matter. But I'm sure they know, based on the technology, specifically because it is a drone attack, they probably have linked it somehow to Iran. That's my guess. Okay.

Speaker 1: 2:43

Okay, yeah, I just I was just curious if that was cowardice on his part or just simply not knowing. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. The next thing I want to do is I want to make sure we we give them some proper acknowledgement here. The three service members were Sergeant William Jerome Rivers. Specialist Kennedy laid in and apologize if I spell, if I pronounced that wrong. Sanders and a specialist Brianna Alexandria Moffitt, and our condolences to their families and their everyone just related to them and involved with them, because that is just a devastating loss and it's awful every single time.

Speaker 2: 3:26

Yes, so these were three Georgia National Guard members from a construction engineer company. So, like you said, I think this base is called Tower 22. It is on the border Jordanian side of the Syria border and, being a members of a construction battalion, you know they were there for any number of reasons, probably for construction purposes. They were probably there to increase or maintain the infrastructure on that base, probably to support Americans. There's a drone attack. Now I haven't heard specifically what the technique for the drone was. I don't know if it was a munition launched off of the drone or if the drone itself was, you know, a munition, in other words, a kamikaze style attack. Not positive on that, but it was three killed, unfortunately, the three that you showed, those members, those guard members killed in action, and then another, I think 34 was the last number that I saw 34, I think somewhere between 12 and 25 were actually evacuated to a higher level care facility to be evaluated and then I think almost all of those have already returned to duty. They were almost all evaluated for TBI, traumatic brain injury, type type injury.

Speaker 2: 4:51

So concussion, you know syndrome, concussion protocols, is essentially what, what's being, you know being abided to, which is great because for years and years and years, we would have totally ignored that. As somebody who sustained a number of concussions both in and out of the army Most, actually almost every one of them, ignored completely or just kind of by me, I mean, you know, it was much culture, as it was my stupidity. But now we do better, thankfully. We do better as an army, as an organization, to take care of our folks and to talk about those things and get them looked at, treated and then taken care of as as needed. So I didn't hear of any other critical injuries.

Speaker 2: 5:29

But you know, reports are a little bit sketchy, but that is. You know, that was just this week and of course you've got all of the responses right. Right, you know the war hawks are out and it's everybody from. You know, it's all the normal players, it's, you know, dan Crenshaw and it's all. It's all of the folks of that ilk. Some have really more Lindsay Graham's, another one, you know that.

Speaker 2: 5:57

Some have, I think, a little bit better position to speak and some, I think, are just in the. You know we've got to respond to tight mentality, but they're out there and they're talking about escalation and they're talking about all kinds of things. So I mean, it's the expect, it's the expectation from that crowd that we're always going to get. It's always escalated, it's always return fire, it's always, you know, hit them hard. And I think there's a danger in that we talked about it last week that this, this can spin out of control very, very quickly. And I'm not saying there shouldn't be any retribution, I said that last week. But this is not a a a. In my opinion. This is not a, a fly into Iran or invade Iran type of type of scenario. It is the deadliest day since the evacuation of Kabul, since since the gate. This is the most lost, you know, in the last, you know two years since that happened. So right.

Speaker 1: 6:54

And now, because this was an attack on on American soldiers it had, you know. It goes probably without saying that they knew exactly who they were attacking, right? Is that a safe? So that to me sounds like a, you know, a very deliberate, antagonistic move to get, which I think is insanely bold of them I mean, I guess they're at their level of confidence is pretty high to to do such a bold attack is. Is that, you think, because of this administration? Because the weakness or at will, I'll even be generous and say perceived weakness of this administration, and I guess what I'm getting at is do you think that kind of attack would have happened under Trump or a different administration?

Speaker 2: 7:39

So I'll put a little bit different spin on it. That is the 159th attack on us troops since October 7. Wow Right, just since Hamas and Israel kicked off.

Speaker 2: 7:53

Say that again 159, 159 attacks on us troops in the region just since October 7. So, while this attack has been, on their terms, the most successful, three killed, 34 or so wounded. This is far from the first time that anybody's attempted this. This has been going on for months and in high numbers. I mean, you can do the math. It's been, you know, 120 days. You're over an attack a day. Right, I mean, that's kind of where it was sitting. So you know this one, they, they got lucky, you know they. They did hit, you know, tower 22, the base, and unfortunately, three, three killed in action and 34 wounded. So successful from, you know, the Iranian back terrorist side, but not the first attempt.

Speaker 2: 8:44

So, okay, you know that puts a different spin on this, in the sense that this has this is not new news. This has been going on Because of this administration for the last 120 days, minimum. Right, it's been going on since before that, just in that, in that window, 159 times. So, no, there is no fear and and every time there is one of these, it Doesn't bold in them. Every time there's an attack of some sort, it doesn't bold in them and it gives them more courage and it says you know well, they're not gonna do anything to us, so keep going. So yeah, 159 times, and for once they they got lucky from their perspective, or finally hit a target. Sure, they're gonna keep going and it is because the response has not been significant enough. And I know there's a balance there. Again, I'm not a Warhawk, I'm far from it. I live that life and I don't wish that on anybody. But you know, in this case there's got to be a little bit more retribution than there has been. We just have to find out what level that's at.

Speaker 1: 9:45

But to answer yeah, that was gonna be my question to you really like, at this point, you know now the escalation and now I'm hearing from, I'm sure, other people Already know this I'm not one of those people 159 attacks since October, that you know. It is getting bolder and bolder and it's hard not to imagine that Logic would be that there needs to be a swift and violent Retaliation response. I mean, I don't, I don't know how there's any way around that at this point. I mean, do you see another way around it? I know, like you said, you're, you know, not a big fan of that, for very logical reasons, understandable reasons. Is there a way to resolve this or stop this? You're not gonna resolve it, but stop these attacks without going to that degree.

Speaker 2: 10:35

So I think what this is gonna end up, the response to this, is gonna be a precision strike of some sort.

Speaker 2: 10:42

It's a tomahawk cruise missile, or if it's something off of a drone, or even something off of a you know, we used to refer to it as an air-breathing platform, something with a pilot.

Speaker 2: 10:52

I think what you're gonna see is a precision strike on a very important target. It's not gonna be widespread, it's not gonna be spread all over Iran or all over the region, but we will find a very specific, high value target and there will be a precision strike made. Whether it's a person, whether it's an installation, a facility, a capability, there will be something of high value that will get, will get struck within the next probably 72 hours or as soon as something of that level value presents itself, we we will respond. And it's not just gonna be an underground munition storage facility for the Houthis, or it's not gonna be, you know, a missile battery emplacement or something like that. It's gonna be more significant. It may be a person, it may be a high-level leader, or it may be a high-level Facility that we decide to strike. That that's my guess. This isn't gonna be a run-of-the-mill response kind of thing. This is gonna be a little bit more than that.

Speaker 1: 11:47

Yeah, he's backed into a corner. Now, right, I mean, this is extremely high profile. They've even had to address it. Although I will say at the time of our conversation right now, I am of the understanding which I find horrendous that the Biden well, biden specifically has not reached out to the families of these three Americans, and if that is a fact or an I'm not saying that is a hundred percent true at this moment it was true up until a couple few hours ago that he has not reached out personally to these families, I think is absolutely Disgusting and and I I hope to be wrong on that, but I don't, I don't know if I am to have you heard anything to the contrary.

Speaker 2: 12:32

I have not. But just as an example of that Exact trend is that I think it was Sunday morning, the White House spokesperson St Pierre Was. She went on I think it was MSNBC their Sunday morning show. She was standing outside the White House. Now she had to know, in the wake of that attack, that A question would be asked of her. Right, what's the president's response? What's the US gonna do? How is the president? Something along those lines you knew it was gonna come up and if you've seen the clip, if you haven't seen it, find it Everybody. But if you haven't, if you haven't seen it. She was 100% ill-prepared, right, it didn't care to know, couldn't speak clear worse than normal, right? I mean, yeah, he's not a Malawood salad, she's got her own version of that. But, right, you know, referred to them as folks. These folks that got killed Couldn't name. You know who they were, what they did, where they were from, anything.

Speaker 1: 13:31

It was terrible even just her, her tone, her actual literal tone of voice, sounded almost bored, like she was stifling a yawn, like you know. Well, oh well, this is very tragic, of course, and sad, and you know it was like wow. You know the level of disrespect and disregard is is absolutely obscene and yeah, I did catch that it was, it was bad.

Speaker 2: 13:56

Yeah, and and the one, the big faux pas in there, which I don't, I don't even think was a Freudian slip. I think it was just an honest mistake. But it looks really bad what she said that they were, you know, protecting this administration those soldiers were doing when they were killed. They were protecting this administration or this nation. She corrected herself, or I something to that effect, but said that they were protecting the administration. And again, I think it was an accident. But it sounds even worse because again, it's more evidence she was unprepared. There was no prepared statement, no rehearsal, no nothing. Just didn't care enough to even worry about it.

Speaker 1: 14:32

Very, very sad, yeah that she's hung on this long is is Absolutely stunning to me and I I feel like she's like shackled to that podium, like they won't let her leave, like I just Imagine these behind the scenes and she's begging now. I just want to. I just want to go home. I don't want to do this anymore. I'm tired. I've had enough, I can't do it. And they're like no, now you're staying, you got to do it.

Speaker 2: 14:55

I don't know else to take the job.

Speaker 1: 14:57

I can't imagine Right who would do it. Who?

Speaker 2: 15:00

would do it?

Speaker 1: 15:01

who would step up to that plate and take those hits? I can't even imagine it. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's a relationship of no other choices really right now between either one of them, I guess, because, well, I don't know, if the left is crazy, they'll take her, she'll get her own talk show or a slot on. You know one of their, one of their.

Speaker 1: 15:22

Saki got it. She did, she did and she was pretty awful too. You know she was bad, she was really bad. I actually miss her because she was. She was pretty easy for me to make fun of and and mimic and Doers. I don't really do. I don't think I've done any careens in my impersonations. I don't think I've. I even think I've attempted. I would just. I would just have to sit there and stammer and say I'm not gonna answer that that's all done.

Speaker 2: 15:51

Not answer it or circle back. Those are the things that's our go-to.

Speaker 1: 15:55

That's it.

Speaker 2: 15:55

That's it, yeah, oh Gosh shifting gears, shifting gears from international to domestic.

Speaker 1: 16:01

Yes, yes indeed, we're talking about. We're talking about Texas. God bless Texas, I love me some Texas. So, yeah, this is wild stuff. I mean this is you know, I Don't mean to joke around about it, it's, it's a big deal, it's pretty crazy. What's going on there. I'm sure you all know at this point, unless you've spared yourself from all distressing News and and goings on in the world. You know that there is a pretty big battle between the state of Texas, governor Abbott, and the federal government and Supreme Court weighed in and we have a lot of people that are very disappointed and upset and a little bit stunned by their ruling. And this is really, really wild stuff. And and Abbott has doubled down. And what do we have? 26 states, I think, have expressed their support and allegiance really with Texas, with governor Abbott, and offering aid and support. And right now the the conversation is about and Check me on this please Federalizing the National Guard. That that's what the Biden administration is looking at doing right now, correct?

Speaker 2: 17:16

Correct. So we I talked about this a couple of weeks ago and the big thing is, you know, the National Guard belongs to the governor, right, that is the. The Nash Texas National Guard belongs to governor Abbott until or unless they are federalized by the president. Now, when that happens, what they have to do is put them on active duty and then they have to pay them. Okay, oh, the federal government has to fund everything that they do. Right, so right, they federalize and I'd have to look at the numbers, but Texas has got a pretty big National Guard. So if they federalize the entire Texas National Guard, they have to pay them active duty wages Until they take them off a federal status. So they would have to activate them all and then pay for them all. Oh, by the way, just like everything else, they're not paying for it. You and I are paying for it, right, right, tax dollars at work. Now, yeah, what you also have is the other 26 states, like you mentioned, which is the number that I have, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 18:14

They have offered their own National Guard to assist Texas in many, many cases. So, okay, what's the president gonna do? Is he got federalized Everybody's National Guard? Can they afford to do that? No, they can't. No way, no way right. So you know they can. Governors can do what they want with their National Guard, largely so. If you know Chris Christie, know him. God lover Said she would load barbed wire in the back of her pickup truck herself and drive it down to Texas.

Speaker 1: 18:44

Yeah, she's so she's. I already liked her, but she grows on me more and more every day. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:49

So say, say you know, from South Dakota, they they activate. She activates the National Guard from South Dakota and says go down to Texas and Then puts them under command of the state of Texas. Now think, in terms of natural disasters, this has happened a million times before, right, national Guard. So there's a hurricane that rolls through Louisiana, most of Louisiana National Guard is trying to save their own house, right? So you get National Guard from other places surrounding states Mississippi, oklahoma, arkansas, that kind of stuff. They get activated and they go help in Louisiana and they're put under command of whatever you know authority the state has established, if it's not already federal.

Speaker 2: 19:32

So she can and any other governor can, activate their National Guard and give them to Texas. They can do it anytime they want. Now they have to pay for it. The state pays for it until the federal eyes. But you know, in a lot of cases there's some you know agreements made between the states that hey, we'll pay for half or we'll pay for whatever you know kind of thing, we'll put them up, we'll be causing in full freedom while they're down here, and that kind of deal. So the president can't withstand this. If that's what happens, he can't do it.

Speaker 1: 20:04

He's got to be so furious right now, oh yeah, oh yeah, so furious because he's, he's once again backed into a corner. I mean, what are you really? What are you really going to do? And you know, unless you want a civil war here. I mean, you're talking we just said 26 states, we are close to being split in half there and everyone has pretty much said who's, you know who's going to step up and say where they stand on this matter. And I think they've all been pretty clear about the lengths, like you said, kristi Noem, the lengths that they will go to to show that support. So you want to be that president, you want that in your I mean, I don't know how much he actually cares he's going to be, you know, gone before you know it. Sorry, that's probably a terrible thing to say, but you know, let's be realistic. But I mean, is this the legacy that you want to have? That you were the catalyst for a civil war? So it's, it's pretty wild.

Speaker 2: 21:03

Governor Abbott has actually used word succession, secession in public and and you know Texas, if you've ever spent any time in Texas, you know Texas does still consider itself its own country for the most part, but he has used that word secession, seceding from the union in public at least once in the last week and a half.

Speaker 2: 21:25

So, yeah, there's a lot going on there. There's also it's almost like a counter to the migrant formations moving into Texas from Mexico. There are hundreds of volunteers coming to Texas from other states, people volunteering to work for the state of Texas to help secure the border. There's open opportunities. I think they're even offering to pay people's per diem, put them up, feed them $55 a day, something like that I've seen to go down there and help secure the border, and they're really looking for former law enforcement, former military, anybody who's willing to help out. So you've got these caravans that are moving to Texas from the north, as opposed to the ones coming up from Mexico, full of migrants. So it's very interesting. It's going to come to a head and it's going to come quickly.

Speaker 1: 22:15

Yeah, and you're talking about, or we're talking about really, in this very specific moment and space where this is happening. It's a relatively small area, of course, the entire border, this is a whole issue but the area is Eagle Pass, I believe, where they're all kind of converging and I think it was a population of like 30,000 or something like that, and which you know. It's a good size, certainly, but they are, you know, all of their hotels, everything is booked up. Right now there is no space. They have tent cities for, you know, I think maybe Coast Guard and or maybe that might have been, the federal agents that are setting up in the tent cities. So I mean, this whole area is where this is all converging on and happening in, and it's pretty wild to see.

Speaker 2: 23:09

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this continues to grow and shift and change in the next few weeks. I can tell you, governor Abbott doesn't care, right, he's not going to back down. He basically said you know, he didn't say I don't care what the Supreme Court says, but he also said you know, essentially they can cut all the wire they want, we're just going to put more up, right, right and it's. He is very much on the side of his constituency and what he believes to be right on behalf of the Union, on behalf of the Republic, not just the state of Texas. So, yeah, this, the growth and change in this in the next coming weeks, is going to be very interesting to watch.

Speaker 1: 23:53

Yeah absolutely and to his credit. You know I mean he's not some. You know rogue. You know what do they call that 10 gallon hat wearing no Pistols. You know he's an extremely smart man. He knows the Constitution, he knows that, the rules, he knows what he can and cannot do and you know he's playing by the rules. He really is so and I'm sure that's arguable for some people who disagree with what he's doing. But yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be pretty wild, More wildness. We can move on to our next one, because this one is going to be an ongoing, so we'll be talking about that one plenty more times.

Speaker 1: 24:25

I think Next up, let's talk about Trump. We have to talk about Trump because he's always in the news and this is for all his lawsuits, and the latest, of course, is with E Jean Carroll, and this is kind of like a repeat, essentially this one, just a different, different set of circumstances, basically. So she sued him. Now the latest one is for defamation and something else. I think there's something else that she sued him from, but defamation. This whole thing is so wild and so insane.

Speaker 1: 24:59

Now, as we know Donald Trump and I don't know if people really really know the scope of this and I looked into it. He has been so. He's technically been going through three decades of litigation. He's been sued for, you know thousands of times over three decades, which is insane in itself. The latest goings on, of course, he was indicted four times one for mishandling classified documents, one for illegally trying to overthrow or overturn I'm sorry, overturn the 2020 election, falsifying business records and hush money for the porn star and the Playboy lady person. So those are like the have been four of the top things that he has been in constant litigation for, and he's got numerous trials coming up. He's got one coming up. Let's see no September. I have September 23rd, but that's not right. He's got a couple in March, he's got one in May and, of course, the one that just completed with an $83 million win for Eugene Carroll, and I want to share this and then we can discuss.

Speaker 3: 26:18

Hang on. You've talked about using some of Trump's money that you're about to get to help shore up women's rights. Do you know what that might be? What that might look?

Speaker 2: 26:27

like yes, Rachel, yes.

Speaker 3: 26:29

I had such great ideas for all the good I'm going to do with this money. First thing, rachel, you and I are going to go shopping. We're going to get completely new wardrobes, new shoes, motorcycle for Crowley, new fishing rod for Robbie. Rachel, what do you want, penthouse? No, it's yours, rachel. Penthouse and France. You want France. You want to go fishing in France? No, all right, that's a joke, although if me fishing in France could do something for women's rights, I would take the hand. Obviously, take one for the team.

Speaker 1: 27:09

First of all, how disgusting really you know. As a woman now, I'm so grateful that I have never had to experience sexual assault or anything along those lines, so I am tremendously grateful. I know women who have. We all know somebody who has been affected by sexual assault and I don't know a single one who has ever found such amusement and lightheartedness in something so traumatizing. So that this woman and these women are sitting there cackling and laughing and talking and joking about what they're going to do with Trump's money, I think is such an obscene slap in the face to every woman, every person who has been affected by sexual assault. So that alone I find them absolutely disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. And I think it's a great example of what a joke and what a scam that entire trial was and what a witch hunt yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:13

So that was part two. So she got a $5 million settlement earlier in 2023. And then now another $83 million, bringing her up to a total of $88. Now this, the interesting thing about the ruling on this case, or the settlement on this case, is the jury awarded much, much more than what was asked for. I want to say it was another $30 plus million more than what was asked for, and this goes along the lines of it ruined her reputation. You know pain and suffering. You know kind of settlement.

Speaker 2: 28:51

Keep in mind and again, I am in no way defending what President Trump was accused of doing. I'm not saying that that is okay. I'm not saying that it's right. I'm not saying any of that. What I am saying is that he is not. This is not a criminal case. He has not been indicted, he has not been convicted of any kind of sexual assault, sexual battery of any kind. These are civil settlements based on accusations, right, that that it's important to note that and again, I'm not defending what he did, if he did in fact do it. The reality is is we don't know what he did in fact do because he's never been tried for the act itself, right, never, um. So that's one, the jury, going above and beyond in this Manhattan I think it was Manhattan courthouse. Yes, above and beyond in the settlement is very indicative of the way New York city feels about presidential. Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. Oh, absolutely yeah, had this been tried in? You know, pick your blue, your red state, you know if this had been tried in South Dakota right.

Speaker 2: 30:03

Yeah, probably one, probably not settling in her favor, but even if it did, certainly not tacking on 30 million plus above the requested amount.

Speaker 1: 30:12

Right, yeah, it was like three times the amount the legal team asked for in eight times her initial request. Yeah, insanity.

Speaker 2: 30:25

So it is, you know, just sticking it to the president. You know, president Trump, which is nuts Now you were talking about all the all the court cases that are pending. So there is one that we're waiting a decision on and that was the civil fraud case in New York. So that one's actually that trials over with. That was the one where he you know president Trump jumped up and said something closing arguments, and then he stormed out there's been no decision made yet on that case, but the case itself is done, being tried, so they're waiting decision on that.

Speaker 2: 30:57

There are two you said two in March, that's what I'm tracking. That's a federal election tampering case and the Manhattan hush money case. Those are both supposed to start in in March. Then in May is the classified documents trial, and then in August is the Georgia trial for the Georgia election results. You know thing. So that's five more that are pending, and and we'll all come before November, of course. So you know, we've said this all along how many of these is he going to get convicted of or is he going to lose? Listen, even this one. E Jean Carroll, both of them, both of her settlements of five and $83 million, are in appeals.

Speaker 1: 31:47

Right.

Speaker 2: 31:47

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:48

I mean she's, she's never going to see it. She's never going to see it, it's never going to happen.

Speaker 2: 31:51

It's set aside $5 million for the first settlement. That's already been put aside, made public record of it, but the but it's still under appeal and this one is obviously going to be under appeal. $83 million, yeah, and, and every one of these, truthfully, will go under appeal and continue under appeal well beyond the election.

Speaker 1: 32:10

Absolutely so. Yeah, there's no question about it. No question about it. It's just, you know, it's just wild.

Speaker 1: 32:17

And his, his attorney, that Alina Habba, she, you know, she's very, very vocal, very outspoken. She spoke after, after the judgment and made some, you know, some, heavy accusations. There's actually accusations now of a conflict of interest between E Jean Carroll's attorney and the judge, and so we're going to be hearing a lot about that, I think. And heard that, yeah, I just heard it today, I just saw it today actually, and you know so, and there's many of those types of accusations going on. Leticia James, of course, there's a lot of questions there, you know, I mean it's on her to come up with proof, you know, concrete proof, to show that that's the case.

Speaker 1: 33:04

And and you know, but the sad thing is based on what we've seen and you know the absolute hatred for Trump that extends to the point where they don't care about the law, they don't care what's right and what's morally good and right and ethical. They don't care about those things, they just care about sticking it to him. So who is going to hear this? Like, who is going to hear this for them and and rule in their favor? I mean, I just feel like it just seems like the. The odds are just so stacked against him because the, the judicial system, is so heavily filled with left leaning judges and it's a. I don't Well, I definitely don't envy him any of this, and his, his attorney's got his her job, her job, ahead of her. I don't know what's going to happen with it.

Speaker 2: 33:50

Well, and I think it because of who he is. I think it is impossible to get an impartial jury for any of these court cases that require a jury. You know, this one, this last one, the Eugene Carroll, the eighty three million dollars that was. That was a jury that decided that we're in the world One way or the other, red or blue, pro or con, you know. Unless you go through and say you know, are you a Republican, are you a Democrat? And you put six and six on the jury, you know there's no way and nowhere that he can get an unbiased trial. It's almost. I know people swear, you know they're going to take the evidence and they're going to, you know, make an unbiased decision, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's. You don't say that. And then tack on thirty million dollars on top as an unbiased jury. Ok, so there's a. He can't get an unbiased trial. I refuse to believe it. One direction or the other, pro or con or against, impossible for him to do that. Which rex the principle of our judicial system.

Speaker 1: 34:57

Yeah, absolutely, it sure does. And you know, and I think the you know, the question begs to be asked for for every American, for everyone watching this, that if they can do something like this to one of the wealthiest men in America, in the country, what can they do to you, with nothing, you know, in comparison, it just it's a little scary to see the type of power that's being wielded here, you know, one against a former president and a presidential candidate right now. I mean, this is, you know, this is a. These are political tactics. There is no question about the fact that this administration, the entire left, the Democrat party is will do anything to eliminate him from becoming, you know, the president again, and this is being proved that there is no length that they won't go to. So you know, does it's, it's, it says a lot of things and none of them are good, I think, for this country.

Speaker 2: 35:57

And at the same time, you know he's got two election interference trials, the one in Georgia and then the federal one. Is anybody being tried for the Russian dossier and that level of election tampering? Because that's what that was.

Speaker 2: 36:11

And we all know that was that that the FBI with the Hunter Biden laptop, right, affecting the election. Nobody, nobody. Hunters under scrutiny, right, hunter is right, but the FBI and the people involved with the hiding of that laptop and the you know, oh, that's just Russian disinformation and blah, blah, blah, everything that goes along with that. Nobody is being tried for either of those two things, right? The Hunter laptop or the Russian dossier. Nobody. So it is corrupt, it is leaning one direction and it is leaning the direction of the party that's in power. And this is the weaponization of the Department of Justice that I talked about a year and a half, two years ago, when they raided Mar-a-Lago, looking for classified documents, red lights and kicking doors in and all that other stupid stuff.

Speaker 1: 36:59

Yes, Meanwhile Biden's got classified documents in the back of his Corvette in his garage. But never mind that Never mind that.

Speaker 3: 37:07

Don't look at that. Who cares?

Speaker 1: 37:09

That's different. That's different. Yeah, the double standard, the you know, the blatant corruption and it's, it's so stunning and honestly, clay, I just feel so overwhelmed by it and I feel that that is the general consensus for any spectator of all of this, like, how, how do you do anything about this? Like we're, our hands are tied, we can't do anything. Certainly, you know, we're just, we're spectators, we're watching this happen in real time and the implications down the road are just, are huge, huge, huge, huge. I mean, there already is so much distrust in all of our government systems right now. I don't really know how we can ever get back to a good place from this. I really don't yeah.

Speaker 2: 37:59

I. It has to be. No matter who wins this election, no matter the out. Let's not even say who wins. Where the outcome of this election is, it is any kind of reconciliation is at least four years after that.

Speaker 1: 38:14

Right.

Speaker 2: 38:15

At least, and and you are, it's entirely possible that you are right, which is we may never come back. We are, we may be too far down that road, which is sad, shameful, you know, turns my gut for the amount of years that I serve this nation, that it that it has come to this, but we, this may be unrecoverable, yeah, okay, way for me to remember the outlook.

Speaker 1: 38:33

I spent up around deícios to draw these.

Speaker 1: 38:35

Yeah, I mean, you know I don't know if we're looking at the following. You know sorry to be so dramatically doom and gloom, but you know I can't help but wonder if we are really looking at the fall of our nation. You know, as we know it, as we know it, and I think the answer is pretty clear when we look around that yes, that is, at the very least, the track that we're going down. I mean, that is definitely the path that we're on. I think it is very safe to say that.

Speaker 1: 39:00

You know, right now we are the divided states of America and it is. You know, it's heartbreaking and a little frightening, maybe even a lot frightening to watch and for all the reasons you just said, you know all the, all the men and women who have fought so hard for this country and for all the freedoms that we have and just everything that we have to see it kind of disintegrating or imploding in front of our eyes. Is it's, it's it's shocking, is what it is. I certainly wouldn't have ever thought I'd be seeing this in my lifetime, or even certainly not talking about it.

Speaker 2: 39:33

Yeah, and you know we'll transition to our last topic and it is a little bit lighter topic, but it is indicative of what we've been talking about. And our last topic for the night again a little bit lighter is Taylor and Travis Right. Taylor Swift, travis Kelsey and they are the lovebirds.

Speaker 2: 40:01

Right there they are, and and listen, I'm not, and I know you're not I'm not going to bash on the two of them. I am so far away from that, it's not even funny. Listen, they're young, young, young compared to me and you. They're young, they're young couple and good for them for finding each other right. I'm sure it's not easy for famous people, especially potentially the most famous person in the world, or pretty close you know, for her, to find anybody that can live in that sphere that she lives in, and I think you know they seem honestly, genuinely happy.

Speaker 1: 40:38

So this is horrible together.

Speaker 2: 40:40

Yeah, and this is not. This is for everybody out there. This is not at all. You know, Elsa and I are on their side, right where we are not passing Travis and Taylor.

Speaker 1: 40:52

No, we got to be careful, clay, because those Swifties I have found out very recently, they will come for you, man. They will come for you with their little kitty cat claws out, and yeah, I will explain that shortly, but let's, let's keep talking about this for a minute, because we do have a good reason for why we're even talking about them.

Speaker 2: 41:10

So two things, one, you know. The biggest one for me is is there's a lot of you know men out there primarily men, I'm sure there's some women to that say you know, taylor Swift is ruining football. First things first, get a grip on yourself. Okay, that's football. The NFL started going downhill a long time ago when they stopped actually hitting people, you know, when they stopped hitting quarterbacks and wide receivers. And it's not the same NFL. Okay, fine, she's on TV for max 120 seconds out of a three hour game. She's not ruining football, she's not.

Speaker 2: 41:42

Okay, your excuse of hating the chiefs or whoever it is, and Taylor Swift ruining football is ridiculous in its juvenile. And oh, by the way, your daughters are listening. So, as you're bashing their idol, okay, and you're talking about her, they are listening to you and what they're hearing you say is she's supporting her boyfriend and she's out there, and she's out there doing it publicly and she's doing it without shame and she's loving with her whole heart, but she needs to do less of it because it's bothering my football game. That's what your daughters are hearing. Right, grow up Right. Be a better example for your kids, for your daughter, stop being a juvenile, because Taylor Swift is not ruining football. Now talk about your Swifties.

Speaker 1: 42:27

My Swifties. Oh, my goodness. So you know so first night. So let me, let me show you this, everybody, if you haven't seen this already. This is wild. Okay, now this is. This has been talked about for the past couple of few days here Taylor Swift could sway the 2024 election outcome and new, new poll finds, with a fifth of voters likely to back the candidate endorsed by the singer. Now, that's pretty wild. That's, that's a big influence and and I am going to restate because they're going to come from me, no matter what they're already coming from me I will restate what Clay said. I have no problem with Taylor Swift. Swift, I think she's crazy talented. She is a tremendously gifted songwriter, singer, entertainer, all of those things. She's not my cup of tea. I do like some of her songs. I would not go to one of her concerts, one. I'm like 52 guys. I mean, what do we know?

Speaker 2: 43:20

Come on and you can't afford it.

Speaker 1: 43:22

I can't, even, can't, even not on my best day, oh, my goodness, yeah. So, all of that being said, now, with the graphic I just showed you, there's been some funny things going around. It's been said many times. All I did was echo it. It's not my own words that it. Well, I'll just show it to you. Hang on, here we go. Are you ready for it? If you're one of them, it might serve you well to remember that most of Taylor Swift songs are about choosing the wrong guy. Listen, it's funny. They got really mad that I did that. Now I put that up. I put that up today, a few hours ago, a handful hours ago, and the last count, there was like 16,000 views on it, and probably more at this point. And the comment section is, you know, is a little fiery, a little bit mean, a little bit of tacky, and, and I'm okay with that, I'm fine with that. And I just have to say again Swifties, I'm so sorry. So the reason I just what are you doing in here?

Speaker 2: 44:26

You're going to read this right now.

Speaker 1: 44:29

You want me to read this? That's right. Is this written in cram? Read it right now. How did we even get in here? I have my brains All right, calm down. I'll read it Seriously. I would like to apologize you spelled it wrong For the recent statements I made about Taylor Swift. If you're one of them, it makes sure you all remember that most of Taylor Swift songs are about choosing the wrong guy. I was a stupid old I am?

Speaker 1: 45:00

I am a stupid old woman who doesn't know anything about Taylor Swift, and I should just keep her name out of my dumb old lady mouth.

Speaker 3: 45:12

Yeah, that's right, you should keep going.

Speaker 1: 45:15

This part too. Everyone should listen to what Taylor Swift says and vote for whoever she says to vote for. Yeah, are you even old enough to vote Like whatever? Who cares? Are we done? Read the last part Sincerely. Spelled that wrong too Sincerely. Elsa Ha Swifties for life. Can you go now?

Speaker 3: 45:42

Oh, yeah, sure, oh, my mom's waiting in the car. Swifties, swifties.

Speaker 2: 45:49

Swifties.

Speaker 3: 45:51

Oh, my mom wants to know if you validate parking.

Speaker 1: 45:53

No, I made you so angry. I have no problem with Taylor Swift. I have a problem that people are choosing their future president based on who a pop singer likes or sides with. And let's face it, we've all been joking for several years now about how her songs are, about her bad choices in men, her bad relationships. So it's just kind of it was just funny, people calm down.

Speaker 2: 46:24

So you know there is that graphic, the one fifth, I think. It's somewhere in and around 18 and a half percent, I think is that the number I saw. So you have to assume that many of those are already Joe Biden voters. But we know that this is going to be a tight election, right, we know it is, or at least we have to anticipate that it will be. If she pays 3% of the undecided, that's massive. I mean, that's huge numbers.

Speaker 2: 46:53

Yes, and she did endorse President Biden in 2020. Historic picture of her with a, I think, a big cookie, cookies or something. Yes, muffins or something Say Biden 2020 on him. She supported him and listen, maybe a little bit conspiracy theory, but you know she is on TV a lot. She's on the football games. You know the 120 seconds. It's enough. People are complaining. It's certainly enough that people are noticing Okay, yes, we all know that the bias that the mainstream media shows towards the current administration and specifically the president. Do the math, people. Right, she's got 18.5% or almost 20% swing. It's going to be a tight race. He's on TV a lot. They're just waiting. They're waiting for an endorsement from her to back the president or whoever truthfully Democratic candidates going to be, whether president or not.

Speaker 2: 47:57

So you know there is a linkage there. I don't think it's an accident. You know they're playing towards the. The Swifties I'm sure they're probably.

Speaker 2: 48:07

Most Swifties are probably not in the normal football audience, or they weren't until about eight weeks ago, and they probably aren't much in the mainstream media news audience, or they probably were about eight weeks ago. I can tell you as a substitute teacher, right, and that's what I do for those that don't know, on the daily, I heard two sixth grade girls just last week Having a conversation oh, don't you think that Travis is gonna be a great dad when him and Taylor have? And I'm like, what in the world are you talking about? But, yeah, girls, right, this is what they're thinking about. So if you think that that the media, social media, mainstream media influence of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey isn't bleeding into the population through every platform and format, you're crazy. Okay, so when the endorsement drops, when she does endorse the president, that is also gonna trickle down, because just because the football season's over with doesn't mean people stop paying attention to her.

Speaker 1: 49:06

No, exactly they're. They'll be in the spotlight even more. They'll be on, you know, whatever their victory tour or their Consolation tour, and it's gonna, you know, it's just gonna be this continuation of this soap opera that they're creating of these, these two people. Now, I guess one saving grace, I guess, could be that, you know, with any luck, the majority of her fan base is actually too young to vote.

Speaker 1: 49:29

Yeah so we can keep our fingers crossed. I I know her fandom actually spreads, you know, across probably several decades. You know there's some irony here too, because in the midst of all of this there is a story out right now that she, her stalker I'm sure she has more than one, but this particular one is in the news quite a bit all of a sudden because he is Repeatedly breaking into her New York home. So I know she's got several homes. This half one happened to be in New York and he has been Breaking in a practically daily, going through her trash, knocking on her door, you know, doing all of the things that a Crazy stalker would do. He has been picked up by the police I believe it's either three or four times now and Each time they bring him in and release him immediately, and each time he goes directly back to her place again and again and with Nothing. He's not being held on bail, nothing is. Hey, they bring him in, they maybe give him a good talking to take the finger at him and say don't do that, and he says okay, I won't do it anymore, and then he be lines right back for her place.

Speaker 1: 50:39

We all know some of these high-profile cases of deranged stalkers actually killing the people that they're stalking. I mean, on Lenin, you know, is there's one right there? I mean there's plenty. There's quite a few horrible stories. This girl is so high-profile and she can't even get real protection from a stalker. And why is that? Because the administration that she loves so much and their governing rules Doesn't lock up these people, they just set them free. So you know, it's a little bit ironic to me that what you're, the very thing that you're supporting, is what you are now becoming a Victim of. And I hope that sinks into her head at some, but it probably won't, because she's so insulated she maybe even hasn't even heard that her stalker's been to her place. You know, but you should know.

Speaker 2: 51:24

I, I, I hope you ever seen Travis Kelsey. That is a big boy, he's a big boy, he's a big sturdy boy. Yeah, if he, if that stalker makes the mistake of Breaking into her residence while they're there, let alone. I mean, I'm sure she's got all kinds of armed security and all that other stuff, but maybe on the street, maybe he steps in the way, maybe does whatever. An old Travis gets his mitts on him. I, I hope that he gets the same treatment as the stalker. I hope you, I hope he pounds that guy into the ground.

Speaker 1: 51:59

Yes.

Speaker 2: 51:59

I really do. I hope you, I hope he, you know, puts a hurting on him and then I hope the police wag their finger at him and they let him go. That would be justice. But the reality is is they won't right. The reality is is that he will get arrested, mm-hmm, get charged and then, unfortunately, that's the level of things that has to happen for people to change their minds. So maybe, if that, if that happens, you know, maybe that's probably, maybe a little bit of a stretch, but if that happens, then maybe that's the point where Taylor Swift and and and those you know Surrounding her maybe change their mind a little bit on things.

Speaker 1: 52:32

But I doubt it right, yeah, I same, same. And and that is the consistent problem with the ivory tower crowd, you know they they like everything to be a certain way that sounds lovely on paper, very utopian like, but when it comes to the reality Of things that happen in the world, they are so sheltered and and protected from it. And until they're not, and then that's when they change. And it's such a shame that it takes a tragedy or something horrific to happen for them to get it through their skulls. And I don't wish it on her by any means, I don't wish on anyone by any means. I would love their utopia. They're, they're pretty little world that they live in. But yeah, so you know, it sounded like it was gonna be a fluff piece, guys didn't. On Taylor and Travis, you thought we were gonna do all hearts and flowers to talk about how cute they are. Nah, bigger implications there.

Speaker 2: 53:23

There always are. It's never the world is. The world is far from simple and it's getting more complicated by the day.

Speaker 1: 53:29

It is and thankfully, thankfully, they have us to talk about it.

Speaker 2: 53:36

As we sit here, deciphering all the, all the goings on on a week to work faces.

Speaker 1: 53:41

Yes, and we will continue to do so. Next week, I'm sure Texas will have more for us to talk about, as will Trump as well. Taylor and Travis, of course. You know I mean I must follow on this saga and make sure that they're okay and that their romance is thriving. This is very important to us. I know clay will keep me filled in.

Speaker 2: 54:03

Listen, I'm gonna stick to the news part. You can figure out the Travis and Taylor part fair enough.

Speaker 1: 54:08

Fair enough, all right, I like it. All right, guys, we will see you next week. We are excited always to hear from you and share your thoughts, share your comments, give us your Ideas, just pour your hearts out to us. We love it. We love it clay. Say goodbye to him.

Speaker 2: 54:24

Listen. If you guys have something you want us to touch on, talk about, discuss, if you have a topic that's just nagging at you and you want to hear our opinions, let us know. You can find both of us on socials we're not hard to find, and with that I'll close it out from me. As always, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 1: 54:40

Take care.